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Spectropop - Digest Number 934



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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Baker Knight etc
           From: Mikey 
      2. Re: Roy-like Beatles
           From: Mikey 
      3. Re: Party
           From: Bill George 
      4. Re. Please Please Me
           From: Steve Harvey 
      5. IMPRTY album review from Discoveries,  2001
           From: Doc Rock 
      6. Re: Orbisounds/I Could Have Loved You So Well
           From: Don 
      7. Correct David Box website
           From: Country Paul 
      8. Re. Johnny & the Hurricanes
           From: Andrew 
      9. Nuggets II
           From: Dave Mirich 
     10. Re: Chad  Stuart solo album
           From: JJ 
     11. For Will George
           From: Tony  Leong 
     12. Re: Roy Orbison answer song
           From: Simon White 
     13. More on Roy
           From: Simon White 
     14. Re: The Forum, Bobby Rydell
           From: Ron 
     15. Re:The Songs of Baker Knight/Round Robin
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     16. Re: Orbisongs
           From: Bill Craig 
     17. Rudy Clark
           From: Stuffed Animal 
     18. Darlene Love
           From: John Fox 
     19. Spector/Starsailor
           From: David A. Young 
     20. The Actionettes
           From: Amber 
     21. Re: Attack
           From: Bill George 
     22. Re: I Could Have Loved You So Well
           From: Martin Roberts 
     23. Re: The Actionettes
           From: Amber 
     24. Re: DC5
           From: Dave Mirich 
     25. Re: The Forum, Bobby Rydell
           From: Art Longmire 


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Message: 1
   Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:17:40 -0400
   From: Mikey 
Subject: Re: Baker Knight etc

Ahhh......Baker Knight.

Great songwriter.  Wrote a just amazing track for Dino, Desi 
and Billy called "I Hope She's There Tonight", off their 
"Souvenirs" LP. This record should have beeen an A side, it 
would have been a hit, me thinks..

Mikey




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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:19:01 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Roy-like Beatles Steve Harvey: > The Beatles' "Please Please Me" pre-Martin version was very > Orbisonish until George Martin changed it around. > Alan Gordon: > Do you have this version, Steve? I have hundreds of hours of > Beatles, Threatles and solo stuff, but I've only heard about > this slowed-down version, I've never actually heard it. You haven't heard it because it doesn't exist, not even in acetate form. EMI erased the one tape of it very, very early in the Beatles career. All that exists is a very early take of PPM AFTER they speeded it up. Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:43:11 EDT From: Bill George Subject: Re: Party Tony Leong asked: > First off (and this is embarrassing), there's 2 people whose > names I have forgotten, but it was great to meet them. The > first was the guy with the Jackie DeShannon T-shirt That would be me. And the guy in the Ronnie Spector shirt is David Young, aka Spector Collector. - Bill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:43:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re. Please Please Me Alan Gordon re. the pre-Martin version of "Please Please Me": > Do you have this version, Steve? No, there is no recording of this version that I know of. Just read about it as part of George Martin's sorting out process when it came to recording material. I would have loved to have heard it. I know the beginning on the official recording was not the original beginning the way the Beatles had written it. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 00:06:37 -0400 From: Doc Rock Subject: IMPRTY album review from Discoveries, 2001 Can I Get To Know You Better It's My Party Mister Cat Records 1201 By Doc Rock The Rockabilly revival of a few years ago and the current Swing revival have produced some fine music. But few of these movements' revival tunes could be mistaken for vintage originals. But the retro Girl Group, cleverly named It's My Party, after the 1963 Lesley Gore #1 hit, has a sound that is 99 and 44/100s% pure and might easily be (mis)taken for the real thing. The group consists of three girls who embody the look of the early '60s, with a ton of hairspray, matching sweaters and blouses, and poses that recreate the old photos of the Angels, the Pixies Three, and the Secrets. Aubrey, 16, and identical twins Cara and Rhian, especially bring to mind the spirit of the Shangri-Las. In fact, cut eight of the 12 on this CD is a faithful and powerful recreation of the Shangri-Las' "Give Him A Great Big Kiss." Other recreations include the Sloan-Barri composition, "Can I Get To Know You Better" and an incredible re-production (sic) of a song Bob Crewe wrote and recorded with the Rag