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Spectropop - Digest Number 951



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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 24 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Run To My Lovin' Arms
           From: Mikey 
      2. Re: Murray the K LP
           From: Larry Lapka 
      3. Chiffons' reissues
           From: Mike Edwards 
      4. Re: Chiffons / Stop, Look & Listen
           From: Will Stos 
      5. Royalettes
           From: John Clemente 
      6. Paul Evans interview show is now archived
           From: Ronnie Allen 
      7. Re: Murray The K Live LP
           From: Eddy 
      8. Re: The Chiffons / My Boyfriend's Back
           From: Tony Leong 
      9. Beatles novelties
           From: Andres 
     10. Carol Vega - Chicago - 60's?
           From: Rich 
     11. Re: Chiffons / Stop, Look & Listen
           From: Tony Leong 
     12. Re: Murray The K Live LP
           From: Bill Craig 
     13. XM Radio
           From: Ed 
     14. Re: Tammy St. John / Sandra Barry
           From: B. Vlaovic 
     15. Shangri-Las '84 !
           From: Ellie Greenwich Fan Club 
     16. People Who Died
           From: Mike Nathan 
     17. Checking in..?
           From: Alan Gordon 
     18. Orbison, Osmond, Beatles
           From: Mike Edwards 
     19. Re: Chiffons / Stop, Look & Listen
           From: Mick Patrick 
     20. Re: Murray The K Live LP
           From: Phil Milstein 
     21. Shangri-Las '77 !
           From: Martin Roberts 
     22. Re: Chiffons
           From: Ken Charmer 
     23. Re: Chiffons / Stop, Look & Listen
           From: Mick Patrick 
     24. Re: Carol Vega - Chicago - '60s?
           From: Mick Patrick 


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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:34:55 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Run To My Lovin' Arms Mikey wrote re. "Run To My Lovin' Arms": > Also done quite nicely by Jay and The Americans. Ian Chapman: > And by the Lettermen too, one of several Spector-influenced > tracks the guys cut and the flip of "You'll Be Needing Me > Baby," the Dave Gates song - a great quality 2-sider. >>>>>>And what's interesting about The Lettermen is that "You'll Be Needing Me" is on the "A New Song For Young Love" Lp, but "Run To My Lovin Arms" ISN'T on the Lp!! That happens a lot with The Lettermen, I never did figure out why!! Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 18:22:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Larry Lapka Subject: Re: Murray the K LP Dear Tony: I own the LP in question. It is called Murray the K Presents (Brook-Lyn 302, distributed by Atco) and it has on it cuts by the Rascals, Janis Ian, Bee Gees, Vanilla Fudge, the Blues Project and on the "live" Side Two, performances by Joe Tex, the Shangri-Las, the Royalettes and Dion Jackson. It was put out in 1968. Larry Lapka -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 02:38:30 -0000 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Chiffons' reissues Things were looking up on the Chiffons reissue front in the 80s when Impact Records (which I believe is a subsidiary of UK Ace) put out two fine albums: "Doo-Lang, Doo-Lang, Doo-Lang" (ACT 002) Compiled by Vicki Fox; sleevenotes by Malcolm Baumgart He's So Fine My Boyfriend's Back Stop Look And Listen Tonight I Met An Angel Oh My Lover A Love So Fine Why Am I So Shy Nobody Knows What's Going On In My Mind But Me One Fine Day When The Boy's Happy (The Girl's Happy Too) Sweet Talking Guy I Have A Boyfriend My Block I'm Gonna Sit Right Down And Cry Did You Ever Go Steady Out Of This World "Flips, Flops & Rarities" (ACT 007) Compiled by Mick Patrick; sleevenotes by Mick Patrick He's a Bad One Lucky Me What Am I Gonna Do With You (Hey Baby) Dream, Dream, Dream The Heavenly Place March Tonight I'm Gonna Dream Just For Tonight Up On The Bridge The Real Thing Love Me Like You're Gonna Lose Me Easy To Love (So Hard To Get) Teach Me Now When I Go to Sleep At Night Open Your Eyes (I Will Be There) If I Knew Then (What I Know Now) These 32 tracks are probably all we'll ever need by the group. The second LP seems to contain most of the later material that Spectropoppers write in about. As we all know, Mick Patrick has done a lot of fine compilations for us over the years but "Flips, Flops & Rarities" is his best. Simply a question of having some awesome material available in those dusty tape boxes ....and knowing what to look for. