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Spectropop - Digest Number 822



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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Nino Tempo Interview
           From: S'pop Team 
      2. Re: Ann Sidney; Requiem; Faux Shangs
           From: John Frank 
      3. Beatlettes (or Shangri-Las?)
           From: Andres Jurak 
      4. Re: Tom Courtenay
           From: Michael Robson 
      5. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
           From: Larry Lapka 
      6. Re: Call Me
           From: Michael Robson 
      7. Re: Faux Shangs: The Wild Angels
           From: Mick Patrick 
      8. Re: Organs R Us
           From: Artie Wayne 
      9. Re: Nino Tempo Interview
           From: Mary S. 
     10. re: Downtown
           From: Justin McDevitt@weisman.com
     11. Re: Round Robin
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     12. Scrooey Mooey
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     13. Re: Scrooey Mooey Hooey
           From: Mick Patrick 
     14. Re: R. Dean Taylor's "Lady Bug Stay Away From The Beatle Bug"
           From: John "The Boy From Xtown" Lester 
     15. Gary and the Hornets
           From: martygoes4it 
     16. Re: Downtown
           From: Richard Havers 
     17. Re: Downtown
           From: Mick Patrick 
     18. Re: Nino Tempo Interview
           From: Allen (Smokey) Roberds 
     19. Re: Gary and the Hornets
           From: Fredric Cooper 
     20. Re: Gary and the Hornets
           From: Steve Harvey 
     21. "Always Something There To Remind Me"
           From: Andrew Jones 


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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:07:34 -0000 From: S'pop Team Subject: Nino Tempo Interview Original message from Mary S: > Who was it on this board who said he would put the > interview he did with Nino Tempo (for a Japanese > magazine) somewhere on the web, and would inform > us when he had done so so we could read it? > I'd enjoy being able to read it. Hello Mary and anyone else with an interest in Nino Tempo, S'pop's very own Bill Reed is the person who interviewed the one and only Nino Tempo. The very good news is that we have asked Bill if S'pop can publish the piece. The even better news is that he has agreed. Your Team have already begun work on preparing the interview for internet publication. Watch this space for a further announcement. Regards, The S'pop Team Spectropop - Spectacular! Retro! Pop! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:34:27 -0800 From: John Frank Subject: Re: Ann Sidney; Requiem; Faux Shangs Thanks, Ian, for the great info on Ann Sidney! I never would have guessed. But I suppose if I had *really thought* about it, what could she have done after "Woolly Sweater" BUT to become Miss World? What more was left for her?! By the way, I'm glad you've changed your estimation of this fine song, but actually, I think it was your bad review that led me to hunt for it in the first place. It's good-dreadful, but not evil. Thanks, too, for playing "Requiem (...)" to musica. It will be a great addition to the "Faux Shangri-las" comp I'm working on. And, you, by helping me, have earned yourself a copy of it if it ever comes to fruition. But it never will if I don't get more songs! A couple weeks ago I posted a plea for 60s Shangri-las "copycat" records, and garnered exactly two, both of which I hadn't previously known of. That brings my total to 13 -- "Is that all there is?". I'd like not to rely on covers or parodies or tributes -- but will if I need to. Anyone who helps me out will get a copy of the compilation if he or she wants it. By the way, I just got a homemade CD from someone that included Debra Swisher's version of "You're So Good To Me." This is the best discovery I've had for a long time! Beach Boys meet the Pixies Three -- 5 stars! John -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:09:55 -0000 From: Andres Jurak Subject: Beatlettes (or Shangri-Las?) Phil Chapman wrote Tue May 7, 2002 >And what about some of the girlie 'tributes' to the fab four?:... >Beatlettes - Dance Beatle Dance Spector Collector wrote Mon Nov 5, 2001 >Peter Lerner asked about The Bon Bons...I've heard before that >there was supposedly some Shangri-Las involvement, but I don't >believe that's been confirmed, has it?... I know at least 3 'tributes' to the fab four by the Beatlettes - -Dance Beatle Dance -Yes You Can Hold My Hand -Only Seventeen Strangely enough the latter song is rumoured to be recorded by the the Shangri-Las in fact. There are some other recordings in existence that some attribute to the Weiss and Ganser sisters, but it is unclear who really did them: the Shangri-Las' Wishing Well on Spokane and What's Wrong With Ringo? by the Bon Bons. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:37:07 -0000 From: Michael Robson Subject: Re: Tom Courtenay "Mrs Brown you've got a lovely daughter" (Decca 45, F11729) certainly wasn't featured in the film "Billy Liar".....it's featured (along with the B-side, "knocking on the door") in the ATV production of "The Lads" from 1963. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:11:03 -0000 From: Larry Lapka Subject: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame When the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame came into being, I thought it was a great idea. Through the years, I have gone the other way, simply because it has become a place where snobbery is the name of the game. Things have come full circle; in the 1950s, didn't the "proper" music establishment thumb their elite noses at rock and roll? Now, rockers thumb their noses at their bretheren. Who would have thought it would come to this? For the life of me, I don't know why the following performers are not in the Hall of Fame, but I think it is a bit of elitist snobbery. All were influential (that's one bit of criteria that the Hall supposedly looks for), and just because they were ultra- successful, why should they not have their place there? Neil Diamond Dave Clark Five Moody Blues Monkees (that's right - ask Tom Petty why he got into the music business) Michael Nesmith (you don't want the Monkees, then at least have this guy in there) Paul Revere and the Raiders Petula Clark Cliff Richard Connie Francis I could go on and on. I seriously doubt that any of these will ever go in, but their influence is still being felt today. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Larry Lapka -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:54:01 -0000 From: Michael Robson Subject: Re: Call Me Before returning to her cuticles, the lovely Amber enquired: > ...can one of my S'pop buddies tell me who did the original > version of "Call Me"? Aah, I remember it well, February 1966. > Chris Montez was such a dreamboat, don'cha think? Joey tells > me it was a British song. Surely not?! It is a British song - written by Tony Hatch, the original is probably Petula Clark's version from 1965. It's been covered hundreds of times over the years; other versions of particular note are Jackie DeShannon's and Lulu's uptempo version. MICHAEL CLUNKIE VINYL JUNKIE -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:21:00 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Faux Shangs: The Wild Angels John Frank wrote: > Greetings to Spectropop! I was off-line for about a year and return > to find the nice little mailing list has become a cultural phenomenon! > In a place where terms like "Lesley Duncan," "Mina", "Ginny Arnell," > "Nino Tempo", and "Tracey Dey" are casually bandied about, I know I'm > home! Nice to be back. > > In my not-so-humble opinion, of all the inhabitants of Girl Group > Planet, The Shangri-las reign. Spector and Motown both spawned a lot > of "copycat" singles -- releases that took the sound as a jumping-off > point and tried to make a reasonable fascimile, resulting in a lot of > great music (and a lot of crap). The Shangri-las, too, spawned copycat > records that tried to capture the melodrama and sometimes the attitude > of the Shangs... I'd like to track them down... I'm particularly > interested in original songs ('60s vintage only, please), but am also > accumulating a listing of covers, parodies and answer songs. > Help, please? Yo Frankie, welcome back to S'pop. Where y'been? Agreed, the Shangs rule. There are many faux Shangs discs out there worth searching for. In fact, it's an area I specialise in, to some extent. Unfortunately, I've never made a list of such records, so finding them in my collection could take more than a minute. However, are you aware of a girl group called the Wild Angels? They didn't just sound like the Shangs, they looked like them too. You should see the picture I have in front of me at the moment. All four of them in matching leopard print pant suits and ruffled shirts! The group were formed in 1965 in Hicksville, Long Island - hometown of not only Ellie Greenwich but also Shadow Morton. Small wonder the Shangri-Las were the Wild Angels' role models. The group cut four songs for Frog Records in 1966 but it was thirty years before the label released the tracks on the LP "The Wild Angels" (Frog/ Distortions DR 1029). The long-player also contains songs the girls recorded in 1967 as the Sassy Ones and the Renaissance. Allow me to quote a few lines from the album cover: "Some surface noise is noticeable on the above selections where the master tapes could not be located. In this case, the most scratched, worn out acetates have been used for your listening pleasure." There, you have been warned! Posted to musica: The Wild Angels - "Sweetness" From a four track acetate recorded at Dynamic Sound Studios, Hicksville, New York, early 1966. Great Shangri-Las soundalike but less than excellent sound quality. Click here to hear it: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/ As you will hear, while lead singer Vivian Perna was a top Mary Weiss wannabe, and her cohorts were clearly in thrall of the Ganser twins, their producer Joe Buser was no match for George Francis Morton. Still, this is one of my absolute favourite faux Shangs discs. The above mentioned album has excellent sleevenotes telling the full story of the group. It's well worth searching for. I can't remember where I found mine, probably from a vendor specialising in garage bands, rather than some girl group maven. I smell raisin pancakes, gotta fly... MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 06:56:57 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Organs