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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
                  http://www.spectropop.com/Jamie.htm
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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Faux Shangs / Sophisticated Boom Boom
           From: Mick Patrick 
      2. Re: Samantha Jones
           From: Mark Wirtz 
      3. the Raiders RULE, dude...
           From: Alan Gordon 
      4. Re: Brian Wilson
           From: Dave Marshall 
      5. Re: Tony Hatch replies in person
           From: Frank 
      6. Gentle Soul; Re-Vels; follow-ups
           From: Country Paul 
      7. Re: Meet Me At Mary's Place
           From: Ken Silverwood 
      8. Re: Where The (Goffin / King) Girls Are
           From: Mike Carter 
      9. Wayne Fontana/Simon & Garfunkel wanted
           From: Syd Kreft 
     10. Re: Brian Wilson
           From: Mary S. 
     11. Damita Jo in musica
           From: Michael Edwards 
     12. Re: Ronnie Dante/"In the Rain"
           From: Laura Pinto 
     13. Re: Tony Hatch remembers
           From: David Bell 
     14. Re: Biran Wilson
           From: David Feldman 
     15. Re: the Detergents
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     16. Gene And Tommy
           From: Patrick Rands 
     17. Hanging with Brian Wilson
           From: Steve Harvey 
     18. Re: Faux Shangs: Robertha Williams sings Lou Reed
           From: S'pop Team 
     19. Getting ready for Tony Hatch
           From: Michael Edwards 
     20. Lou Reed at Pickwick
           From: Andrew Jones 
     21. Raider music!
           From: Mike Edwards 
     22. Re: Lou Reed at Pickwick
           From: Phil Milstein 
     23. Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop update
           From: Martin Roberts 
     24. Re:  The Unknowns
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     25. The Liquid Room 3/16/03
           From: David Ponak 


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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 00:29:41 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Faux Shangs / Sophisticated Boom Boom Martin Roberts: > ...one 45 that HAS to be on any Shangri Las tribute list is > Robertha Williams' "Tell Mama Not To Cry" Uptown 707. Agreed - *top* Shangsalike! Although not as part of this new thread, this great track has been much discussed here at planet S'pop. Newcomers should search the archives for messages #6936, #6903, #6898, #6895 and #6894. Just go to the members page, click on messages, enter the numbers in the required box, click again and voila! Pekka Johansson: > ...the Pussycats' excellent song "The Rider"... In my opinion, > this is by far the best among their releases - one of those > wonderful records that sound more like the Shangri-Las than > the Shangri-Las themselves. Absolutely - more like the Shangs than the Shangs. But I do prefer "I Want Your Love". Are these the same Pussycats that waxed for Bert Berns' Keetch logo? By the way, Berns named this label after his pet pussycat. Trivial? Moi? Which reminds me, this fantastic track was just one of many great chunes spun by Naimh (OK, I might be of Irish heritage but I'm still unsure how to spell this name!), the groovy DJ at last Saturday's Sophisticated Boom Boom club night. Nice venue, the Water Rats. Resplendent in "Lightning Strikes" earrings and go-go boots, and blissfully oblivious of the record execs in the audience, S'pop's very own Elisabeth took to the stage with "That's How It Goes", "The Bubble Broke" and, as a special surprise for yours truly, a great version of Lou Christie's "Trapeze". I was a bit gobsmacked! Crikey, the place was packed. The word is obviously out. As usual, the Actionettes were a blizzard of glitter. Shame I can't quite remember exactly how I got back to my little palace. Click here to read more and see some pix of the event: http://hiptoyou.blogspot.com/ MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 01:46:19 -0000 From: Mark Wirtz Subject: Re: Samantha Jones Norman: > I picked up a Samantha Jones's "A Girl Named Sam" LP at a local thrift shop > a week ago. Stereo SPFL- 933987 (PELS 501) Penny Farthing Records (released > through Festival Records, Australia). Arranged and Produced by Mark Wirtz. I > would appreciate any further info on this artist. > > Thanks Mark for such a great job. I played side 2 first because I recognised > the track "Do I Figure In Your Life" by Mark Dello. The arrangement sent me > through the wall backwards! A great piece. > > I played the rest of the album through and my ears pricked up on "Taking The > Heart Out of Love" a song I never recognised so I read the writers credits > and