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Spectropop - Digest Number 863

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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)


There are 19 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Turtles/ Can I Get To Know You?
           From: Ken Silverwood 
      2. Dick Campbell Song
           From: Gary Campbell 
      3. Re: 60s oldies are becoming a vanishing breed
           From: Billy G Spradlin 
      4. Oldies radio - alternatives
           From: Neil Hever 
      5. Ron Dante and Andy Kim video clip
           From: Laura Pinto 
      6. Re: The Liquid Room 4/20/03
           From: Gene Sculatti 
      7. Re: Oldies
           From: James Botticelli 
      8. "Foreign Boy" by Veronica Lee
           From: Andres Jurak 
      9. Re: List of Spector Covers
           From: Natasha McNamee 
     10. Re: Oldies radio
           From: Patrick Rands 
     11. Re: Banned songs
           From: Roger Smith 
     12. Re: Sad State Of Oldies Radio
           From: David Coyle 
     13. Re: 1963
           From: Justin McDevitt 
     14. Re: Rag Dolls
           From: Justin McDevitt 
     15. King's Ransom found!
           From: Neil Hever 
     16. Felice Bryant; Brother Records; George Freeman; Nedra Ross
           From: Country Paul 
     17. Carter Lewis
           From: Norman 
     18. Re: List of Spector Covers
           From: Rob Stride 
     19. Re: Oldies radio - alternatives
           From: James Botticelli 

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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 00:38:04 +0100 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Turtles/ Can I Get To Know You? We were mentioning The Turtles quite recently in a few posts. One of my fave tracks has been "Can I Get To Know You Better?" There is also a version by Mark Wynter done in a more "easy" style, then again there is another version by Betty Everett. Ken On The West Coast. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 14:12:54 -0000 From: Gary Campbell Subject: Dick Campbell Song I posted a Dick Campbell mp3 to musica called "She's My Girl." This is the b side of the second single Dick had published. CAMSUL RECORDS CS-1 - DICK CAMPBELL (1962) Debbie Darling (Dick Campbell)/She's My Girl (Dick Campbell) Published by Camsul Records Produced by Dick Campbell & Artie Sullivan GREAT RECORDS 45-4703-V - DICK CAMPBELL (1963) She's My Girl (Dick Campbell)/Debbie Darling (Dick Campbell) Hovey Music (BMI) Produced by Camsul - Distributed by London Records, Inc. The first was: LEAF RECORDS C-234/5 - DICK & ROGER (1960) C-234 Greatest Girl (Dick Campbell-Roger Hesseling) C-235 Happy-Go-Lucky (Dick Campbell) Produced by Dick Campbell & Roger Hesseling I will post more songs if anyone is interested in hearing them. Gary Campbell -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 22:13:49 -0000 From: Billy G Spradlin Subject: Re: 60s oldies are becoming a vanishing breed I think that many oldies stations that added more 70s disco and classic rock hits (to get 35-40 somethings to listen) will eventually start losing ratings. A lot of 70s hits just don't have the staying power of 50s/60s classic oldies and listeners get burned out on them quickly. That said "Real Oldies" KSAI 1530 in Cincy just started streaming on the net. You can go to their website at and use the streamworks pop-up java player (which gives you the song titles) but I prefer using this quick link, which should automatically open Windows Media Player, otherwise paste the URL into the playlist BTW I suggest checking out the Saturday night request show. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 22:21:33 -0000 From: Neil Hever Subject: Oldies radio - alternatives Popsters, I work in radio (public, thank God) so reading the posts about calcified playlists and meek program directors hit home. I used to work in commercial radio and hated every minute. Indeed, I feel PDs need to grow a spine when it comes to music rotation. The sad thing is many folks just don't seem to share our passion for good music. We've spoken a bit about this kind of thing on this site. Here is my dream if I had the money. I would create an "Alternate Universe" top 40 radio station. It would mimic the golden age of top 40 radio but play all non-top 40 material. In other words, it would make hits of songs that did not make it to the top 40. The station would play hundreds of well recognized artists' OTHER songs! I think it would be a very exciting thing to do. I guess we already do this kind of thing with our homemade tapes and CDs! Cheers, Neil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 23:49:03 -0000 From: Laura Pinto Subject: Ron Dante and Andy Kim video clip Hi everybody. If you want to see some really great performing, go to Ron Dante Online at and click on the link for "Pretty Woman". This will open up a new browser window where you can view a TERRIFIC video of Ron Dante and Andy Kim duetting on Roy Orbison's hit song. The sound quality is indescribable, and the view ain't bad either! Do check it out, and while you're on Ron's homepage, you can also click on the link right above that one to hear Ron's duet with Toni "I'm gonna make your life so