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Spectropop - Digest Number 924



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There are 19 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Graduation Day
           From: Doc Rock 
      2. Re: Jackie De Shannon
           From: Clarke Davis 
      3. Re: Maxine Brown
           From: Ken Silverwood 
      4. Re:  Midnight Joey
           From: Artie Wayne 
      5. Re: The Big O
           From: Ron 
      6. Brian Wilson in NY
           From: Mike Edwards 
      7. Re: Jackie De Shannon
           From: Artie Wayne 
      8. Orbisonian tunes
           From: James Cassidy 
      9. The "real" Roy Orbison song
           From: Clark Besch 
     10. Feelin' No Pain
           From: Phil Milstein 
     11. Re: Lisa Hartman
           From: Bill George 
     12. Beyond the Trees/Sanusky's Monk/Ron Britain/Brelyn/Crescendos
           From: Clark Besch 
     13. Re: Girl Group Question
           From: Jeffrey Glenn 
     14. Roy Orbison/Lovin' Man
           From: David Bell 
     15. Re: Brian Wilson's NYC concert
           From: Andrew Hickey 
     16. Graduation Day
           From: Phil Milstein 
     17. Re: Brian Wilson in NY
           From: Andrew Hickey 
     18. Re: Maxine Brown
           From: David Bell 
     19. Roy soundalikes
           From: Rob 


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Message: 1
   Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:04:09 -0400
   From: Doc Rock 
Subject: Graduation Day

Premier version: Rover Boys, 1956

Cover Version: Four Freshmen

Then 1963 - Bobby Picket.

1967 - Arbors.

And many non-hit versions.



