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There are 16 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Al Casey; Coasters; Lost 60's; Lee & Wilson
           From: Country Paul 
      2. In the red corner is Brian and in the blue corner Frankie Valli
           From: Stuart Miller 
      3. New Rhino Handmade CD of Jackie De Shannon's 1972 album "Jackie"
           From: David Parkinson 
      4. Re: The Robbs
           From: Patrick Rands 
      5. Re: various
           From: Country Paul 
      6. Re: Tony Hatch
           From: Bette 
      7. The Robbs
           From: Simon White 
      8. Re: Button up
           From: James Botticelli 
      9. Re: Goffin/King - how many songs have they written?
           From: Mike Carter 
     10. Rainy Daze:  Phil Spector Connection
           From: mcg 
     11. Darlene Love - Stumble And Fall - Philles
           From: Sebastian Fonzeus 
     12. Some Radio to listen to
           From: Steven Fromm 
     13. Re: The Critters
           From: Chris Ullman 
     14. Chris Clark Interview!!!
           From: Stephanie 
     15. re: B. Mitchell Reid
           From: Justin McDevitt 
     16. The Metropolitan Soul Show on Soul 24-7.com
           From: Simon White 


Message: 1
   Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 13:41:02 -0400
   From: Country Paul 
Subject: Al Casey; Coasters; Lost 60's; Lee & Wilson

Bob Rashkow:
> Of course Al Casey was on Chicago's STACY label....

"Jivin' Around" was on Stacy, too, and released before 
"Surfin' Hootenanny". It's just that the sound of the two 
is so different that I was momentarily confused. (Maybe it 
comes with age!!?!!) Phil Milstein, thanks for the Al Casey 
CD update; glad he's supporting Lee Hazlewood, even if the 
output isn't required listening.

Credit Where Due Dept.: The "anonymous" updater I cited in my 
last comment was John Henderson; taking the liberty of passing 
along what he wrote: "Al is very much alive. He and Sanford 
Clark are/were playing a gig recently at an aboriginal casino 
in Wisoncin I believe."  John, would that have been last summer's 
big rockabilly blowout, or something more recent?

Tom Taber:
> ...a budget Coasters LP, I believe on the Clarion label, for 
> 50 cents! I no longer have it, but as I recall, it had some 
> real stereo cuts, and a least a couple were alternate takes.

Clarion was Atlantic-Atco's short-lived in-house budget label, 
so the Coasters on that album were most likely the "real" ones.

Mike Edwards:
> ...try amazon.com and use their dealer feeds to get a price
> break....there's "Lost 60s Recordings" featuring Rick Nelson 
> and Glen Campbell for $13.43...

I just ordered it. More West Coast "fascinating phantoms." A
listener/reviewer on Amazon notes that Rick Nelson is just 
playing bass in a group behind primarily Jerry Fuller and Dave 
Burgess, so it doesn't look like a new treasure trove of Nelson 
artifacts. But the sound snippets sounded worthwhile.

Mark M. Smith:
> I saw Arthur Lee last year and he was indeed fantastic and in 
> great voice. Wonderful band (Baby Lemonade) and mini orchestra 
> too. A very different experience than the Brian Wilson shows I saw.

First, does anyone know when and if Arthur Lee and Love are coming 
to the New York area? Who is in the band these days - any originals? 
Second, I'll post a note with my impressions after Brian Wilson's 
performance in NYC 6/16. As I've noted before, yes, he's not jumping 
around much, but the last two times I saw him he was very much present, 
involved, leading the band, and his voice was smiling even if his face 

Country Paul
(smiling broadly toward 6/20 in NYC)