Dolls in 1964, "Dusty." The other cuts blend so well itís hard to believe Mister Cat didn't find some old '60s tapes in a vault somewhere. And there are no repeats of the five tracks on the group's previous two CD-single releases. The girls take turns on lead, and the sound from cut to cut is as fresh as it is retro. As with all '60s- style Girl Groups, no review is complete without a nod to the male producer. John Giotto is the creator/mastermind/composer/ engineer/drummer/keyboardist/arranger behind It's My Party. His dedication to period and attention to detail provide a treat for any fan of the old Girl Group sound. The only thing that keeps It's My Party from sounding 100% pure is the recording quality. No '60s LP ever sounded THIS good! It's My Party is available from Mister Cat Records, Box 25622, Rochester, NY 14625 or at http://www.itsmypartyonline.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 04:07:02 -0000 From: Don Subject: Re: Orbisounds/I Could Have Loved You So Well Ian Chapman wrote: > BTW, I've just discovered there were two other versions of > the song by Jack Bedient on Columbia in '67 and a later one > by Jimmy Beaumont & the Skyliners, dating from '74 on Capitol. > Any info or opinions on these, anyone? My favorite version is by the Skyliners. I didn't realize it was from '74. I've only heard this King/Goffin song by them & Ray Peterson, and now Chance Eden. Ray Peterson's version is a little thin. I could play the Skyliners to musica if someone is interested. Don -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 01:07:25 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: Correct David Box website Mike Edwards: > "Country" Paul comments on one of my choices for PM's Roy > Orbison related CD: David Box - If You Can't Say Something > Nice (Candix) 1962 Written by Roy Orbison-Joe Melson-Ray Rush As far as I know, this is not out on a CD, even a boot, yet. It just came out on a CD produced by his sister, with all the material he released and a lot more. Available from http://www.davidbox.net My check's already in the mail - and that ISN'T one of the three great lies! Steve Grant; > Continuing the Al Casey thread: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2540782073&ssPageName=A Excellent history. Thank you! Short post tonight - more soon! Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 01:11:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Subject: Re. Johnny & the Hurricanes David Coyle asked: > NEUTRONS - "Julia" b/w "Cut-Out" (Golden Triangle 1002) > Out of curiosity, is the b-side of this the same song > as recorded by Johnny & The Hurricanes? If so, which > came first? I've never heard Johnny & the Hurricanes' "Cut-Out," and neither has the man I mentioned previously. However, both sides of the Neutrons single were written by one Guy Lore, who was apparently a band member; so if this is the same "Cut-Out" that the Hurricanes did, then the Neutrons did it first, circa 1963-64. By the way, are you familiar with a Johnny & the Hurricanes single, "It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World" b/w "Shadows," on the Mala label? I've got a copy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:13:42 -0600 From: Dave Mirich Subject: Nuggets II Art wrote: > Anybody else pick up the latest issue of Uncut magazine? > It has a bonus CD of British psych and was a real bargain > at only eight bucks. The track by Dantalion's Chariot alone > was worth the price. Also got to hear My Friend Jack by the > Smoke for the first time. Excellent. Art, if you like what you heard on the Uncut CD, you will flip over the Nuggets II box. I've probably listened to it 100 times and continue to be fascinated by most of it. What an education! Good job Andrew S. and crew. Dave Mirich -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 05:20:16 -0000 From: JJ Subject: Re: Chad Stuart solo album Art Longmire: > Another album I wish somebody would issue on CD is the one > by Chad Stuart that originally came out on Bell records back > in 1968. I'm surprised this album hasn't gotten more attention > ...it's a Bill Traut Dunwich production and is every bit as > good as "Cabbages and Kings" and "The Ark". Could you please supply more info on this solo LP, i.e. rec #, track listing, Thanx in advance, JJ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 06:01:09 -0000 From: Tony Leong Subject: For Will George Hi Will, it was YOU - "the guy with the Jackie DeShannon T-shirt" - whose name I could not recall. And you introduced me to Phil Chapman. I was trying to remember the song that Jackie DeShannon was singing in an auto scrapyard on "Where The Action Is". It was "I Can Make It With You". Talk to you soon, Tony Leong -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:30:36 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Roy Orbison answer song Simon White wrote: > Not sure if this counts but I have a 45 answer record to > "Pretty Woman" called "Lovin Man" in a more country syle, > but with the same beat. I cant remember the artiste so I'll > have to dig it out. and now I'm writing this: Found it. It's called "Lovin' Man (Oh Pretty Woman)" credited to R. Orbison/B. Dees and is by Arlene Harden on Columbia 445120. