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Spectropop - Digest Number 920



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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Roy-like
           From: Phil Milstein 
      2. Re: In My Tenement
           From: Simon White 
      3. Re: Midnight Mary
           From: Artie Wayne 
      4. Hit it Maceo
           From: Steve Harvey 
      5. Standing in the Shadows of Motown
           From: Rik Williams 
      6. Dr. Wilson
           From: Phil Milstein 
      7. Jill and the Boulevards
           From: William Boot 
      8. B. Brock and the Sultans
           From: Andres 
      9. Re: Archies videos on Ron Dante Online
           From: Clark Besch 
     10. Re: Midnight Mary/Castaways
           From: Clark Besch 
     11. Re: Dileo / Zekley/Giorgio
           From: Clark Besch 
     12. Re: Sanders Studios
           From: Mikey 
     13. Re: Jill and the Boulevards
           From: Phil Milstein 
     14. Re: Jill and the Boulevards
           From: Chris King 
     15. Re: Standing in the Shadows of Motown
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     16. Jill & the Boulevards/Roy Orbison/Bob Dileo
           From: Ian Chapman 
     17. NYC Party
           From: Joe 
     18. Sue Thompson radio interview is tonight (Monday)
           From: Ronnie Allen 
     19. Dr. Wilson - It's About Time!
           From: Steve Harvey 
     20. Re: Roy-like
           From: Nick Archer 
     21. Re: Roy-like
           From: Steve Harvey 
     22. Re: Sanders Studios
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     23. Viva Las Vegas 2003 Review Now Online!
           From: Larry Shell 
     24. Jill & the Boulevards
           From: William Boot 
     25. Re: Sanders Studios
           From: Mikey 


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Message: 1
   Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:05:02 -0400
   From: Phil Milstein 
Subject: Roy-like

I have been toying with the idea of putting together a new 
compilation album, but would need your help to come up with 
enough tracks to make it worthwhile. The concept would be 
"recordings heavily influenced by Roy Orbison." Entries in 
this category I've documented so far are:

Conway Twitty: "It's Only Make Believe"
Del Shannon: "Keep Searching", "Stranger In Town"
Waylon Jennings: "Love Denied"; "The Crowd"

I'm sure there are many others. A description of the sound I 
have in mind would read "songs in medium or slow tempo, of 
extremely melodramatic theme and construction, and coming to 
a grand crescendo at or near the end." Obviously, few singers 
were up to the challenge, and I wonder if the owners of such 
fine voices as Dion or Gene Pitney, or perhaps even some female 
singers, ever gave the Orbison sound a shot. There's no need to 
document whether or not the performer had Roy specifically in 
mind when cutting the tracks, only that hearing them conjures 
thoughts of the great Orbison.

