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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop Update
           From: Martin Roberts 
      2. Re: Four Seasons - Little Boy (In Grown up Clothes) / Oldies radio.
           From: Billy G Spradlin 
      3. Re: Falsetto memory syndrome
           From: James Botticelli 
      4. Re: falsettos (and close harmony in general)
           From: Shawn Baldwin 
      5. Re: Four Seasons remixes
           From: James Botticelli 
      6. Re: Miss Frankie Nolan / Bob Crewe
           From: Mike Miller 
      7. Re: Foskett
           From: James Botticelli 
      8. Re: Andy Pratt
           From: Steve Harvey 
      9. Re: Daylight And Darkness
           From: Eric Charge 
     10. Re: Four Seasons remixes
           From: Eddy Smit 
     11. Radio & Power Pop; Eclection; melismas; Ronny & the Philharmonic; more
           From: Country Paul 
     12. Re: Ronnie Milsap on Scepter
           From: Teri Landi 
     13. Re: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop Update
           From: Mike Edwards 
     14. Re: Four Seasons remixes
           From: Mikey 
     15. Re: Ronnie Milsap on Scepter
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     16. More Ronnie Milsap
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     17. Re: Ronnie Milsap on Scepter
           From: Charles Ellis 
     18. Re: Ronny & the Philharmonic
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     19. Mae West backing group
           From: Claus 
     20. Christmas in January Pt 1 - Where The Girls Are Vol.5
           From: Martin Roberts 
     21. Christmas in January Pt 2 - All American Boys
           From: Martin Roberts 


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Message: 1
   Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:55:53 -0000
   From: Martin Roberts 
Subject: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop Update

Hi all, the Record Of The Week at 
http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm 
is Daniel A. Stone's "It Must Be Raining" on Capitol (early '61).
This features Jack Nitzsche's first credited arrangement.  

Next week: Garry Bonner and Gentle Soul battle it out.

There is another new-ish jingle playing on the Nitzsche Radio page.

Martin



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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:09:43 -0000 From: Billy G Spradlin Subject: Re: Four Seasons - Little Boy (In Grown up Clothes) / Oldies radio. BTW I bought a copy of The 4 Seasons "Little Boy (In Grown up Clothes)" from E-bay and posted it to musica yesterday. I wasn't happy the way the 45 arrived - it came in a box stuffed with newspaper and no sleeve. It was in worn shape but playable. Its a fine song, right in line with the Seasons 65-66 period. My guess it wasnt a big hit because radio had gotten wise of Vee-Jay's re-releasing of the Seasons catalog by then. Had it come out on Philips you'd proably hear it on your local oldies along with their other classics. A great record that doesnt knock you out on the first listen but slowly grows on you.. WSIA 1530 AM in Cincinatti has flipped from MOR standards to "Real Oldies" - pre-british invasion oldies from 1955 to 1963 with a few from the mid 60s sneaking in ('66 Bobby Herb's - "Sunny") They are a 50,000 "blowtorch" but their signal doesn't beam well to the southwest on the nighttime pattern. Has anyone on the east coast heard them and what songs are they spinning? Also I have read that Buffalo's WWKB 1520 is planning to return to oldies soon. On a sad note 1520 KOMA-AM in Oklahoma City which has run oldies since 1988 is planning to stop simulcasting with their FM and go all news/talk next month, just what AM listeners need! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:51:46 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Falsetto memory syndrome Richard Williams wrote: > Another big guy with a wonderful falsetto gift: the late, > great Billy Stewart (particularly "I Do Love You"). I was just thinking of also adding the late great Keith Barrow. I think Billy falls into the lower than false tenor register actually. Man could play that organ too! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:27:56 -0600 From: Shawn Baldwin Subject: Re: falsettos (and close harmony in general) Stuart Miller: > I was surprised by the support that Russell Tompkins had. > Compared to the sweet soul of the Delfonics, this was chicken > in a basket nite club stuff. Did the guy ever sing in anything > other than alto? He seemd to be stuck up there permanently. Speaking as a man who naturally sings alto! Russell and the gentlemen in the Delfonics have often gone beyond what is technically the alto and are into the second Soprano range. The sound of the male falsetto is much higher than the actual notes a when done by a woman. Ruth Pointer of the Pointer Sisters is not a true alto she's a contralto which basically mean she's a high tenor. Shawn -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 19:06:54 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Four Seasons remixes Vincent Degiorgio wrote: > Ben Liebrand, very famous in Holland and parts of Europe for > his productions and remixes, did a great job on "Oh" as well > "Long Train