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 09:05:08 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: More on Roy Spectropoppers may find this amusing or disturbing. I thought it was one of the funniest things I ever saw and in a very sweet way: http://www.michaelkelly.fsnet.co.uk/karl.htm -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:39:07 -0000 From: Ron Subject: Re: The Forum, Bobby Rydell Art Longmire wrote: > ...the Grass Roots also recorded "River" but I like the > Forum original best. I also have a version of the tune by > Bobby Rydell that is interesting in that it has several > extra verses..... I would love to hear the Bobby Rydell version of "The River Is Wide". Finding that version has been a quest of mine for many years. I was under the impression that his was the original. I was also under the impression that he did the original version of "Lovin' Things", another quest. But then again my impressions have apparently been altering with age. Ron -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:40:53 +0100 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re:The Songs of Baker Knight/Round Robin Ian wrote: > Baker Knight is a songwriter whose greatest successes include > the million-selling hits for Rick Nelson, "Lonesome Town" and > "There'll Never Be Anyone Else But You" and Elvis' "The Wonder > Of You". But for the girl-group/Spectorsound aficionados > amongst us, he is more readily known as the man responsible > for such minor classics such as the Delicates' "Comin' Down > With Love", the Blossoms' "Deep Into My Heart" and my > personal favourite, Timi Yuro's utterly wonderful "Teardrops > Till Dawn". There's even more variety to the Baker Knight canon. He supplied bespoke teen pop to the likes of Dino, Desi & Billy and Nancy Sinatra and wrote the haunting psychedelic waltz "Shifting Sands" for the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band. He also wrote the horror-punk rocker "I'm The Wolfman" for my man Round Robin and supplied first rate Bubblegum to cereal spin-offs the Sugar Bears. Talking of Round Robin, Mick and I are planning a little Spectropop page dedicated to him. Therefore I'd like to renew my appeal for anything relating to the King of Slauson - information, scans and above all pictures will be gratefully received and a copy of my "Best Of" CDR will be sent in return. Please get in touch with me off-list if you can help. Regards, Guy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:16:29 -0000 From: Bill Craig Subject: Re: Orbisongs Bill Craig: > Just thought of another by a mid-'80s band, Cock Robin. > The song is called "When Your Heart Is Weak". It's an obvious > homage to R.O. Country Paul responded: > I love the song, but I don't hear the obvious homage. I do > hear the influence in Chris Isaak, though (thanks, Bill George). I guess I overstated the obvious aspect of the song's depth to The Big O. Influence is in the ear of the beholder. Structurally' "When Your Heart Is Weak" doesn't fit the criteria of the building to a big dramatic finish, but vocal style and voice quality immediately struck me as derivative (in a good way) of Roy. Also thematically I think this is a song I could easily hear him doing. Certainly the Chis Isaak rockabilly balladeer sound is a direct descendant of Roy. Sorry to have missed the party. Babysitting coverage fell through. Hope to catch the next one. Regards, Bill Craig -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:34:23 +0000 From: Stuffed Animal Subject: Rudy Clark Does anyone know if Rudy "Good Lovin'" Clark is still alive and active in the music industry? Stuff -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 09:44:51 EDT From: John Fox Subject: Darlene Love Re: Dance With The Guitar Man / Darlene Love As I once wrote in a 1985 magazine article on my favorite singer, "In 1963, Darlene Love had more aliases than Lee Harvey Oswald." And don't forget Darlene & The Blossoms on the lead vocals for Dick Dale's "King of the Surf Guitar" (didn't chart), and backing up one of the all-time great minor hits, "Kick That Little Foot Sally Ann" by Round Robin (one of the artists, by the way, about whom Joel Whitburn can add absolutely nothing for his Top Pop singles listing!) John Fox -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:20:27 +0000 From: David A. Young Subject: Spector/Starsailor The new NME has a feature on the upcoming Starsailor album arriving in September, as well as member James Walsh's impressions of working with Phil. Only two of the Spector tracks have been selected for release, including the album's title cut, "Silence Is Easy," due out as a single a couple of weeks before the full-length. Read