sweet" Wine on a cool new version of "Summer in the City," which will be included on Ron's forthcoming CD, "Favorites 2". Enjoy the great music! Laura -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 17:03:09 -0700 From: Gene Sculatti Subject: Re: The Liquid Room 4/20/03 David Ponak: > 1.The Association/Come On In > Birthday (WB) David, Hats off: What a brilliant song choice, and starting off the show with it is great. A major soft-rock statement! Gene Sculatti Director of Special Issues, Billboard magazine (323) 525-2310 -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:04:09 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Oldies Country Paul wrote: > Nowadays the term "oldie" seems to refer to music of the > 70s, the 80s and even the early 90s! Just back from NYC where their WCBS (corporate enuff for ye?) is now billing itself as "Motown! Soul! And Good Rock 'n' Roll!" I even heard Eddie Holman and The Delfonics. Big hitz, yes, but still....apparently not JUST the Sureshot Sixty Songs commonly oldie-ized. Is there hope? JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 08:42:09 -0000 From: Andres Jurak Subject: "Foreign Boy" by Veronica Lee Hi everybody, Please check musica where I have played 'Foreign Boy' by Veronica Lee. It's the flip side of the single RINGO DID IT, released on Centaur in 1964. Marvelous song! Special thanks to Tom Taber for helping to dig up this treasure! Andres -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 10:42:54 +0100 (BST) From: Natasha McNamee Subject: Re: List of Spector Covers Rob Stride: > I wonder if anyone can help me? Is there anywhere that I > can get a list of artists that have covered songs produced > or written by Phil Spector? My local library has a 'Wall Of Sound' CD of Phil covers. Let me know if you want names and I'll hire it out and send the list on. Natasha -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 14:19:21 -0000 From: Patrick Rands Subject: Re: Oldies radio Ronnie Allen wrote: > I keep hearing more and more that 60s oldies are gradually > in the process of being totally phased out on oldies > stations throughout the country..... It's interesting you mention "oldies" radio, because for a short time I am covering for another DJ, before my regularly scheduled show (which is an experimental music show) and I have been playing plenty of "oldies". My show is right now a weekly show, Tuesdays from 6 to 10 pm on WZBC 90.3 FM in the Boston area, and between 6 and 7 pm Eastern time I play rock (before my experimental radio show). You can also tune in online here: You can see my playlists here (just choose Tuesday nights, NCP 1): Here's a sampling of what I played recently: P.F. Sloan - Danger Man (Secret Agent Man) The Unifics - Court Of Love The Guards - Let Me Go Home The Peddlers - Irresistable You Buddy Rich - The Beat Goes On The Forum - Look The Other Way The Blades of Grass - I Love You Alice B. Toklas Thomas & Richard Frost - She's Got Love Hearts and Flowers - Ode To A Tin Angel Don & The Goodtimes - I Could Be So Good To You Mark Eric - Place For The Summer Ramsey Lewis - Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey Reparata & the Delrons - Octopus' Garden Rossini Pinto - Coracao De Pedra Wanderlea - Nao (Juventud Twist) Los Shakers - Acostumbro A Ver TV Los Martes 36 The Liverbirds - Diddley Daddy Andrea Carroll - The Doo Lang Babbity Blue - Don't Make Me The Pandoras - Don't Bother Nara Leao - Rapaz De Bem Chico Buarque - Desalento So tune in while you can - I'll be broadcasting from 6 to 7 pm for a few more weeks. :Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 13:36:57 -0400 From: Roger Smith Subject: Re: Banned songs > But it gets weirder: according to the Sun, US megalithic > multi-station owner Clear Channel not only banned anti-war > songs, but even cleared its playlist of people who died in > plane crashes (!), like Rick Nelson and Buddy Holly, and even > restricted the Bangles' "Walk Like An Egyptian"! (Golly, Mr. > Channel, thank you for protecting my sensitive ears! :-( ) The story about Clear Channel banning songs isn't true as the article at explains. -- Roger -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 12:08:55 -0700 (PDT) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: Sad State Of Oldies Radio Thanks to Stewart for those thought-provoking words about '60s oldies radio. Like him, I'm from a different musical generation. I was born in 1972, and my earliest musical memories start around the time of the maligned disco era and cheesy '80s music. My interest in '60s music came squarely from the Beatles, although I don't know how as my mother was born in '39 and was raised on country and MOR pop. As I got older and heard more Beatles music than what I already had on the "Blue" and "Red" albums (which I had on 8-track), I got interested in the other bands from the era, and then when seeking out the original versions of songs the Beatles did, I got into even earlier music. I know "oldies radio" is phasing out the '60s and sneaking in a lot of '70s -- I've heard "Don't Stop" by Fleetwood Mac way too many times on these stations. Oldies radio hasn't always been completely homogenized though -- I probably wouldn't have checked out the McCoys, the Bobby Fuller