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Spectropop - Digest Number 813



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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 22 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop update
           From: Martin Roberts 
      2. The music on musica; Brian's productions; [Canadian] Esquires; more
           From: Country Paul 
      3. Re: Spiral Starecase
           From: James Botticelli 
      4. Re: Nanker Phelge
           From: Steve Harvey 
      5. Soul & Inspiration; a few seminal records
           From: Country Paul 
      6. Re: Suzie Creamcheese' conscience call
           From: TD 
      7. Re: 4 Seasons On E-Bay
           From: Stuart Robertson 
      8. Re: Cuff Links /  Ronnie Dante
           From: Dan Hughes 
      9. Re:  Ask the Count 5
           From: Paul Lewis 
     10. The Metropolitan Soul Show
           From: Mike Edwards 
     11. Re: Bob Rashkow's Top 10
           From: Mike Edwards 
     12. Nanker Phelge
           From: Eddy Smit 
     13. Ann Sidney; Ellie Janov; phone songs; Lincoln Chase; Gene Pitney
           From: Country Paul 
     14. 4 Seasons on Alanna
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
     15. The Hooven-Winn-Smith axis
           From: Charles G. Hill 
     16. "More Today Than Yesterday" in musica
           From: Michael Edwards 
     17. Even less McCartney
           From: Stratton Bearheart 
     18. Re: Nanker Phelge
           From: Phil Milstein 
     19. Re: Ronnie Dante
           From: Laura Pinto 
     20. Organ's R Us
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     21. Re: Spiral Staircase/Brenda K. Starr
           From: Simon White 
     22. Shirley Not!
           From: Simon White 


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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 22:27:58 -0000 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop update The Fashions are playing on http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche - winners of the Record of the Week, with a very strong Jack Nitzsche & Jackie DeShannon song, "Baby That's Me", better known by Lesley Gore and The Cake. But this, the original recording, sure holds a lot of charm. Next weeks Battle of the Nitzsches promises to be a battle royal! For those who haven't heard Bobby Day's "Another Country, Another World", a super take on The Crystals gem, a treat that shouldn't be missed. Only problem is that the competition is provided by Emil O'Connor's obscure cover of Johnny Nash's "Some Of Your Lovin'". So you lucky people two red-hot covers of Spector co-compositions both featuring Darlene Love and her pals on vocal duty. The Nitzsche Radio Page, http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/jacknitzscheradio.htm is this week playing the "Wall Of Sound" Jingle #3. Does life get any better? Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 19:12:55 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: The music on musica; Brian's productions; [Canadian] Esquires; more Re: Message 10,000 - I'm late with the well-wishes, so I'll just thank YOU for the cool musica. I love the Nino Tempo - "Pet Tempo!" Bonnie & The Treasures is also nice, but "Close Your Eyes" is my favorite of hers so far, although I haven't toured her song-poem repertoire yet! And the Reparata track is a pleasure, although it cut out on me during what seems like the final chorus. (Is that my computer's problem, or musica's?) Stratton Bearhart wrote: > I agree with Mark Frumento that there is a discrepancy between > the quality of Brian Wilson's creative output with The Beach > Boys and some of the material he produced for others. While agreeing with that comment, I disagree with your following one that Brian put the _best_ outside production work into American Spring. There are indeed some excellent moments, but I also hear the full share of the master's touch in "Guess I'm Dumb," "Pamela Jean," the absent-on-the-CD Wayne Newton (& the Beach Boys) "Comin' On Too Strong" (also a Brian production and a hit, wasn't it?) and my long-time fave "Sacramento." I wish he'd spent more time on the Survivors' instrumental, "After The Game," to my mind one of the most beautiful pre-Pet Sounds melodies he ever recorded. In fact,I can hear it in my head done in 4/4 "Surf's Up" feeling, with lyrics, of course.... Richard Havers mentions Rupert Holmes. "Town Square" and "The Old School" from his 1978 Private Stock LP, "Pursuit of Happiness" (PS 7006) are a two-song suite I've always loved - beautiful, yearning, ultimately life-affirming. And since I jumped ahead a decade, let me jump back one to 1959 for a Jim Reeves' "He'll Have To Go" (RCA), a million-plus #1 hit. I remember seeing him either sing or lip-sync on TV while "on the phone" (it could have been on Dick Clark's Saturday evening show). There's also the under-reissued Orlons' "Don't Hang Up" (Cameo, 1962). And let's not forget that mid-60s country weeper, "Yes, Mr. Peters" (Mercury), in which Roy Drusky calls up his squeeze on the side (played by Priscilla Mitchell)who answers, "Yes, Mr. Peters," allegedly to her boss. Cute once - but it was actually a c&w hit. Andres Jurak: > [Donna Lynn] also had a single released only