saw that it was Mark Dello again. These songs must have been a joy and a > challenge to work with. Hey, Norman, I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed Sam's LP so much. She was a firecracker and a delight to work with. A total pro. And so sexy, she would give me chills, especially during the vocal sessions. It so happens that I personally believe that my "Today Without You" single recording with Sam was the best "pure pop" record I ever produced. By the way, if you're a Sam Jones fan, check out rpm/cherry red record's recent two CD comp package. It's quite excellent. Did you know Sam is still active and performing (mostly on cruise ships these days)? Yeah, you go girl! > Re: Mark Dello... I absolutely LOVED Dello's stuff (still do), and I picked the two Dello songs for Sam's LP before any other (and that includes my own songs for her!). I understand that rpm/cherry red records are in the process of putting together a Pete Dello comp, and, unless my informer lied to me, ace sonic wizard Phil Chapman contributed his talents to the project in some significant fashion. Hope to make it down there sometime and say hello to you Aussies! Thanks again for your enthusiasm. Very best, mark wirtz -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 18:00:26 -0800 From: Alan Gordon Subject: the Raiders RULE, dude... Country Paul said: > Paul Revere and the Raiders were not the kind of seminal influences I'd wish > to see there... No way?!! This must be another "Country Paul!" Until just this very second, I had the absolute highest regard for your insightful opinions... no more... all gone... never again... In this blinding light of mis-reason, those opinions have taken their rightful place in that ether of the musical netherlands... They float aimless, lost in that cosmic melodically-absent void. My gawd... choke< how could you say that??? Gimmie a sec to quit shaking and wipe my eyes... I think these Raider-guys are one of the (if not "the") quintessential garage bands. Their first couple of albums, and the cool double cd set "reissue" of the first album with all the extra goodies (Mojo Workout!) just wreck my mind, man. Mark's voice is truly one of the best blue-eyed-soul-screamin'-rockin'- type-dude's voices there ever was. 'Course after that early stuff, they became "just" a really great pop band similar to The Grassroots, later Animals, and the like. > I feel there are far more deserving artists who truly pioneered areas of the > music... Honestly, I thought the inductees where just supposed to be plain ol' "real good." Not necessarily "pioneers." peace, albabe PS: I have it from the best source that there is soon to be a Beau Brummels Complete Rhino Handmade collection. PPS: Also, I don't have them, but I understand there are two new Boyce and Hart cds, supposedly collecting everything from their musical output. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 23:49:53 -0500 From: Dave Marshall Subject: Re: Brian Wilson Out of lurker status for this discussion. I have seen BW's solo show on three different tours now. There has been vocal improvement in my opinion. While it is clear that this is not 1967 BW vocals, the shows have been extremely enjoyable. I have had mixed feelings about Brian's touring. You might say guilt for enjoying them as much as I have and a bit of worry because of the wonderings of what BW is getting out of them. But I am told by David Leaf and others that he is enjoying them. It is clear that Brian while not Macca or the Rolling Stones on tour is back on the scene. He is a presence again. In any case, I am can't say whether he should be hold up in LA with his memories or out on the road making music and relying on teleprompters. Vocals be damned. God Bless Brian Wilson. dave marshall -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 07:40:01 +0100 From: Frank Subject: Re: Tony Hatch replies in person Mick Patrick: > ...My question and answer session with Tony Hatch is ongoing, if > anyone has anything specific they'd like me to ask him. (I've > already asked him about the "Don't Sh*t In The Custard" story). Mick, could you ask him about his work with Buddy Greco when he was recording in the UK ? Thanks a lot. Frank -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 02:06:30 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Gentle Soul; Re-Vels; follow-ups Just received The Gentle Soul CD from Sundazed, and I'm a happy (ex-)hippie. Great liner notes and pictures, too. It's a treat to have my favorite GS songs in stereo - 03 of the 4 sides of the 45's, previously only in mono. (The amazing "Tell Me Love" even is presented in an alternate version; the fourth 45 side, the vocally adventurous "Young Man Blue," was