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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 17 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. More Tony Hatch
           From: Michael Edwards 
      2. Re: Bandstand/Action
           From: David Coyle 
      3. Re: The Association
           From: David Coyle 
      4. Fwd:  Elvis Presley in Concert
           From: Neb Rodgers 
      5. Re: The Association
           From: Phil Reynolds 
      6. Re: Fake Merseybeat
           From: TD 
      7. Metropolitan Soul playlist 30 March 2003
           From: Simon White 
      8. Re Fake Merseybeat
           From: Tony Bayliss 
      9. Never My Love
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
     10. Re: Scopitone questions
           From: Jeffery Kennedy 
     11. Re: Action
           From: Phil Milstein 
     12. Re: Fake Merseybeat
           From: David Coyle 
     13. re: Scopitone Questions
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     14. Re: Johnny Madara & Dave White
           From: Lindsay Martin 
     15. Kay Starr, "Ugly" Paris Sisters
           From: Country Paul 
     16. Re: Fake Merseybeat
           From: Phil Reynolds 
     17. Re Fake Merseybeat
           From: Andres Jurak 


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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:39:04 -0000 From: Michael Edwards Subject: More Tony Hatch I was listening to a spoken track by Bobby Rydell entitled "A Message From Bobby" where he discusses his then current LP "Top Hits Of 1963". Bobby mentions that during the course of that year he visited London for the premiere of "Bye Bye Birdie", met the Royal Family and recorded some tracks in London. One of these of course was "Forget Him", written by Tony Hatch, which reminded me that Tony wrote under two pseudonyms, Mark Anthony and Fred Nightingale. Mick Patrick recently asked for some questions to submit to Tony, so: 1 Why did he use the pseudonyms? 2 Does he have any comments on the Bobby Rydell sessions? The resultant LP "Forget Him" contained some fabulous songs, such as "Darling Jenny" that Tony wrote. 3 How about some comments on his work with the Liverpool group, The Chants. Their "I Could Write A Book" (released here on Cameo in 1964) was a terrific piece of uptempo doo-wop and must have been a big disappointment when it failed in both the UK and US. 4 Did he like doing movie work? I can recall "Saturday Night Out" by the Searchers (1963) and "Look For A Star" (from "Circus Of Horrors") by Gary Mills, Gary Miles, Billy Vaughan and Deane Hawley (1960). Most probably there were others. Mike Edwards (with thanks to Phil Milstein for the inspiration. Phil, everyone wanted to plug my laptop in when "The Beep" played!) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:04:06 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: Bandstand/Action I've seen bits and pieces of the Dick Clark-produced TV show "American Dreams." The storylines are a bit contrived and busy, but for recreating the behind-the-scenes atmosphere of the Bandstand TV show, it's certainly a nice time warp. Saw an episode from the other night that featured Leann Rimes as Connie Francis, singing "Where The Boys Are", and Duncan Sheik as a rather convincing Bobby Darin, not only performing "Beyond The Sea", but getting some lines in here and there. Overall, though, the original "Bandstand" clips of classic performances are shown on the camera monitors as stand-ins mimicking the movements are shown in far-off shots. The one I saw last night had the Everly Brothers and the Beach Boys. Don't ask me anything about the plot though. The non-musical content of the show leaves far more to be desired... David P.S. A good idea for some future episode could have the main characters in the "Bandstand" segments doing a stint on "Where The Action Is", with some interesting outdoors recreations thrown in. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:53:05 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: The Association I saw the current lineup of the Association at the Ohio State Fair along with the Buckinghams a couple summers ago and they were really good. What got me was the white suits with the black string ties. Larry Ramos reminded me somewhat of Col. Sanders -- no offense! What impressed me was that I had heard an Association song on the radio a few years ago that was one that got little or no airplay. All I could remember was the one line at the end "...and a million miles away (sic)" At the show I went to, they introduced a song as their very first record and immediately launched into what was "One Too Many Mornings." Certainly the highlight of the evening. Not long after that I found the song on a Collectors Choice comp called "Buried Treasure", which also featured the song's b-side, "Forty Times". I had sufficed with a copy of the "Greatest Hits" LP, knowing that the available CD version was pretty outdated, and confident that things would be updated in due time. Rhino really outdid my expectations with the "Just The Right Sound" anthology. It was really one of the top reissue packages of the year. David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:20:01 -0800 (PST) From: Neb Rodgers Subject: Fwd: Elvis Presley in Concert Well, not anytime soon, of course.... -Neb > ---Original Text--- > Elvis Presley in Concert > http://www.elvisconcerts.com/ > We all know the King donned elaborate jumpsuits during his > Las Vegas year. Now, thanks to this exhaustive site, you can > learn the subtle yet important differences between Elvis' > King of Spades Suit and his Memphis Suit. Use over 50 of > Elvis' jumpsuits as an illustrated index to his concert years > from 1969 to 1977. Animals are present in abundance on the > Mad Tiger Suit from 1974, the Owl Suit of 1972, and 1973's > Aloha Eagle Suit. Don't miss the unusual Gypsy Suit and some > stunning back views of the Chinese Dragon Suit. Check out the > Caped Fringes Suit, worn only once in 1970, then witness the > King dancing amid a swirl of super-long fringe in Los Angeles. > For the less fashion-minded, this fan site serves up the > requisite details on Elvis' early years and Vegas shows, plus > many concert reviews. But it's the jumpsuits that make this > site a hunka hunka burnin' love. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:03:00 -0600 From: Phil Reynolds Subject: Re: The Association Bill Reed: > This morning I was on the phone with Clark Burroughs, who contributed > significantly to the vocal arranging of the Association. Thanks for the update on Clark Burroughs, I look forward to his new band. His vocal arrangements on the Association's "Insight Out" and their last album (on Columbia) "Waterbeds in Trindidad" were "breathtaking" as well. He went much deeper into rock& roll with the group "Gypsy" for their first two terrific albums on Metromedia. The first is a true classic, and is a double album. The second had some excess as well, but both rocked hard (but had good harmonies, of course), You had to love any group who's main songwriter was named Enrico Rosenbaum. Clark also produced one album on Verve for the Gordian Knot, that was a very Association influenced band. One of their singer/songwriter members was Jim Weatherly, who wrote "Midnight Train to Georgia" and other hits, and had a few hit singles and albums on his own. It also is worth checking out. For more recent Clark Burroughs harmonies, investigate the jazz tribute to Brian Wilson "Wouldn't It be Nice". The Clark Burroughs Group contributes beautiful versions of Beach Boy songs: "Can't Wait Too Long", "I Went to Sleep", "Cabinessence", "Surfs Up", and "Till I Die". Good stuff! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:12:31 -0500 From: TD Subject: Re: Fake Merseybeat Dan Hughes: I think I read somewhere that the Beau Brummels did not go out of their way to correct fans who thought they were British.... ---Dan How about "She's About a Mover" by The Sir Douglas Quintet (Doug Sahm from Texas) TD -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 17:05:50 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Metropolitan Soul playlist 30 March 2003 Kim Weston Helpless [Long Version ] The Agents Trouble Rosco Robinson That's Enough Bettye Swann Lonely Love Troy Keyes Love Explosions Nancy Wilson The End Of Our Love Kelly St Clair Don't Look Over Your Shoulder Patti Page Til You Come Back To Me Tina Mason Finders Keepers The Glories I Worship You Baby The Gems I'll Be There The Hesitations Is This The Way To Treat A Girl Cookie Woodson I'll Be True The Masqueraders I Ain't Gonna Stop The Olympics Girl You're My Kind Of People The Mirettes Aint You Trying To Crossover Detroit Spinners For All We Know The New Wanderers Ain't Gonna Do You No Harm The Cruisers Take A Chance Warren Lee Climb The Ladder Sam Waymon You Can Count On Me Andre Brassuer Early Bird Sattelite Jerry Butler Its Too Late Sammy Davis Jnr But Not For Me Cindy Gibson I'll Always Love You Eddie Holman A Free Country The Daylighters For My Baby The Essex Shes Got Everything Mary Wells Why Don't You Let Yourself Go Toni Lamarr I'll Do Anything Elaine Delmar What Love Can Do Sandi Sheldon One Minute Too Late Archie Bell I Love My Baby Pages Heartaches And Pain Hoagy Lands Do You Know What Life Is All About Al Downing Bring Your Good Lovin Home September Caution Zulema Just Look What You Have Done -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 18:01:54 -0000 From: Tony Bayliss Subject: Re Fake Merseybeat Antonio: > Are there any other American groups who pretended to be > from England and that tried to cash in on the Merseybeat > craze that swept America in 1964?" Not 'exactly' American, but Canadian should be close enough.. from St.Catharines, Ontario .. The British ModBeats. They did quite well locally and even reformed a few years ago. Headed by Frazier Loveman (sp?). Tony Baylis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 11:55:07 +0100 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: Never My Love It is one of my greatest musical regrets that I never got to see the Association live ... fabulous sound and recordings. Last year Larry Ramos remade 'Never My Love' (mostly) in Hawaiian with Jeffrey Foskett. It is on a 3 track CD single on Paradise Productions PCD 315: Never My Love - 'A'ole La e Ku'ulei - LR & JF God Loves Laughter - LR Honolulu City Lights - JF Worth trying to pick up if you know anyone in Hawaii! Kingsley -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:25:08 -0000 From: Jeffery Kennedy Subject: Re: Scopitone questions Frank, glad you found the link helpful. Every once in awhile the Roxie Theater here in San Francisco has a Scopitone night, and it's really something to see these clips on a big screen. The Exciters clips are classics---good grief, WHAT A VOICE!