Running" by The Doobies. The Long Train is a staple of my mobile DJ diet...packs the floor with rockers and discophiles alike. I just heard of a brand new remix of Van Morrison's "I've Been Workin'". Anyone know anything about this? Like where it might be found? JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:04:24 EST From: Mike Miller Subject: Re: Miss Frankie Nolan / Bob Crewe Ronnie, Yes, there was a single by Frankie Nolan, possibly 2, on the ABC label. On the song "I Still Care", there is a definite woman vocal lead, and you can hear Valli singing high at different times throughout the song. Nobody seems to know anything about "Frankie Nolan". Who was she?? It was definitely not frankie valli, although he appears on the record. could it have been hedy sontag, who crewe was already working with around this time?? I have not compared the voices, but it's possible. Anyone else with info on "Frankie Nolan" ?????? doowopdaddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 19:19:21 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Foskett > Kingsley Abbott: > any current discussion on classy falsettos should include > Jeff Foskett, currently with Brian Wilson's band. > http://www.new-surf.com Thanks Kingsley for the link. I was surprised to learn that Jeff once sang with Theresa Bright whom I had the pleasure of seeing perform with Hawaii's Don Tiki at the closing of the mighty Kahiki supperclub in Columbus, Ohio back in '00. Oh, what a night indeed! JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:47:31 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Andy Pratt There's a local record store owner who told me he recently heard Andy Pratt in concert. Said Andy asked him to manage him, but he's not too sure he wants to. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 06:27:37 -0000 From: Eric Charge Subject: Re: Daylight And Darkness "Daylight & Darkness" is on Smokey's solo Ultimate Collection. He has had a more recent Anthology released and I think it's there too. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 08:56:34 +0100 From: Eddy Smit Subject: Re: Four Seasons remixes Stewart: > I'm sure there must be at least one CD of remixed > Frankie Valli/Four Seasons hits out there. There's *Best of* - American Superstars (Series) on Curb CUR 7766-2 (CD), a European release from 1991. Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:58:09 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Radio & Power Pop; Eclection; melismas; Ronny & the Philharmonic; more Javed wrote: > Speaking of the 70s, I was an F.M. snob and still enjoy much > of the music mentioned over the last few days but I have to > confess that I was missing out on some of the AM gold at the > time and have come to appreciate it.... > Magic/Pilot > Moon Light Feels Right--Starbuck (included members of Eternity's > Children) > Sugar Baby Love/The Rubettes > Let Your Love Grow/Bread > Beach Baby/First Class > Some Sing Some Dance/Pagliaro > The Raspberries (actually I liked them from the get-go) Javed, you should have been in central Connecticut in the early 70's. WHCN didn't touch the Rubettes, First Class or Pagliaro (I confess to being totally unfamiliar with this name, for which I will surely be raked over the coals!). However, Raspberries and Badfinger were mainstays of our freeform/progressive station, and we did give a bit of airtime to Pilot and Big Star, as well as artists like Greg Kihn, Dwight Twilley (another mainstay and, IMO, thoroughly under-rated), the Wackers ("Hot Wacks" was a station fave), and more pop-borderline artists. I admit to having a soft spot for Bread, particularly on their "deeper" songs, such as "If", my fave by them, although Starbuck and First Class still haven't found their way into my heart. I just heard the Rubettes for the first time last year, and really like "Sugar Baby Love." I always have felt that good pop music is timeless, and am impressed at how much better is has stood the test of time than some of the more self-important bands of the 70s, like Yes (better earlier, when they cooked as well as thought), EL&P (who I always thought to be first-rate showmen but who made second-rate music, despite their popular acclaim); and even my obscure personal favorites Gentle Giant, who were towering in musical and lyrical intellect but much of whose music has not aged well. (I know there are many "fightin' words" in the above paragraph, and I expect to be roasted, but they are only my opinions, not my dictates, and I welcome yours - opinion, not dictates!) One of the most interesting radio stations I worked at was WDRC-FM, which during the mid-to-late 70's had a unique hybrid format on the border of pop and album rock - "AOR with Top 40 hits, or was it Top 40 with album cuts?" While mainstream in its execution, it always begged to be expanded some into power pop, which effectively straddled that fine line. I agree that in significant part "[p]ower pop as a movement...was also a natural extension of the core music we discuss on this list." Richard Havers: > that's not a hint to have a thread about Eclection, the > pre-Fotheringay Elektra band! But there are some astonishing tracks there, like "St. George & The Dragon," despite the fact that the drummer learned how to play between this and