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Spectropop - Digest Number 972

               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Jackie vs. Randy
           From: Bill George 
      2. Twinn Connexion; Four Jacks + a Jill
           From: Bob Rashkow 
      3. Stereo Connie/Latin Music in the Brill Building
           From: Stuffed Animal 
      4. Quentin E Klopjaeger & Beards
           From: Mark Frumento 
      5. Re: The Cookies
           From: Jimmy 
      6. Re: please... don't... stop...
           From: Mark Frumento 
      7. Re: Master Jack
           From: Steve Harvey 
      8. Re: Brute Force "Tapeworm Of Love"
           From: Rat Pfink 
      9. Jack Nitzsche Update
           From: Martin Roberts 
     10. Laura Nyro's background singers
           From: Tony  Leong 
     11. Phil Spector article
           From: David Bell 
     12. Connie Francis
           From: Stuffed Animal 
     13. Origins of "High Coin"
           From: Art Longmire 
     14. Chiffons on musica
           From: Mike Edwards 
     15. Lollipop Lips/Jawbreaker
           From: Tom 
     16. Parkway
           From: Simon White 
     17. Righteous Brothers /Johnnie Wimber
           From: Peter Richmond 
     18. Re: Back up vocals on "Lightning Strikes" (Toni Wine chimes in)
           From: Allan Rinde 
     19. Jaedes Album 1969
           From: Frederick Blackmon 
     20. Re: Toni Wine chimes in
           From: Sebastian Fonzeus 
     21. Burt Bacharach
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     22. Re: Righteous Brothers/Johnnie Wimber/Jack Nitzsche
           From: Martin Roberts 
     23. Re: The Cat Came Back
           From: Ian Chapman 
     24. Re: Origins of "High Coin"
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     25. Re: Jaedes Album 1969
           From: Simon White 


Message: 1
   Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:23:47 EDT
   From: Bill George 
Subject: Re: Jackie vs. Randy

> In 1980 I finally got to meet Randy Newman and discuss
> the various early stages of his career: He did admit
> writing several tunes with Jackie DeShannon. Probably
> a connection via his childhood friend, Lenny Waronker.

Jackie and Randy were both house writers for Metric Music, 
which is how they got together. They wrote a handful of tunes 
together. One of the best is a british-invasion style tune 
called "Why Can't You Be Loving Me." As far as I know, that 
was never recorded. Does anyone know of a cut on that song?

- Bill

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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:50:38 EDT From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Twinn Connexion; Four Jacks + a Jill David Coyle wrote: > ..It goes to show how misleading songwriting credits can be... Indeed. LO1KD ("Land of 1,000 Dances") to paraphrase James Cassidy in a previous posting that still cracks me up, on the Treasure Chest repressing of the Cannibal version, is credited to Frankie Garcia, their dynamic lead singer, but if I'm not mistaken it was written by Chris Kenner, who also did the original. Anyone know if the Rampart label gets it right? Twinn Connexion's 45 "I Think I Know Him" is a gorgeous soft-pop with a gorgeous organ shimmering throughout. The lyrics are halfway decent too. Kind of a 6Ts take on Melissa Manchester's "You Should Hear How She Talks About You." Weird version of "Turn-Down Day" on the flip. Co-produced by the prolific Jerry Keller. To me, "Master Jack" is about the "hippie generation" growing up and away from the influence of their Establishment parents (forgive me if I'm getting a little bit PUC here). The lyrics are nothing short of brilliant, and you've gotta look beyond the deceptive whimsy of "You're a very strange man and I thank you...." etc. It's quite a relic of 1968, and out of all the songs that made Top 20 nationally that year, although it's actually not one of my personal faves, is arguably one of the most outstanding for the reasons cited previously by other S'poppers. Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 15:55:05 +0000 From: Stuffed Animal Subject: Stereo Connie/Latin Music in the Brill Building I just remembered something . . . during the pre-production process of CONNIE FRANCIS SOUVENIRS, Pat Niglio revealed to me that he had in his possession a stereo mix of Connie's hit "I Was Such A Fool (To Fall In Love With You)." He swore that no one would ever hear it because it was "horrible." However, he provided the stereo mix of "Born Free" that is heard on the box set. I wouldn't be surprised if Pat Niglio has access to other Connie Francis recordings in stereo. "Don't Ever Leave Me," "Roundabout" and "Love Is Me, Love Is You" (the latter two are excellent Tony Hatch compositions and productions) evidently do not exist in stereo in their English versions, but stereophonic Japanese versions have surfaced over the years. Stereo mixes of "Over-The-Hill Underground" and "Drownin' My Sorrows" were found in the PolyGram vaults, but the latter recording was unfinished. On another subject, I recently discovered that there was a Latin music label housed