Thanks for your help,
--Phil Milstein



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Message: 2 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:34:07 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Re: In My Tenement James Botticelli wrote: > Another version! I also have one on Sue by Jackie Shane... > great great song. It also popped up by someone else (Rosy > Grier maybe?) on a Kent UK soul compilation in the 80s of > 60s material. Maybe I'll bring the 45 to play at the party. It's on the exellent Kent CD "New York Soul Serenade." Originally an album track, it was released as a 45 in the UK on Horace's 002 in the 90s. The CD also contains, amongst other great tracks, the essential "I'm Stepping Out Of The Picture" by Johnny Maestro & the Crests and Ed Bruce's "I'm Gonna Have A Party," both of which are worth the price of entry alone. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 15:48:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Midnight Mary Mikey..... I knew there was a Sanders recording studio on 48th St., but I never used it. Whenever I did a demo, I used Associated Recording or Allegro studios. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:15:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Hit it Maceo Paul Urbahns wrote: > I have been researching and creating a discography of the > Hit Records label (and associated labels) from Nashville. Just found the strangest Hit record. Some guy singing "You Don't Own Me", formerly done by Ms. Gore. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:37:06 -0000 From: Rik Williams Subject: Standing in the Shadows of Motown Hi Everyone, On Sunday 20th July 2003 the film "Standing in the Shadows of Motown" is being premiered in Hebden Bridge in the North West of England, with Motown discos before and after. 3.00pm - 05 .30pm Motown Connoisseurs Disco with top guest Motown Collector DJs. 6.00pm - 07 .45pm "Standing in the Shadows of Motown" film. 8.00pm - 10.30pm Sixties Soul Special Disco with DJs Richard Searling, Ginger Taylor, Terry Davies, Andy Rix, Rik Williams and Roman. Tickets are 6 (all day). Full details at http://www.chatbusters.com/events/sitsom.htm Rik -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 22:54:05 -0400 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Dr. Wilson Now showing in the photos section is a great shot of Brian Wilson receiving his first-ever honorary doctorate degree, granted by the School of Music at Boston's Northeastern University. http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/ (it's the first item on page 2) The ceremony took place Saturday afternoon and included Brian, joined by members of his band, appropriately singing his own "Graduation Day". Later that evening Brian and the band performed a free outdoors concert at Boston's Hatch Shell, where they offered a fabulous and well-paced repertoire of both Wilson classics and obscurities ("Marcella"! "Let's Go Away For Awhile"!). The band was slick, Brian (taking Mike Love's parts, mostly) was anything but, and everyone had a blast. For the encore Brian was introduced, after a mention of the ceremonies earlier in the day, as "Dr. Wilson", and the first song of the encore was a reprise of "Graduation Day". Enjoy the photo, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:17:59 -0000 From: William Boot Subject: Jill and the Boulevards Hello - I hope you'll forgive a newbie if this is off-topic, but I'm looking for information on a band (guess we called them groups back then) called Jill and the Boulevards. They had one 45 released, in UK at any rate: "And Now I Cry"/ "Eugene" (Columbia DB 4823) in 1962. I owned this record, briefly, before someone stole it at a party, and it haunted me for years - a strange, ethereal sound which in my head sounded a bit like Jefferson Airplane's "Somebody to Love" 5 years ahead of time. I've now got hold of another copy, and my memory hasn't played me tricks - it's an amazing record. I've no idea whether they were Brits or Americans, and I'm very curious to know more about them. Can anybody help? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:39:41 -0000 From: Andres Subject: B. Brock and the Sultans Stephen Braitman once wrote: > One of my favorites is B. Brock & The Sultans, with an > album on Crown in 1964 called, what else, "Do The Beetle." > Incredibly cheesy cover of a pimple-faced "high school" group. Check the photos section, there's a new pic on page 2: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:40:29 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: Archies videos on Ron Dante Online Laura Pinto wrote: > What memories! The first time I ever saw Ron on TV was in > September of 1971 when he appeared on the Larry Kane Show > out of Houston...... When you can, please check out my site, > "Laura's Ron Dante Fan Pages." It complements Ron's site > nicely; he has mostly audio and video, and I have mostly > photos, links, and Ron's concert itinerary. > http://lpintop.tripod.com/laurasrondantefanpages/ > I audiotaped Ron's appearance on Larry Kane, but I played > the tape so much I finally wore it out... I'd love to hear > it again. I also wish they'd had VCR's back then! Laura, quite a nice site! Altho' I am not so interested in all his pics :), you have a lot of info on there! "Itsy Bitsy" was one of my older brother's first 45s and one of my first was the Detergents! Always loved the lyrics! Ron will likely always be one of the biggest unknown stars of our era. I agree that I wish too I woulda had a VCR back in the 60s! At least I still have my reel to reels. Wonder where all the Larry Kane show tapes are today? Many of the local rock dance shows would be cool to see today. Take care, Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:52:04 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: Midnight Mary/Castaways Artie Wayne: > By the way, I'm still waiting for my second top ten hit > as a producer. Artie, glad to hear you haven't lost your sense of humor! Now, can anyone post the Tim Wilde song to musica for a listen? PS. Sorry David Coyle, you are right. It's like when "Wheel of