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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
                  http://www.spectropop.com/Jamie.htm
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There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Mr. Custer; folk choirs; radio call letters; Hal Miller
           From: Country Paul 
      2. Re: Motorcity Records / Drum Machines / Doris Jones
           From: Simon White 
      3. Re: Tandyn Almer
           From: executiy 
      4. Re: Balladeers Take 2
           From: Bob Rashkow 
      5. Re: The Forum Artwork
           From: Brian Chidester 
      6. Re: Determiners
           From: Don 
      7. Re: Motorcity Top 10
           From: Adam G. 
      8. Soul 24 -7  Radio playlist  16th feb
           From: Simon White 
      9. Re: Spector Sessions CDs
           From: Richard Hattersley 
     10. Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop update
           From: Martin Roberts 
     11. Matthew Reid's "Jane"
           From: Country Paul 
     12. Crosby and the Balladeers
           From: Steve Harvey 
     13. Roy Phillips
           From: Watson Macblue 
     14. The Shadow Nose
           From: Steve Harvey 
     15. Re: WINS etc
           From: George Leonard 


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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 23:10:12 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Mr. Custer; folk choirs; radio call letters; Hal Miller Bryan: > Al DeLory, Joe Van Winkle and Fred Darian were Del-Fi's (Balladeers) > group, (Van Winkle/Darian co-authored and produced the million-seller > "Please Mr. Custer". Worth another listen. Behind the cynically satirical vocal is a beautiful minor-key ballad. I know Larry Verne passed on some time ago, but did he have any other hits? Anyone know his history? Ron: > I'm not sure if the Balladeers on Delfi were the same as Les Baxter's > Balladeers who had an LP on Reprise in 1961. At that time their > membership included Phil Campos of the Forum and Jerry Yester among > others. In 1963 they had several songs on "Jack Linkletter Presents a > Folk Festival" on GNP. By this time David Crosby was a member of the > group. The context of the time: payola dimmed r&b; "clean cut" folk was in. The New Christy Minstrels and Serendipity Singers were having hits and everyone wanted to have a "me too" act. No doubt a lot of quality talent went through these groups on their way to somewhere else. (I wonder if the lush choral "Bells of Rhymney" by the Serendipities would sound as good to me now as it did then.) George Leonard, true about WEVD! Many other stations had insteresting backstories to their call letters. Not to get on too-divergent a tack: aside from the obvious (like WMGM, New York, owned by guess what company) were call letters less so - ex-rock-now-news powerhouse "1010 WINS, New York" was once the flagship station of the International News Service. In Westchester County, NY, WFAS still exists, but its founder, Frank A. Seitz, who gave me my first radio job, has gone to that great directional pattern in the sky. In Providence, RI, ex-rocker WICE was originally in the Rhode Island Arena, an ICE-hockey rink; WHIM, once the 60's rocker "Whim Fun Radio," was originally counter-programmed to women-oriented stations (soap operas, etc.) in the daytime - "Radio for HIM." Mike Edwards: > Hal Miller on Amy from 1964...."On My Own Two Feet" < Awesome and huge, and quite the sea change for the lead singer of "Silhouettes". I've always loved this one. Primo Crewe sound. Tom Taber: > A google search revealed K.S. 230 as being The Charlatans 45 "The > Shadow Knows"/"32-20"; don't know if it had an actual release. Is this the SF or UK Charlatans? Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:42:02 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Motorcity Records / Drum Machines / Doris Jones A personal Motorcity Top Ten - only the first one is in any particular order - and of course there are more. I've mentioned the best or only available version where possible. I really do recommend any of these sides to anyone interested. It must be said that in some cases these tracks were meant to be played in a club situation and sound best on a big system - then they really come into their own. They were all done with the intention of capturing the spirit of the artist involved - but with a more contemporary [for the time] feel too, hence the drum machines - although economy came into that it too! 1. Karen Pree - Girl With A Broken Heart [12"] 2. Kim Weston - Signal Your Intention [7"/12"] Actually a Nightmare release first, but on Motocity too. 3. Chuck Jackson - All Over The World [12"] 4. Saundra Edwards - Love From The Inside Out [U.S. cd HTCD 7702 "The Best Of Motorcity Vol 2"] 5. Lost - Barbara Randolph [MOTCDLP 51 U.K.cd "DIVAS" there is a better later version of this] 6. David Ruffin - Hurt The One You Love [12"] 7. The Fantastic Four - Back In Circulation [U.K.cd MOTCD 76 "Back In Circulation"] 8. Ivy Jo Hunter - Burning Sensation [U.K.cd MOTCCD83 "Motorcity A Go Go"] 9. The Lovetones - Fire Alarm [U.K.cd MOTCD 72 "Turn This Heart Around"] 10. Marv Johnson - Somethings Burning In My Heart [U.K.cd MOTCCD83 "Motorcity A Go Go"] 10 b. The Exciters "Reaching For the Best" Nightmare - 78. Not a Motorcity release but worthy of mention. Great vocals - Brenda Reid [of course] on a remake of a song that charted in 75 in the U.K. but updated. Its a reet good Hi Energy stormer! I won't bore the rest of the readers with more but anyone interested please contact me off list. As for Doris Jones, look out for 'The Best Of Doris Jones' U.S. cd HTCD69-2 and "Ian Levine Presents Northern Soul Memories" U.K. GSCD 129 which contains Doris and a number of similar tracks and one or two from my list above. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 00:47:16 -0000 From: executiy Subject: Re: Tandyn Almer Harvey Williams: > I believe (Tandyn Almer) also recorded an LP of demos for Almo/Irving > Publishing (like the Paul Williams-Roger Nichols LP); there's also a > songbook called "Along Comes Tandyn", which contains "12 new songs > arranged for pop groups", such as "I Get High", "Sunset Strip Soliloquy, > "Alice Designs" & others. I've no idea where these numbers ended up, or > indeed where Almer ended up. Does anyone else? I met him in the 1990s. He was living in the Washington, D.C. area. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:58:27 -0500 From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: Balladeers Take 2 If I didn't know before I know it now! It's the names, baby! I'd never heard of Les Baxter's Balladeers (though I have heard of Les Baxter!) so I figured it was Al DeLory et al but forgot that those are....3 different people! Al DeLory was the guy who put "Suicide is Painless (Theme from M.A.S.H.)" on the charts in '70, wasn't he? Leonardo Flores, I can't say for sure but I could have sworn the Outrage LP on Kama Sutra was released. I thought I remembered seeing it way back in the 70s in a local specialty store such as Record Exchange. If it was actually released it's probably extremely rare by now. Groovin' on, Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:15:37 EST From: Brian Chidester Subject: Re: The Forum Artwork Steve wrote: > As I stated in the liner notes to the Forum Rev-Ola CD reissue, the > jacket art probably drove away more potential fans than it ever > attracted. The cover looks like a budget religious album from a post- > Rat Pack perspective. Like Sinatra marrying Modess Mia Farrow? In the context of 1967, you are right, it probably sent prospective buyers running for the Iron Butterfly instead. That said, in hind sight, it reminds me a little of the "Hawaii Right Now! Don Ho Presents The Aliies" record cover. Hawaii gone Mod! If you are a Mod and have a sense of humor, then the Forum should be appealing on the grounds of artwork alone. The music is really great, though. It sounds like a pastiche of the PET SOUNDS-style of instrumentation, with elements of Byrds-Pop and Soft-Pop vocals. Who knows where the mix came from, but it works completely. Incidentally, Jerry Yester, who was a part of Baxter's Balladeers, remembers that most of the people who were involved with him (including David Crosby), in the '60s, remember him as an old fogey-type producer, who was supplying schlock jobs. I wonder what Brian Wilson thought of him. Check out the opening sequence of "Muscle Beach Party" -- the perfect soundtrack flow from Baxter into Usher/Wilson... utterly unbelievable with the Micahel Dormer imagry. > Preserving the original art was a tough call, but we decided to leave it > as is. Incidentally, Baxter's hilarious S&M-inspired notes are also > included in the CD reissue. Glad you kept the original art and notes. Those collectors still into irony will file this under absurd, and purists should appreciate that record companies always did what they thought was best, even if it didn't really fit the beauty of the vibe in the grooves. Good job, Steve. Best, Brian Chidester -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:37:38 -0000 From: Don Subject: Re: Determiners Tom, When I list the groups, if the group used "The" I would only use it if their names didn't end in S. So The Beatles would be filed under "Beatles". The Germz would be filed under "Germz, The". The ones that I have a hard time with are groups like The Roger Nichols Trio. File under R or N? Right now I have CDs by Ben Folds in d different spots depending on whether he was with Ben Folds Five. DonNJ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:44:40 -0000 From: Adam G. Subject: Re: Motorcity Top 10 Leonardo Flores: > How 'Bout some top 10 Lists for Motorcity? In no real order....... Saundra Edwards - There's Nothing Else To Say Baby Carolyn Gill & Marv Johnson - Ain't Nothing Like The Real Thing Syreeta - If The Shoe Fits Valadiers - What's Wrong With Me Baby Kim Weston - Emotion Three Ounces Of Love - Evil One Joe Stubbs - Smoke In The Air Saundra Edwards - No More Room In My Heart Velvelettes - That's When The Tears Start Edwin Starr - Breakin' Down The Walls Of Heartache --Adam G -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:35:58 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Soul 24 -7 Radio playlist 16th feb Yesterday's playlist for ya. For more like it, tune in to the show next Sunday: no no baby - the sherrys you cant do that - doris willingham are you ready for love - patti austin signal your intention - kim weston this time it's real - tower of power no turning back now - shelly black integrity - aretha franklin do you like the way i love you - the ebonys i'm still dancin - the presidents funny how we've changed places - debra anderson i can't make it without you - tyrone davis the man with the golden crutch - charles thomas i really love you - dee dee sharp la de da i love you - inez and charlie foxx when i'm gone - instumental lonely boy - brenda holloway heaven must have sent you - the elgins open the door to your heart - na allen chains of love - j j barnes that's just never enough - j j barnes i want to go back there again - chris clark what's it gonna be - dusty springfield bring him back - cissie houston by some chance - the lewis sisters i love you baby - cindy scott walk tall like a man - 02 of clubs i'm back - little richard you better stop - little richard he got what he wanted (but he lost what he had) - little richard if you wanna - baby jean heartbreaker - b b