more here: http://www.nme.com/news/105392.htm David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 21:03:43 +0100 From: Amber Subject: The Actionettes Sugars, Cherubs, Sunbeams, Darlings, A little bird informs me that many of my new London chums will again be out on the town at the Actionettes next extravaganza, a Summer Special to be held at the Water Rats, 328 Grays Inn Road, Kings Cross, London on Saturday July 26th. If I can sneak out again, I'll be there in my best little floral number. I hear our very own Miss Elisabeth has been invited to join the glittering Actionettes on stage and will be debuting two new summery additions to her repertoire. I can hardly wait. I have placed a flyer in the photo section. Is there no end to my talents?! :-) For flyer: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/vwp?.dir=/&.dnm=The+Actionettes+Summer+Special.jpg&.src=gr&.view=t AvT xxx -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:50:00 EDT From: Bill George Subject: Re: Attack > I almost had a caniption when they sang "Attack". The lead was > dead on. And those harmonies....better than rekkids even! That was my favorite tune they sang, and I can't get the chorus out of my head. Who sang the original? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 22:11:27 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: I Could Have Loved You So Well Hi Don, Yes I'd love to hear Jimmy Beaumont's version of "I Could Have Loved..." and, if asked for, I could play Jack Bedient/Chessmen's take on the song. Although musica is crammed full of good tunes at present. I mentioned wishing to hear a 'real' vocalist on this song but omitted to mention that The Big 'O' himself could, and should, have done the Goffin/ Mann song justice. Vocally - before hearing Jimmy B's (What two of 'em!) - I'd have to give the golden tonsil award to Britain's own Jan Burnette. She released tons of records (some are pretty good!) and, despite her vocal being a bit 'straight', she successfully reaches the climax without sounding as if she's turned purple and about to collapse! Martin PS Dear Amber, I am very impressed with your talents in uploading flyers (among other things) but sorry, you will need to work harder on giving the address. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 23:05:42 +0100 From: Amber Subject: Re: The Actionettes Cheeky monkey Martin wrote: > PS Dear Amber, I am very impressed with your talents in > uploading flyers (among other things) but sorry, you will > need to work harder on giving the address. Martin, you flirtatious florist, you, Oh dear, was the unbelievably long URL I quoted too long for you to handle? Poor babeeeeeeeeeeeeee! It worked for me, I swear. Send out a search party for your reading spex and then try this shorter one: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/ The Actionettes flyer is located at bottom right. Keep fingering it and watch it get bigger and bigger. Gotta trot, there's a pyjama party in Joey Heatherton's cell, I mean room, tonight and the ice cubes in my fanny bag are melting. AvT xxx -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:04:50 -0600 From: Dave Mirich Subject: Re: DC5 At the oldies show this weekend I saw Mike Smith, the singer from the Dave Clark 5 with his band doing the old hits. He said it was the first time he has toured the US since '67. He sounded pretty good. I wonder if he has to pay DC for singing his songs? Apparently DC is more interested these days in chasing bootleggers than releasing new, remastered, repackaged product from the vaults. I wonder what he has been doing all these years? Recluse is often the word associated with his name. Dave Mirich -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 22:10:17 -0000 From: Art Longmire Subject: Re: The Forum, Bobby Rydell Me: > ...the Grass Roots also recorded "River" but I like the > Forum original best. I also have a version of the tune by > Bobby Rydell that is interesting in that it has several > extra verses..... Ron: > I would love to hear the Bobby Rydell version of "The River > Is Wide". Finding that version has been a quest of mine for > many years. I was under the impression that his was the > original. I was also under the impression that he did the > original version of "Lovin' Things", another quest. But then > again my impressions have apparently been altering with age. Hello, Ron! Thanks for your info, it never occurred to me that Rydell's version might be the first. The version as performed by the Forum is actually the last couple of verses, Rydell's is the complete song. I just thought that the song was one of those tunes that was widely recorded by numerous artists. For instance I have a copy of the song "Midnight Confessions" by a group called The Evergreen Blues and several years after getting it found that it was the original version. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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