Fortune" has the 2 phrases in one answer: "Lavender Popcorn Double Feature"!!! Sorry 'bout that! I got confused 'cause I knew the Castaways had a song that was also a UK song on a comp CD I had. I shoulda known better with Castaways, since I helped with that Plum CD. I agree there were some songs on there that were not great, but it had the Dunwich songs (at the risk of being wrong again, I believe "Lavender Popcorn" was one of those?) and "Sam" and "Goodbye Babe" make it worth it. The updated "Liar Liar" song is kinda interesting too--and that cover! Is that the 'real' "Gilligan's Island" Steve Wilson (producer)?? Working with Steve Wilson was always great. I think he is back at K-Tel these days?? If anyone knows, please let me know. Take care, Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:06:23 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: Dileo / Zekley/Giorgio Jeffrey Glenn wrote: > Clark: Actually Lee Mallory - as most of you know - was a > member of The Millennium, and "Take My Hand" - actually > written by Dick & Don Addrisi - is a pre-Millennium Lee > Mallory solo single (Valiant V-761 from 1967, and the > definitive version, produced by Curt Boettcher). The versions > by The Montanas and The Avengers are covers. And though > Mallory didn't actually write "Take My Hand," he's written > or cowritten lots of great songs! > > As for any of the Dileo/Giant Jellybean Copout stuff being > issued in stereo, I don't think we'll be seeing that anytime > soon.:-( I'd be happy with an issue of the stuff from an > actual master tape! Jeff, sorry for the egg on my face! That's what I get for writing things I think I knew about! I love the Millennium stuff, but did not realize Mallory was a member. I just remember having the 45 on Valiant. Michel wrote: > Maybe the original of "I Just Can't Help Believin'" was by > Wayne Newton (MGM 14014) who released it at the end of 1968. > I know Bobby Vee's interpretation on his "Gates, Grills & > Railings" album, at the beginning of 1969. Do you know who > produced Bob Dileo's one (May 1969)? Michel, cool, didn't know about these versions. That Bobby Vee LP is better known that its sales would show. Doesn't it have "Someone To Love"? Cool song. Anyway, thanks everyone for the Bob Dileo info. Sure wish a stereo DJ copy of "Band In Boston" shows up! At the risk of starting a new thread (who cares?), super producer Giorgio had a cool similar song to "Band in Boston" in 1970. "Stop" on Atco has cool phasing and a style like Dileo's. I really liked it a lot. It was also a 45 on London (Parrot?), but much different and not as good. Also, like Dileo's "Copout" 45, Giorgio did a Beach Boys-like Atco 45 "Looky Looky" which was great too. A #2 record in Wichita, Ks. in '70 or '71. "Moody Trudy" not bad either. Of course, "Son Of My Father" is just great! Too bad he didn't keep that stuff up. Take care, Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:12:39 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Sanders Studios Artie Wayne wrote: > I knew there was a Sanders recording studio on 48th St., > but I never used it. Whenever I did a demo, I used > Associated Recording or Allegro studios. Thank you Artie!! The reason I asked was that , just by chance, I wandered into Sanders Recording during the last week they were open. I was about 17 at the time. Old man Sanders talked to me for like 2 hours about all the artists that had made demos there. I even got to play the drum set. I wonder what hits were made on that drum set!! I'm sure a few of those hundreds of demos were dressed up a bit and released as masters. "Just One Look" by Doris Troy was a demo that was released as a master. Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:48:52 -0500 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Jill and the Boulevards William Boot wrote: > Hello - I hope you'll forgive a newbie if this is off-topic, > but I'm looking for information on a band (guess we called them > groups back then) called Jill and the Boulevards. See http://mysite.freeserve.com/hofner/earlybands/band6.html for their fascinating story: beat out The Beatles for a Columbia contract, recorded with Joe Meek, etc. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:56:31 +0100 From: Chris King Subject: Re: Jill and the Boulevards William - Check this out! http://mysite.freeserve.com/hofner/earlybands/band6.html Regards, Chris, Da Doo Ron Ron -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:57:13 EDT From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Standing in the Shadows of Motown Rik writes: > On Sunday 20th July 2003 the film "Standing in the Shadows of > Motown" is being premiered in Hebden Bridge in the North West > of England, with Motown discos before and after. It plays in Britain before it plays in North Carolina--what a life. Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:42:50 +0100 From: Ian Chapman Subject: Jill & the Boulevards/Roy Orbison/Bob Dileo William Boot wrote: > Hello - I hope you'll forgive a newbie if this is off-topic, > but I'm looking for information on a band called Jill and > the Boulevards. Jill & the Boulevards? Most definitely on-topic, William! A clean CD copy of "And Now I Cry" is available on the fab 60s Brit-girl RPM comp, "Dream Babes Vol. 2: Reflections." The liner notes include a different pic of the group to that on the URL that Phil and Chris gave us. Phil, a couple more Roy-like suggestions for you: Any version of "I Could Have Loved You So Well", although my favourite and perhaps the most Orbisonesque, is from 1966 by Chance Eden on Roulette. Wonderful. The most overt attempt at the Orbison sound from a female artist must surely be "Nightfall" by Sherry Grooms - a Bernadette Peters soundalike, she has it down pat, right to the crescendo at the end. It's to be found on the flipside of her northern soul biggie "Take Away The Memories (Of A Love So Fine)" on ABC, also from '66. BTW, UK members who get the Performance channel should look out for the Roy Orbison special that runs every now and then, featuring many full-length archive performances, including the promo of "Oh Pretty Woman" as