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Spectropop - Digest Number 827

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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)


There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Where The Girls Are / Bernadette Peters
           From: Mick Patrick 
      2. macca wacca... my last halfpenny
           From: Alan Gordon 
      3. Re: Canterbury Music Festival
           From: Country Paul 
      4. Re: Coronados
           From: Andrew Sandoval 
      5. Re: Tony Hatch
           From: David Feldman 
      6. Re: Canterbury Music Festival
           From: Roland 
      7. Re:Tony Hatch
           From: Guy Lawrence 
      8. Re: Tony Hatch
           From: Paul Richards 
      9. Re: Faux Shangs: Brenda Hall
           From: Mick Patrick 
     10. "Live at Disneyland"
           From: Rex Strother 
     11. Re: B T Puppy Records
           From: David Bell 
     12. Re: Sam Cooke songs
           From: Richard Williams 

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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:50:39 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Where The Girls Are / Bernadette Peters The S'pop Team: > New at S'pop Recommends - Where The Girls Are, Volume 5 "A CD that > has clearly set the standard for girl group compilations to come?" > Why, Miss Sheila B must surely be referring to the latest addition > to the "Where The Girls Are" series! It appears she quite likes it. > Click here to find out why: Mark Frumento: > I was pretty well stunned by the number of great tunes on this set. I > kind of figured that the WTGA series would run out of steam at some > point. Not! I think Vol 5 just may will be my favorite so far. The > review points out most of the highlights but what attracted me is the > "big" sound of the tracks. The two opening tracks by the Pussycats > are practically straight rock 'n roll. The force of the first 5 tracks > is only stopped by limboing Doris Day. So here's my review: any CD > that has a Bernadette Peters track that gets my attention is worth > buying (saying so with all due respect to Bernadette Peters' fans). > And yes, the cover is amazing. You like it, huh? Don't fret, I have plenty of steam left. In fact, the next volume is already compiled! Unlike in your country, the fame of Bernadette Peters as a Broadway diva and movie actress never really spread to Blighty. I, for one, was a fan of her sixties girly records before I even knew of her later career. Not that that would've put me off. "Academy Award", "We'll Start The Party Again", "The Trouble With Me Is You", "Will You Care What's Hap'nin' To Me, Baby" - love 'em all! Any hope of converting you, Mark? MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:08:01 -0800 From: Alan Gordon Subject: macca wacca... my last halfpenny Country Paul: > My quick 2 cents on McCartney's bass playing: Unlike the > other Beatles, McCartney started as a schooled musician. With all due respect to Country Paul's incredibly vast knowledge of many things musical, I'm not sure if I would consider learning trumpet in a "grammar" school, being "schooled" in music. That would be like dissecting a frog in class and being classified a biologist. I assume all of what Paul really learned was to roughly read a lead/single line. That's not, in my estimation, being "schooled" in music. I have a few years of Theory, Musicianship, Harmony, etc. and I have a hard time considering myself "schooled". But that's just me. Most of the musicians I know that have the best sight-reading chops, have the most trouble with being spontaneous, and I think being spontaneous is where a lot of the best ideas come from. As a friend of mine termed it: Accident as Art. But I also think Paul was eminently aware of the way music sounded. He probably listened to virtually everything, which opened his doors of perception to a lot of experimentation and mimicry. And mimicry can be a great thing if you have a solid base from which to use it. Paul has said that "Got To Get You Into My Life" (I think that was the toon(?)) was his trying to be Motown. In my mind, not too Motown. But what a fantastic soulful song. And then there's Earth, Wind and Fire's version... amazing. I was once told that I must be a good public speaker because I wrote such natural sounding dialogue. nonsense... I'm a good listener. albabe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:16:28 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Re: Canterbury Music Festival A little more web research led to,,2487810,00.html?artist=The+Canterbury+Music+Festival, which has 30-second samples on-line; haven't heard if the links work yet. (Be sure the entire URL is on one line.) A bit of new info at they had 3 45's as well as an LP. And of all things, here's a review: (scroll down a couple of entries), with an e-mail to order a CD version! Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:26:00 EST From: Andrew Sandoval Subject: Re: Coronados Does anyone have any info on the Coronados? Here's what I know: They were a Latino trio (a brother and sister, plus a friend) that issued a soft pop album on Jubilee in 1969 called Hey Love. They may have also recorded for Bright Star, Parliament, Four Corners, Purdy and Todd. Any additional info would be most appreciated. Thanks, Andrew Sandoval -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:00:43 -0500 From: David Feldman Subject: Re: Tony Hatch Mick Patrick said: > As you might know, I am presently embroiled in interviewing > the great man for a forthcoming S'pop feature. Here's a > taster of what he told me about the creation of "Downtown": "Downtown" made an indelible impression on me, but it was really the subsequent ballad singles ("You'd Better Come Home", "Don't Sleep in the Subway," "The Cat in the Window" and the upbeat in tempo but relentlessly downbeat in mood "Who Am I") that made the biggest impression. Even as an addled teenager, I realized that these were songs written by an adult for adults, and yet they connected strongly with me and do so now. If I could ask Tony Hatch anything, it would be if in the early/ mid-60s, he saw himself as a tunesmith in the Brill Building mode. His songs are so personal, so mature and pessimistic, that it's hard to believe that he was "churning 'em out." I don't think Pet Clark and especially Tony Hatch get the respect on this side of the Atlantic that they deserve and I can't wait to read your interview. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:43:13 EST From: Roland Subject: Re: Canterbury Music Festival The CD is available from: The CD is rather short, 11 tracks plus one bonus track and much of the material sounds like demos. It seems like BT Puppy just threw the LP together with whatever material they had available. The best track is "First Spring Rain" which should have been a hit and perhaps was a regional one since there was even a cover version by a midwest garage band. I don't really hear The Association in their sound. I'd compare them more to bands like the Boys Next Door or The Trolls, just good sixties harmony pop. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 20:08:42 -0000 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re:Tony Hatch David wrote: > "Downtown" made an indelible impression on me, but it was really > the subsequent ballad singles ("You'd Better Come Home", "Don't > Sleep in the Subway," "The Cat in the Window" and the upbeat in > tempo but relentlessly downbeat in mood "Who Am I") that made > the biggest impression. Even as an addled teenager, I realized > that these were songs written by an adult for adults... Or, in the case of "Cat In The Window" written by adults. The song was written by Bonner and Gordon not Tony Hatch. Returning to an earlier thread, was there an American "original" of this track? Nice song either way and while I'm here can I too thank Justin for his wonderful "Downtown" imagery. Guy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 18:07:50 EST From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Tony Hatch I also love Pet's "Who am I", "Colour my World", "Don't Give Up", "I Want to Sing with your Band" & "American Boys" are also favourites of mine. I agree, Tony Hatch is very underrated, as well as Petula. I love the Hatch/Trent songs by The Montanas ("You Got to be Loved", "Step in the Right Direction", "Run to Me"), The Settlers("Major to Minor"), Two of Each ("Summer of our Love", "Trinity Street"). I also love that fantastic track he wrote & produced called "Beautiful in the Rain".One of the all time greats. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:24:41 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Faux Shangs: Brenda Hall John Frank said: > In my not-so-humble opinion, of all the inhabitants of Girl > Group Planet, The Shangri-las reign. Spector and Motown both > spawned a lot of "copycat" singles -- releases that took the > sound as a jumping-off point and tried to make a reasonable > fascimile, resulting in a lot of great music (and a lot of > crap). The Shangri-las, too, spawned copycat records that > tried to capture the melodrama and sometimes the attitude of > the Shangs. I'm listing some I've identified, and would > welcome more! I'm particularly interested in original songs > ('60s vintage only, please), but am also accumulating a > listing of covers, parodies and answer songs... Help, please? I didn't see Brenda Hall's "Oh Eddy, My Baby" on your list. It's a very excellent Shangs-inspired platter, if you ask me. Released on Loma 2020 in (natch) 1965, the disc was produced by the great Bucky Wilkin (aka Ronny of the Daytonas) who also co-wrote the song with his regular cohort Buzz Cason. Here's the gist: Brenda and Eddy are lovers. Everyone says he's no good. But he's good to her. They've been to a late night party. He drops her off a block from her street so that her mom and dad don't see, then speeds off on his hog in a cloud of dust. The sound of screaming tyres can be heard in the distance... I've posted the track to musica, so all you need to find out if Brenda ever see Eddy alive again is click here: Must dash, I have an urgent appointment at the candy store. MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:36:39 -0700 From: Rex Strother Subject: "Live at Disneyland" Once again - brains must be picked! P.S. the Superman list is still coming together; and it's HUGE. I've compiled 136 different "Superman-titled" songs so far! But my new query is this: My aunt, in the early 1960s, put out a 45 on Buena Vista Records titled "Scream Along (With the Monster)", Kay Bell and the Spacemen (Live at Disneyland). Did Buena Vista Records put out other "Live at Disneyland" 45s? Is there a compilation of these somewhere? If not, why not? (that would be final question) Help? (ooops, I was wrong) Rex Strother -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:40:56 EST From: David Bell Subject: Re: B T Puppy Records Well, the only BT Puppy titles I have are both by the Chiffons. The album 'My Secret Love" has a dreadful cover and it's very short in length. However, the songs are tremendous and Judy and Sylvia sing wonderfully well. My copy is Australian and it cost me an arm and a leg! When I showed Judy my copy on the Bobby Vee tour earlier this year, she had only ever seen one copy previously and that was Ian's copy the previous week. I also have their single "My Secret Love"/"Strange Strange Feeling" a perennial Chiffons' b- side. This one is Italian and features the same awful cover shot. Someone should update the Chiffons' CD released by Ace 10 or more years ago. How about it, Mick? They deserve a new anthology to include "Love Me (Like You're Gonna Lose Me)". David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:36:18 +0000 From: Richard Williams Subject: Re: Sam Cooke songs Country Paul wrote: > And, Richard Williams, Bruce's "Havin' A Party" is actually another > Sam Cooke song, recorded (I think with Lou Rawls doing the duet) on RCA. Wasn't "Bring It On Home To Me" the duet referred to? Richard Williams -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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