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Spectropop - Digest Number 902

               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Jingles and commercials
           From: Guy Lawrence 
      2. Re: Steve Kipner and Steve Groves
           From: Peter Rechter 
      3. The Peanut Butter Conspiracy Is (Still) Spreading
           From: Jason Penick 
      4. PMS pressings
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
      5. Re: The Critters
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
      6. More info about Brian Wilson's 'Smile' tour
           From: Neb Rodgers 
      7. Dance With The Guitar Man
           From: Justin McDevitt 
      8. Geator with the Heator, the Big Boss with the Hot Sauce
           From: Justin McDevitt 
      9. Re: Mickie Most
           From: Frank 
     10. Brian Wilson not in NJ; Nino & April; pix; Geator; Rinky Dink
           From: Country Paul 
     11. Name that Artist !!!
           From: Music Chef 
     12. There's Gonna Be A Storm
           From: David Goodwin 
     13. Jack Nitzsche update
           From: Martin Roberts 
     14. Linda Laurie
           From: Steven 
     15. Alternate Eva redux
           From: David A. Young 
     16. Bassic chord progressions.
           From: Steve Harvey 
     17. On The Flip Side
           From: David Ponak 
     18. The Robbs
           From: Patrick Rands 
     19. Re: The Critters
           From: David Coyle 
     20. Alternate Coasters
           From: David Coyle 
     21. The Chanter Sisters/The Other Two
           From: Ian Chapman 
     22. Re: PMS pressings
           From: James Botticelli 
     23. Re: Jack Nitzsche update
           From: Phil Milstein 
     24. Re: The Other Two
           From: Richard Havers 
     25. "Diane Renay And Friends" show is archived
           From: Ronnie Allen 


Message: 1
   Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 22:30:41 +0100
   From: Guy Lawrence 
Subject: Jingles and commercials

All this talk of commercials reminded me of an odd 45 that 
I bought a few years ago: The Lively Set - "There's Nothing 
Like Coffee" (Burland/Balk/Brookfield) Straight Ahead Records 
SB102066. Pr. Sascha Burland, arr. Billy Mure.

The flip is an instrumental of the same track credited to 
Jack & The Beans. I'd say it's from about '66 or '67 and is 
obviously some kind of commercial tie-in. It's an extremely 
bright and breezy harmony number and comes in a picture sleeve 
showing a preppy looking boy/girl group. Anyone know anything 
about this 45? Was this an ad at the time?


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Message: 2 Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 22:03:28 +0000 From: Peter Rechter Subject: Re: Steve Kipner and Steve Groves Mark Frumento wrote: >Does anyone know the history of Tin Tin in the early 70s? I have a >single called "I'm Afraid" which doesn't have writing credits from >either Steve. Pete Beckett is the writer and producer. It sounds like >Tin Tin but I'm wondering if either Steve was still in the group and >who Pete Beckett is? Hello Mark, I can't answer your questions on Tin Tin, or the single "I'm Afraid", but I did work with Steve Kipner for a very brief period in the early 70s. I was a signed writer to Image Music here in Melbourne, we were recording a number of demos at "Crystal Clear" studios in South Melbourne and Steve played guitar on 4 of my songs. I still have copies of the tracks & maybe one day we will put them on our web site! All the best from Oz, Peter. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 23:05:21 -0000 From: Jason Penick Subject: The Peanut Butter Conspiracy Is (Still) Spreading I just wanted to take the opportunity to invite all fans of the great L.A. band the Peanut Butter Conspiracy to check out my new website for them. I was inspired to create this site because so little information is currently available about this group via the internet. If you dig this band, please stop by and don't forget to check out the message board too! Thanks... Jason Penick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 23:09:30 -0000 From: Billy G. Spradlin Subject: PMS pressings Country Paul wrote: > Also worth noting about Philips/Mercury/Smash albums c. > '65-'68 is that they often used the exact same pressing - > the stereo pressing - and sold them in different mono & > stereo sleeves! (At least this was true for the DJ copies > we got.) My only guess is that if a mono plate wore out they'd just use the stereo plate instead to save cash. Nobody's gonna notice and if they did they got a bonus. I have a mono copy of the Walker Brothers first LP on Smash - and the second side is in stereo - no mentioning of stereo on the label. I remember reading on a classical music record collectors site that when Mercury was bought out by Phonogram (Dutch Philips and German Polydor) in the early 60s, the quality of LP pressings started going downhill (using cheaper vinyl) since Phonogram shelled out a lot of cash to buy a company in the USA to release product here. Phonogram tried to establish a distribution deal with (I think) Capitol but that fell through because of a conflict with parent EMI. So they bought Mercury/Smash instead and started the conglom- eration of many companies that became Polygram and later merged with MCA to become Universal Music. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 23:24:46 -0000 From: Billy G. Spradlin Subject: Re: The Critters Taragon Records put together a excellent single disc anthology of the Kapp era materal on the Critters. But it's been out of print here in the USA for a couple years. Phantom Records in Japan has re-issued the "Younger Girl" CD with 8 bonus tracks. $33.49 from Amazon. I haven't heard any of the Project 3 material except for an excellent single called "Lisa, But Not The Same" that I heard on Jeffery Glenn's Wes Farrell/Tony Romeo compilation. Just as great as any of the Kapp singles, and if anyone wants to hear it I'll play it to musica. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 20:15:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Neb Rodgers Subject: More info about Brian Wilson's 'Smile' tour Here's an exchange of messages posted at the official Brian Wilson site about the upcoming 'Smile' tour. The first one is from a fan, and the second one is from Brian himself! -Neb ---Original Messages Follow--- Hey Brian - Can you give us Americans any hope for a Smile tour after Britain yet? --------------------------------------- Rick - (posted by Brian Wilson on May 31, 2003) I think the plan for America is to do maybe three or four shows in the major cities.........I know we have plans for Los Angeles, and the rest is yet to be determined. L&M Brian ====== -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 22:19:32 -0700 From: Justin McDevitt Subject: Dance With The Guitar Man Hello Spectropop friends, In early 1963, a song was played on my local favorite radio station that has been mentioned, along with some other tunes recorded by the same girl group. The song I am referring to is "Dance With The Guitar Man," recorded with Duane Eddy. This group also recorded "Surfin' Hootennany," which I believe was the followup, if my memory serves me correctly. Are these tracks included on a Girl Group comp, or record label comp, or a Duane Eddy box set? It would be great to have these questions answered. Justin McDevitt P.S. A wonderful springtime here in the upper midwest. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 23:00:05 -0700 From: Justin McDevitt Subject: Geator with the Heator, the Big Boss with the Hot Sauce Good Fella wrote: > I spent last night at Memories Nite Club in Ventnor NJ, just > a 10 minute ride from Atlantic City NJ. Owner and DJed by > Jerry Blavat, better know as the "Geator with the Heator, > the Big Boss with the Hot Sauce. How fine it is to see the Geator's name mentioned on Spectropop, a man who has left his indelible musical mark on rock 'n roll as listened to by natives of the Philadelphia, South Jersey area and those of us who have spent a fair amount of time in this region. So many folks thought he was a black DJ. Hands down, Jerry Blavat was and still is the fast-talkinest, white DJ that I ever heard, even faster than that 60s DJ in Toronto, Mickey (can't think of his last name). The Geator put out a patter when he spun a platter. I miss hearing his voice. Next time I'm in South Jersey, I'll have to visit this club. Justin McDevitt -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 07:20:25 +0200 From: Frank Subject: Re: Mickie Most I had the luck to work several times with Mickie when he came over to France to record some of his acts in a castle near Paris. He had a vision of the music he liked which was at the same time clear and fascinating. I remember him telling me about his clear cut policy about Donovan's releases. Let him do all his non-commercial stuff on his LPs but always fight for a very commercial single track. And did it work ! A great guy with an uncanny sense of what was popular. Frank -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 01:46:51 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: Brian Wilson not in NJ; Nino & April; pix; Geator; Rinky Dink Dave Mirich: > ...The Brian Wilson NJ gig just got cancelled due to lack > of ticket sales Andrew Hickey: > the Brian Wilson thing amazes me - I'm absolutely flabber- > gasted. This is a man who should be selling out any venue > he plays the day tickets go on sale... Glad I got NYC tix. I'm frankly rather surprised too - but the prices *were* indeed quite highly cranked for both shows. Plus... Stuart Miller: > I think we're forgetting our history. The Beach Boys were > never that strong in the New Jersey area in the first place. > And for that matter The Beatles weren't either as compared > to other states. This was the very heartland of 4 Seasons > blue collar support and as far as most Jerseyites were > concerned, those blue eyed wonders from the west coast could > shove their surfboards in the one place where the blessed > sun didn't shine. As a proud but recent (early '90s) New Jerseyan, here's a reminder that Brian Wilson sold out the PNC Arts Center in 2000 for the Pet Sounds tour, and again had a full house for