used on Top of the Pops and a fantastic original colour promo of the Big O in the studio cutting "Walk On". Finally, to Michel, the label credits of Bob Dileo's "Just Can't Help Believin'"/"Mind Excursion" double-sider are thus: Arranged by Pete Dino, produced by Jimmy Wisner and strings are credited to John Hill. Ian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:51:15 EDT From: Joe Subject: NYC Party Hi! Re - Spectropop NYC Party. What is the date and location? Please advise. Best Regards, - Joe ===================================================== FROM THE ADMIN TEAM: All the relevant regarding the upcoming bash can still be found at: http://www.chachacharming.com/ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 01:09:41 EDT From: Ronnie Allen Subject: Sue Thompson radio interview is tonight (Monday) Thanks to all of you have have sent me private e-mails about the one-hour live-by-phone show I'll be doing TONIGHT (Monday June 16th) with Sue Thompson. She will be talking to me from SOMEWHERE IN NEVADA. I won't reveal the location until this evening but I'll simply say it may inspire a drum roll! Sue is of course the recording artist with that unique "little child" voice who had all those great hits in the 60s including "Sad Movies (Make Me Cry)" and "Norman" and "James (Hold The Ladder Steady)" and "Have A Good Time" and "Paper Tiger"! My interview show will be LIVE as noted above so that means I have to be on-my-toes for a full-hour. And of course, since there are no retakes it means that it will be spontaneous, possibly with a few UNPLANNED surprises! LOL Nevertheless I LOVE doing live shows and I know this one will be a special treat for me since I've been a fan of hers for so many years. If you have a question you'd like me to ask Sue during our live broadcast please e-mail it to me in advance of the show at RonnieOldiesGuy@aol.com. Time permitting, I'll try to squeeze a few of them in with acknowledgments to the persons who submit them. Tonight's interview show will be from 8 PM to 9 PM Eastern Time and will originate on station WBCB (1490-AM Fairless Hills, PA) and be simultaneously broadcast on the World Wide Web. To access the show please use: http://www.wbcb1490.com The above address is the WBCB Home Page. When it has loaded, look on the upper-left-hand side of the page and find the "Listen Live" link. Double-click on that and then follow the very simple instructions. (Yes they ARE very simple: you will be a double-click away from the show!). You can "try out" the station in advance of the show by using the above instructions. The station has a mix of talk, sports, and oldies so you might get any one of those formats if you access the station prior to the Sue Thompson show. If you have not yet listened to my recent "Diane Renay And Friends" and/or my Murmaids show and would like to do so you can access either one of them from the above WBCB home page. Simply find the appropriate link(s) (most likely they will appear as BLUE in your browser) and click away! I hope many of you can listen to tonight's Sue Thompson show and I certainly will be most grateful for your feedback. By the way ..... coming up NEXT week (Monday June 23rd) will be my one hour live-by-phone interview show with a man who was basically a very Happy-Go-Lucky guy even though "Fred" was sitting in the back seat with all those girls! Ronnie Allen -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:00:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Dr. Wilson - It's About Time! Phil M.: > The ceremony took place Saturday afternoon and included Brian, > joined by members of his band, appropriately singing his own > "Graduation Day". If there is any American rocker that deserves an honorary degree in music it has to be the Hawthorne Hotshot. However, wasn't "Graduation Day" the Lettermen, not the Beach Boys? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:16:07 -0500 From: Nick Archer Subject: Re: Roy-like Phil Milstein: > I have been toying with the idea of putting together a new > compilation album, but would need your help to come up with > enough tracks to make it worthwhile. The concept would be > "recordings heavily influenced by Roy Orbison." I have a mid-70s Epic single of Gene Pitney doing a medley of "It's Over"/"It's Over". Meets all of your criteria. I can play it to musica tomorrow. Nick Archer "It's Over" is also in rotation on Nashville's classic SM95 on the web at http://www.live365.com/stations/nikarcher -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:30:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Roy-like The Beatles' "Please Please Me" pre-Martin version was very Orbisonish until George Martin changed it around. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:30:57 EDT From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Sanders Studios > Sanders recording studio on 48th St.,.... That place was a joke. Allegro, hmmm. "It's Your Thing" was done there with Tony May on the knobs. Rod McBrien also worked there, won the American Song Writing Contest once. The only thing was you had to wait for the subway to pass under sometimes. You know, Artie, we have met. Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:56:06 -0400 From: Larry Shell Subject: Viva Las Vegas 2003 Review Now Online! Excuse the off topic post but my review of the Viva Las Vegas 2003 Rockabilly Weekender is now online at the Rockabilly Hall of Fame website. You can read it all by clicking on the below link: http://www.rockabillyhall.com/LarryShellVLV6.html Enjoy! Larry -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:33:59 -0000 From: William Boot Subject: Jill & the Boulevards Thanks guys - pretty mind-blowing to get all this information in one day after wondering for 40+ years! Spectropop is my kind of group, I think... WB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:45:43 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Sanders Studios Rashkovsky: > That place was a joke. Rash, please tell me about Sanders Recording Studio!!! Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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