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Spectropop - Digest Number 922

               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re:  Dr. Wilson - It's About Time!
           From: Mikey 
      2. Standing in the Shadows of Motown
           From: Mike Edwards 
      3. Dr. Wilson
           From: James Cassidy 
      4. Re: Dr Wilson's Graduation Day
           From: Bob Hanes 
      5. Party togs
           From: Bill George 
      6. Re: Sweetie Baby...
           From: Bill George 
      7. Roy Orbison project
           From: Mike Edwards 
      8. Re: Lisa Hartman
           From: Bill George 
      9. Jackie De Shannon
           From: Bill George 
     10. Bob B. Soxx and the Blue Jeans pics
           From: Charles Sheen 
     11. Re: Roy-like suggestion/Canaries on Dimension
           From: Scott 
     12. Re: Roy-like
           From: Bill Craig 
     13. Re: Graduation Day
           From: Andrew 
     14. A Great Day In Harlem
           From: Steve Harvey 
     15. Re: Gene Pitney "It's Over" medley
           From: Andrew 
     16. Brian Wilson's NYC concert
           From: Country Paul 
     17. Pic of Charlotte O'Hara
           From: Rex Strother 
     18. Re: Roy Orbison
           From: Simon White 
     19. Re: Roy-like
           From: Peter Lerner 
     20. Re: Roy-like
           From: Alan V. Karr 
     21. Re: Roy-like
           From: John Henderson 
     22. Re: Alternate Coasters
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     23. Re: Fake Merseybeat
           From: Andres 
     24. Midnight Joey
           From: Michael Gessner 
     25. Lead Singer of The Butterflys?
           From: Stuffed Animal 


Message: 1
   Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:18:27 -0400
   From: Mikey 
Subject: Re:  Dr. Wilson - It's About Time!

Steve Harvey:
> However, wasn't "Graduation Day" the Lettermen, not the
> Beach Boys?

Jimmy B:
> Mine's is by Bobby "Boris" Pickett among others!

Well, "Graduation Day" was a hit for The Four Freshmen, but 
it WAS recorded by BOTH The Lettermen and The Beach Boys.  
It's on the Beach Boys famous Live LP.


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Message: 2 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:57:13 -0400 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Standing in the Shadows of Motown Rashkovsky remarks: > (Standing in the Shadows of Motown) plays in Britain before > it plays in North Carolina--what a life. It is out here on DVD and VHS but not in Britain, I believe. is listing the DVD starting @ $12.97 - cheaper than two movie theater tickets, even in Raleigh. That party that Rik Williams was talking up looks a real blast, though. Too bad we don't have anything like it in New York. Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:49:29 -0400 From: James Cassidy Subject: Dr. Wilson Phil Milstein, sorry I didn't think ahead to hook up with you at the Brian Wilson show. Your review was on the money. Small corrections: "Graduation Day" was written by the Sherman brothers and recorded originally by the Four Freshman, Brian's fave vocal group; and the instrumental was "Pet Sounds," not "Let's Go Away..." Jim Cassidy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:46:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Hanes Subject: Re: Dr Wilson's Graduation Day The song "Graduation Day" came to the Wilsonian one through his harmony heroes, The Four Freshman. Who knows how many vocal groups recorded it? The Right Reverend Bob, dumb angel chapel, Church of the Harmonic Overdub -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:13:40 EDT From: Bill George Subject: Party togs I'm looking forward to meeting many of you on Friday. There may be nametags I think. But one way you can recognize me is by my T-shirt. I'm planning to wear a shirt featuring the lovely Jackie DeShannon. (Some of you know me as the publisher of the "Jackie" newsletter for the Jackie DeShannon Appreciation Society). So please introduce yourselves to me. I'm rather shy :) - Bill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:20:25 EDT From: Bill George Subject: Re: Sweetie Baby... Amber writes: > Sweetie, Honey, Baby, Lamb..... That reminds me... has anyone here ever read a trashy novel titled "Sweetie Baby Cookie Honey?" I can't recall the author. It is obviously based (inaccurately) on Bette Midler, Neil Sedaka, and Elton John. Very trashy, and a good summer read. I don't know if it's still in print, but you can probably find it on ebay for about a penny. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:37:00 -0400 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Roy Orbison project Great subject for a home CD, Phil. Hope it's as good as your last one. The Bobby Rydell b-side you featured with Bobby talking about his trip to the UK for a recording session in '63 got the whole Tony Hatch thing started here at Spectropop. Some tunes you might like to consider for this CD: Jay Black - Running Scared, Atlantic 1975 Jay & The Americans - Crying (UA) 1966 Gene Thomas - Baby's Gone (UA) 1963 Written by Roy Orbison/ Bobby Goldsboro David Box - If You Can't Say Something Nice (Candix) 1962 Written by Roy Orbison-Joe Melson-Ray Rush Velvets - Spring Fever (Monument) 1961 Written by Roy Orbison Velvets - Lana/Laugh (Monument) 1961. Both sides written by Roy Orbison-Joe Melson Joe Melson - Barbara (Hickory) 1960 Written by Roy Orbison/ Joe Melson Probably anything in the 60s from Bobby Goldsboro, Gene Thomas, Ray Rush and Joe Melson qualifies for inclusion. Joe Melson "collaborated with Roy Orbison as a songwriter until 1961, then parted under a cloud. Even Roy admitted the fame wasn't divided equally" (The Drugstore's Rockin' Vol. 1). Good luck with the project, Phil Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:40:40 EDT From: Bill George Subject: Re: Lisa Hartman Brad Burg wrote: > I was a songwriter friend of Dene at the time—and became > the 3rd co-writer on the album, which can be listened to > online ( Thanks for the great link, Brad! Now when is Lisa going to record a new album!? - Bill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:44:06 EDT From: Bill George Subject: Jackie De Shannon Artie Wayne wrote: > Bill........How ya' doin'? I'm really happy that Rhino > released Jackie DeShannon's 1972 is one of her > best! I gave her Van Morrison's "I wanna' roo you" and put > her together with him to co-write. I'm glad their three songs > were finally released. Hi Artie, Well, I guess we Jackie fans owe you a big thanks! Her work with Van is excellent. I wish I could have seen them perform together. They seem like they would have been kindred spirits at that time. Too bad the rumoured duets album never materialized. Any other stories about them to tell? - Bill (serial posting tonight) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 02:45:34 -0000 From: Charles Sheen Subject: Bob B. Soxx and the Blue Jeans pics Hey everyone, sorry I haven't posted anything in a while, I've been real busy with school and all, anyways we just found a box of photos and other stuff from the Blue Jeans' early days, most of which are from New York,(I think you'll like the Apollo photos). I will post them as soon as I get back home. I'm still looking for some of my dad's Liberty stuff so if you guys know where I can get these two songs please contact me asap "Seven Million People" and "I'm Talking 'bout My Baby" Both were acetates. "Seven Million..." was on a Columbia/ Screen Gems disc, about the size of a 78 but was a 45. I'm sure I won't find this one, 'cause on the top of the label it said BAD RECORD! "Talking 'bout My..." was in the same format and sounded incomplete, maybe playing about 65 secs). Dad said he recorded "Seven Million People" before the Blue Jeans were formed so around '61, and "I'm Talking 'bout My Baby" in '63. Hope all is well with everyone Rock on Charles Sheen -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:55:23 -0500 From: Scott Subject: Re: Roy-like suggestion/Canaries on Dimension Hi Phil, My suggestion for the Roy-like compilation would be Dusty Springfield's "I Can't Make It Alone" from "Dusty in Memphis." Take a listen and see if you agree. Now my question-- I asked it a few months back and heard nothing. Does anyone know anything about the group The Canaries that recorded one single on Dimension records at the end of the 60s? Cheers! Scott in Houston -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 03:20:47 -0000 From: Bill Craig Subject: Re: Roy-like Phil, This is a record I haven't heard in years but I would think that Dave Berry's "The Crying Game" would qualify. Bill Craig -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:57:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Subject: Re: Graduation Day "Graduation Day" was first by the Four Freshmen, and later by the Vogues; if the Lettermen recorded it, I don't know about it. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:13:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: A Great Day In Harlem Just saw the above movie tonight outside at the Clifford Brown Jazz Festival in Wilmington, DE. It deals with a famous 1958 picture of all the famous jazz artists who showed up for the picture. They were told to show, no money involved, if they wanted to have their picture taken. It's amazing how many appeared. Seems like a good idea for the Spectropop party. Get a groupshot shot of the rock and roll braintrust at the party for posterity. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:18:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Subject: Re: Gene Pitney "It's Over" medley Concerning Gene Pitney's "It's Over"/"It's Over" medley: Years ago, the Gene Pitney Fan Club (I was once a member) put out a cassette called "The Epic Sessions," which included Gene's three 1977 Epic singles (one of which was the aforementioned "It's Over") plus four unreleased tracks, including a remake of the Gatlin Brothers' country/pop hit "Broken Lady." It's really too bad Epic didn't put any effort into promoting Gene while he was there - he still had his chops, and could've been a real money-maker for them if they'd handled him right. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:39:41 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: Brian Wilson's NYC concert Haven't caught up with the last 3 days of dispatches, but I'm compelled to report - glowingly - on tonight's apparently sold-out Brian Wilson concert at the Beacon Theatre. In a phrase, it was a treat! The Wondermints (with a substitute keyboardist, who was top-shelf) were augmented to a total of 11 pieces (including a female back-up singer and, of course, Brian). As has been the case for the past two shows I saw, he sat behind a Yamaha keyboard with two monitors with the lyrics, never touching the keyboard except to lean on it. However, he hit all his high notes and let Jeff Foskett do the serious falsetto parts - which he executed perfectly. Brian was also somewhat more animated tonight, raising his hands to "conduct" the band or punctuate a lyric several times, and even nailing down a half-smile or two; but once again, his voice was fully smiling and we could feel his happiness in being there. The first few songs sounded as though they were adjusting levels, and the band seemed to be working their way through them, but a few songs into the set they caught fire, and the entire second set was completely ablaze. The music was sort of The Beach Boys' Best Hits - many of the greatest, but some very cool tracks added. Here's the set list, with a few relevant comments: Set One: - Catch A Wave (a cool song to start with) - Dance Dance Dance - You're So Good To Me - In My Room (beautiful as always) - California Girls (Brian announced it as "the best Beach Boys record") - Keep An Eye On Summer (always a fave - by this point things were groovin') - Little Deuce Coupe - Sail On Sailor - Your Imagination (nicely done, but it points up the richness of the harmonic progressions on his most creative earlier work, like...) - Don't Worry Baby - Hawaii (what a left-field delight!) - Row Row Row Your Boat (seemingly an off-the-cuff move to get the crowd singing a round with him, but then he cut it off quickly) - Melt Away (do I have this title right?) - Wouldn't It Be Nice? (it WAS nice) - God Only Knows (possibly MY favorite) - Good Timin' (worked very well live) - Pet Sounds (Brian turned, faced the band, and got off on the energized playing) intermission Set Two: - [Jeff Foskett introduced the band - wish I could remember names] - Help Me Rhonda (rocked!) - Darlin' - Friends (with a brief intro I couldn't identify) - Please Let Me Wonder (beautiful acapella ending - this is another personal fave) - Do It Again (the whole house was on its feet spontaneously, dancing) - Sloop John B - Add Some Music To Your Day - Marcella (Brian announced it as "our favorite tune"; they really "cooked it well") - Good Vibrations "Encore" set (planned, of course): - Surfer Girl (you could feel the love in the entire theatre) - I Get Around (segue into...) - Barbara Ann (Brian played bass on this; so did the regular bassist. Segue into...) - Surfin' USA - Fun Fun Fun "Second encore": - Love and Mercy I could think of a couple of dozen songs I would have added, but nothing I would have deleted. Thank you, Brian, thank you, band. Brian mentioned from the stage the "Smile" tour in the UK next year, and that there was a new album coming with various guest artists, including Elton John. To all the folks on the list to whom I owe calls - tomorrow! Meanwhile, hope to see many of you in New York Friday night - should be great fun! Love and mercy, Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:31:34 -0600 From: Rex Strother Subject: Pic of Charlotte O'Hara Can someone supply with a large, hi-res scan of Charlotte O'Hara (Matheny) for the Al Hazan website I'm working on ( It is to accompany some text about her recording of his song "Daydreams". Of course, this request is meant for off-list response. Appreciate it! Rex Strother -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:49:04 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Roy Orbison Not sure if this counts but I have a 45 answer record to "Pretty Woman" called "Lovin' Man" in a more country syle, but with the same beat. I can't remember the artiste so I'll have to dig it out. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:42:39 +0100 From: Peter Lerner Subject: Re: Roy-like Anything by the Mavericks. Particularly that slow ballad that they did. Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:58:29 -0000 From: Alan V. Karr Subject: Re: Roy-like Phil Milstein: > I have been toying with the idea of putting together a new > compilation album....the concept would be > "recordings heavily influenced by Roy Orbison." Well, don't have time to look up the catalog #s right now but they're all reissued on CD.... Soundalikes: David Box's version of "No One Will Ever Know" - best version in my opinion of this country classic - B side, 1964 of "Little Lonely Summer Girl" - best known for being an Buddy Holly acolyte and briefly a Cricket this late great unheralded talent (who sadly died in a plane crash) at the time of release was under Roy's wing CD- UK Rollercoaster Blue Rondos' "Little Baby" - UK Pye, 1964 - sadly failed to chart - much anthologized Meek RGM prod. - NOT Jimmy Page - group evolved into prog-rockers Home. CD-UK Castle/Sequel Influenced: Johnny Tillotson's "Without You" - US Cadence, 1961 - from the strings to the backing dum-dum-dum-dums, definitely a Roy-influenced tune. His greatest hit IMO Also: his later B-side Judy Judy Judy, featured in the 1963 UK film "JUST FOR FUN" CD- US Varese, UK Ace (Ace has Judy...) Regards, Alan V. Karr -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:42:21 -0000 From: John Henderson Subject: Re: Roy-like Phil, FYI there's a great "Roy Orbison Songbook" CD from "Connoisseur Collection" 2/3 Fitzroy Mews, London W1P 5DQ. Catalogue # VSOP CD 215. This contains covers from the Waylon Jennings tune you mention of "The Crowd" to "It's Over" by Glen Campbell, "Claudette" by the Everly Bros, "Crying" by Don Mclean, "You've Got Love" by Buddy Holly, "Uptown" by Robert Gordon, "In Dreams" by Tom Jones, "Down the Line" by The Hollies, "Blue Bayou" by Slim Whitman and other tracks featuring Bobby Vee, Bertie Higgins, Del Shannon, Kitty Wells!!!, Al Green, Johnny Cash, The Velvets, Bonnie Tyler, Engelbert Humperdinck and Connie Francis. Not on the above mentioned CD but another interesting cover, from the movie Mullholland Drive, is "Llornado" (sp?) by Rebekah Del Rio. This is a Spanish version of "Crying" that simply soars, particularly in the accapella version. Gene Pitney does a great job on "Crying," while Jay Black has admitted publicly that his recording with the Americans fell far short of the classic Orbison. Almost any tune based on Ravel's Bolero sounds like "Running Scared" to me but there's a country tune by Dwight Yoakam, "Fast As You," that makes an interesting mix with "Oh Pretty Woman." John -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:52:04 +0100 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re: Alternate Coasters David Coyle wrote: > Here's looking forward to a new Coasters compilation. > The last available US disc besides the budget "Very > Best Of The Coasters" disc was a 2-CD set called "50 > Coastin' Classics," which was probably passable in the > early '90s. "50 Coasting Classics" (Also a Rhino production) was way more than passable and for me, Rhino will really have to go some to better it this time 'round. It included half a disc of Robins stuff, a great booklet and a couple of post -Atlantic tracks licensed from Sony. It also included one unreleased track - an excellent Leiber/Stoller demo of "Shake 'Em Up And Let 'Em Roll" which was also recorded, but not released, by the Monkees. Thinking about it, it's highly likely that the new set will be just a revamp of this one. > I wish I could have found Sequel's expanded edition of > their original "Greatest Hits" album, but all I managed to > snare was the "Coastin' With The Coasters" reissue... Sequel reissued four albums in all and with the extra tracks they just about wrapped up everything the Coasters did on Atlantic. They're all worth getting if you can find them - some of the later singles, while not quite up there with the classics, are great fun. "Bull Tick Waltz" and "The PTA" are two of my personal favourites. Let's hope someone gets round to doing a similar series - a collection of all the tracks recorded as the Robins would be pretty essential too. Regards, Guy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:24:21 -0000 From: Andres Subject: Re: Fake Merseybeat Antonio Vizcarra asked: > Are there any other American groups who pretended to be > from England and that tried to cash in on the Merseybeat > craze that swept America in 1964? Any bands recommended? I found a very interesting site: Alas, only the "Please Please Me" section is completed but it's great! Andres -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:56:00 -0400 From: Michael Gessner Subject: Midnight Joey Can someone help me with this? A friend of mine asks, "1963.. answer song to 'Midnight Mary'. Is the Lorna Dune title '(Meet you at) Midnight Joey' or just 'Midnight Joey'?" I emailed Artie Wayne (who wrote the thing). He's aware of it but never heard it. But he did tell me that Lorna Dune was in reality Lorna Wright, Gary (Dreamweaver) Wright's sister. It was on Select Records (they DID have the Glencoves on the label). Can someone help or post it to musica. Thanks a lot. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:31:45 +0000 From: Stuffed Animal Subject: Lead Singer of The Butterflys? Listening over and over to my copies of The Butterflys' "Goodnight, Baby" and "I Wonder," the lead singer on these records sounds to my ears like a very husky Sylvia Peterson. Sure enough, one of the girls in the Butterflys' publicity photo resembles Sylvia! Now, I'm not saying that I believe it's her....but could it be? Or did The Chiffons' Sylvia have a sister who sang? Stuff -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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