the dual tour with Paul Simon in 2001. NJPAC is an unusual place to host a concert like Brian Wilson - it is essentially a classical and fine arts hall hosting world-class orchestras like the NY Philharmonic, London Symphony Orchestra, etc., and is in downtown Newark, a city currently in positive turnaround (thanks in significant part to NJPAC's influence) but still (sadly) best known for its 1967 riots which cost it almost 2/3 of its population. Bill Reed, very nice interview at ! Their website, , which you reference, is also fascinating. What long and productive careers they've had. (Good info on April Stevens, although "officialized," is also there.) Mick Patrick: > I've just posted a nice big (and I'm talking BIG!) picture of > the little miss to S'pop's members page. Go to the photos > section: Nice, indeed. Also nice to see the Linda Laurie pix posted; she reminds me a bit of Renee Zellweger. Good to see the Jerry Blavat "Geator with the Heator" mentions. Although always on low-power indie stations, the Geator's influence was huge in Philadelphia and felt among rock cognoscenti nationwide with his excellent series of anthology albums in Lost Nite - graced with (or marred by, depending on your taste) his unique DJ style. Credit where due - he's still "keeping with faith" with his music. Phil Milstein: > Does anybody know anything about the origins of the tune > "Rinky Dink," the source of Dave Baby Cortez's 1960 hit? I > recently returned from the cultural oasis of Branson, Missouri, > where I saw a brilliant lounge organist named Jimmy Nicholas, > who claimed that he wrote that song, as well as another Cortez > hit "The Happy Organ," when he was 14 years old. My record collection is totally sheathed in plastic to protect it from a mammoth home renovation project, but I'll check when I unwrap it. I seem to remember a writer credit of "Clowney," Dave Clowney being his real name. Remind me off-list to check in a couple of weeks. RIP Mickie Most. And congratulations, Spectropop, on 900 digests and 932 members - and counting! Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 06:07:00 -0000 From: Music Chef Subject: Name that Artist !!! Ok, Spectropop faithful... I need your help !!! I'm currently digitizing the collection of William "Popsie" Randolph and we are stumped on a few of the 8 x 10s we have in the archives. This is your chance to SHINE! For every correct answer I get for the people here in the archive that I post, I'll send that person an 8 x 10 of their choice from our 60,000 images. I'll be posting new images daily and I'll check back for any feedback. LET THE GAMES BEGIN !!! BTW, the photos will be kept in a file called "Name that Artist" in the photo section Thanks Musicchef -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 01:22:26 -0500 From: David Goodwin Subject: There's Gonna Be A Storm Is this out of print all of a sudden? I've seen multiple copies of it *everywhere* for years, and suddenly I see it going for $30 on eBay...? -D -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 07:51:54 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Jack Nitzsche update Record of this Week is, (surprisingly) Suzi Jane Hokom & Lee Hazlewood. The track chosen - "Califia (Stone Rider)": Next week an A or B side pick between "What About You" - the Cannon Sisters' song and "Mind Reader" - only just confirmed as a Nitzsche track and sung by the delightful Ramona King on Eden. The Jingle is the first of the drum sessions: Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 12:56:01 -0000 From: Steven Subject: Linda Laurie I have just been browsing through last month's messages. I see Linda Laurie has been mentioned. You can hear her "Prince Charming" on the following site along with loads of other great tracks: Please can we recommend sites like these? Great free listening! Does anyone know any other sites where one can listen to early 60s stuff?? Can anyone better the material on the site above? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 13:51:21 +0000 From: David A. Young Subject: Alternate Eva redux Thank you, Mr Patrick, for corroborating and expanding upon my research in reply to Mr White's initial query. How great to have "Sugar Plum" to look forward to! Thanks to Mike Edwards, I have confirmed that the Jimmy Jones/Little Eva duet of "Don't You Just Know It" that I have on a compilation LP is the one released on Parkway credited only to Jones and included on his recent "Good Timin' " anthology. So my questions remain: Is Eva on both sides of this single, and Mick, is this the record to which you were referring when you said in the liner notes to "Here Come the Girls 7: The Trouble with Boys" that she recorded on Parkway, or did she have something under her own name there as well? David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 09:26:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Bassic chord progressions. As an aspiring bassist I noticed that most rock bassists of note started in the 60s. I think the bassists of the 50s suffered from the handicap of having to play the same old chord progressions over and over. When you started getting the songwriters like Brian Wilson and Lennon & McCartney they made their songs more interesting because they usually played in and out of various keys. That provided bassists a lot more room to experiment with. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 09:31:11 -0700 From: David Ponak Subject: On The Flip Side "On The Flip Side" was reissued on CD by Universal Music Japan about 5 or 6 years ago. I'm not sure if it's still in print or not. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:20:24 -0000 From: Patrick Rands Subject: The Robbs The song of the week this month is "Cynthia Loves" - by one of the biggest should've been but never did bands of the 1960s - The Robbs. Check out this album track and b-side for a great lost 60s tune. (click the image to access the song of the week page) Also you can tune into my special Robbs' radio show spotlight on Friday June 6th, 2003 (mark it on your calendars!) - from 6 to 7 pm Eastern Standard time on 90.3 WZBC FM Newton in the Boston area or online here: (the name of the feature show is Test Pattern, click the link to find out more information. Hopefully they will actually update the schedule soon, this is the first show of the new season). :Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:16:19 -0700 (PDT) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: The Critters I think it's about time to upgrade the Critters on CD. The "Kapp Anthology" disc has fairly spotty sound quality to my ears, and they could have done a lot better with the packaging. "Mr. Dieingly Sad," and their version of "Younger Girl" are both amazing great hits, but the flip sides, "It Just Won't Be That Way" and "Gone For Awhile" were equally boss. The CD pointed to by Ciccone's website seems pretty steep at 34 bucks, but I guess it's a Japanese CD, is it not? A label like Sundazed or Big Beat could do the Critters justice. David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:18:10 -0700 (PDT) From: David Coyle Subject: Alternate Coasters A year or so ago, I passed on a Coasters CD at a record fair. It looked at first like a regular greatest hits type package, but looking at the track listing, it seemed to be primarily alternate versions, demos and unreleased tracks. I can't remember the name of it. Is such a CD still in print? David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 18:37:04 -0000 From: Ian Chapman Subject: The Chanter Sisters/The Other Two No Kind Of Superstar wrote: > Back in 2001 I interviewed the legendary session guitarist > Big Jim Sullivan. One of the records I brought along to show > him was a See For Miles comp called "Decade Of Instrumentals: > 1959-1967". One of the tracks that really grabbed me on that > album was the Bo Diddleyesque "Grumbling Guitar" by the Other > Two. Big Jim was adamant that it was the Chanter Sisters' > studio debut, even though the liner notes mention Carol Attwood > and Jemima Smith. Is his memory playing tricks with him? > By the way, That Will Never Happen Again has been a big > influence on my zine. It's great to see you and Mick Patrick > as regular posters here. Thanks, er, No Kind. Well, if Jim's implication was that the Other Two and the Chanter Sisters were one and the same, I can quite categorically state that they weren't. The Other Two were indeed Jemima Smith and Caroline Attard and "Grumbling Guitar" was the (mostly) instrumental "B" side of their first 45 in 1964. The duo had three singles released in total, which included versions of the Tammys' "Hold Back The Light Of Dawn" and the Goffin/King song, "Don't You Wanna Love Me Baby". There's some previous discussion of their output in the Spectropop archives: The girls were a little way-out for the time and had a memorable "one-blonde-one-brunette" image. Check out the "pictures" section, where Mick has posted a great 60s shot showing Jemima, left and Caroline, right. They split after Jemima married Duane Eddy; Caroline went on to join the band Storyteller in '69, marrying Andy Bown, previously of the Herd. As Carolyn Bown, she gave an interview to John Tobler in '97, which can be found at Andy Bown's website: and follow the link to Storyteller. In it, Carolyn gives the story of the Other Two's unusual entry into the music biz (they were managed by Don Arden) and mentions their stint at the Star Club and touring with Chuck Berry. Sadly, Carolyn passed away in July 2001. The Chanter Sisters came a little later, and other than the fact that they too were one blonde and one brunette, there's little similarity in their stories. Irene and Doreen, real sisters, didn't begin as a duo, but recorded with their brothers Alex and Charlie - this foursome comprised the Chanters on CBS, whose first 45, "Everytime" appeared in late '66. It seems they didn't become a duo until they became Birds of a Feather in '69. The list of artists they backed in the 70s and 80s is too unwieldy to list here, but includes Bryan Ferry, David Essex, Rod Stewart, Manfred Mann, Kiki Dee - plus (attention, Phil!) Gary Shearston and Sue Glover, of Sue & Sunny (any memories on the Chanters, Phil?!!) Don't have any old publicity shots of