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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 13:59:52 +0100 From: Stuart Miller Subject: In the red corner is Brian and in the blue corner Frankie Valli This debate about Brian Wilson and New Jersey has to be one of the funniest threads I've seen on this board, in a very understated way. It's like a Pinter play with everyone talking at each other but not to each other. Some are trying to defend the honour of Jersey, some are extolling the merits of surfing in the sewage off the east coast and yet others are sending in posts with Brian's name in the header and no mention of him in the text. And now we have someone trying to initiate World War 3 between the two coasts. Country Paul - I can't buy it. He may have filled one venue in Jersey but when you consider the multiple consecutive dates he's done at the same venues elsewhere world wide, it still looks a bit weak. But....this phenomenon worked both ways. Whilst the 4 Seasons did gig out west, California could hardly be called their stronghold either and they would sometimes go for years without getting out there. Even now, when I scan the list of gigs that Valli is doing currently, Vegas is the closest he gets. And Sean, nice try but I have to tell you that both groups only ever had nice things to say about each other. If Gaudio ever intended anything with "No Surfin'" back then, he certainly can't remember it now. And of course one should not forget that both groups came together in the 70s to record, oddly enough, "East Meets West" on FBI. An OK record but a wasted opportunity to utilise the vocal talents of both bands. But I'm right with you if you can get a war going. Over here in the UK it's London versus the rest with everyone outside the capital thinking Londoners are just a big bunch of soft southern jessies whilst Londoners themselves don't seem to think life exists beyond the big car park in the sky they call the M25. As someone born in London who fled when he was 21 and has spent the last 29 years happily ensconced "up north", I cannot understand why anyone, claiming sound mental health, would want to live in that City. It's like banging your head constantly against a brick wall and the pain only stops when you leave the place. And the last time I went down? To see Brian at the Festival Hall. Stuart -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 10:37:48 -0700 From: David Parkinson Subject: New Rhino Handmade CD of Jackie De Shannon's 1972 album "Jackie" (DISCLAIMER: I do not shill for Rhino, but I've bought some of these Handmade CDs in the past and been very satisfied. This one sounds very worth acquiring.) Here's the link: http://www.rhinohandmade.com/browse/ProductLink.lasso?Number=x32 And here's the promo text: By the time Jackie DeShannon signed to Atlantic in 1972, she'd already built a multi-dimensional career. She entered the business as a child gospel singer with her own radio show; she rocked under the tutelage of Eddie Cochran; she opened for The Beatles on their first U.S. Tour; she even earned her way into the vaunted Burt Bacharach-Hal David stable. But what she desired at this point was creative freedom. Instead of singing over elaborately arranged tracks, she wanted to be a part of the process -- to work with a band, as it were. Jackie would be the culmination of just such a vision. So DeShannon and Atlantic's Jerry Wexler entered the legendary American Sound Studios in Memphis -- home to many of the area's renowned session cats -- and embarked upon an album project that would be part DeShannon originals and part interpretations of songs with which she had an artistic affinity. Chosen works included Neil Young's "Only Love Can Break Your Heart," Van Morrison's "I Wanna Roo You," John Prine's "Paradise," and a song Wexler called "one of the greatest songs ever written," Alice Stuart's "Full Time Woman." The originals find DeShannon really spreading her wings. "Laid Back Days" is a six-minute departure from the rigid structure of pop songwriting. "Vanilla O'Lay," which reached #76 on the singles chart, features a steel-drum band, and "Anna Karina" offers a groovy free-form reflection on the French New Wave actress. This remastered Rhino Handmade release presents Jackie in its entirety. It also gathers 12 bonus tracks (10 previously unreleased) from DeShannon's two-year stint with Atlantic. Included are four 1973 collaborations with Van Morrison and the unearthed gospel gem "Through The Gates Of Gold." Jackie made a brief appearance on the album chart, but it's more significant as a bold artistic statement and critical triumph. DeShannon is very proud to this day: "They're extremely respectable recordings. And for a woman at that time, it was quite