R Us Rashkovsky: > Of course the most interesting instrument at Allegro was > the subway noise passing through the floor into the studio. Mike........You're right!!! It all comes back to me......it wasn't an Ondioline I was playing ....it was the "D" train!!!! regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:43:40 -0000 From: Mary S. Subject: Re: Nino Tempo Interview Team S'pop: > Hello Mary and anyone else with an interest in Nino Tempo, S'pop's > very own Bill Reed is the person who interviewed the one and only > Nino Tempo. The very good news is that we have asked Bill if S'pop > can publish the piece. The even better news is that he has agreed. > Your Team have already begun work on preparing the interview for > internet publication. Watch this space for a further announcement. WOW! Thanks so much! I will certainly be looking forward to reading the interview of this very much underrated musician, singer and actor! Mary S. P.S. Did any of you know that Nino did voices for characters in "Garfield" movies (about the cartoon cat). I personally don't care for the Garfield character, but I was glad that NT got some work that was probably a lot of fun for him. I found this information somewhere on the Internet, not on the N&A website. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:20:50 -0600 From: Justin McDevitt@weisman.com Subject: re: Downtown Steve Harvey wrote: > "Downtown" never came off depressing to me. It always seemed full of > life and hope. I always assumed that Petula was singing to someone > else who was depressed an trying to get them up on their feet again. Great sentiments from a Philly guy. Steve, we're on the same page! Musically, "Downtown" to me is a well-produced, relatively sophisticated, up-tempo pop/rock gem that well represents what I believe was referred as the "London sound". I first heard it as a soon to be adolescent in late November 1964. Although at this point in my life, I wasn't frequenting the local adult watering holes, I recognized that Petula was singing to me as well. She was saying; take some risks, get out of whatever rut you're in, meet some new people. To some extent I could apply this to my own life at that time, though more often than not, when I listened to "Downtown", I pictured myself as an early 20-something guy in swinging London, at some minor job in an accounting firm who decides to step out, visit Carnaby Street, buy some new threads, etc. This is what the song brought to mind, and still does, for that matter. Justin P.s. to Steve: though I never saw Springsteen at the Main Point, I did see the great Canadian folk artist Stan Rogers, as well as Steve Goodman, (one of Chicago's finest), and I'm not talking about cops. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:41:41 -0000 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re: Round Robin Hi Ian, thanks for the Round Robin info. I don't have that track - "Little People" - could you tell me the writers? Thanks again, Guy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:03:52 -0000 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Scrooey Mooey I've had a few PC problems over the last year and have lost several saved Emails. I've just remembered that about a year ago I promised to send someone a copy of "Scrooey Mooey" by the Peels. Is that member still out there waiting? If so, I do apologise and please get in touch! Guy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:21:55 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Scrooey Mooey Hooey Guy Lawrence: > I've had a few PC problems over the last year and have lost several > saved Emails. I've just remembered that about a year ago I promised > to send someone a copy of "Scrooey Mooey" by the Peels. Is that > member still out there waiting? If so, I do apologise and please get > in touch! Hi Guy, No, I'm not the person to whom you promised a copy of "Scrooey Mooey". I'm the one who's been waiting for the sealed Tamla copy of the Marvelettes' "Sing The hits Of '62" LP. Remember? No? Oh dear, your pesky PC must've "lost" my e-mail. Well, consider yourself reminded. You have my address, yes? No rush. Any time within the next 48 hours will do fine. You will pack it nicely, won't you? Thanks in advance, MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:22:13 -0000 From: John "The Boy From Xtown" Lester Subject: Re: R. Dean Taylor's "Lady Bug Stay Away From The Beatle Bug" John Lester wrote (Fri Jan 11, 2002): > ...last two tracks on that R Dean Taylor compilation. I really > liked Lady Bug.......and I tried to get it on cos it was > scheduled as a 45 release on VIP with Don't Fool Around....I was > really pleased to get it. Andres: > Could anybody tell me the year of release for MY LADY BUG STAY > AWAY FROM THAT BEATLE? John Lester replies: 1964... but it was never actually released...........VIP label copies were all put together, showing the catalogue number but it never happened. The flip side was intended as "Poor Girl". -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:24:52 -0000 From: martygoes4it Subject: Gary and the Hornets I know I'm really showing my age, but I remember a brother pop group from the sixties called Gary and the Hornets when I was a kid. I still have a very beat up