the sisters, but you can find a couple of contemporary pics of Irene and Doreen at Chris Farlowe's website, they having recently provided backing vocals for his new "Farlowe That!" album: So having established the Chanter Sisters weren't the Other Two, is it possible that they were *at* the "Grumbling Guitar" session, adding vocals? Unlikely - '64 would have been too early for Irene and Doreen to be on the the UK session circuit, which was pretty much sewn up in the early 60s. As Lesley Duncan once told me, "at that time, it was either the Ladybirds, the Breakaways or the Mike Sammes Singers!" Ian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 14:57:26 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: PMS pressings Billy G. Spradlin wrote: > I have a mono copy of the Walker Brothers first LP on Smash > - and the second side is in stereo - no mentioning of stereo > on the label. I have a stereo copy of The Rose Garden LP on Atco, most songs of which are in mono with the exception of "Next Plane To London". -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:37:18 -0500 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Jack Nitzsche update > Next week an A or B side pick between "What About You" - the > Cannon Sisters' song and "Mind Reader" - only just confirmed > as a Nitzsche track and sung by the delightful Ramona King on > Eden. I'd like to hear both, so my suggestion is that whichever one doesn't make it this time becomes the ROTW the week after that. --Ph. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:18:40 +0100 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: The Other Two Ian Chapman wrote: > the Other Two.....were a little way-out for the time and > had a memorable "one-blonde-one-brunette" image. Check out > the "pictures" section, where Mick has posted a great 60s > shot showing Jemima, left and Caroline, right. I have a page scanned from a magazine about the girls; it includes the same pic as Mick posted. If anyone wants a copy please mail me off list and I will be happy to send it along. Best Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:04:35 EDT From: Ronnie Allen Subject: "Diane Renay And Friends" show is archived To all, I am very pleased to report that WBCB has archived my entire "Diane Renay And Friends" show on their website. I did the show live-by-phone with Diane from the WBCB studios (1490-AM Fairless Hills, PA) on May 22nd. You can now listen to all three hours of the show whenever you want ..... 24/7. Diane and I played her big hit "Navy Blue" and several tracks from her current double-CD "Diane Renay Sings Some Things Old And Some Things New." Sixteen different "friends" joined us: people she has performed and/or toured with, recorded with, studied with and/or become personal friends with. All her friends appeared in pre-recorded interview segments except for Artie Singer and Bob Crewe, who appeared both pre-recorded and live-by-phone during the show. Crewe -- our "top secret" mystery guest -- was, in fact, live-by -phone with Diane and myself for the final 45 minutes of the show, one of his very rare radio interviews! Diane's friends, in order of appearance were: HOUR 1: ------------- Artie Singer (her vocal teacher 45 years ago) Eddie Rambeau (co-writer of "Navy Blue") Bobby Vee Johnny Tillotson Barbara Harris (lead singer of the Toys) Bobby "Boris" Pickett HOUR 2: ------------ Peggy March Paul Petersen Gerry Granahan (a/k/a Dickey Doo and the Don'ts) Sue Thompson Lou Christie Bobby Goldsboro HOUR 3: ------------- Terry Fischer (lead singer of the Murmaids) Dee Dee Sharp Charlie Gracie Bob Crewe To access the show, use the link specified in this post which gets you to the WBCB homepage. On the upper right hand portion of the page single-click "Listen to Ronnie Allen's - Diane Renay And Friends Interview". Within seconds the show will begin to play from the beginning. Whatever player you have will automatically load the show one hour at a time. When the first hour is complete there will be a few seconds of silence and then the second hour will automatically start. When the second hour is complete there will be a few seconds of silence and then the third hour will automatically start. Some (but not all) players will allow you to pick out the specific hour you want to begin with by selecting Clip 1, Clip 2 or Clip 3. Most players allow you to fast-forward to a later portion within that hour (or to rewind to a previous portion). Depending on whether you have cable or dial-up the buffering may be quick or slow. Diane and I are most grateful to all of her friends who participated in this very unusual show and to those who heard the show live and have already commented about it. And I would like to express my personal gratitude to Diane for her efforts in assisting me in contacting many of the guests who appeared on the show. The show was fun for all of us and we hope that you all enjoy it! I very much value your feedback. I welcome comments and/or suggestions for future shows! Thanks everybody! Ronnie Allen -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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