in Japan (I think)- > A-Side. I Had A Dream I Was A Beatle > B-Side. My Boyfriend Got A Beatle Haircut > Record Number CR-1124 "Beatle Haircut" was actually a US hit 45 in 1964, spawning an album of the same name. Both were on Capitol. Someone mentioned "Superman's Song" (charted in Canada) by the Crash Test Dummies. A masterpiece! There's a rare video of lead singer Brad Roberts eulogizing Superman; the band members are the mourners. Funny yet quite touching; worth seeking out. Speaking of Canada, after 3 1/2 decades of looking, I just came into a copy of The Esquires, "So Many Other Boys" (Capitol of Canada, 1964). This wonderful-but-unknown song embodies the Canadian link to the British invasion, about halfway through a CD of unknown origin of Canadian hits from the late 50s to early 70s. One interesting conclusion I draw from listening through the CD is that Canadians were listening to as much (or more) British pop music as American long before "the invasion." To my knowledge, it never made it to an album or other re-release. If the Admin team can tell me how, I can try to play it to musica. Rashkovsky: It's all rock and roll, like "classical" is all classical. I'd apply the Supreme Court's comment on porn, "I know it when I hear it." (Okay, so they said "see.") I fear even getting into bottomless ocean of this discussion, and so won't - at least now. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:03:49 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Spiral Starecase Larry Lapka wrote: > I think the confusion with Pat Upton's race stems from the > fact that his daughter, Brenda K. Starr, is the result of a > mixed marriage. Trivia of the year award goes to Larry. Who would EVER have known this?~ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:58:12 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Nanker Phelge Richard Havers: > Why would there be a Nanker Phelge as well as a > Jagger/Richards credit? Why would were there be an L. Ransford as well as a Nash/Clarke credit or an A.Smith/Bernard Webb as well as a McCartney credit? Sometimes it's to cover up a writers' identity (see Hilton Valentine's website and the story on "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood"). Sometimes it's to see if a song can sell on its own merit, there are a million reasons why people do it. If the royalties were going to everybody then why not just list the Rolling Stones? Why only two names? Have you seen a royalty statement with all five listed? You may be right, but I've never heard of this before. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 19:32:36 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Soul & Inspiration; a few seminal records Richard Hattersley: > Who actually produced the Righteous Brothers' "Soul & Inspiration"? From the label of a DJ copy of the original release: Prod: Bill Medley; Arr. Bill Baker; Cond. Michael Patterson. Can't rank 'em, but some personal seminal records: Teddy Bears - Oh Why (not the first, but arguably the best; any will do) Spectors Three - I Really Do (the "velvet wall of sound") Clusters - Darling Can't You Tell (TeeGee, 1958 - Arlene Smith of the Chantels overdubbed on top for a killer sophisticated sound) Penguins - Earth Angel Frankie Lymon & Teenagers - Why Do Fools (and any other uptempos_ Chantels - Maybe Videos - Trickle Trickle Dore [Herb] Alpert - Dina (A&M 714) Procol Harum - Whiter Shade of Pale Byrds - Turn Turn Turn Duane Eddy - Rebel Rouser Diamonds - Little Darlin' Fiestas - So Fine Fleetwoods AND Sandy Salisbury - Come Softly To Me 14 random ones, and I haven't even gotten going.... Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 21:44:45 -0500 From: TD Subject: Re: Suzie Creamcheese' conscience call Eddy asks, > Isn't that Suzie's conscience there, rather than a phone > conversation: "Suzie, this is the voice of your conscience..." Dan: > Jeez, Eddy, you are right! > But I think her conscience is contacting her via telephone.... But on that same album is the fabulous "You Didn't Try To Call Me" -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 03:19:18 -0000 From: Stuart Robertson Subject: Re: 4 Seasons On E-Bay What do you folks think of the album "Genuine Imitation Life Gazette", I enjoy this album myself,good arrangements,and those harmonies, I love the track Mrs Statelys Garden(correct title?) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 21:35:30 -0600 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Re: Cuff Links / Ronnie Dante Peter: > The album sleeve notes for "Tracy" however would have us > believe that the Cuff Links were a "new pop group" with > nine members. None of whom is pictured on the sleeve. > However there is a young lady with a stripey shirt and > blue jeans - wonder if she's Tracy? You mean I shouldn't > believe that either? But Peter, it's true that the front cover of the album has a photo of a girl (Tracy?), but the back cover has a collage of faces in a circle, each of them being Ron with a different hairstyle/beard/mustache etc. If you didn't know, you probably wouldn't realize that they are all the same guy. --Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 05:04:00 +0000 From: Paul Lewis Subject: Re: Ask the Count 5 Steve: >Weren't Brenton Wood and the