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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Roy-like
From: Phil Milstein
2. Re: In My Tenement
From: Simon White
3. Re: Midnight Mary
From: Artie Wayne
4. Hit it Maceo
From: Steve Harvey
5. Standing in the Shadows of Motown
From: Rik Williams
6. Dr. Wilson
From: Phil Milstein
7. Jill and the Boulevards
From: William Boot
8. B. Brock and the Sultans
From: Andres
9. Re: Archies videos on Ron Dante Online
From: Clark Besch
10. Re: Midnight Mary/Castaways
From: Clark Besch
11. Re: Dileo / Zekley/Giorgio
From: Clark Besch
12. Re: Sanders Studios
From: Mikey
13. Re: Jill and the Boulevards
From: Phil Milstein
14. Re: Jill and the Boulevards
From: Chris King
15. Re: Standing in the Shadows of Motown
From: Mike Rashkow
16. Jill & the Boulevards/Roy Orbison/Bob Dileo
From: Ian Chapman
17. NYC Party
From: Joe
18. Sue Thompson radio interview is tonight (Monday)
From: Ronnie Allen
19. Dr. Wilson - It's About Time!
From: Steve Harvey
20. Re: Roy-like
From: Nick Archer
21. Re: Roy-like
From: Steve Harvey
22. Re: Sanders Studios
From: Mike Rashkow
23. Viva Las Vegas 2003 Review Now Online!
From: Larry Shell
24. Jill & the Boulevards
From: William Boot
25. Re: Sanders Studios
From: Mikey
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:05:02 -0400
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Roy-like
I have been toying with the idea of putting together a new
compilation album, but would need your help to come up with
enough tracks to make it worthwhile. The concept would be
"recordings heavily influenced by Roy Orbison." Entries in
this category I've documented so far are:
Conway Twitty: "It's Only Make Believe"
Del Shannon: "Keep Searching", "Stranger In Town"
Waylon Jennings: "Love Denied"; "The Crowd"
I'm sure there are many others. A description of the sound I
have in mind would read "songs in medium or slow tempo, of
extremely melodramatic theme and construction, and coming to
a grand crescendo at or near the end." Obviously, few singers
were up to the challenge, and I wonder if the owners of such
fine voices as Dion or Gene Pitney, or perhaps even some female
singers, ever gave the Orbison sound a shot. There's no need to
document whether or not the performer had Roy specifically in
mind when cutting the tracks, only that hearing them conjures
thoughts of the great Orbison.
Thanks for your help,
--Phil Milstein
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:34:07 +0100
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: In My Tenement
James Botticelli wrote:
> Another version! I also have one on Sue by Jackie Shane...
> great great song. It also popped up by someone else (Rosy
> Grier maybe?) on a Kent UK soul compilation in the 80s of
> 60s material. Maybe I'll bring the 45 to play at the party.
It's on the exellent Kent CD "New York Soul Serenade."
Originally an album track, it was released as a 45 in the UK
on Horace's 002 in the 90s. The CD also contains, amongst
other great tracks, the essential "I'm Stepping Out Of The
Picture" by Johnny Maestro & the Crests and Ed Bruce's "I'm
Gonna Have A Party," both of which are worth the price of
entry alone.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 15:48:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Midnight Mary
Mikey.....
I knew there was a Sanders recording studio on 48th St., but
I never used it. Whenever I did a demo, I used Associated
Recording or Allegro studios.
regards,
Artie Wayne
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:15:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Hit it Maceo
Paul Urbahns wrote:
> I have been researching and creating a discography of the
> Hit Records label (and associated labels) from Nashville.
Just found the strangest Hit record. Some guy singing
"You Don't Own Me", formerly done by Ms. Gore.
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:37:06 -0000
From: Rik Williams
Subject: Standing in the Shadows of Motown
Hi Everyone,
On Sunday 20th July 2003 the film "Standing in the Shadows of
Motown" is being premiered in Hebden Bridge in the North West
of England, with Motown discos before and after.
3.00pm - 05 .30pm Motown Connoisseurs Disco with top guest Motown
Collector DJs.
6.00pm - 07 .45pm "Standing in the Shadows of Motown" film.
8.00pm - 10.30pm Sixties Soul Special Disco with DJs Richard
Searling, Ginger Taylor, Terry Davies, Andy Rix, Rik Williams
and Roman.
Tickets are £6 (all day).
Full details at http://www.chatbusters.com/events/sitsom.htm
Rik
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 22:54:05 -0400
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Dr. Wilson
Now showing in the photos section is a great shot of Brian Wilson
receiving his first-ever honorary doctorate degree, granted by
the School of Music at Boston's Northeastern University.
