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Spectropop - Digest Number 742

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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Bobby Darin
           From: Mike Rashkow 
      2. Re: Holy Mackerel appeal
           From: Dan Hughes 
      3. Re: The Metropolitan Soul Show Requests
           From: Amber 
      4. Re: Wrangler Stretch Bluebell recording
           From: Jeff 
      5. East Meets West
           From: Steve Harvey 
      6. Re: Fading Yellow
           From: Carol-Anne Lennie 
      7. Re: "Top Exec Is Leaving Sony"
           From: Mike Rashkow 
      8. Re: Northern Soul Cover-Ups
           From: Jon Cook 
      9. Re: Fading Yellow
           From: Richard Havers 
     10. Re: The 4 Seasons
           From: James Botticelli 
     11. Mrs Wilson's records / Penny Valentine
           From: Richard Williams 
     12. Re: Christine Cooper
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     13. Lonely weekends. Ahh
           From: Martin Roberts 
     14. Soul Harmony Book
           From: Paul Lewis 
     15. Re: 4 Seasons/D.C.LaRue
           From: Don Baylis 
     16. Re: The 4 Seasons
           From: Martin Roberts 
     17. Mikie (Harris) & The Ardons
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     18. Re: Northern Soul
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     19. Re: The Metropolitan Soul Show Requests
           From: Simon White 
     20. Re: Northern Soul Cover-Ups
           From: Simon White 
     21. Re: Northern Soul Cover-Ups
           From: Eddy Smit 
     22. Re: The 4 Seasons
           From: Artie Wayne 
     23. Re: The 4 Seasons
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     24. Doodles Weaver
           From: Jorgen Johansson 
     25. Re: Sony Music update
           From: Mike Edwards 


Message: 1
   Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:13:58 EST
   From: Mike Rashkow 
Subject: Re: Bobby Darin

Kingsley Abbott:
> Help please gang - does anyone know who played drums on Bobby Darin's 
> 'La Mer'?  An ex-big band drummer maybe - any help appreciated.

I asked this a while back and got nothing difinitive.  I think it was 
Louis Bellson because it sounds like double bass drums.  I got shot 
down on that theory. Whoever it was made the record.