Count Five on the same >label. Yes they were both on a label called Double Shot Records which I think came out of Los Angeles. In Australia they were on Festival records. Thanks Paul Lewis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 00:34:05 -0500 From: Mike Edwards Subject: The Metropolitan Soul Show Simon White writes: > Under the new Marquis of Queensbury rules, two non-CD > tracks will be "played to musica" on Monday following the > show. I thank you." Great idea, Simon. Let's hope the tracks make it this time. I'm going to try and listen to the Show as it is broadcast on Sunday afternoon in New York. Good luck, Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 00:43:54 -0500 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Re: Bob Rashkow's Top 10 I would like to step up and second Bob on the following superb choices: 1. The Letter - The Box Tops - Mala (1967). 3. Suspicion - Terry Stafford - (1964, Crusader) 5. Sun Ain't Gonna Shine- The Walker Brothers - 1966 (Smash). 6. Bend Me, Shape Me - The American Breed- 1968 (Acta) 9. No Fair At All - The Association - 1966 (Valiant) You're just left wondering why did the era of the 45 have to end. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 10:06:39 +0100 From: Eddy Smit Subject: Nanker Phelge As requested. Nanker Phelge songs : Stoned Now I've got a witness Little by Little (NP-Phil Spector) Andrew's blues (NP-Phil Spector) I'm alright Off the hook Empty heart 2120 South Michigan Avenue Stewed and keefed Play with fire We want the Stones The under assistant west coast promotion man The spider and the fly Note that the "We want the Stones" chant by the concert crowd, is also attributed to NP. Stones co-authors : As tears go by (J-R-Oldham) Con le mie lacrime (J-R-Danpa) Ventilator blues (J-R-Mick Taylor) I'd much rather be with the boys (Richards-Oldham) Black limousine (J-R-Wood) No use in crying (J-R-Wood) Everything is turning to gold (J-R-Wood) If I was a dancer Pt 2 (J-R-Wood) Pretty beat up (J-R-Wood) One hit (to the body) (J-R-Wood) Fight (J-R-Wood) Back to zero (J-R-Chuck Leavell) Dirty work (J-R-Wood) (these last 4 all on Dirty Work album !!) Almost hear you sigh (J-R-Jordan)Anybody seen my baby (J-R-KD lang- Mink) Thief in the night (J-R-De Beauport) Note that Andrew Oldham disappears from the credits in Con le mie lacrime, suggesting he only did (some) words for that one. Note that Ron Wood totally disappears after the OD on Dirty Work. Of course the most remarkable absentee is Sister Morphine, which is credited to J-R only, but is nevertheless more or less accepted as a Marianne Faithfull song. Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 01:57:20 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Ann Sidney; Ellie Janov; phone songs; Lincoln Chase; Gene Pitney John Frank: > (who is still amazed that Ann Sidney's "The Boy In The Woolly > Sweater" made it to at least #8 in Las Cruces, New Mexico. > Despite the bad review in "That Will Never Happen Again", > I love it!) John, you must have left when I came aboard, so hello. Not only are names like "Mina" etc. bandied about knowingly, but yours is the first mention of a song and artist only I thought I knew about. I remember this record being "terminally cute" - but liking it anyway. Any idea who she was and what happened? And talking about one-off's on Capitol (which Ann Sidney recorded for), Ellie Janov had an exceptional cover of (forgive the name) Cat Stevens' "Portobello Road." Any background on this, please? Phil Milstein: > I hesitate to throw into the mix all the phone-number songs: > "Beechwood 4-5789," etc. Tommy Tutone had one in the '80s although I forget his number (867-5309?). Then there's Steely Dan's "Rikki Don't Lose That Number. And wasn't there a country song, "Trouble On The Line" where the cheated-upon spouse is listening in on the extension? (A recent Sawyer Brown song has the same title; don't know if it's the same song.) Richard Tearle: "Hello, How Are You?" was ELO, I believe (don't remember the exact name of it - maybe "Mr. Blue Sky"?). And (maybe Javed can help on this one) there was a French-Canadian song c. 1970 called "Le Telefon" (I don't remember the artist - he winds up screaming at the end - but the 45 was on a dark green label). I enjoyed the Shirley Ellis notes; thanks, Phil. I'd been curious about Lincoln Chase, whose name I knew before Shirley's time in the spotlight. AMG notes "Lincoln Chase is best-known for writing ' Jim Dandy' and 'Jim Dandy Got Married' for Lavern Baker and teaming with his wife, Shirley Ellis, in the '60s to pen a string of entertaining novelty tunes". Except that thanks to Phil, we know they weren't married. BMI lists a total of 361 compositions, including "Such A Night," the first-generation Drifters song. There were also two albums under his own name: "Explosive Lincoln Chase" [Liberty, 1958] and "Lincoln Chase & You" [Paramount, 1974]. Anyone heard his solo albums, especially the 1958 one? Keith Beach re: Gene Pitney: > Interesting stories about Phil Spector (his favourite track of > his long career is "Every breath I take"). < Phil's or Gene's? Count it as mine - it's still an incredibly powerful track and possibly the best match for Gene's unique tenor. By the way, for Pitney completists