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 03:08:07 -0000 From: Will Stos Subject: Re: Chiffons / Stop, Look & Listen Mick Patrick wrote: > Btw, I dunno who it is singing "Stop, Look And Listen" on said Ace > CD, but it sure AIN'T the Chiffons. Anyone? Are you sure? Every version credited to the Chiffons that appears on other cds is the same cut. It sounds like Sylvia singing lead on the cut. Could it be that it was recorded without Judy because she was off having her child? I still think I hear Judy in the background. The LES Girls' version sounds similar but distinct. Do you have they're original vinyl version? Is it different? Or do you think some studio group cut it and it was released under the Chiffons' name? Will : ) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 23:17:11 -0400 From: John Clemente Subject: Royalettes Hello Everyone, I just got off the telephone with Anita Ross of The Royalettes. She said the group is semi-active again. They appeared at a show in Baltimore at the end of May. There are more shows planned. Anita, her sister, lead singer Sheila Ross, and Roni Brown appeared with The Intruders, The Softones and some local talent. The fourth original member, Terry Jones, could not make it, so Patty Ross, Sheila and Anita's sister stepped in for the part. Anita said it felt just like the old days. They are looking forward to many more performances to come. John Clemente -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 01:59:56 EDT From: Ronnie Allen Subject: Paul Evans interview show is now archived I am very pleased to announce that my June 29th interview show with Paul Evans is now archived on the WBCB website. This man is an incredible talent and certainly one of the under- appreciated singer-songwriters of the rock era. Paul and I had LOADS OF FUN doing the show. Paul told me he got a real kick out of the "Laugh Montage" I put together (you can test yourself and see if you recognize all those "laugh" songs?) and also a kick out of Bobby Vinton's personal recollection on how he discovered Paul's song "Roses Are Red" which changed Vinton's life ..... a story that Paul found both interesting and SURPRISING! I would like to once again publicly thank Paul for being most gracious about the unuexpected six-day postponement of the show and also thank Bobby Vinton for pre-recording his valuable contribution. To listen to the Paul Evans show or the other shows that I've done on WBCB this year (the Murmaids, "Diane Renay And Friends", Sue Thompson) please visit my WBCB page at the following link address: http://www.wbcb1490.com/rallen.htm Thanks to all of you who have e-mailed me comments on these shows ..... they are MOST APPRECIATED and taken very seriously! Ronnie Allen E-mail: RonnieOldiesGuy@aol.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:15:43 +0200 From: Eddy Subject: Re: Murray The K Live LP Tony Leong wrote: > Years ago in an oldies vinyl store, I once saw an LP of a live > Murray The K Show (obviously taped in late 1965). I distinctly > remember seeing the listing for the Royalettes doing "It's Gonna > Take A Miracle", Shangri-Las singing "I Can Never Go Home AnyMore", > and the Young Racals (I think doing "Aint Gonna Eat My Heart > Out..."). Does anybody know of this LP??? Does anybody HAVE this > LP??? Can anybody tell me what else was on this LP? I am curious, > since I never saw this LP again!!!. I already have the 1963 and '64 > Holiday Shows (well, snippets from them) on CD, and they are a > HOOT!!!!! Phil Milstein: > Murray The K Presents: > The Rascals: I Ain't Gonna Eat Out My Heart Anymore > Janis Ian: Society's Child > The Bee Gees: Holiday > Vanilla Fudge: You Keep Me Hangin' On > Janis Ian: Younger Generation Blues > The Bee Gees: To Love Somebody > The Blues Project: Wake Me, Shake Me > Joe Tex: Hold Onto What You've Got > Joe Tex: You've Got What It Takes > The Shangri-Las: I Can Never Go Home Anymore > The Royalettes: It's Gonna Take A Miracle > Deon Jackson: Love Makes The World Go 'Round Are these actually live versions ? Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 07:37:54 -0000 From: Tony Leong Subject: Re: The Chiffons / My Boyfriend's Back Ian Chapman: > ...Right from the drum-filled spoken intro, with Sylvia's hip > "aah, sing it Judy" response, the record has bite and the > girls really sound like they're not to be messed with! Aaaaah Ian, Hi, it was PAT, not Sylvia, that said "Aaaaah sing it Judy" at the beginning of the Chiffons' "My Boyfriend's Back". Tony Leong -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 07:14:39 -0000 From: Andres Subject: Beatles novelties Hi people, If you are interested in Beatles novelty songs pls check out my page http://monstr66.narod.ru/index.html Andres -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 11:12:10 -0000 From: Rich Subject: Carol Vega - Chicago - 60's? I'm looking for any information available on Carol Vega. The following is all that I know: She was a vocalist with a short-lived band called the Starfires for about a year in 1962/63. She was married to the Starfires bass-player, Johnny Moore, for a brief time before she became a recording artist, releasing a couple of singles including: I Need You Around / Sugar over You, 1964 (Constellation 121) One Little Thing (Chess) "Sugar over You" was listed at number 31 on WLS, Chicago Radio SILVER DOLLAR SURVEY MAY 22, 1964 If anyone has any idea how I might find additional info please let me know. Rich P.S. The Starfires was one of Paul Cotton's (of Poco) early bands. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 07:49:07 -0000 From: Tony Leong Subject: Re: Chiffons / Stop, Look & Listen Mick Patrick: > Btw, I dunno who it is singing "Stop, Look And Listen" on said > Ace CD, but it sure AIN'T the Chiffons. Anyone? Hi Mick, have you recovered yet from the SpectroPop Shindig?? Neither I nor the Chiffons know whose version of "Stop Look and Listen" is on that Ace CD. I have since read that one of Ellie Greenwich's studio groups LesGirls cut a version of that song. Perhaps it's them??? Oddly, when I gave Judy and Sylvia and Pat a cassette of the CD, they claimed that "He's A Bad One" was not them either!!! That was strange, that certainly sounds like the great Sylvia on lead and Judy echoing on the backgound. BTW, that Big Deal "Chiffons" was NOT the Chiffons we know (as we have all since discovered). As I have posted before, the Laurie Chiffons that we worship (literally) did not adopt that name until AFTER they actually recorded "He's So Fine" in late 1962 and made the deal with Ronnie Mack with a handshake!!!! Judy, Pat and Barbara didnt even meet Sylvia until it was time to record "He's So Fine". Bit of history right from the source--the group themselves!!!!!!! Tony Leong (remember me?? The Delrons' fanatic!!! Well, at least I didn't bug you when you played the Shangri-Las!!!!!!!) Cheers..... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 12:18:39 -0000 From: Bill Craig Subject: Re: Murray The K Live LP > Murray The K Presents: > The Rascals: I Ain't Gonna Eat Out My Heart Anymore > Janis Ian: Society's Child > The Bee Gees: Holiday > Vanilla Fudge: You Keep Me Hangin' On > Janis Ian: Younger Generation Blues > The Bee Gees: To Love Somebody > The Blues Project: Wake Me, Shake Me > Joe Tex: Hold Onto What You've Got > Joe Tex: You've Got What It Takes > The Shangri-Las: I Can Never Go Home Anymore > The Royalettes: It's Gonna Take A Miracle > Deon Jackson: Love Makes The World Go 'Round If these are the tracks and artists the year 1965 seems to be a couple of years too early. Maybe '67 or '68.Can this truely be live? Ooh Ha, (Not to be confused with Hey La, This is more of an Al Pacino thing) Bill Craig -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 11:13:08 EDT From: Ed Subject: XM Radio This post is a bit late, but the 60-s channel on XM radio is currently attempting to play every song that's ever been played on AM radio, and is now on the 60s. (Actually they were initially touting it as every popular song ever played on the radio for the past 60 years, but I guess they realized how large a claim that would be, so now I think they're calling it the most complete playlist of all time.) Well worth hearing, if it's an option. I want to just drive around all day, so I can listen to it. A couple of songs that grabbed me was Del Shannon's "Keep Seaching," Martha and the Vandellas "Wild One," and it was even fun top hear Buck Owens "Tiger By The Tail" because I haven't heard it since the old days. Ed -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 13:27:55 -0400 From: B. Vlaovic Subject: Re: Tammy St. John / Sandra Barry I've never heard Tammy St. John's version of 'Dark Shadows and Empty Hallways' but I love the Dianne and Anita version as well as the version by the Chad Mitchell Trio! What an undiscovered gem that song is! I also love Tammy's verison of 'Stay Together Young Lovers' (Here Come the Girls - Vol #10 'Girls Don't Come'), moreso than the original by Brenda and the Tabulations (lovely as that one is though). While we're talking about obscure British femmes what about Sandra Barry! I was shocked to find out that she later turned up in the Police meets Blondie styled group Darling, circa 1978 looking too anorexic with flaming red hair backed by a band of bleach blonde punks. What a trip! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 17:44:58 -0000 From: Ellie Greenwich Fan Club Subject: Shangri-Las '84 ! Great article on The Shangri-las '77. In 1984 I was fortunate to hear a tape of Betty and Marge singing about 5 songs. They were accompanied by a guitar. Marge gave the tape to a long time friend and original Shangri-las fan club member. It was the real thing...the fan had photos with her and Marge. I wasn't impressed with the songs on the tape, they were in the vein of "I can never go home" and "Dressed in Black". Mary did not sing with her former group members on this tape. I don't know what became of the tape or the person who owns it. We met hundreds of fans during the run of "Leader" at the Bottom Line and Broadway, many of them are STILL in touch nearly 20 years later!!! Joe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:49:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Nathan Subject: People Who Died Does anyone remember the record "(Those are) People Who Died"? Who recorded it, when, etc. Thanks, Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 11:16:13 -0700 From: Alan Gordon Subject: Checking in..? > Just a few words to say 'hi'. > Seven, apparently. > Cheers, Andrew I counted 13... but that's just me... albabe PS: Welcome -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 02:15:49 -0000 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Orbison, Osmond, Beatles This is perfect. There have been a lot of messages regarding Roy Orbison on Spectropop and a lot concerning the Osmonds on the Harmony High site. Segue to Joel Whitburn's book, Top Pop Singles 1955-1993 and we find "Sweet And Innocent" listed as Donny Osmond's first solo chart entry in 1971. Joel tells us that this was originally recorded by Roy Orbison on RCA 7381 in 1958! You know I always thought Donny's "Sweet And Innocent" was a great record and hopefully it now qualifies for inclusion on Phil Milstein's Roy Orbison soundalikes' CD. Joel is not always right, though. Listed alongside "Nut Rocker" by B Bumble & The Stingers is a note that says Lincoln Mayorga played piano on this great track. We now know it was Al Hazan, which brings us to the Beatles. I was very pleased to see Pete Best make a guest appearance on ABC TV's "Good Morning America" to promote his new book, "The Beatles The True Beginnings" (on amazon.com, starting at $15), which I am looking forward to reading. Such is the public's appetite for the Beatles, that this makes the 4th book currently in print on Pete Best alone! Incredible considering he was out of the group before they released their first UK single, "Love Me Do".. and before they met Al Hazan. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 20:57:17 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Chiffons / Stop, Look & Listen I wrote: > Btw, I dunno who it is singing "Stop, Look And Listen" on > said Ace CD, but it sure AIN'T the Chiffons. Anyone? Will Stos asked: > Are you sure? Every version credited to the Chiffons that > appears on other cds is the same cut. Hey la, Oh yes, I'm sure. Those other CDs have the wrong version of "Stop, Look And Listen" too. > Do you have their original vinyl version? Is it different? Yes I do have the original single. That's how come I know the CD version is not the Chiffons. Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 14:44:27 -0500 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Murray The K Live LP Eddy wrote: > Are these actually live versions ? They sound like it to me. Pick a track, and I'll try to post it to musica. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:20:56 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Shangri-Las '77 ! Joe wrote: > Great article on The Shangri-las '77 at: > http://www.spectropop.com/Shangri-Las/index.htm Hear, hear, worth the read for the first sentence alone! And what about those pictures?! Very interesting story excellently told by Phil Milstein, with all the background info you could wish for, bar the music...and perhaps that's no bad thing. Joe writes on hearing 5, guitar backed demos, by Marge and not caring for them, although I must say that sounding like "Dressed In Black" and "I Can Never Go Home Anymore", sure sounds like a plus to me! What does cause concern is Mary, Liz and Marge's dismissal of all their previous recordings besides, "Out In The Streets". I would love to hear these 1977 demos but perhaps our memories and their reputation are best served by some feisty rockumentaries packaged as two-minute-plus songs which encompassed all life, much of the universe and almost everything else! The link to John Grecco's Shangri-Las biography at http://www.redbirdent.com/slas1.htm is welcome and well deserved, but I would suggest equal endorsement of Mick Patrick's sleeve notes for The Shangri-Las' "Myrmidons of Melodrama" CD on RPM. Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 22:23:07 +0100 From: Ken Charmer Subject: Re: Chiffons Re the ongoing tracks, it is interesting to hear Mick's take on the CD sleeve notes. Does this mean there is no accurate discography of the group ? Is the article by Peter Doggett from Record Collector a few years ago accurate? The ACE vinyl album 'Stop Look and Listen' from 1985 is still my source for 'Love Me Like Your Gonna Lose Me' (Thanks to Mick's compilation) and 1981's 'everthing you ever wanted to hear...' from RCA which contains a complete? Laurie/Rust discography and the wonderful 'Just For Tonight'. The question is whether everything from the vaults out or are we being deprived? Ken Charmer -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 22:27:17 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Chiffons / Stop, Look & Listen Tony Leong: > Hi Mick, have you recovered yet from the Spectropop Shindig?? Hey la, Tony. One body-clock now happily restored to Greenwich Mean Time. Unfortunately, I'm still permanently tired. Mind you, I was before I went! Thanks for caring. :-) > Neither I nor the Chiffons know whose version of "Stop Look and > Listen" is on that Ace CD. I have since read that one of Ellie > Greenwich's studio groups, Les Girls, cut a version of that song. > Perhaps it's them??? Oh no, I have the Les Girls record and it's *not* them. In fact, the Les Girls version uses the same backing track as the Chiffons. "Stop, Look And Listen" by Les Girls is available on the Ace CD "Kiss 'N' Tell: Thirty Works Of Heart" (Ace CDCHD 330). This CD also contains *three* tracks by the Chiffons that were NOT included on Ace's "Chiffons Greatest Recordings" CD (the one with the *wrong* version of "Stop, Look And Listen" on), not to mention the Del-Rons' first record, *all* from mastertapes. Plug over! > Oddly, when I gave Judy and Sylvia and Pat a cassette of the CD, > they claimed that "He's A Bad One" was not them either!!! That > was strange, that certainly sounds like the great Sylvia on lead > and Judy echoing on the background. Odd indeed! I'm *sure* "He's A Bad One" *is* by the real Chiffons. Whatever, I love it whoever it is. > Tony Leong (remember me?? The Delrons' fanatic!!!) You must've been happy, then? I think I played three Reparata & the Delrons tracks at the Shindig!. Did you check out Sheila's new webmag? It contains an interview with Reparata. If not, click here: http://www.chachacharming.com/article.php?id=9 Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 00:04:21 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Carol Vega - Chicago - '60s? Rich: > I'm looking for any information available on Carol Vega. The > following is all that I know: She was a vocalist with a short- > lived band called the Starfires for about a year in 1962/63. > She was married to the Starfires bass-player, Johnny Moore, > for a brief time before she became a recording artist, releasing > a couple of singles including: > I Need You Around / Sugar over You, 1964 (Constellation 121) > One Little Thing (Chess) Hey la, "One Little Thing" - a lovely Jan Bradley/Jackie Ross soundalike, yes? - was released on Argo 5490 in 1965. The B-side was "One Little Lie". "One Little Thing" is featured on the CD "Where The Girls Are, Vol 3: Chess Female Singers And Groups" (Ace CDCHD 745). Full tracklist here: http://216.15.202.119/cgi-bin/SearchCatNo.asp?lngID=183800 More info here: http://216.15.202.119/MoreInfo/CDCHD745.html Here's a paragraph I wrote for the booklet: > Carol Vega and Denise Craig each recorded for the independent > production company of Chicago-based William "Billy The Kid" > Emerson. The Florida-born rock 'n' roller-turned-entrepreneur > leased Carol's debut, "Sugar Over You", to the Constellation > label in 1964, followed by "One Little Thing" to Chess' Argo > subsidiary the following year. Another year later he utilised > the very same Argo backing track of the latter title when he > re-cut the song with Denise, which he issued as the flip-side > of her debut, "A Love Reputation", on his Tarpon logo. Ms > Craig went on to achieve great fame as Denise LaSalle, while > Carol Vega, unfortunately, was not heard from again. So, tell me a bit more about the Starfires please. What was their full line-up? Have you any pictures? Does Carol sing on any of their records? Are the Starfires connected with the label of the same name? Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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