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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 05:04:29 -0000 From: Clarke Davis Subject: Re: Jackie De Shannon There is an incredible song by Jackie DeShannon that I cannot find on any CD. Anyone else looking for "Your Baby Is A Lady"? I think this is one of her finest, and wish it were available on CD! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:16:57 +0100 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Re: Maxine Brown Wendy Flynn asked: > did anyone see Maxine Brown perform at Cleethorpes on > Saturday night? I was too busy in one of the chalets moaning > after dancing for too long. I still stink of Deep Heat! > Anyway - was she deadly? Is that "Deep Heat" used as a perfume, an alcoholic substitute or the old fashioned way? Sounds a great night anywhichway! Did she do "Torture"? Did she do "One In A Million"? Ken On The West Coast. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 05:33:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Midnight Joey Michael Gessner asked: > "1963.. answer song to 'Midnight Mary'. Is the Lorna Dune > title '(Meet you at) Midnight Joey' or just 'Midnight Joey'?" > I emailed Artie Wayne (who wrote the thing). He's aware of > it but never heard it. Michael........How ya' doin'? The title of the answer to "[Meet me at] Midnight Mary" was "[I'll meet you at] Midnight Joey." regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:58:12 -0000 From: Ron Subject: Re: The Big O Three Roy type songs that pop into my mind: "I'll Never Dance Again" - Bobby Rydell "He'll Only Hurt You" - Dion (another Columbia "b" side) "It Hurts Me" - Bobby Sherman (thanks to Gary Usher) Ron -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:24:45 -0400 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Brian Wilson in NY Thanks, Paul, for the very detailed write-up on Brian Wilsonís recent performance at NYCís Beacon Theatre. Clearly you put a lot of work into this. Looking at the song titles, I was surprised to see so many of the Beach Boysí pop tunes included. Somehow reading about Brian in Spectropop led me to think that he had moved onto other things and regarded the Beach Boys early output as inconsequential, leaving them to be performed live by the two other Beach Boysí road units. Thanks again, Paul Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:54:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Jackie De Shannon Bill.........How ya' doin'? First I want to tell you that I think your Jackie DeShannon website is very "Cool"! I first met Jackie back in 1964 when she was on tour with the Beatles in New York. We had talked on the phone a few times after I cut a couple of her songs with Joey Powers ["Midnight Mary"] and we arranged to get together when she got to town. We hit it off immediately with our mutual love of music, dancing and art museums. I was going to show her "My New York", but she wound up showing me "Her world". That included after hour jam sessions in Greenwich village with Dave Von Ronk, John Hammond Jr. and Tom Paxton ............as well as showing me how to play songs she just learned from Bob Dylan and John Lennon. My first [and only] single for Liberty records, "Where Does A Rock and Roll Singer Go [When His Record's Off the Charts?"] just bombed out and I was discouraged with the music business in the States. Jackie suggested that I go to the U K, where I just had a top ten hit with "Queen for Tonight" by Helen Shapiro. She said that I should go to London when she would be there..... in November 1964 when she would be promoting her latest single. Once again, I was swept away to her galaxy.......becoming friends with one of her co-writers, Jimmy Page, watching her perform on "Ready, Steady, Go!", and going on several stops of the Beatles' promo tour for "Beatles For Sale". Jackie and I never dated...........but we hung out a lot. I was devastated when a misunderstanding [too minute to remember] threatened our relationship. We hadn't spoken in a month........ then the day after I had open heart surgery, back in N.Y., she called me from a recording studio to see how I was. She had the engineer play the backing track she was working on ..... and sang "What The World Needs Now Is Love" to me over the phone. I can't tell you how much that meant to me......but I actually made medical history by walking around 36 hours after my operation!! regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:34:49 -0400 From: James Cassidy Subject: Orbisonian tunes I heartily concur with the thumbs-up given to Gene Pitney's "It's Over"/"It's Over"; the two songs work amazingly well together and Gene sounds great on it. Gene has several other songs that fit the Orbisonian mold (subdued, sparse, baritone intro building to operatic, sturm-und-drang high tenor climax), my favorite of which is Mann-Weil's "I'm Gonna Be Strong." It also mines the same vein of self-pity. What's brilliant about "I'm Gonna Be Strong" is that the singer wallows in self-pity while boldly declaring that he's going to "take it like a man." Jim Cassidy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:09:59 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: The "real" Roy Orbison song Hi, I realize we are talking about Roy soundalikes, but this talk brings up a thought of a song I only found about 15 years after he recorded it. I bought his MGM Celebrity Series 45s box set at a thrift store or somewhere cheap in the 80s. One 45 side I had never heard and I thought it was one of the best war (?) songs I'd ever heard. "There Won't Be Many Coming Home" seemed to be a timeless song that I played on my radio show when it was warranted and I still think it is a perfect description of war. Not to mention Roy's always perfect sad rendition. Later I found it was on the "Fastest Guitar Alive" movie soundtrack in which Roy tried to go the movie star route. When I taped the movie a few years ago, I did not hear this song in it--maybe it was in the background of one of the scenes? It should have been more prevalent in the movie, that's fer sure! Maybe it was too sad? Anyway, I really think this is a great overlooked song by Roy. Take care, Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:15:38 -0500 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Feelin' No Pain A couple of weeks ago I submitted a request here for a dub of The Del Satins' "Feelin' No Pain," a Dion-written (and, I believe, produced) track the title and provenance of which had intrigued me for some time, but a copy of which had equally eluded me. Since then David Young, aka "spectorcollector," has come through big time, not only providing a dub of what turns out to be at least as great a cut as I'd hoped, but also allowing me to play it to musica for all to hear. Seek and