in the Brill Building (1619 Broadway)! The CEO and A & R director was one Jose Morand, a Latin orchestra leader who'd been working in New York at least since the 1930s. Artists on the label included Ramon Marquez, Monchito, Jose Curbelo and Rene Touzet (Desi Arnaz's pianist). Does anyone have any other information about FIESTA RECORDS? Stuffed Animal -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 16:53:48 -0000 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Quentin E Klopjaeger & Beards Quentin recorded some nice stuff. Would like to find more of his work. He covered John Bromley's "Weatherman" to great (McCartney-esque) effect. Did QEK have a beard like John Kongos? And yes Martin, I do, and I'm proud of it! Especially to be in the company of the others you mention! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:53:52 EDT From: Jimmy Subject: Re: The Cookies Hi David, Morrissey eh??! Who knew! I was playing "I Want A Boy..." at work yesterday on our overhead CD system at the bookstore -- sounds great-- and a woman stopped in her tracks and exclaimed "Oh my God, what IS that? That's beautiful!!!" Jimmy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 16:55:14 -0000 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Re: please... don't... stop... Steve Harvey: > ...keep your eyes peeled for a copy of that rare Philippines > disc, "Beat the Beatles".... Stop. You're killing me. Really, I mean it, stop! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:20:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Master Jack The first act I ever saw at the legendary Main Point in Bryn Mawr was Four Jacks and a Jill. Very nice easy listening type pop. MASTER JACK was the one hit they had. The second album didn't make much noise and they ended up back in South Africa. I remember somebody who used to work at the Main Point telling me one of the Jacks went up the hill with Jill, but not to fetch a pail of water. I think they got married soon after. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:07:39 -0400 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: Brute Force "Tapeworm Of Love" David Coyle: > I have this song [Brute Force - Tapeworm Of Love] on the Sony > CD "Whole Lotta Lava." Noiro: > I have their LP entitled "Brute Force". It is a one man band > and all of the LP is pretty much the same type song. It is > OOP and not on CD to the best of my knowledge. Is that LP by the same Brute Force? He put out two LPs (that I know of) "I, Brute Force, Confections of Love", which contains "Tapeworm of Love" and "To Sit on a Sandwich" and can be usually be found for US$15-20, and "Extemporaneous" which is extremely rare, the last copy I saw was going for US$1200. Oh yeah, and George Harrison signed him to Apple where he did the infamous "King of Fuh" single. He's currently selling a CD compilation, "Tour de Brute Force", on his web site ( RP -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 07:16:50 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Jack Nitzsche Update The Record Of The Week on the home page, is fab - The Pleasures' "Music City". ("Music City" reminds me of a song that contains the lyric, "and the cat came back", can someone put me out of my misery and remind me which one, please!) Next week, the 'strange but true department' brings you the choice of Lou Christie's "Wild Life's In Season" or Jackie DeShannon's, "Dancing Silhouettes", two favourites and both amazingly, unavailable on CD. On The Radio, is playing, "KHJ7 Tijuana". Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 08:52:06 -0000 From: Tony Leong Subject: Laura Nyro's background singers Hi Group: Does anybody know who the background singers were on Laura Nyro's original recordings of "Wedding Bell Blues" and "Stoney End" (yes, Laura recorded that in 1966 long before the Blossoms and Ms. Barbra!!!!)? Tony -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:42:22 -0000 From: David Bell Subject: Phil Spector article A bit late in the day, I know, but I've just noticed that there was a Phil Spector story in Sunday's Observer newspaper in the Review section. There's the usual squalid story but a wonderful picture (oft used) of Phil being held by all 3 Ronettes - lucky guy! David. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:27:44 +0000 From: Stuffed Animal Subject: Connie Francis David wrote: > It seems to me, Stuff, that the team should get together > again and produce another set similar to 'Souvenirs'. Connie > recorded some wonderful tracks in the mid to late 60s that > are hugely neglected. Not much chance of that happening, I'm afraid . . . saleswise, CONNIE FRANCIS SOUVENIRS did not perform up to PolyGram's expectations upon release. In addition to that, my relation- ship with Bill Levenson soured for reasons I won't go into. As for Pat Niglio, as essential as his many contributions to the box set were, he made no secret of the fact that he considered me an interloper. He absolutely did not want me working on that project, and indeed, as time passed, my role diminished (though I'm certainly not blaming him for that). Still, the concept, compilation, research