---but many of them are entertaining, and for different reasons, ranging from raunch (Lesley Gore's "Wonder Boy" clip is set on a school campus, where a mysterious wind blows up her sorority sisters' skirts, flashing quite a bit of, erm, undergarments!) to camp (Joi Lansing's "Web of Love") to lots of fun (Sylvie Vartan lipsynching "Twist and Shout" in French while reclining on the hood of a moving car!). There are some boring ones, too. The two clips I most want to see in their entirety are Francoise Hardy's "Tous les garcons..." and Timi Yuro's "If." I understand that Scopitone videotapes and DVDs exist. Even MORE things to look for on eBay! Jeffery -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 14:46:58 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Action David Coyle wrote: > P.S. A good idea for some future episode could have > the main characters in the "Bandstand" segments doing > a stint on "Where The Action Is", with some > interesting outdoors recreations thrown in. Judging only from a variety of non-contiguous clips, I am vaguely haunted by the structure of Where The Action Is. Can anyone explain any of it to me? It seemed to always position its musical acts along some kind of waterfront, with segments introduced off-camera by the voice of Dick Clark. Did the different acts appear from different locales within a given day's episode? With Clark as the disembodied host, what was the role of Paul Revere & The Raiders (et al)? Did Clark treat the show as a second-string version of Bandstand? Was the show 30 minutes or 60? How many years was it on? Was Bandstand also a daily show during this same period? Sorry to blather on with all these questions, but there's something inherently strange about the mandatoriness of all these waterfront clips (I mean, what if it rained?), and the thought (admittedly perhaps a fantasy of mine) that they were "flown in" by early satellite hookup to create a truly national daily program, manipulated and overseen by the stern hand of the Dark Angel. "Action," indeed. --Phil Milstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 13:05:35 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: Fake Merseybeat The zine "Garage And Beat" features a recurring column by the editor called "Unifying Order Of The Universe," in which he frequently writes about these "fake Beatles" that were released on myriad LPs and knockoff 45s. One of my favorite such numbers is "You Got Me Bugged" by the Buggs, which appeared on the famous "Beetle Beat" LP (under a different title, something like "Mersey Mercy"). Unlike so many others of its ilk, it does have a killer British beat sound to it. I never understood why people actually mistook songs like "Lies" by the Knickerbockers and "New York Mining Disaster 1941" by the Bee Gees for Beatles songs in the '60s. Maybe I'm just spoiled by having been a Beatles fan for all these years, but songs like these don't sound that much like the Beatles vocally. All four Beatles individually had/have distinctive singing styles. I can figure them sounding BeatlESQUE, but from all reports, some of these songs were rumored to be BY the Fab Four, as opposed to just sounding like something they'd do... David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 16:25:37 -0500 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: re: Scopitone Questions So... does anyone have a copy of the Glories' scopitone? Would love to see that one! Ditto "Jelly Belly" by Nai Bonet, or "Animal" by the Tokens! Jeff Lemlich http://www.limestonerecords.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 21:41:54 -0000 From: Lindsay Martin Subject: Re: Johnny Madara & Dave White Mike Edwards: "Hector, The Trash Collector" was a parody of "Sadie the Cleaning Lady", written & recorded by Australian comic singer Frankie Davidson. It scraped into the Top 40 in Melbourne. Lindsay -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 18:18:06 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Kay Starr, "Ugly" Paris Sisters Brian Ferrari: > "Wheel of Fortune" - the vocal sounds like it's actually > the LaVern Baker version, but the woman in the Scopitone > is quite white. This was Kay Starr's big hit on Capitol. I know she had a pretty significant career. Can anyone shed some light on it for me, please? And is she still alive? John Frank: > I've been looking for a Paris Sisters single for a long, > long time which eludes me. I've never even heard either > song but their titles are intriguing..."Stand Naked, Clown" > b/w "The Ugliest Girl In Town"[.] > What are the songs like? Label, release year info? GNP Crescendo Records, GNP-410 (my DJ copy received August 6, 1968), "Produced by Clancy P. Grass III and Donald Peake - Arranger for Sidewalk Productions" - The Ugliest Girl in Town (wr. Greenfield-Miller) Not my favorite Paris song. Way too cute - and I'm a fan. - Stand Naked Clown (wr. Blair-Kay) Quite melodramatic, as I remember. Others may disagree, but I'd recommend this 45 for completists only. And John, Pam Dickinson's version of Carole King's "Bad Boy" (previously discussed at length) could be a slightly "kinder and gentler" Shangs. Country Paul (now only 3 digests behind) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:27:11 -0600 From: Phil Reynolds Subject: Re: Fake Merseybeat > Dan Hughes: > I think I read somewhere that the Beau Brummels did not go out > of their way to correct fans who thought they were British.... Here in Chicago, the lead singer of the Cryan Shames (Tom "Toad" Doody) spoke with a phony Liverpool accent. On their first album (recently released on CD by Sundazed), they do a semi-live version of "We Gotta Get Out of This Place" and you can hear his accent in the intro. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 12:03:39 +0400 From: Andres Jurak Subject: Re Fake Merseybeat Antonio: > Are there any other American groups who pretended to be > from England and that tried to cash in on the Merseybeat > craze that swept America in 1964?" There were two groups in the 60s - The 'American Beatles' and The 'Canadian Beatles'. I never listened to their music (alas!), but it seems that they tried to copy the Beatles sound, otherwise they wouldn't choose such names... Andres -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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