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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Hank Ballard
           From: Simon White 
      2. The last train
           From: Bob Rashkow 
      3. What is rock and roll?
           From: Doc Rock 
      4. Re: McCartney
           From: Scott Blackerby 
      5. Detergents
           From: Ken Silverwood 
      6. Re: Faux Shangri-las
           From: Guy Lawrence 
      7. Re: BBC sound clip/faux Shangri-Las/Betty Barnes
           From: Ian Chapman 
      8. Re: Shindig/Thomas Fritsch???
           From: Mark Frumento 
      9. Superduper
           From: Alan Gordon 


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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 22:40:59 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Hank Ballard Sad to hear of Hank Ballard's passing ...without his version of The Twist there would be no Chubby Checker, Cameo wouldn't have gone in the direction they did which means no Dee Dee Sharp, Orlons etc. The knock on effect of that is possibly no Gamble and Huff and the repercussions of that are too awful to even think about! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 23:20:02 -0000 From: Bob Rashkow Subject: The last train Caught Terry Gross' 1993 interview with Hank Ballard this morning. He talks about how he got the idea for "Finger Poppin' Time" in a coffee shop (waitress asks man what time it is, he snaps his finger and replies, "It's finger popping time!") Cute! And R.I.P. Hank, we will all miss you a lot. "Work With Me Annie"--another great R & R influence from the early 5Ts. It occurred to me earlier today that "Last Train to Clarksville" (written by Boyce & Hart, I think!) by The Monkees, one of the biggest hit songs of the late sixties, is entirely a telephone conversation (Now I must hang up the phone/I can't hear you in this noisy railroad station....) Did anyone else think of that? Checked out bnbnk's What Might Be Rock & Roll--an intriguing collection! On one end of the spectrum he's got the mind-blowing, wonderfully trippy "Journey To The Center of the Mind" and Tim Buckley's mini-epic soul-folk poem, "I Never Asked To Be Your Mountain", and on the other, Grand Funk's mundane, headache- inducing "We're An American Band". Grand Funk BTW was a marvelous group while they were still based in Detroit, but with the possible exception of "Bad Time" (which arguably was fairly reminiscent of their earlier work). I can't listen to, and really enjoy, anything after '73. By re-making "The Loco-Motion" as a "heavy" tune, IMHO they had completed their commercial sellout (in addition to getting great royalty profit for its penners). Thank you bnbnk & let's see some more of what "might be" rock and roll!!! I'm already trying to come up with a few of my own. Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:23:02 -0500 From: Doc Rock Subject: What is rock and roll? Rock and roll is the music that was popular when you were in high school, if you were in high school after 1955. Doc -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:38:44 EST From: Scott Blackerby Subject: Re: McCartney Alan Goron said: > But as great a bass player as Chris is, well, in my humble > estimation, he's no McCartney. Paul had a far-reaching > understanding of arrangement and production that did so > much for his bass playing. He really is a great bass player - even if he doesn't think so himself. His bass patterns literally revolutionized rock. Wish I'd kept my Hofner bass ... Scott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 23:48:18 -0800 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Detergents Whilst listening to The Shirelles' "Soldier Boy", I realised (as you do) that I had a copy of The Detergents' "Soldier Girl", lurking in the dark recesses, so I played it to musica. See what you think Ken On The West Coast -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 00:02:38 -0000 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re: Faux Shangri-las Taking the "radio play" concept one step further was "Memories Of A High School Bride" by the Players which really was a mini soap opera with music popping up every now and then. The whole thing (it's not surprising to learn) was the product of Kim Fowley's imagination. Regards, Guy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 00:56:11 -0000 From: Ian Chapman Subject: Re: BBC sound clip/faux Shangri-Las/Betty Barnes Phil wrote re. the BBC website: > Thanks all, found a neat audio clip of La La Brooks > talking about "the mad recording technique of record > producer Phil Spector." That’s a clip from an interview with Charlotte Greig, taken from her Radio 2 series "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow", from, I think, 1990. It was a truly excellent six-part series about girl-groups that followed on from Charlotte’s book of the same title. Apart from LaLa Brooks, there were also contributions from Nedra Talley, Barbara and Rosa Lee of the Dixie Cups, Rosetta Hightower and Reparata, amongst others. Regarding faux Shangri-Las records, that sub-genre taken to its ultimate must surely be Betty Barnes’ "Requiem (For A Girl Born Of The Wrong Times)" on Kapp (’68), where we’re given a sneering spoken commentary on the requiem mass for the misunderstood local "bad girl" and the events leading up to her demise: "Dig that crazy caddie – she never rode in one of them before, it’s even got curtains on the back door – and get a load of what’s goin’ on – you’d think someone real important was gone. I remember when no-one gave a darn". We’re led to believe this is spoken by a friend of the dead girl, a fellow tearaway, when in a jarring denouement, it turns out to be the girl herself, full of regret, watching her own funeral. Despite the obvious tongue-in-cheek element, it’s quite unsettling in its own way! Ian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 00:48:59 -0000 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Re: Shindig/Thomas Fritsch??? Patrick Rands wrote: > What a great site. Shindig Magazine is real up and comer, I think. The fact that Jon (Mills) opted to put reviews on-line in such a nice format (rather than wait for the next issue of the magazine) is really a good move on his part. I'm obviously appreciative of him reviewing my CDRs but regardless of that he's got a good thing going and I hope that everyone gets over to the site to check out his excellent work. > I went through a Thomas Fritsch phase many years ago when > I got my hands on two of his albums. You are a brave soul, Patrick! But just how and why does one go through a Thomas Fritsch phase? Glad you said this was a few years back or I'd be worried about you. ;>)) > Anyone know anything about this guy? I can't offer any more information than can be gleaned from comments by Mark W. He was apparently pretty well known in Germany at the time Mark was asked to do arrangements for two of his LPs. Nils Noboch was the producer and from the sound of it quite a competent one at that. The recording facilities in Germany must have been light years ahead of the US and UK because the sound of the records is really amazing. As to the music, well, I have a tough time with German language pop as it is. There are several Mark Wirtz originals on the two LPs I have. Most of them are not credited to Mark. Rudi Lindt took the credit. In some cases its under other names. Fritsch looks a little to me like Lou Christie but unfortunately has none of the talent to go with it. By the way, I think there is at least one CD in print on TF... in Germany of course. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 16:47:54 -0800 From: Alan Gordon Subject: Superduper Don't know if the first one here qualifies, but: "Superlungs My Supergirl" - Donovan and The Jeff Beck Group "Braniacs Daughter" - XTC (mentions Supergirl) peace, albabe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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