and liner notes are 90% mine! Nothing and nobody can take that away from me. I doubt I'll ever get the chance to work on another Connie Francis release, but I'm proud to say that I took full advantage of the opportunity when I got it...Stuffed Animal worked his furry ass off, and loved (almost) every minute of it! But in terms of what PolyGram/Universal should be doing with the Connie Francis catalog nowadays (which I understand is in litigation right now), I think the time is right to exploit her extensive Spanish-language catalog. And I can't advocate enough the reissue of her jazz-oriented albums (SONGS TO A SWINGIN' BAND (a masterpiece!), A NEW KIND OF CONNIE, CONNIE AND CLYDE, THE EXCITING CONNIE FRANCIS, CONNIE FRANCIS SINGS BACHARACH AND DAVID and WHO'S SORRY NOW). Stuff -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:50:20 -0000 From: Art Longmire Subject: Origins of "High Coin" Does anybody know who was the first to record the song "High Coin" that was written by Van Dyke Parks? I think I heard that it was Bobby Vee but I'm not sure. I first heard it on the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band's first Reprise LP, as an instrumental. I also have it on a Harper's Bizarre album. Both versions are very good - I'm wondering what other acts have recorded this song. Art Longmire -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 06:22:43 -0000 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Chiffons on musica Third entry in the "Keeping The Summer Alive" series is the Chiffons with "When Summer's Through" (Laurie, 1963). Written by the Tokens, it was originally recorded by them on RCA in 1961 and issued on 45 as the b-side of "Sincerely". It was one of two singles the Tokens put out on RCA before "The Lion Sleeps Tonight". The Chiffons version appeared on their "One Fine Day" album in 1963 and again as the b-side of "Sailor Boy", a #81 hit in 1964. The Tokens didn't stop there, as they produced a version of "When Summer Is Through" by the Happenings for their "Psycle" album in 1967. The song also came out as the b-side of the Happenings #41 hit, "Why Do Fools Fall In Love". "When Summer's Through" is an excellent seasonal song in spite of its bridesmaid status. Enjoy this version by the Chiffons now playing at musica. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 06:42:32 -0000 From: Tom Subject: Lollipop Lips/Jawbreaker I remember reading in a tabloid about a year ago about Connie's lawsuit against the inclusion of "Lollipop Lips" in a movie. It's funny, but I remember watching a movie called "Jawbreaker" around 1998 or 1999 and hearing the song in it. I was very pleasantly surprised to hear a good song in a new movie. However, I can tell you, despite the title, "Jawbreaker" is not a porn movie at all. If it was, I would not have been watching it. On the contrary, it's a mildly amusing teenage black comedy. I don't remember the details, except that it was something about a a group of girls that formed a clique and started to murder people unintentionally at first, and then intentionally afterwards. Anyway, the song "Lollipop Lips" is used in a scene in which one of the characters, played by Rose MacGowan of the TV series "Charmed", seduces one of the male characters on a bed while eating a lollipop. It's all quite funny in the way it is done, and I thought the song worked quite well in the scene. That being said, when I read about the lawsuit, I was surprised that it was being referred to as a porn movie when it is anything but. It's just another dark teen comedy, like many of the teenage movies being made currently. Unless, of course, the lawsuit is referring to another film that the song was used in. Whatever the case, I found its inclusion in "Jawbreaker" to be a refreshing break from the typical contemporary rock used in films. Tom -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:59:30 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Parkway Do we have any Cameo Parkway experts out there? I need to know this - was the backing track of Mike Finnegan and The Serfs' Parkway side "Bread And Water" ever released? Is it Googie Rene? It sounds a lot like Googie's "Beautiful Weekend". -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:54:39 +0100 From: Peter Richmond Subject: Righteous Brothers /Johnnie Wimber Stuffed Animal wrote: > Hmmm ... so Wimber didn't arrange the Righteous Brothers > albums SOME BLUE-EYED SOUL and THIS IS NEW! I love RIGHT > NOW! but the latter two LPs are actually my favorites of > the Brothers' Moonglow output. Any idea who wrote the > arrangements for those albums, Peter? They are out of this > world, especially on "Fannie Mae," "Night Owl," "Baby, What > You Want Me To Do," "I Just Wanna Make Love To You" and "Gotta > Tell You How I Feel!" It is possible that Johnnie Wimber had involvement with some of the tracks on the Righteous Brothers album "This Is New" released on Moonglow 1003 in July 1965 because it was anything but new as the title implied. Some tracks were probably recorded prior to Johnnie Wimber leaving in late 1963. (In the UK "This Is New" was issued on Sue 937 by a different