copy of Hi Hi Hazel on 45. I also remember them making and apperance on the Johnny Carson show and in an Oscar Meyer hot dog commerical. Can anyone give me any information on them, like where are they now? Thanks -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:31:20 +0000 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: Downtown Justin McDevitt wrote: > when I listened to "Downtown", I pictured myself as an early > 20-something guy in swinging London, at some minor job in an > accounting firm who decides to step out, visit Carnaby Street, > buy some new threads, etc. This is what the song brought to mind, > and still does, for that matter. Great imagery Justin......I just played it and you're dead right! There is a very comprehensive Pet Clark web site at: http://www.petulaclark.net There is a wonderful picture of her on the home page.....I had forgotten how gorgeous she was! Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:55:03 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Downtown Justin McDevitt: > ...when I listened to "Downtown", I pictured myself as an early > 20-something guy in swinging London, at some minor job in an > accounting firm who decides to step out, visit Carnaby Street, > buy some new threads, etc. This is what the song brought to mind, > and still does, for that matter. Hi Justin, Great message, thank you. It's interesting that "Downtown" should conjure up images of Swinging London for you, because that was not what Tony Hatch had in mind at all when he wrote this unforgettable classic. As you might know, I am presently embroiled in interviewing the great man for a forthcoming S'pop feature. Here's a taster of what he told me about the creation of "Downtown": "I made my first trip to New York in the autumn of 1964. It was this visit that inspired me to write DOWNTOWN. It isn't true that I wrote it for Julie Grant. When I first came up with the idea I never envisaged a girl singing the song. I was actually thinking it might be good for Ben E King. After my trip to New York I came back to London with songs from US publishers, then took them with me to see Petula Clark in Paris in order to fix her next session. I hadn't written anything specifically for her. She listened to the songs not written by me and, being pretty underwhelmed, then asked if I had written anything new to play her. I don't know what I was thinking at the time but, being a bit desperate, I played her the "Downtown" idea, still only at the conception state. She loved it immediately and said 'That's the song I want to record. Just make sure the lyrics are as good as the tune.' So history was written!" MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:18:54 -0800 (PST) From: Allen (Smokey) Roberds Subject: Re: Nino Tempo Interview The S'pop Team: > Hello Mary and anyone else with an interest in Nino Tempo, S'pop's > very own Bill Reed is the person who interviewed the one and only > Nino Tempo. The very good news is that we have asked Bill if S'pop > can publish the piece. The even better news is that he has agreed. > Your Team have already begun work on preparing the interview for > internet publication. Watch this space for a further announcement. Mary S: > WOW! Thanks so much! I will certainly be looking forward to reading > the interview of this very much underrated musician, singer and actor! Fantastic! I look forward to catching up on Nino. Knew him when we were at A&M Records, as in the sixties. -Smokey Roberds -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:42:30 -0800 From: Fredric Cooper Subject: Re: Gary and the Hornets martygoes4it: > I know I'm really showing my age, but I remember a brother pop group > from the sixties called Gary and the Hornets when I was a kid. I > still have a very beat up copy of Hi Hi Hazel on 45. I also remember > them making and apperance on the Johnny Carson show and in an Oscar > Meyer hot dog commerical. Can anyone give me any information on them, > like where are they now? Thanks Hi, I discovered Gary & The Hornets by way of the band BIG STAR. They covered the Gary & The Hornets B-side "Patty Girl". I found a copy a few years ago. G & T H had at least one other single (with a picture sleeve), the title of which I don't know. Fred Cooper -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:45:51 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Gary and the Hornets I seem to recall them from the glory days of 16 Magazine. Wasn't one of Gary & the Hornets somebody famous' kid? Mickey Rooney or someone like that? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 01:24:40 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Jones Subject: "Always Something There To Remind Me" Back in the 1980s, the British synth duo Naked Eyes had a big US hit with their version of Bacharach-David's "Always Something There To Remind Me." One time, the radio show "American Top 40" played Naked Eyes' version, and snippets of three previous versions - one by Lou Johnson, one by Sandie Shaw, and one by Dionne Warwick. I have the Shaw and Warwick versions, but I've never heard the complete Johnson version. Has anyone? Is it worth my seeking out? Thanks. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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