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Spectropop - Digest Number 979



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There are 11 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Session claims
           From: Phil Milstein 
      2. Battle of the Teenage Stars
           From: David Feldman 
      3. Eddie Rambeau/Chuck Barris
           From: Mike Edwards 
      4. Re: Jonna Gault and Her Symphonopop Scene
           From: Martin Roberts 
      5. Re: The Three Degrees
           From: Bob Rashkow 
      6. Re: Groop Scoop
           From: Lindsay Martin 
      7. "Along Comes Mary" acetate on Ebay
           From: Tom Taber 
      8. Re: The Jam "Somethings Gone" 1972
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
      9. Re: Mature teenagers
           From: Artie Wayne 
     10. Re: More on The Jam
           From: Mark Frumento 
     11. Andy Kim's Backup
           From: John Clemente 


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Message: 1
   Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:46:47 -0400
   From: Phil Milstein 
Subject: Re: Session claims

Paul Urbahns wrote:

> This is probably because if you do 3 or 4 three hour sessions a
> day for weeks it all becomes a blur. Some of the songs are hits,
> some are not. Some of the titles are changed from the time they
> are recorded, until they are issued.

I'm always surprised when any session musician or singer DOES 
remember some of the work they did years ago! 

--Phil M.






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Message: 2 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 13:14:02 -0400 From: David Feldman Subject: Battle of the Teenage Stars Susan wrote: > Janis Ian with "Society's Child" and all that came after? I knew someone would bring up Janis Ian! Yes, Janis was younger than Laura Nyro, but I don't think there's any comparison in the quality of the music or the sophistication. But then Laura Nyro is my favorite solo singer-songwriter ever. I can't think of any other teenager in the "rock era" capable of producing masterpieces like "Poverty Train" or "The Confession." If any of you know Laura Nyro only from the hits that were covered by other artists, I urge you to run out and buy a copy of "Eli & the 13th Confession." Along with "Pet Sounds" and "What's Going On?" it's in my album pantheon. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:22:00 -0000 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Eddie Rambeau/Chuck Barris Latest entry in the 'Keepin' the Summer Alive' series is Eddie Rambeau with "Summertime Guy" from 1962; it's now playing in musica. On this one, Ed's "a real cold drizzle in January but he sizzles in the month of July". Perfect! This title is topical also as it was written by Chuck Barris, who was the subject of the recent George Clooney flick, "Confessions Of A Dangerous Mind". Actor Sam Rockwell turns in a deliciously sleazy performance as Chuck Barris. Chuck also wrote "Palisades Park", a #3 hit for Freddy Cannon in the summer of '62. That song is featured twice in the film and actor David Julian Hirsh portrays an appearance by Freddy Cannon on "American Bandstand". "Summertime Guy" is also featured but as the theme for one of Barris' game shows, "The Newly Wed Game". This show ran for about eight years on daytime TV, hosted by Bob Eubanks. It wasn't all good news. "Summertime Guy" was pulled from all radio and TV stations once they learned that Chuck Barris (who was currently an ABC VP) was the writer. It was considered a conflict of interest; "Palisades Park" snuck through, however. Having said this, member Frank Wright produced a regional chart handed out by Norm's TV and Radio in Easthampton, MA, showing "Summertime Guy" at #23 for the week of 08/18/62, so somebody bought it. Enjoy the 45, Mike 'Keepin' the Summer Alive'- the story so far: Chubby Checker Dancin' Party Parkway 1962 Connie Francis We Have Something More (Than A Summer Love) MGM 1964 Chiffons When Summer's Through Laurie 1963 Eddie Rambeau Summertime Guy Swan - 1962 -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 23:39:24 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: Jonna Gault and Her Symphonopop Scene Art wrote: >Anybody on Spectropop ever heard this LP? After her first(?) 45, Jonna Gault: Sincomperneer, from early '66 on Reprise, "From My Window", (arr & cond Ernie Freeman), I must confess to not actively seeking out her later work on Map and RCA, but I may be persuaded of her virtues. Perhaps if someone cares to play a later track to musica? Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 00:29:58 EDT From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: The Three Degrees Great group. Have never heard their Swan efforts from the mid 60s. Rashkovsky, when were you doing sound for them? I have a 45 of "I Do Take You" (Roulette, 1970) which is a beautiful soul ballad that left a brief mark on the charts. Whitburn says they also covered Little Sister's "You're The One" (not as successfully as Sly's sister's group). How do they sound on Swan - my guess would be more in keeping with that time, a la the Shangs, Ikettes, or the Barry-Greenwich contingent? Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 11:51:13 -0000 From: Lindsay Martin Subject: Re: Groop Scoop ...no connection whatsoever with Australian band The Groop that had some local hits in the late 60s: "Woman You're Breaking Me", "Such a Lovely Way". Come to think of it, it's probably an obvious name for a group: no doubt there have been other "Groops" elsewhere on the planet. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 07:26:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Taber Subject: "Along Comes Mary" acetate on Ebay I am in hopes that a Spectropopper was the lucky winner of the "Along Comes Mary" acetate that just sold on Ebay; or somebody knows somebody who can get it to musica. It said "Curt and Tandyn" and "Along Comes Mary" on the taped-on label, and is believed to be the demo given to the group that got them to record the song. A few other acetates from the same source contained alternate early takes of other Association songs. Tom Taber -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 22:48:17 -0000 From: Billy G. Spradlin Subject: Re: The Jam "Somethings Gone" 1972 Michel wrote: > I think that your impression is quite right. In Jerry Osborne's > book "Rockin' Records", he puts Jam's single on Sire in 1968. > When I first saw that you had uploaded some music by Jam from > 1972, I thought this was the same Jam who released "Pigeon" in > 1971. Was "Pigeon" also released on Sire Records? I think we have another confusing instance of 2-3 or more groups with the same name... One thing I found interesting is the number of the the record "Sire 5001". My Mixtures' "Pushbike Song" is SI 350 from 1970-1. It makes me wonder if this was the Seymour Stein-run Sire records or a different company from 1968. Until someone comes up with a copy we will never know. I'd love to find out if there was a stereo mix made, or an LP. >From what I dug up Sire Records was established in 1966 and went through several distributors (Paramount Gulf+Western (I think), Phonogram, ABC and over 2 decades with Warner Brothers before switching to Universal in the 90s) so they could have changed record and matrix numbers many times. Billy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 08:16:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Mature teenagers Dave Feldman: > Has any teenager ever written and performed at the level > of "First Songs" and "Eli & the Thirteenth Confession?" > I can't think of any. Susan: > Janis Ian with "Society's Child" and all that came after? Susan.........How ya' doin'? I'm ashamed of myself, I should have jumped in and answered Dave's question as quickly as you did!! My partner Kelli Ross and I represented Janis Ian's publishing company from her first hit for the next three years. She was only 14 years old at the time, but I never related to her as a kid. She turned me on to music and artists I might not have heard and opened my mind to an emerging generation. Regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 19:51:54 -0000 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Re: More on The Jam Michel Gignac wrote: > I think that your impression is quite right. In Jerry Osborne's > book "Rockin' Records", he puts Jam's single on Sire in 1968. I'm pretty sure the record exists and is from 1972. Note the similarity to "My Girl." Here's the listing from Fuzz Acid and Flowers: The Jam 45: Loving Kind Of Way/Something's Gone (Sire 5001) 1972 This seems to have been a one-off venture produced by Seymour Stein, who later discovered The Ramones. The flip, a fine example of baroque- pop with strong vocals, harmonies and some good upfront Hammond organ, has resurfaced on Pebbles, Vol. 12 (LP). -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 13:03:15 -0400 From: John Clemente Subject: Andy Kim's Backup Hello All, In answer to Laura Pinto's question about Andy Kim's version of "Baby I Love You", singer Jean Thomas said that it was she who backed Andy on that. Regards, John Clemente -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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