title, "In Action" with several track changes.) The album was a showcase for the song "Justine" which the Righteous Brothers had performed in the just released film "Swingin' Summer". It contained both sides of a 1963 Bill Medley single on Moonglow 221, "Gotta Tell You How I Feel"/"If You're Lyin, You'll Be Cryin" and the B side of Bobby Hatfield's 1963 Moonglow 220 single "I Need A Girl" - the main side, "Hot Tamales" was to later appear on the Philles 4009 album "Back To Back" in 1966 after the Righteous Brothers had split from Phil Spector. Also included was a track by the Paramours (featuring Bill Medley) "There She Goes" originally issued on Moonglow 214. The only known arranger credits for any of the tracks on the album is Jack Nitzsche. He is credited on the Moonglow 239 issue of "You Can Have Her", produced by Ahmet Ertegun and recorded much earlier as some kind of demo. This was interesting in that the whole backing track (including girl backing singers singing "You Can have Her") had earlier been utilised on Moonglow 231 "Try To Find Another Man" released in mid 1964. The B side, "I Still Love You", written by Nino Tempo (also on this album) credits Jack Nitzsche as arranger and conductor. As for the tracks on the "Some Blue Eyed Soul" album, Bill Medley and Barry Rillera are credited as arrangers on the Moonglow single releases of "Bring Your Love To Me" on Moonglow 234 and "This Little Girl Of Mine" on Moonglow 235. Jack Nitzsche is credited as arranger and conductor of Moonglow 231 "Try To Find Another Man". No arranger credits are given on the two tracks, "Night Owl"/"My Tears Will Go Away", which uses the same backing tracks on versions by the Righteous Brothers and the Clouds (produced by Bill Medley on Medley Records 1001). Peter Richmond. Righteous Brothers Discography -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:30:27 -0000 From: Allan Rinde Subject: Re: Back up vocals on "Lightning Strikes" (Toni Wine chimes in) Louis wrote: > Denise Ferri sent me an email message with this answer: > > Hi...yes I did sing back-up on several of Patty Duke's songs... > "Don't Just Stand There'...and a few others I can't remember > off-hand....the other back-up singers were Bernadette Carroll > and Peggy Santiglia...we recorded Patty's stuff around the same > time we did Lou Christie's "Lightning Strikes".....thanks for > your interest.... Don't know about the rest of the album, but the BG's on the "Lightning Strikes" single included Toni Wine and Ellie Greenwich. It's possible that Denise was also on that date, (Toni's memory can be foggy, but she has no trouble recognizing her own voice on the bottom of this track) but improbable that all three girls (Denise, Bernadette and Peggy) were. Toni and Ellie can also be heard on Lou's not-quite-a-hit but great nevertheless "I'm Gonna Make You Mine," one of her favorites. Speaking of favorites, and continuing another thread, one of her other favorites is the Cookie's "I Never Dreamed," which she recently performed (on last January's Oldies Cruise) as an impromptu duet with Alex Chilton. Should have had the tape going for that one. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:37:03 -0400 From: Frederick Blackmon Subject: Jaedes Album 1969 To Spectropop: My name is Frederick Blackmon, and I am responding to an e-mail inquiry to Spectropop from Nick Archer concerning The Jaedes 1969 album. I was a cofounding member and songwriter with that group, so it is a great pleasure to hear of Mr. Archer’s interest. The Jaedes were composed of five guys who met at Stillman College, Tuscaloosa, Alabama in 1968. All of us were musical and loved singing. Our voices blended well so we decided to form a vocal group like so many young men of that time period. A booking agent and manager from Tuscaloosa heard us sing and signed us to a contract with him. His name was William Mitchell and he helped us tremendously in getting bookings all over the south. On one particular booking, a little known band at the time from Tuskegee, Alabama, called the Commodores backed us in a performance in Mobile, Alabama in 1968. Back then, we never would have imagined those guys, along with Lionel Ritchie, would go on to be such international stars. During the years 1968 to 1971, The Jaedes performed on shows with many great acts such as The Drifters, The Showmen, Percy Sledge, The Platters and many more legendary acts. We also performed as a complete show, usually with a four piece rhythm section and The Jaedes - performing vocally with choreography. We were hot, and by 1969, could hold our own with anybody in the business. Around the early part of 1969, The Jaedes performed at a frat house on the campus of Vanderbilt University, Nashville, Tennessee. The drummer for our backup band asked if we were interested in recording. He knew of a label there in Nashville, who might be interested in a good R&B act. We said "yes", of course. Richard Powell, a producer and arranger for the Athena label auditioned us and liked what he heard. The very next week, we signed with Athena and produced one 45 and one album with that company. The album was finished around August