on the Epic LP.) I think I like the mono mix of my favorite GS track, "Our National Anthem," better, but it's a relatively minor quibble. The stereo mix really opens up the exquisite "Song For Three." There's a previously unreleased track, "Flying Thing," written by Jackson Browne (who was a fill-in member of the group), which is also really sweet, and stylistically related to "Song for Three." How they avoided having at least a hit or two still eludes me. I recently acquired the Re-vels (a/k/a Revels) CD (Grand Prix KX-10, 1985, mfg. in France). I hadn't realized that "False Alarm" on Checker and "Midnight Stroll" on Norgolde (one of my favorite slow doo-wops, c. 1960) were by the same group; they span the period of old-time close-harmony to soul with some solid stops in-between. I wish there were some liner notes to explain their journey. Interestingly, with all that's going on in the world today, one of the apparent follow-ups to "Midnight Stroll" (judging by the group's sound and production) is an anti-war (actually anti-nuke) song, "Two Little Monkeys." In addition to from the excellent vocal harmonies, this is well worth checking out for its clever lyrics carrying an unusual message for early 60's pop-soul. Mike Edwards mentions some B.T. Puppy releases: > Brute Force Extemporaneous Some tracks are now on a CD available at www.brutesforce.com. > United States Double Quartet Life Is Groovy I actually saw a copy of the album once, and own the title 45 which is very good. The USDQ was, for those who don't know, the Tokens and the Kirby Stone Four. To the Tokens' producing credit, both groups are highly identifyable and complementary. Although the lyrics are somewhat dated, the sound still astounds. > "Why Am I So Shy" Chiffons, Three Pennies [same group?] I believe the Chiffons and FOUR Pennies ("My Block," Rust) were the same group, so it's possible. Albabe, I was obviously misinformed as to the extent of Sir Paul's formal musical education. Listening is indeed a wonderful teacher, and in my opinion Sir Paul learned his lessons well. (By the way, I too was a music major in college. Learned a lot - including how hard it was to loosen certain musical rules they taught and get back into the feeling.) Andrew Sandoval: > Re: Coronados...Parliament There was at least one very fine 45 on Parliament (not the same company as the classical label): a version of "Johnny B. Goode!" Think of the Sandpipers' "Louie Louie"; that would be close. David Coyle, thanks for the tribute to Eugene Mumford. What a voice - and "Stardust" was indeed as deep as "Deep Purple." (Couldn't resist the pun....) Me: > Richard Williams, Bruce's "Havin' A Party" is actually another Sam Cooke > song, recorded (I think with Lou Rawls doing the duet) on RCA. Richard: > Wasn't "Bring It On Home To Me" the duet referred to? I need to dig in the corners of the collection again. You're right about "Bring." I thought I remembered a second voice on one chorus of "Party," but I could be wrong. Gotta stop posting at 2:00 AM - like I'm doing now! Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 09:52:58 -0000 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Re: Meet Me At Mary's Place My reading of the thought behind "Meet me At Mary's Place" leads me to the conclusion they are going there for a *wake*, a dance not to forget but to remember. As Richard Williams said " I Gotta Dance To Keep From Crying", but here I believe it's not just for lost love.He re-iterates the fact that he is "Dancing With Tears In His Eyes" by repeating over & over again *let it rain ,let it rain, letit rain, let it rain * to mask those tears.Well that's what I feel when listening to the track. Ken On The West Coast (55 tomorrow) Still Only As Old As David Bowie, Elton John & Stevie Wonder. ----- Original Message ----- From: Teri Landi To: spectropop@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 5:36 AM Subject: Spectropop - Re: Meet Me At Mary's Place Previously: > Haven't heard the Springsteen version, but I read > somewhere when the CD first came out that "Mary's > Place" is either a ripoff or rewrite (depending on > who you ask) of Sam Cooke's "Meet Me At Mary's Place", > recorded for his SAR label in the early '60s. Sam's "Meet Me At Mary's Place" was actually recorded for RCA, not SAR, and released on Sam's final studio LP Ain't That Good News in 1964 and as a single two years after his death. It can be found on Abkco's Keep Movin' On CD. Teri Yahoo! Groups Sponsor http://www.spectropop.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Jamie LePage (1953-2002) http://www.spectropop.com/Jamie.htm Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. End

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