Four, or the American Breed if I hadn't heard "Come On Let's Go," "Love's Made A Fool Of You," or "Step Out Of Your Mind," respectively, played on oldies radio. Of course, these deviations from the standard playlist were courtesy of renegade deejays who didn't seem to stay on the air much longer. Probably the only true oldies radio show I've heard recently has been Humble Harv's "Doo Wop Heaven" show, and I don't even know if it's still on. Good news to hear about WSAI in Cincinnati. I haven't heard the name Dusty Rhodes in a long time. Are AM oldies stations more likely to play a different variety of oldies since they're lower profile than on FM? David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:32:28 -0500 From: Justin McDevitt Subject: Re: 1963 Jimmy wrote: "There will never be another year like 1963". If ever there is a reason to wax nostalgic about the past, for me, the year 1963 provides the incentive. It was a great year to be an 11-year-old kid. In 1963, I began listening to music with a more discerning, critical ear. That year, I encountered and lived through my first real crush on a girl who ultimately married the class cut-up, whose demeanor was the opposite of her more demure personality. In the spring of 1963, I first became aware of the power of a woman's sexuality/sensuality with the disclosure of the Christine Keeler scandal. Motown took a leap forward in 1963 with hits by Mary Wells, Marvin Gaye and Martha and the Vandellas. Peter Paul and Mary charted with Bob Dylan's "Blowin In the Wind." In 1963, I was fortunate enough to hear Ray Charles's "Busted," Esther Phillips' "Release Me" and Mongo Santamaria's "Watermelon Man." On August 25, rather than play outside with my friends, I stayed indoors and watched television coverage of a watershed event in the history of the American civil rights movement; the mass march on Washington D.C. and Martin Luther King's "I have a dream" speech. My favorite Brian Wilson composition, "In My Room" charted toward the end of 1963. As a result of an impulsive decision by my dad, on November 25 of that year, I participated in a historic event by attending JFK's funeral at Arlington National Cemetery. That event taught me about resiliency, my own and that of the USA. The day after Christmas 1963, I first heard "I Want To Hold Your Hand," and knew in my 11-year-old heart and gut that these guys were going to breathe new and vibrant life into rock 'n roll music, and revolutionize this relatively young genre forever. So there you have it. Though marred by the Kennedy assassination, 1963 was indeed a very good year. Justin McDevitt -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 16:02:32 -0500 From: Justin McDevitt Subject: Re: Rag Dolls Natasha wrote: > I'm trying to find Rag Dolls mp3s and other oldies, > and I'm finding nothing!! Help!! Natasha, I have a CD copy of "Dusty" which I can send you. I am also looking for a copy of "Society Girl," the Rag Dolls' song that preceded "Dusty" and which I first heard on the radio in the summer of 1964. Justin McDevitt -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 21:55:46 -0000 From: Neil Hever Subject: King's Ransom found! Popsters, for fans of 60s garage, good news today. I just received an acetate master of the first three songs recorded by Allentown's King's Ransom in 1965. This pre-dates their celebrated folk rocker "Shame" which is well known among garage collectors. I even have the mother pressing! Apparently, this was recorded but never released. The songs include the slow burn punk hate song "Without You" and a killer version of "Ain't That Just Like Me" which was a song done by the Searchers if I'm not mistaken. For collectors in this area this is the holy grail of Pennsylvania garage rock. Neil Hever -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:06:02 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: Felice Bryant; Brother Records; George Freeman; Nedra Ross Today (Tuesday) marks the passing of Felice Bryant, who with her husband Boudleaux, wrote hundreds of hits for the Everly Brothers, Roy Orbison and seemingly countless others. She was 77 and died of cancer. has a fuller story, plus a recent and classic picture of Felice Bryant. Fun, fun, fun: "Brother Records Inc. on Monday sued former Beach Boys singer-guitarist Al Jardine for using the band's name when he tours." Seems only Mike Love can use the group name these days. Details: Some catch-up notes: Great Emmit Rhodes story I never knew. Ian Chapman cites "Down & Out" by George Freeman ("one of the all- time northern soul big city ballad spine-tinglers"). I'd forgotten about this excellent record; used to play it on the radio! Who was George Freeman? Did he record more after - or before - this? (A Google search turned up a George Freeman who is a jazz guitarist with half a dozen albums between 1969 and 2001 - is this the same person?) And Ian, thanks for the further probe of I read the excellent articles on the Addrisi Brothers (always loved "Cherrystone") and the Cyrkle. (For those checking out the latter, Don Dannemann has retired from the jingle business and sold his studio.) FYI, Phil Reynolds: I went to to find out more about Kal David (the Rhinestones were a huge "local" act in Connecticut, always packing a club) but the site was under construction. Is there an alternate URL? Phil Reynolds again: > I found an album by Nedra [Talley] Ross from 1978 on New Song/ > Jubilation label - a division of Myrrh, the Christian music label > in Waco. The album is called "Full Circle."