ye shall find. Enjoy, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:23:24 EDT From: Bill George Subject: Re: Lisa Hartman Brad Burg writes: > Bill. I was always puzzled that even after becoming a TV > star, Lisa didn't go on to do much music; she has quite a > voice. And then, after marrying Clint Black, she still > didn't record, until they had that duet hit. Brad, after seeing Lisa interviewed on TV, it seems she really lost faith and confidence in her music (or at least in her place in the music industry.) Even with her fame as an actress, her musical career never took off. She even resisted recording with Clint because she thought it would jinx his career! This is too bad, as she really has a great voice. If you speak to her, please tell her she has fans out here who would love to hear her record again. With her recent success on the country charts, she could do something in the vein of Faith Hill and might be very successful, with both pop and country fans. - Bill PS. Thanks for the compliments on the JDSAS website! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:20:28 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Beyond the Trees/Sanusky's Monk/Ron Britain/Brelyn/Crescendos Hi, I was wondering about a few songs and thought someone out there might have some answers to my queries. In 1968 (7?), I taped off WKYC in Cleveland, a song that I think was called "Beyond the Trees" and the DJ sounded like he said it was by Sandusky's Monk. Not sure about either the title or artist, but considering Sandusky is a city in Ohio, maybe there was such a group?? Any ideas out there? Another song I am wondering about is Cleveland/Chicago DJ Ron Britain's "Are You Going To Wail, Tulus?". Anyone ever heard this? Another is Bobby Brelyn. His 45 "Hanna" on Jorel is fairly easy to find, but I am trying to locate another 45 he had, "Yes You Do" on Jorel 5133. Anyone have it or know anything about Bobby Brelyn? Another Chicago 45 I am wondering about is "Countdown to Ecstasy" by the Crescendos (no, not THOSE Crescendos). Any one have/ heard of this 45? Thanks for any info on these artists!! Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:39:26 -0700 From: Jeffrey Glenn Subject: Re: Girl Group Question Ed: > I thank anyone who can help with this. I've been looking for > this song for many years. I've just played the 2 of Clubs version of "Walk Tall" to musica. Ed didn't say where he's from, but this is the only version of the song that charted in the U.S. Great track, and written by Vance/Pockriss! Jeff -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:45:15 EDT From: David Bell Subject: Roy Orbison/Lovin' Man And I have a recording of "Lovin' Man" by Miss Connie Francis, which she recorded for her UA album in 1978, after her Greatest Hits package hit #1 in Britain's album charts in 1977. It's not that great if I'm honest. Happy days! Best wishes, David. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 22:50:21 +0100 From: Andrew Hickey Subject: Re: Brian Wilson's NYC concert Country Paul wrote: > Haven't caught up with the last 3 days of dispatches, but > I'm compelled to report - glowingly - on tonight's > apparently sold-out Brian Wilson concert at the Beacon > Theatre. In a phrase, it was a treat! That's odd - the general consensus has been that the band were underrehearsed, and that Darian Sahanaja was sorely missed. > The Wondermints (with a substitute keyboardist, who was > top-shelf) The keyboardist was Gary Griffin, formerly of the Bel-Air Bandits, who has worked with Foskett, the Beach Boys and Jan & Dean. He comes from the surf music scene and presumably knows the earlier stuff better, hence the hits emphasis for these shows... > he sat behind a Yamaha keyboard with two monitors with the > lyrics, never touching the keyboard except to lean on it. Even on Surfer Girl? > Melt Away (do I have this title right?) Yes, from his eponymous 1988 album, and also the "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times" soundtrack > [Jeff Foskett introduced the band - wish I could remember > names] Gary Griffin - substitute keyboard Probyn Gregory - guitar, tannerin, trumpet etc Paul Mertens - woodwinds Mike D'Amico - percussion Taylor Mills - backing vocals Nick 'Nicky Wonder' Walusko - guitar Scott Bennet - keyboards & percussion Bob Lizik - bass Jim Hines - drums > Friends (with a brief intro I couldn't identify) That will be "Meant For You" - the opening track from the "Friends" album -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:12:28 -0500 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Graduation Day Doc Rock wrote: > Premier version: Rover Boys, 1956 > Cover Version: Four Freshmen > Then 1963 - Bobby Picket. > 1967 - Arbors. > And many non-hit versions. This song always seemed to have been tailor-made to be a perennial -- a new "Happy Birthday," as it were. Yet I've never heard it sung at any graduation (nor graduation party) that I've ever attended, and I wonder if it's ever caught on to any degree in that realm. Maybe it's just too hard for ordinary singers to tackle. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:28:17 +0100 From: Andrew Hickey Subject: Re: Brian Wilson in NY Mike Edwards: > Looking at the song titles, I was surprised to see so many > of the Beach Boys pop tunes included. Somehow reading about > Brian in Spectropop led me to think that he had moved onto > other things and regarded the Beach Boys early output as > inconsequential, leaving them to be performed live by the > two other Beach Boys road units. That is the case to an extent - for a setlist from last year (a gig I attended) see http://members.tripod.com/~fun_fun_fun/6-12-02.html But for this mini-tour Darian Sahanaja, the band's musical director, had other commitments, and the band had little or no rehearsal with his stand-in Gary Griffin. Griffin comes from the surf-pop side of things, so he knows that material better, plus it's easier to play. Also Brian's US sets tend to lean a lot more towards the hits, while in the UK the sets tend to be longer and contain more rarities. But the fact that his next big planned tour is the Smile tour, with a planned 35 minute suite of Smile material, should show you what direction the shows are going in. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:08:21 EDT From: David Bell Subject: Re: Maxine Brown Ken Silverwood asked: > Did she do "Torture"? Did she do "One In A Million"? Yes, she did both of those songs at Cleethorpes. Ooh, the memories already! David. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:31:56 -0000 From: Rob Subject: Roy soundalikes Hi everybody, How about Johnny Crawford's "Proud." A good song with a definite Big O sound. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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