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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 09:26:13 -0600 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Re: Holy Mackerel appeal Barry Vaughan writes: > Does anyone have the Holy Mackerel album for trade, or something? > Desperate to hear it...Thanks! Hi Barry, I have a well-worn copy I could put on cassette for you if nobody else responds.... ---Dan, Champaign, IL -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:07:28 -0000 From: Amber Subject: Re: The Metropolitan Soul Show Requests The Utterly Marvellous Simon White wrote: > This Sunday 12th January 2003 on Soul 24-7 7pm-9pm GMT at: > The METROPOLITAN SOUL > SHOW. Any requests before Sunday please. Please Mister DJ, be a doll and play me "Nothing Takes The Place Of You" by Toussaint McCall, "You'll Lose A Good Thing" by Barbara Lynn, "Shake A Tail Feather" by the Five Du-Tones, "Foot Stompin'" by the Flares, "The Roach" by Gene & Wendell, "Mama Didn't Lie" (sigh) by Jan Bradley or "I'm Blue" by the Ikettes. I'll be listening, honey. And if you see Corny Collins on your travels, tell him Amber says "Hi". A.v.T. xxx -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:57:17 -0000 From: Jeff Subject: Re: Wrangler Stretch Bluebell recording Back in May 2002 someone uploaded The Wrangler Stretch to the musica section but it's no longer there. It was recorded by a group I believe was called the Pirouettes. If anyone knows how I can hear this promotional record from the 1960's, please let me know. It was a paper like record put out by Wrangler jeans. There was a sister song called The Wrangler Shake which I already have. Many thanks. Jeff -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 09:09:51 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: East Meets West > "No Surfing Today" was the B-side of "Dawn", and a rebuttal to the > Beach Boys LP track "Sufers Rule" (where they sing "4 Seasons, you > better believe it"). Interesting when you mention the rivalry between the Hawthorne Hotshots vs. the boyz from Joisy. Does anyone remember their collaboration single, East Meets West. It was was the one collaboration that the Beach Boys did that was a really great tune. Shame that every single I came across of it skipped. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:41:40 -0000 From: Carol-Anne Lennie Subject: Re: Fading Yellow I received Fading Yellow 1, 02 and 3 today and these comps (Mark F. was right - very obscure material!) would certainly appeal to anyone who digs the Ripples comps (count me in there). A majority, I would say, of the tracks are of the autumnal, minor-key variety with all the requisite West Coast trappings (soft harmonies, harpsichords, twelve- string guitars, delicate string arrangements, etc). Lovely stuff. More volumes are in the works :-) (BTW, Kingsley, as of last weekend [when I was last there] at least one vol. was available in Minus Zero/Stand Out records off Portobello Road.) C-A x -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:19:42 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: "Top Exec Is Leaving Sony" >'s not to the liking of Sir Howard Stringer, the chief > executive of the Sony... ANOTHER SUIT. Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:00:41 EST From: Jon Cook Subject: Re: Northern Soul Cover-Ups Hello - I had originally heard the story behind 'White Label' records was that DJs in the 90s would do their own mixes of copyrighted material and then sell them, but with white labels with little printed on them outside of a title and not much else, leaving no info that could be traced back to them should there be legal problems. Then later I read a story on Northern Soul in which it was related that DJs of this genre were always looking for a new obscure single to introduce to the dancefloor - this differentiated the real talent from the followers. To keep a record 'exclusive' they would cover the label with a white sticker so any prying eyes could not find a title or artist name, thereby discouraging any competitors from getting the same song. Hence, this was said to be the start of the term 'White Label'. Which is true? Just curious. jon cook -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:05:04 +0000 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: Fading Yellow Carol-Anne Lennie wrote: > I received Fading Yellow 1, 02 and 3 today... Just ordered Vols 2 & 3 from the Freak Emporium web site.......No.1 is on back order. Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:05:41 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: The 4 Seasons Leonardo Flores wrote: > Yes, my favorite band has got to be the 4 Seasons and Bob Crewe group > of people. I was at a record shop today and picked up the Seasons LP doing Bacharach and Dylan. The shop wanted $15 for it! I also got 3 Gene Pitney LP's, including the Italian one, Chad & Jeremy's "Distant Shores" LP, & Spanky & Our Gangs' Greatest Hits..these all being more moderately priced at $5.99/ea, stereo near mint... JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:40:23 +0000 From: Richard Williams Subject: Mrs Wilson's records / Penny Valentine Peter Lerner wrote: > Recent talk of the Honeys reminds me that a magazine interview with > Jackie DeShannon, sometime in the 70s I think, said she was great > pals with Marilyn Wilson and that she (Jackie) was producing an > album for Marilyn. Does anyone know anything about this?>> I think I may be able to shed some light on this. When I was an A&R man at Island Records in the mid-Seventies, Marilyn and I talked about doing a record. I'd interviewed her a year or two earlier for the Melody Maker, when the American Spring album came out, and she'd invited me to their house in Bel Air a few months afterwards. She wanted to make a solo record, and she suggested that Jackie DeShannon might produce it. That sounded fine to me, and I had a phone conversation with Jackie in which she indicated her interest. We talked about songs, but all I remember about that is asking her to consider "What Am I Going To Do With You (Hey Baby)", which I had in the Inspirations' version on a cassette given to me by Andy Paley (then with the Sidewinders -- anyone remember "Rendezvous"?. Anyway I was coming to the end of my time at Island, where there was more intereste in Sparks than in girl-group songs done by Beach Boy wives, and the project dissolved. So, belatedly, I'd like to offer an apology to all Spectropoppers for failing to bring it off. We'd have bought it, wouldn't we? PS: Penny Valentine, the wonderful singles reviewer for Disc