...Christian star (and > ex-Glass Harp guitarist) Phil Keaggy played a prominent role in > playing, vocals, and writing. She also does vocals on a CCM [Christian Contemporary Music] album credited to Phil Keaggy, "The Courts of the King" (New Song, 1977), which Ian mentioned. Never heard it. Keaggy is a major figure in CCM; his early 70s group, Love Song, included Chuck Girard, and had some really nice Beach Boys-sounding tracks, some without ladling the gospel message on too heavily (for those of us not born-again). There is an interesting column by Al Aronowitz, "Left-Wing Jesus Freak?" about Nedra (a bit) and her husband, Scott Ross, who was a Christian DJ and went on to Pat Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network. On a less emotionally-charged note, there are also some very nice 2002 shots of Nedra - and lots of other folks - on Mary Wilson's website Worth checking if you haven't been there yet.) Albabe: > I've always loved the "junk" in the middle of "Susan." Psychedelic > strings and all....[w]orks both ways to me. I prefer the "junk" in "Susan." Similar in construction: Sagitarrius' "My World Fell Down," but the marginal nod here goes to junk-free. By the way, Al, I don't exactly remember "Dawn of Correction," but it was the right-wing answer to the left-wing "Eve of Destruction." IMO, not as awful, but just as blunt. Finally, today is the birthday of Peter Frampton (1950). (Does he feel like we do?!?) Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 08:54:00 +0930 From: Norman Subject: Carter Lewis Re: Carter-Lewis I was lucky enough to get a copy of "John Carter - The Essential Works in The Studios 1963-1982" JPN : 2001 EM Records EM1012CD (CD) Japanese Notes by Hiroshi Asada The tracks listing is as follows; Skinny Minnie / Carter-Lewis & The Southerners Your Momma's Out Of Town / Carter-Lewis & The Southerners Let's Go To San Francisco / Flowerpot Men You Can Never Be Wrong / Flowerpot Men Mississippi Lady / Greenback A Night To Be Remembered / Dawn Chorus Heavenly Road / Sweet Chariot Move Out Of Town / Stamford Bridge The First Day Of Your Life / Stamford Bridge Hello, Hello, Hello / Stormy Petrel One More Mile To Freedom / John Carter The Laughing Man / John Carter & Russ Alquist Tossing and Turning / Hooters (feat. Elaine Paige) Dreams Are Ten A Penny / Kincade Oh, California / Magic Beach Baby / First Class Bienvenido / First Class Singing Your Praises / National Velvet Sound Of Summer / Starbreaker Song On The Wind / Circus Robots Machines And Silicon Dreams / Omega Theatre Interesting CD to have for fans of Carter-Lewis, and the harmony pop stuff, but I reckon the 1993 SEQUEL NEX CD 234 release "The Carter-Lewis Story" looks great. I hope that the new RPM double features as much Carter Lewis and the Southeners tracks as this CD does. I have mentioned this site before but it is worth a look if you like Carter-Lewis related stuff. Hirosi's site on Cheers Norman -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 00:39:08 +0100 (BST) From: Rob Stride Subject: Re: List of Spector Covers Natasha McNamee wrote: > My local library has a 'Wall Of Sound' CD of Phil covers. > Let me know if you want names and I'll hire it out and send > the list on. That's very kind of you Natasha, they would be great. Couldn't you photocopy the CD cover in the library?. If there isn't a comprehensive list out there, perhaps I'll compile one. I've just discovered a live version of "Be My Baby" by Patti Smith! I just keep finding more and more versions of Spector songs. Rob -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 20:03:31 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Oldies radio - alternatives Neil Hever wrote: > I would create an "Alternate Universe" top 40 radio station. > It would mimic the golden age of top 40 radio but play all > non-top 40 material. In other words, it would make hits of > songs that did not make it to the top 40. The station would > play hundreds of well recognized artists' OTHER songs! I > think it would be a very exciting thing to do...... ......It is and I did. I started a show called "Lost & Found" on college radio back in the early 80s. We, the original five DJs (we were on five days a week, still are in fact, but its staff is overpopulated by AOR junkies and Deadheads) had but one rule: it could never have been a hit. At first we toyed with the idea of naming the show "The Flipside of the Followup" but thought it too precious. So L&F it became. At the time 45s were in abundance, cheap at yard sales and used record shops. LPs were recycled as fashions changed musically and they were usually pretty cheap...rarely was something used over $5.99, usually less. And 60s pop was widely scorned as the Garage Rock/ Roots of Punk became the thing. I later branched into exclusively obscure soul, but it was a great few years while it lasted... JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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