Fairport! [That, to me was Eclection's biggest weakness - he couldn't roll around the set in that band, but he "got good" in Fairport. More fightin' words, I'm sure:-)] This LP was another WHCN turntable hit as well. But we were also a station that gave significant of airplay to Fairport, Steeleye Span, Renaissance and Pentangle as well as the artists mentioned above. Phil Chapman: > ...worst falsetto...Dick & Dee Dee (I'm thinking of "Thou Shalt > Not Steal") Agreed - but "The Mountain's High" would be included in my best. I've always been song- and record-oriented, and the song and arrangement on "Mountain" make the sound work. By the way, Phil M., I don't blame it all on Patti Labelle, but a lot of it, certainly. Back as far as "Down The Aisle," she did some of the most ear-splitting over-the-top wailing yet committed to record. On the other hand, the single "Lady Marmalade" is tight and cookin' (if totally overplayed), and any melismas are controlled and appropriate. May I also add that I met her at that time, and a nicer and warmer person would be hard to find. Same for the rest of the trio. Jeff Lemlich: > Now for bonus points, name the link between Nashville cats > Ronny & The Daytonas and the Neon Philharmonic. Let's see...Ronny was Buck Wilkin, son of Marijohn Wilkin, proprietor of "the other" Nashville backing group (not Anita Kerr Singers or Jordanaires). The Daytonas were all Nashville session cats. Family connection somewhere? Same cats in both groups? Also, Marijohn's group did her song "Long Black Veil" on Capitol in the early 60s as The Nashville Street Singers, and I'm looking for a copy of that intense version. (Think "I Ain't Never" without Webb Pierce or Mel Tillis - and with a dash of irony). Could someone who has it play it to musica, pretty please? Worth repeating: > "NRBQ: Rock 'n' Roll's Best Kept Secret", a thoroughly > entertaining one-hour documentary that will air as part > of A&E's "Breakfast With the Arts" program on Sunday > from 8 to 10 a.m. EST, PST. Re: Joe Melson, would the song "Barbara" have been writte about Barbara Orbison, the widowed Mrs. Roy? Perhaps one of our Nashville-based members, i.e. the knowledgeable and connected Nick Archer, could find her and request any Joe Melson information she might have. Incidentally, at http://www.janetklein.com is a thumbnail bio of Ian Whitcomb as well as lots of other stuff. (Takes a long time to load on a 56K modem, though, but worth it.) Matt The Cat: Ronnie Milsap's original version of "Let's Go Get Stoned" is also on a Scepter 45. I hadn't realized there was a 2nd 45. Nice find. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:17:49 -0500 From: Teri Landi Subject: Re: Ronnie Milsap on Scepter Matt, Ronnie Milsap made many fine soulful singles for Scepter between 1965 and 1969. To my knowledge, they have not been reissued on CD save for "Never Had It So Good" which came out on the 3 disc Scepter Records Story. He also made recordings for Warner, Chips (a Chips Moman label?) and Crazy Cajun before moving to RCA. The Scepter, Chips & Warner recordings would make a great CD collection showcasing his R & B side (Razor & Tie are you listening?). I do not know the flip side of "A Thousand Miles..." but I do have these Scepter singles myself: Never Had It So Good/Let's Go Get Stoned (12109) (Prod by Stan Green) I Can't Tell A Lie/House Of The Rising Sun (12206) (Prod by Chips Moman) Do What You Gotta Do/Mr. Mailman (12228) (Prod by Chips Moman) Denver/Nothing Is As Good As It Used To Be (12246) (Prod by Chips Moman) Love Will Never Pass Us By/What's Your Game (12272) (Prod by Mark James & Glen Spreen) Other non-Scepter singles I know the existence of are: It Went To Your Head/???? (Warner 5405) (1963) Loving You Is A Natural Thing/??? (Chips 2889) (1970) A Rose By Any Other Name/Sermonette (Chips 2987) (1970) Incidentally, the backing tracks for "Never Had It So Good", "Do What You Gotta Do" and "Mr. Mailman" are the same tracks that were used for the B.J. Thomas recordings, also produced by Chips Moman. B.J. of course was also on Scepter. Teri Landi -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:56:22 -0500 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Re: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop Update Martin: > Hi all, the Record Of The Week at > http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm > is Daniel A. Stone's "It Must Be Raining" on Capitol Better go there now before we get into trouble! Thanks, Martin Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:27:54 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Four Seasons remixes > Stewart: > I'm sure there must be at least one CD of remixed > Frankie Valli/Four Seasons hits out there. Eddy: > There's *Best of* - American Superstars (Series) on Curb > CUR 7766-2 (CD), a European release from 1991. Yea, it's HORRIBLE. They put "Disco" Backing to the songs. Totally worthless. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:30:18 -0000 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re: Ronnie Milsap on Scepter Another Ronnie Milsap 45 on Scepter was "Ain't No Soul (Left In These Old Shoes)"/"Another Branch From The Old Tree" (12161) - beloved of not just Northern soul fans but also us Bubblegum nuts who know that an early Levine/Resnick composition can be found on the A-side. It was produced by Huey Meaux. As usual Record Master should have all the answers at http://www.recordmaster.com Regards, Guy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 23:08:33 -0000 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: More Ronnie Milsap Incidentally Ronnie's "Ain't No Soul" has been reissued on CD. It's available on Kent's "Dancing 'Til Dawn", a compilation of Northern soul favourites from the Wand and Scepter labels. Details at http://www.acerecords.co.uk Guy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:06:31 -0000 From: Charles Ellis Subject: Re: Ronnie Milsap on Scepter Teri Landi: > Ronnie Milsap made many fine soulful singles for Scepter between > 1965 and 1969. To my knowledge, they have not been reissued on CD > save for "Never Had It So Good" which came out on the 3 disc > Scepter Records Story. How about posting one or two of the Scepter songs on musica - I have the Scepter Records StoryBox set, and just love "Never Had It So Good"!! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 01:31:27 -0000 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Re: Ronny & the Philharmonic Jeff Lemlich: > Now for bonus points, name the link between Nashville cats > Ronny & The Daytonas and the Neon Philharmonic. > Country Paul: Let's see...Ronny was Buck Wilkin, son of > Marijohn Wilkin, proprietor of "the other" Nashville backing > group (not Anita Kerr Singers or Jordanaires). The Daytonas > were all Nashville session cats. Family connection somewhere? The session cats -- actually, one in particular, is the link. Jerry Carrigan played drums for both Ronny & The Daytonas and the Neon Philharmonic. In between he could be heard on "Listen To The Band" by the Monkees, and not too long after his credits grew to include some guy named Presley. Jeff Lemlich http://www.limestonerecords.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:35:56 -0000 From: Claus Subject: Mae West backing group Greetings from Denmark Can anyone help me with info on Mae West - Way Out West (Tower) album. The cover mentions a dynamic young group called Somebody's Children. The album was arranged by David Mallet, Jim Horn and David Allen. It must be Dave Allen from all the Tower soundtracks. But is the superb guitar work on this album also played by Dave Allen? Regards, Claus at http://home19.inet.tele.dk/peakimp/00.html -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:55:28 -0000 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Christmas in January Pt 1 - Where The Girls Are Vol.5 The postman delivered two marvellous parcels today (more on the other in Part 2). After a quick check with Sue that it wasn't my birthday, the first one was ripped open..... The anticipation and long wait are finally over. M&M's latest triumph has been released, "Where The Girls Are 5: a decade of Columbia femme pop". And it is fab - first impression is that it is the best looking compilation Mick and Malcolm have been involved with; the pictures are priceless and the layout great, with a squint I could even read without my specs. The articles on each artist are of the type that will have any girl who ever sang a good 60s tune twitching the nets to see if Mick is rummaging through her locker. Fabulous mini essays on every artist featured - did you know that Christine Costello, the lead singer of The Bootiques and writer of "Did You Get Your Fun", is comedy star Lou's daughter? This and loads more in the 16-page booklet. And the sound quality is outstanding. I'd forgotten quite how good April Young's "Gonna Make Him My Baby" or Becky & the Lollipops "My Boyfriend" are, and now the sound fair jumps out of the speakers. Add to the aforementioned, groups such as The Orchids, Surfer Girls, Pussycats and solo girls Dorothy Jones, Bernadette Peters, Jan Tanzy plus loads more. My advice is don't bother waiting 'til June for the latest Harry Potter, start queueing at Tower Records tonight! Or visit the Ace website at: http://www.acerecords.co.uk/gotrt/jan03/cdchd823.html Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 23:21:14 -0000 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Christmas in January Pt 2 - All American Boys The second package I received contained the latest book by Stephen McParland, the hardest working publisher and writer connected with pop, on the beginnings of The Walker Brothers. Despite his enormous output (what is it now, a new book every fortnight?!) the wonderful thing is the quality doesn't suffer, the books just get better and better. This latest, despite Scott Engel's surf connected roots, charts new waters for Stephen - his "Landlocked" perhaps? Another departure is the marvellous full colour cover, it looks, and is a very classy tome. I guess the Walker Brothers and particularly Scott's story in the UK is fairly well documented but this book really ends when the boys board the plane for fame and glory in Britain. If you think you know what they were up to in the previous years be prepared for some surprises! The information, interviews and story telling make this an essential purchase for anyone interested in early sixties Californian pop. Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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