king keep lookin' - solomon burke what is this - bobby womack mama (he treats your daughter mean) - big maybelle you can count on that - shirley matthews and the big town girls do you - the knights and arthur -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:48:58 +0000 From: Richard Hattersley Subject: Re: Spector Sessions CDs Don't suppose anyone could tell me where to get these CDs, I have been unable to get my hands on them. Contact me off group if anyone can help. cheers Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 18:08:56 -0000 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop update Currently playing on http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche Judy Henske - Dolphins In The Sea (Reprise), don't miss it. It's a pity Timi missed out, but she will be in the frame again for Battle of the Nitzsches. Next week the choice is just as tough, between Bobby Day - Down On My Knees (RCA), or The Furys - If I Didn't Have A Dime (Liberty). Overwhelming response to continue playing the KHJ drum sessions at Nitzsche Radio. Take a trip to http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/jacknitzscheradio.htm to hear the two latest tracks. Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:06:13 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Matthew Reid's "Jane" I was going through an LP I found recently called "Girls Girls Girls All Over The World" (Adam & Eve 504, 1990), a doo-wop compilation which looks like a US-made gray-market affair. In among the stuff is "Jane", a very nice doo-wop ballad by "Matthew Reid and the Seasons." Is this indeed a Bob Crewe Production? Can someone help with the label and when it was released? (It sounds early 60s; I know Reid had at least one 45 on Topix.) Also, there's a piano intro and outro, which on this album is drowning in heavy tape-echo. Since the effect is on another unrelated track as well, it sounds like it may be an aftermarket addition. Can anyone familiar with this track tell me, please? Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:21:39 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Crosby and the Balladeers Byrds fans should know that Les Baxter's Balladeers were an early training ground for David "Capeman" Crosby. Al Linkletter had a hootenanny album with various acts including David and the Balladeers. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:17:45 -0800 (PST) From: Watson Macblue Subject: Roy Phillips One of my best memories of Jamie LePage is turning him on to (of all people) The Peddlers. I sent him a tape of their ludicrously underrated album Suite London; his glorious reply was a near-hysterical screed of rapture. Like so many of us, he wondered how the hell a bunch of guys this talented could be so forgotten. Does anyone in Spectropop have contact information for Roy Phillips? I know he's in New Zealand, running a recording studio after a strange post-Peddlers life of fish restauranting and (allegedly) cab driving while the other two Peddlers continue to live it up in Spain and Portugal. I get the feeling that the story of the band's breakup is right there, somehow. Anyway, I'm interested in getting a radio show together about the Peddlers, and a word with the greatest British pop stylist of the 60's (so there!!) wouldn't go amiss. All help gratefully received! Watson (Yeah, I'm baaaccck!!) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:26:18 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: The Shadow Nose > Tom Taber: > > A google search revealed K.S. 230 as being The > Charlatans 45 "The > > Shadow Knows"/"32-20"; don't know if it had an > actual release. Country Paul: > Is this the SF or UK Charlatans? The Charlatans are the US version. I don't have my single in front of me, but I'm beginning to think the single was actually on Kapp, but I will check. It does have a picture sleeve and was a white label promo. The Shadow Knows was not the band's choice for the single. It was suppose to be Buffy Saint Marie's Codeine, but the higher powers thought the drug reference (even though it was anti-drugs) would get it banned. The single went nowhere, not surprising considering that it was hopelessly out of date by the time it was released. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 03 14:59:52 -0800 From: George Leonard Subject: Re: WINS etc > George Leonard, true about WEVD! Many other stations had insteresting > backstories to their call letters. Not to get on too-divergent a tack: > aside from the obvious (like WMGM, New York, owned by guess what company) > were call letters less so - ex-rock-now-news powerhouse "1010 WINS, New > York" was once the flagship station of the International News Service. Dear Country Paul, All those years and I never knew what WINS stood for. Murray the K's original venue. Thank you! You know, I know the lady who was Murray's executive assistant for years and years. I ought to turn her on to Spectropop. Paul, please do get on a "divergent tack", offlist with me, if you have time: How would you evaluate Garrison Keilor's classic book, WBLT, a Radio Romance? I've read it and re-read it. Emotionally, it was very close to what I saw here in Silicon Valley during the birth of the Internet. Indeed, the growth of this list has some interesting parallels with the early days chapters of that book. "Spectropop: an Internet Romance." We never realize we're in "history" until later. I'll post this request for offline info to the list, and drop the thread. George ----------- George J. Leonard Professor of Interdisciplinary Humanities San Francisco State University Novelist, Imagine Entertainment Universal Pictures, Hollywood -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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