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/
(it's the first item on page 2)
The ceremony took place Saturday afternoon and included Brian,
joined by members of his band, appropriately singing his own
"Graduation Day". Later that evening Brian and the band performed
a free outdoors concert at Boston's Hatch Shell, where they offered
a fabulous and well-paced repertoire of both Wilson classics and
obscurities ("Marcella"! "Let's Go Away For Awhile"!). The band was
slick, Brian (taking Mike Love's parts, mostly) was anything but,
and everyone had a blast. For the encore Brian was introduced, after
a mention of the ceremonies earlier in the day, as "Dr. Wilson", and
the first song of the encore was a reprise of "Graduation Day".
Enjoy the photo,
--Phil M.
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:17:59 -0000
From: William Boot
Subject: Jill and the Boulevards
Hello - I hope you'll forgive a newbie if this is off-topic,
but I'm looking for information on a band (guess we called them
groups back then) called Jill and the Boulevards.
They had one 45 released, in UK at any rate: "And Now I Cry"/
"Eugene" (Columbia DB 4823) in 1962. I owned this record, briefly,
before someone stole it at a party, and it haunted me for years -
a strange, ethereal sound which in my head sounded a bit like
Jefferson Airplane's "Somebody to Love" 5 years ahead of time.
I've now got hold of another copy, and my memory hasn't played
me tricks - it's an amazing record. I've no idea whether they
were Brits or Americans, and I'm very curious to know more about
them. Can anybody help?
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:39:41 -0000
From: Andres
Subject: B. Brock and the Sultans
Stephen Braitman once wrote:
> One of my favorites is B. Brock & The Sultans, with an
> album on Crown in 1964 called, what else, "Do The Beetle."
> Incredibly cheesy cover of a pimple-faced "high school" group.
Check the photos section, there's a new pic on page 2:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:40:29 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Archies videos on Ron Dante Online
Laura Pinto wrote:
> What memories! The first time I ever saw Ron on TV was in
> September of 1971 when he appeared on the Larry Kane Show
> out of Houston...... When you can, please check out my site,
> "Laura's Ron Dante Fan Pages." It complements Ron's site
> nicely; he has mostly audio and video, and I have mostly
> photos, links, and Ron's concert itinerary.
> http://lpintop.tripod.com/laurasrondantefanpages/
> I audiotaped Ron's appearance on Larry Kane, but I played
> the tape so much I finally wore it out... I'd love to hear
> it again. I also wish they'd had VCR's back then!
Laura, quite a nice site! Altho' I am not so interested in
all his pics :), you have a lot of info on there! "Itsy Bitsy"
was one of my older brother's first 45s and one of my first was
the Detergents! Always loved the lyrics! Ron will likely always
be one of the biggest unknown stars of our era. I agree that I
wish too I woulda had a VCR back in the 60s! At least I still
have my reel to reels.
Wonder where all the Larry Kane show tapes are today? Many of
the local rock dance shows would be cool to see today.
Take care, Clark
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:52:04 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Midnight Mary/Castaways
Artie Wayne:
> By the way, I'm still waiting for my second top ten hit
> as a producer.
Artie, glad to hear you haven't lost your sense of humor!
Now, can anyone post the Tim Wilde song to musica for a listen?
PS. Sorry David Coyle, you are right. It's like when "Wheel
of Fortune" has the 2 phrases in one answer: "Lavender Popcorn
Double Feature"!!! Sorry 'bout that! I got confused 'cause I
knew the Castaways had a song that was also a UK song on a comp
CD I had. I shoulda known better with Castaways, since I helped
with that Plum CD.
I agree there were some songs on there that were not great, but
it had the Dunwich songs (at the risk of being wrong again, I
believe "Lavender Popcorn" was one of those?) and "Sam" and
"Goodbye Babe" make it worth it. The updated "Liar Liar" song
is kinda interesting too--and that cover! Is that the 'real'
"Gilligan's Island" Steve Wilson (producer)?? Working with Steve
Wilson was always great. I think he is back at K-Tel these days??
If anyone knows, please let me know.
Take care, Clark
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:06:23 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Dileo / Zekley/Giorgio
Jeffrey Glenn wrote:
> Clark: Actually Lee Mallory - as most of you know - was a
> member of The Millennium, and "Take My Hand" - actually
> written by Dick & Don Addrisi - is a pre-Millennium Lee
> Mallory solo single (Valiant V-761 from 1967, and the
> definitive version, produced by Curt Boettcher). The versions
> by The Montanas and The Avengers are covers. And though
> Mallory didn't actually write "Take My Hand," he's written
> or cowritten lots of great songs!
>
> As for any of the Dileo/Giant Jellybean Copout stuff being
> issued in stereo, I don't think we'll be seeing that anytime
> soon.:-( I'd be happy with an issue of the stuff from an
> actual master tape!
Jeff, sorry for the egg on my face! That's what I get for
writing things I think I knew about! I love the Millennium
stuff, but did not realize Mallory was a member. I just remember
having the 45 on Valiant.