a feat to cover that kind of ground musically....If you can't be honest, then what's the point?" Jackie... Plus is available as an individually numbered limited edition of 2,500 copies. David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 16:32:22 -0000 From: Patrick Rands Subject: Re: The Robbs Clark Besch wrote: > Patrick, sounds like a great show! "Cynthia Loves" was actually > given even billing on WRIT Milwaukee with "A" side "Rapid Transit", > their admirable "Western Union" ripoff. A great "TSW" (two-sided > winner), as WLS' Dex Card used to call 'em. Unfortunately, I work > nights, so will miss your show. Will you tape it for me? :) I am > trying to put a best of CDR together of these guys. Wish some label > would get all their stuff together for release. They have a lot of > unreleased material as well as alternate versions of released songs > as well as all those cover songs done for "Where the Action Is". > Then, there's Dee Robb solo and the Cherokee sides........ Have a > great show. Hi Clark, Thanks for the comments. I could go on all day about why The Robbs never had any huge hits (someone stop me! ouch!). The radio show will in essence be a best of, but also include some of the early sides as well as some Cherokee and rarities to round out the show. It's all got to fit in an hour, so it can't have everything - though I will play the entire LP. The radio shows are typically archived online a few days after the broadcast here: http://zbconline.com/tp-archive.php Though the guy who archives the shows is unemployed right now, so sometimes he's got somethinh else going on (I'll be sure to bug him though!). There are many other shows I've done stored in this archive, check them out as well. Just note that only 3 listeners at a time can listen to the archives at once. I hope someday to do a 60s girl group gems part two segment :) I'm really hoping some label decides to reissue the Robbs music. Maybe this radio show will perk up somebody's ears to just how great they are and step up to the plate. :Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 15:15:37 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: Re: various Mike Edwards, thanks for the Tony Hatch review: http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/index.htm#TonyHatch I never realized how omnipresent his music was. Richard Havers, are there any Aerovon's sound samples posted that we can check out? It's quite the rave review! Martin Roberts, this "US cousin" never heard the 1974 Priscilla Paris version of "I Love How You Love Me" before. It's interesting how close but how different it is; she seems to have consciously flattened the pronunciation of her R's - perhaps for the UK market? Was this a hit among our "UK cousins"? Billy G Spradlin: > What singles did finally break the Beach Boys on the east coast? New York discovered The Beach Boys immediately post-Candix. It really started with "Surfin' Safari" on Capitol, which was a major event on New York and New England Top 40 stations; I even remember "Ten Little Indians" (with picture sleeve) in a feature display at our local record store in New Rochelle, NY, as well as getting some airplay. It looked as though that was going to be their "sophomore slump" record until "Surfin' USA" and "In My Room" really nailed it; >From then, their 45's were "automatically" on the radio out of the box. I asked: > there was also a song called "Jivin' Around" by the Al Casey > Combo on Stacy. This, I believe was a different Al Casey - it > seems like a black ensemble from Chicago. Anyone know anything > authoritative about this? Someone else mentioned a different Al Casey record, also on Stacy. So, was it the same Al Casey? Help, anyone? And I acciddentally deleted an off-list response to my "Is Al Casey still alive and playing?" question; the answer was a resounding "Yes!" -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 21:10:17 -0000 From: Bette Subject: Re: Tony Hatch Hi Mikey and everyone. I'm Bette of http://BetBytes.com and I'm new here and I wanted to say hello. Mikey, you can find the Tony Hatch CD at Amazon.com. SMILES Bette -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 00:29:48 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: The Robbs I'm not familiar with The Robbs other than one 45 - "I Don't Wanna Discuss It" which I possess on Atlantic records for no other reason than it was also recorded by the King of Rock and Roll, Little Richard for Okeh. I also have a version by The Instigations on T-Bird records and to my horror have just discovered that Rod Stewart recorded it too. But I have always wondered at the history of this song. Who recorded it first? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 20:39:56 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Button up Steve Harvey wrote: > How about "Back To" buttons with a blank space for names? what if we draw a blank when asked our names? ;-) Mark Frumento wrote: > how does one throw this kind of party for an $8.00 cover charge? I'm venturing that $12 will get you a glass of Merlot/Chardonnay and it's upwards from there. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 01:28:32 -0000 From: Mike Carter Subject: Re: Goffin/King - how many songs have they written? Kurt wrote: > I'm in the midst of doing research for my Master's and I'm at > a standstill. I'm in desperate need of a complete list of songs > written by Goffin and King. > > I've found several online lists...but.... Kurt, --Spectropop's page of Carole songs ain't bad...but....it ain't good... --Ages ago a publication by Mitchell Cohen appeared with a list that ain't bad...but...it ain't good... --Ode Visuals produced several lists in Carole King song books during her Tapestry heyday, but never credited the correct lyricists to many of the songs... --Published by Greenwood Press in 1999 by James E. Perone is a book entitled "Carole King A Bio-Bibliography". A good list, not accurate, but much better than the above. --"Bob's Page Of Carole King", on-line, has a decent list, perhaps copied from BMI and ASCAP? I don't think it seperates King's work from Goffin's, though. --Carole King's 'official' website lists a discography page with one listing: coming soon. That's a great help. Does Goffin have a website? Hmmmm, I don't know. Daughter Louise does, wonder if she could/would help? Can any list ever be complete? Songs such as "Don't Count Your Chickens" aren't listed anywhere that I can find, but there the song is on the Ellie Greenwich "Be My Baby" compilation as sung by Carole King herself, credited to those famous songwriters: unknown. Carole and Gerry still write together. A recent tune appeared on the soundtrack to "The Wedding Planner" entitled "Somewhere My Baby Waits For Me". (Now there's one that's a melodic ripoff. Carole and Gerry were surely listening to The Ronettes sing "Be My Baby" when they wrote this one!) And perhaps Carole and Gerry are writting as we speak...King is reportedly in the recording studio recording for her upcoming album. A couple more G/K tunes added to the 300+ (you say?) would do just fine! Good luck! Mike C. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 06:47:40 -0000 From: mcg Subject: Rainy Daze: Phil Spector Connection I have an album by a psychedelic '60s group called the Rainy Daze. They were based out of Colorado, and had a national hit with "Acapulco Gold" in '67 or '68. The group moved to LA and one of the band's songwriters also co-wrote "Incense and Peppermints." I read somewhere on the Net that Phil Spector had an interest in producing them and may (or may not) have recorded them at some point. Is this true? Has anyone else ever heard of Phil almost signing the Rainy Daze? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 11:52:28 +0200 From: Sebastian Fonzeus Subject: Darlene Love - Stumble And Fall - Philles Hi! I recently managed to get ahold of a DJ copy of Darlene Love's "Stumble And Fall" b/w "He's A Quiet Guy" on Philles. I know that this record was withdrawn and the catalogue number (123) was replaced with a Ronettes 45. Has anyone of you got any idea of why it was decided not to release this fine piece of music? How many copies of this 45 actually made it's way to radio stations or record stores? Is it just the issue copies that are really hard to find? Mine is a yellow/red DJ copy. There is some water damage to the label but the record plays excellent. "Stumble And Fall" is one of my all-time favourite tracks and I've been looking for this 45 for a long time. After having lost one at $3 a couple of years ago on a US list, it was extremely nice to finally find another one at a reasonable price. I'm well chuffed! :) Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Take care! Sebastian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 10:05:12 -0000 From: Steven Fromm Subject: Some Radio to listen to Are you guys in the USA aware that some of the best quality radio shows made in the UK can be heard via the net. The good old BBC has an excellent web site and complete shows, playlists (etc) can all be easily downloaded. The guy to listen out for is MARK LAMARR. His show "Shake Rattle & Roll" is off air until early AUGUST but is a "MUST". He is currently broadcasting a series on the history of Reggae which should be available via the web soon. In the meantime check out the the more "commercial" shows - Suzi Quatro (yes, that Suzi Quatro) and Brian Matthews (the same DJ back in the early 60s). If anyone knows of anything better please let me know! I keep asking for requests but no one comes up with the goods! Just check out the playlists BUT do keep tabs on Mark Lamarr's shows. The guy is witty, knowledgeable and really into 50s/60s music. The Reggae show was great - lots of Ska and Rock Steady. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/quatro http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/sounds60s -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 12:20:35 -0000 From: Chris Ullman Subject: Re: The Critters via James Botticelli: > For the experts among us...Any and all info on The Critters would > be most helpful... > Ciccione was drafted, band without him continued with 2 albums on > Project 3.This would be same time as Free Design records. Maybe > someone on your sunshine pop list knows about these. Ok I'm no expert, only having the Critters Japanese import CD, however I have access to a couple of resources which reveal more about their Project 3 stuff..number one the Borderline books Fuzz Acid and Flowers, http://www.borderlinebooks.com/us6070s/fuzz.html or http://www.spectropop.com/60s70sbeatpsyche.htm which reports the following discography (Project 3 stuff only): ALBUMS: (B) TOUCH AND GO WITH THE CRITTERS (Project 3 PB 4001) 1968 (C) THE CRITTERS (Project 3 PB 4002) 1969 SINGLES: 10 Good Morning Sunshine/A Moment Of Being With You (Project 3 1326) 1967 11 Touch'n'Go/Younger Generation (Project 3 1332) 1968 12 Cool Sunday Morning/Lisa But Not The Same (Project 3 1349) 1968 13 I Just Want To Sit Right Here And Look At You/ She Said She Loved Him (Project 3 1363) 1969 And a Bob Stanley small piece on Touch and Go in Mojo June 2002: "They scored a couple of hits in 1966 (a heartbreaking cover of John sebastian's Younger girl and with their own Mr Dieingly Sad) and cut a great album on Kapp, but then half the group were conscripted. Most biogs dismiss this, their second album, presumably because the writers haven't heard it. The title track is aural Tizer, tough-yet- soft powerpop while a moment of being with you is a meltingly melancholic waltz pitched between the Lovin' Spoonful and the Left Banke. A third and final album saw them abandon their harmony work and take up shouting in a bid to be taken seriously." Billy G Spradlin wrote: > I haven't heard any of the Project 3 material except for an > excellent single called "Lisa, But Not The Same" that I heard > on Jeffery Glenn's Wes Farrell/Tony Romeo compilation. Just as > great as any of the Kapp singles, and if anyone wants to hear > it I'll play it to musica. I've got the flip side (A side according to the discog?) of that single in mp3 format "Cool Sunday Morning" if anybody is interested - I can stick it on the musica. I didn't like it first but it's a massive grower, it's far more complex and subtle than the Kapp stuff, and possibly one of the finest things they've done. Finally there was an offshoot, the Giant Jellybean Copout who featured Jim Ruan, that I've read about elsewhere in the Spectropop listings, who did one single "Awake in a dream/Look at the girls" of which the flipside can be found on Fading Yellow 3, and is like a jazzy Pet Sounds, and certainly a must hear for any fans of the band. Chris -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 16:42:00 -0000 From: Stephanie Subject: Chris Clark Interview!!! Rare interview with Motown female singer Chris Clark: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=8202889&BRD=1817&PAG=461&dept_id=222087&rfi=6 Stephanie -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 11:51:33 -0500 From: Justin McDevitt Subject: re: B. Mitchell Reid Hi Spectropop, Country Paul wrote: > Actually, the fastest on-air talker I ever heard was the > late B. Mitchell Reid on WMCA in New York. Quick, funny, > and excellent musical taste". A favorite LP of mine is the 1963 selection in the Cruisin series which features WMCA's B. Mitchell Reid; great delivery, great sense of humor. A memorable moment on the Lp highlights promo for an upcoming softball game in Central Park between the WMCA Good Guys and some bunnies from the Manhattan Playboy club. I wonder who won the game? One of the tracks featured on the LP is Randy and The Rainbows' "Denise". Justin McDevitt -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 07:25:01 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: The Metropolitan Soul Show on Soul 24-7.com This Sunday 8th JUNE 2003 on Soul 24-7 at our NEW TIME of 2pm-4pm GMT http://www.soul24-7.com/index.htm The METROPOLITAN SOUL SHOW. 2 solid hours of 60s & 70s, but chiefly Northern Soul. This week --after a short break- the return of The Utterly Marvellous Simon White. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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