and r&b fans, if you ever see "The Hartford Groups" album or CD on Relic, grab it - there are four Gene Pitney doo-wop tracks where you'd swear he's channeling Clyde McPhatter! RIP Hank Ballard. I did a recent side-by-side comparison, and Chubby Checker's "Twist" was a note-for-note copy yet played somehow less agressively. Chubby's version was dancing, but Hank's was indulging in the original meaning of rock and roll! Let's go, let's go, let's go, Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 11:22:02 -0000 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: 4 Seasons on Alanna That 4 Seasons on the Alanna label is not our boys. Another earlier group on a one-off record, that isn't particularly distinctive in any way. Save your money! Kingsley -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 10:43:36 -0600 From: Charles G. Hill Subject: The Hooven-Winn-Smith axis So saith Guy Lawrence: >"Gimme Little Sign" and Wood's other hit "The Oogum Boogum Song" >were both beautiful summery soul records. Anybody got any >other credits on the writers - Smith, Hooven and Winn? Hal Winn and Joe Hooven were the producers, and, I think, the owners of the Double Shot label; Alfred Smith is Brenton Wood himself. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 18:16:04 -0000 From: Michael Edwards Subject: "More Today Than Yesterday" in musica Pat Upton has been the subject of a few write-ins recently. "More Today Than Yesterday" was his most famous song, a #12 hit in 1969 for the group he led, Spiral Staircase. Here's a disco revival from another Spectropop hero, Gary Criss, as his version of "More Today Than Yesterday" is currently playing in musica. It was recorded in Montreal and was issued about two years after his success on the Salsoul label with "Rio De Janeiro". Way back when, Gary gave us the original version of "Our Favorite Melodies" (Diamond, 1962), which has already been played in musica. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 19:03:04 -0000 From: Stratton Bearheart Subject: Even less McCartney Thanks Alan, fascinating post. and full of veracity!. My thoughts move from McCartney to Paul Simon, who,I think, emerged from a "folk tradition" and ventured into a far more interesting harmonic territory than PM. (even if a little boring!) Stratton Bearhart. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 15:37:13 -0500 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Nanker Phelge Thanks to Richard Havers for his list of Nanker-Phelge credits. Interesting that about half of them are B-side-only tracks -- perhaps a clue to what the boys had in mind for that credit. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 00:20:52 -0000 From: Laura Pinto Subject: Re: Ronnie Dante David Coyle wrote: > BTW, Ron Dante's video for "Sugar Sugar" by the Archies is > still playing regularly on VH-1 Classic. It has Dante miming > to the vocals and a chorus of Ron Dantes pretending to play > the various instruments. Oddly enough, it kind of resembles > David Cassidy's clip for "I Think I Love You". Thanks for the heads-up on Ron's old "Sugar Sugar" clip being shown on VH-1. I seldom watch TV anymore but I'll have to tune in and look out for that one. I saw that clip for the first time in 1971 on The Larry Kane Show; it was also the LAST time I saw it until a couple of years ago via a clip on Ron's site. I'd love to see it on my 25-inch TV rather than my 15-inch computer monitor, on an audio/video system that shrinks the picture down to a mere couple of inches! Laura -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 01:14:06 -0800 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Organ's R Us Phil Chapman wrote: > Combo-Organs are characterised by a reedy electronic sound, > as used on "96 Tears", "Light My Fire", "House Of The Rising > Sun", although NOT "Telstar" or "Runaway", these were modified > Claviolines (monohonic). Hi Phil, Wasn't the instrument on "Runaway" called a MUSITRON played by a Max Crook who came up with the collection of notes which lead into the vocal (note the technical data) (I just buy the stuff). He also came up with a tune called "The Snake" under the name Maximillian, which, if you were lucky, appeared on the b-side of "Runaway" and made for a very collectable item, but was also issued as a 45 in its own right. I think it came out on London American in the UK, as did "Runaway", which is still the best song to ride to at a fun fair, bar none. I liked the Waltzers best. Ken On The West Coast -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 01:22:19 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Spiral Staircase/Brenda K. Starr James Botticelli wrote: > Brenda K. Starr, is the result of a mixed marriage. Is this the same Brenda who did a wonderful record, "Satan, Let Me Sleep Tonight"? It's on my wants list! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 01:38:46 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Shirley Not! Charles G. Hill wrote: > Alfred Smith is Brenton Wood himself. And also Alfred of Shirley and Alfred - Shirley of course is Shirley Goodman of Shirley and Lee and Shirley & Co ["Shame Shame Shame"]. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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