Michel wrote:
> Maybe the original of "I Just Can't Help Believin'" was by
> Wayne Newton (MGM 14014) who released it at the end of 1968.
> I know Bobby Vee's interpretation on his "Gates, Grills &
> Railings" album, at the beginning of 1969. Do you know who
> produced Bob Dileo's one (May 1969)?
Michel, cool, didn't know about these versions. That Bobby Vee
LP is better known that its sales would show. Doesn't it have
"Someone To Love"? Cool song. Anyway, thanks everyone for the
Bob Dileo info. Sure wish a stereo DJ copy of "Band In Boston"
shows up! At the risk of starting a new thread (who cares?),
super producer Giorgio had a cool similar song to "Band in Boston"
in 1970. "Stop" on Atco has cool phasing and a style like Dileo's.
I really liked it a lot. It was also a 45 on London (Parrot?),
but much different and not as good. Also, like Dileo's "Copout"
45, Giorgio did a Beach Boys-like Atco 45 "Looky Looky" which was
great too. A #2 record in Wichita, Ks. in '70 or '71. "Moody
Trudy" not bad either. Of course, "Son Of My Father" is just great!
Too bad he didn't keep that stuff up.
Take care, Clark
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:12:39 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Sanders Studios
Artie Wayne wrote:
> I knew there was a Sanders recording studio on 48th St.,
> but I never used it. Whenever I did a demo, I used
> Associated Recording or Allegro studios.
Thank you Artie!!
The reason I asked was that , just by chance, I wandered into
Sanders Recording during the last week they were open. I was
about 17 at the time. Old man Sanders talked to me for like 2
hours about all the artists that had made demos there. I even
got to play the drum set. I wonder what hits were made on
that drum set!! I'm sure a few of those hundreds of demos
were dressed up a bit and released as masters. "Just One
Look" by Doris Troy was a demo that was released as a master.
Mikey
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:48:52 -0500
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Jill and the Boulevards
William Boot wrote:
> Hello - I hope you'll forgive a newbie if this is off-topic,
> but I'm looking for information on a band (guess we called them
> groups back then) called Jill and the Boulevards.
See http://mysite.freeserve.com/hofner/earlybands/band6.html
for their fascinating story: beat out The Beatles for a Columbia
contract, recorded with Joe Meek, etc.
--Phil M.
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:56:31 +0100
From: Chris King
Subject: Re: Jill and the Boulevards
William - Check this out!
http://mysite.freeserve.com/hofner/earlybands/band6.html
Regards,
Chris,
Da Doo Ron Ron
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:57:13 EDT
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: Standing in the Shadows of Motown
Rik writes:
> On Sunday 20th July 2003 the film "Standing in the Shadows of
> Motown" is being premiered in Hebden Bridge in the North West
> of England, with Motown discos before and after.
It plays in Britain before it plays in North Carolina--what a life.
Rashkovsky
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:42:50 +0100
From: Ian Chapman
Subject: Jill & the Boulevards/Roy Orbison/Bob Dileo
William Boot wrote:
> Hello - I hope you'll forgive a newbie if this is off-topic,
> but I'm looking for information on a band called Jill and
> the Boulevards.
Jill & the Boulevards? Most definitely on-topic, William!
A clean CD copy of "And Now I Cry" is available on the fab 60s
Brit-girl RPM comp, "Dream Babes Vol. 2: Reflections." The
liner notes include a different pic of the group to that on the
URL that Phil and Chris gave us.
Phil, a couple more Roy-like suggestions for you:
Any version of "I Could Have Loved You So Well", although my
favourite and perhaps the most Orbisonesque, is from 1966 by
Chance Eden on Roulette. Wonderful.
The most overt attempt at the Orbison sound from a female
artist must surely be "Nightfall" by Sherry Grooms - a
Bernadette Peters soundalike, she has it down pat, right to
the crescendo at the end. It's to be found on the flipside
of her northern soul biggie "Take Away The Memories (Of A
Love So Fine)" on ABC, also from '66.
BTW, UK members who get the Performance channel should look
out for the Roy Orbison special that runs every now and then,
featuring many full-length archive performances, including the
promo of "Oh Pretty Woman" as used on Top of the Pops and a
fantastic original colour promo of the Big O in the studio
cutting "Walk On".
Finally, to Michel, the label credits of Bob Dileo's "Just
Can't Help Believin'"/"Mind Excursion" double-sider are thus:
Arranged by Pete Dino, produced by Jimmy Wisner and strings
are credited to John Hill.
Ian
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:51:15 EDT
From: Joe
Subject: NYC Party
Hi!
Re - Spectropop NYC Party.
What is the date and location? Please advise.