of 1969. The 45 cut, "Uh, Uh, What Did I Do" was released first, then the album followed. The Jaedes were elated - our first album. Athena, as you probably know, was an independent label competing against major labels. We never made the charts in the U.S. Europe, however, is a different story. As late as 1999, the album was Number 10 on Andreas Knaufs’ play list in Frankfurt, Germany. It is still selling in the United Kingdom and Germany. Sadly, The Jaedes broke up after all of us graduated from Stillman College in 1971. Athena Records also disbanded after internal discord during the early 1970s. It's a shame. Richard Powell was a great string and horn arranger along with my original songs and tight rhythm arrangements. I am the only member performing now as I present a vocal and keyboard presentation here in Hollywood, Florida. I also teach school. The other guys live in Tampa, Florida, Alabama, and the Washington, D.C. area. I know all of them would be thrilled at your interest in The Jaedes album. So many people have told me how much they enjoy the songs. They consider the album an underground hit. The Jaedes members are: Fred Jennings, Naaman Johnson, Earnest Baskerville, and Curtis Jones (deceased). Please contact me via e-mail. I hope to hear from you soon. Frederick Blackmon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:32:51 +0200 From: Sebastian Fonzeus Subject: Re: Toni Wine chimes in Allan Rinde wrote: > Speaking of favorites, and continuing another thread, one of > (Toni's)other favorites is the Cookies' "I Never Dreamed," > which she recently performed (on last January's Oldies Cruise) > as an impromptu duet with Alex Chilton. Should have had the tape > going for that one. Hello! Bloody hell! Sounds absolutely fantastic! :) Take care, Sebastian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:39:15 +0100 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Burt Bacharach An amazing new Bacharach compilation has just come to my attention and I don't think it's been discussed here yet. It's entitled "Rare Bacharach" and is brought to us by the good people at Raven Records Not only is this a compilation of rare Bacharach & David tracks, it's actually two discs' worth! I haven't bought it yet (not cheap on import) but the track listing is absolutely mouth- watering. Pop over to the Raven site now and you'll see what I mean. Anyone got this yet? Guy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:49:31 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: Righteous Brothers/Johnnie Wimber/Jack Nitzsche Peter Richmond wrote: > Jack Nitzsche, Jack Nitzsche, Jack Nitzsche! Well done Pete! You managed to include more Jack Nitzsches than I ever have, thanks! Thanks also for the details of Moonglow 239, "You Can Have Her" - my (regular) copy credits Ahmet Ertegun as producer but has no arranger credit. I'll update Nitzsche's discography next week and include this, along with Sammi Lynn's original release on Staccato of "You Should Know I'm Still Your Baby", which unlike the Sue reissue, credits Jack as arranger. Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:27:50 -0000 From: Ian Chapman Subject: Re: The Cat Came Back Martin wrote: > .....Music City" reminds me of a song that contains the > lyric, "and the cat came back", can someone put me out of > my misery and remind me which one, please!) Hate to see a man in misery.......would it be "Big Daddy & the Cat", by the Blackwells (Jamie/London)? Ian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:30:20 +0100 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re: Origins of "High Coin" Art Longmire wrote: > Does anybody know who was the first to record the song > "High Coin" that was written by Van Dyke Parks? ...I'm > wondering what other acts have recorded this song. An interesting question and I'm sure others here can provide a pretty definitive list. I've often wondered why this song was recorded by so many artists. Compared to other much-covered slices of LA pop, its ubiquity seems intriguing. Take, for instance, Bonner and Gordon's "Me About You", the many recordings of which have been documented here in the past. It's easy to see why so many artists covered the song - Bonner and Gordon were a hot team after the success of "Happy Together" and despite the fact that the song was never a big hit, it sounds like it should have been. "Hey Joe" was another LA anthem that fits into the same bracket. Compared to these two, "High Coin" is a slight, whimsical kind of song. I can sense that it would be a lovely piece of music to play for anybody well schooled in guitar picking but some other factor must explain how it became what the great Brian Hogg called "a "Louie Louie" in minature". Guy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:27:57 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Jaedes Album 1969 This is interesting - there's a 45 - "Hotter Than Fire" on CHERRY RED 144 - by The Jades and the Northern scene always says it's The Commodores! Does this mean (gulp!) they're WRONG!!?? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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