Best Regards,
- Joe
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FROM THE ADMIN TEAM:
All the relevant regarding the upcoming bash can still be found at:
http://www.chachacharming.com/
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 01:09:41 EDT
From: Ronnie Allen
Subject: Sue Thompson radio interview is tonight (Monday)
Thanks to all of you have have sent me private e-mails about
the one-hour live-by-phone show I'll be doing TONIGHT (Monday
June 16th) with Sue Thompson.
She will be talking to me from SOMEWHERE IN NEVADA. I won't
reveal the location until this evening but I'll simply say it
may inspire a drum roll!
Sue is of course the recording artist with that unique "little
child" voice who had all those great hits in the 60s including
"Sad Movies (Make Me Cry)" and "Norman" and "James (Hold The
Ladder Steady)" and "Have A Good Time" and "Paper Tiger"!
My interview show will be LIVE as noted above so that means I
have to be on-my-toes for a full-hour. And of course, since there
are no retakes it means that it will be spontaneous, possibly
with a few UNPLANNED surprises! LOL
Nevertheless I LOVE doing live shows and I know this one will be
a special treat for me since I've been a fan of hers for so many
years.
If you have a question you'd like me to ask Sue during our live
broadcast please e-mail it to me in advance of the show at
RonnieOldiesGuy@aol.com. Time permitting, I'll try to squeeze a
few of them in with acknowledgments to the persons who submit
them.
Tonight's interview show will be from 8 PM to 9 PM Eastern Time
and will originate on station WBCB (1490-AM Fairless Hills, PA)
and be simultaneously broadcast on the World Wide Web.
To access the show please use: http://www.wbcb1490.com
The above address is the WBCB Home Page.
When it has loaded, look on the upper-left-hand side of the page
and find the "Listen Live" link. Double-click on that and then
follow the very simple instructions. (Yes they ARE very simple:
you will be a double-click away from the show!).
You can "try out" the station in advance of the show by using the
above instructions. The station has a mix of talk, sports, and
oldies so you might get any one of those formats if you access
the station prior to the Sue Thompson show.
If you have not yet listened to my recent "Diane Renay And Friends"
and/or my Murmaids show and would like to do so you can access
either one of them from the above WBCB home page. Simply find the
appropriate link(s) (most likely they will appear as BLUE in your
browser) and click away!
I hope many of you can listen to tonight's Sue Thompson show and
I certainly will be most grateful for your feedback.
By the way ..... coming up NEXT week (Monday June 23rd) will be my
one hour live-by-phone interview show with a man who was basically
a very Happy-Go-Lucky guy even though "Fred" was sitting in the back
seat with all those girls!
Ronnie Allen
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:00:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Dr. Wilson - It's About Time!
Phil M.:
> The ceremony took place Saturday afternoon and included Brian,
> joined by members of his band, appropriately singing his own
> "Graduation Day".
If there is any American rocker that deserves an honorary degree
in music it has to be the Hawthorne Hotshot.
However, wasn't "Graduation Day" the Lettermen, not the Beach Boys?
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:16:07 -0500
From: Nick Archer
Subject: Re: Roy-like
Phil Milstein:
> I have been toying with the idea of putting together a new
> compilation album, but would need your help to come up with
> enough tracks to make it worthwhile. The concept would be
> "recordings heavily influenced by Roy Orbison."
I have a mid-70s Epic single of Gene Pitney doing a medley
of "It's Over"/"It's Over". Meets all of your criteria. I can
play it to musica tomorrow.
Nick Archer
"It's Over" is also in rotation on Nashville's classic SM95 on
the web at http://www.live365.com/stations/nikarcher
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:30:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Re: Roy-like
The Beatles' "Please Please Me" pre-Martin version was very
Orbisonish until George Martin changed it around.
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:30:57 EDT
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: Sanders Studios
> Sanders recording studio on 48th St.,....
That place was a joke.
Allegro, hmmm. "It's Your Thing" was done there with Tony
May on the knobs. Rod McBrien also worked there, won the
American Song Writing Contest once. The only thing was you
had to wait for the subway to pass under sometimes.
You know, Artie, we have met.
Rashkovsky
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:56:06 -0400
From: Larry Shell
Subject: Viva Las Vegas 2003 Review Now Online!
Excuse the off topic post but my review of the Viva Las Vegas
2003 Rockabilly Weekender is now online at the Rockabilly Hall
of Fame website.
You can read it all by clicking on the below link:
http://www.rockabillyhall.com/LarryShellVLV6.html
Enjoy!
Larry
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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:33:59 -0000
From: William Boot
Subject: Jill & the Boulevards
Thanks guys - pretty mind-blowing to get all this information
in one day after wondering for 40+ years! Spectropop is my kind
of group, I think...
WB
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:45:43 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Sanders Studios
Rashkovsky:
> That place was a joke.
Rash, please tell me about Sanders Recording Studio!!!
Mikey
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