and Music Echo in the '60s, died on Thursday night after a long illness. I used to go out and buy records just on her say-so, and there weren't many who could do that. A fabulously lovely person, too, right up to the end. I'd writing an obituary for Monday's Guardian, and there's one thing I need to clear up in a hurry: who was the Penny Valentine who recorded "I Want To Kiss Ringo Goodbye", a 1965 Liberty single? Info gratefully received at -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:15:10 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Christine Cooper > Richie Cordell and Sal Trimachi were also behind a few Northern spins, > most notably "Heartaches Away My Boy" by Christine Cooper and "Love, > It's Getting Better" by the Groove. As well as "SOS Heart In Distress", which I think was first. Artie Butler was the arranger, BG vocals by Jean Thomas, Mikie Harris and Ellie Greenwich. Overdubbed in Bell Sound studio C. I have a lead sheet marked up for the remix. Hey--what can I tell you, I vas dere. Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 00:03:12 -0000 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Lonely weekends. Ahh Hans wrote: > Thanks for the opportunity to listen to Them's "I'm Waiting" for the > first time in my life. My pleasure, hope it was worth the wait! But Hans also experienced problems with a shortened listen and other S'poppers have written about trouble in getting the track to play at all. Sorry about that, normal service will be resumed as soon as possible. I was very tempted to have the Jack Nitzsche-arranged, Ray Ruff-produced, Charlie Rich-written, 1969 released version of "Lonely Weekends" by Them do battle against the Jack Nitzsche-arranged, Ray Ruff-produced, Charlie Rich-written, 1969 released version of "Lonely Weekends" by Tony Ray! It will do battle one day, I just hope you don't have to wait 25 years! Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 01:03:04 +0000 From: Paul Lewis Subject: Soul Harmony Book Hello I just recently bought an excellent CD by Candy and The Kisses called "Do The 81 & Other Soul Classics". In the sleeve notes the authors refer to a book entitled "Soul Harmony Singles 1960-1990" and I was wondering where I could purchase a copy. I have searched over the net for a few days and have had no luck. Maybe its out of print or published by a small publisher with no web prescence. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 01:43:09 -0000 From: Don Baylis Subject: Re: 4 Seasons/D.C.LaRue To my ears the best track issued by these guys is 'My Sugar', the flip of 'Peanuts', VJ-717. I also have to give the nod to two of their later recordings, a very well done '(Who Wrote) The Book Of Love' on Curb, 1986, and the FBI joint venture with the Beach Boys of 'East Meets West'. Still and all, pretty well everything they did was excellent, making the choice most difficult. A question though .. would the 4 Seasons have been anywhere near as good, or as big, if they had not teamed up with Bob Crewe ??? > Matthew Reid - any song by Matthew Reid (actually David C. L'Hereaux) > on ABC or Topix and possibly the Scepter single feature the 4 Seasons > on backup vocals. Later in the 1970s Reid reappeared in Canada as the > disco singer D.C. LaRue. Very interesting to learn this. D.C. LaRue released a couple of albums that feature tracks by Lou Christie .. 1976's "The Tea Dance" has 'Don't Keep It In the Shadows', and from 1980, the "Star Baby" LP has Lou going off "Into the Ozone". Don Baylis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 00:58:52 -0000 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: The 4 Seasons Very pleasing to read Stuart's posting about the - The Unofficially Official web fan site. Had a look round and wooo classy! A great looking site with some marvelous pages of pics, news, sheet music and a fair to middlin' discography :) If they have the space it would seem the perfect home for Kingsley's Four Seasons/Bob Gaudio interview. As Leonardo wrote, the Calello interview is priceless, must have been as much a thrill to conduct it, as it is to read. I certainly did not find this site when I had my mooch around yesterday, very highly recommended. Stuart commented regarding the discography: > This is not an easy process, is very slow going, and to do the > job properly depends heavily upon the co-operation of the > individuals concerned, In my work on Jack Nitzsche's site I've found that often the main participants not only cannot recall the details but they are usually even unaware of the records' release. I've found you need to find and confirm the records and then try and get them verified! As promised, two more 'Seasonal' records are playing on musica - Evan Mitchell & Ronnie Michaels. Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 01:54:13 -0000 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Mikie (Harris) & The Ardons Mike Rashkow wrote: > Artie Butler was the arranger, BG vocals by Jean Thomas, Mikie Harris > and Ellie Greenwich. For Rashkovsky, John Clemente, Mick Patrick, or anyone else who might know: Who was on the Mikie & The Ardons "Three's A Crowd" recording? Since it goes back to the Sarasota days, could Jean Thomas also be on there? I only have it on the second label (Gallant). Does anyone have this on the first label (Mam'selle), and is the flip ("Donnie") the Rickie Page/Bermudas song? Thanks, Jeff Lemlich -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:25:13 -0000 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Re: Northern Soul Simon White wrote: > Compare it to the Del Larks' "Job Opening", for instance, which > is rare and soul, but couldn't be a pop hit in a million years > because it is a wonderful, messy, noisy, racket. It was one of > those records which almost seem to have been made with Northern > Soul in mind! [And they exist too! Excellent example, Simon! Soul with a capital S, without any polish or gloss. "There's a job opening, UHHHHHH, for a serious heart mender"... with that "UHHHHHH" being as important as the words themselves! This will soon be going -- UHHHHHH -- onto musica! One thing I love about Northern Soul is the wide range of sounds under its umbrella -- from sloppy white garage bands, to everything that sounds remotely like "Downtown", to the grittier sounds laid down in uptown basement studios. And of course there's never any politics, especially in London :) Jeff Lemlich -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:23:00 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Re: The Metropolitan Soul Show Requests Amber, your wish is my command. Coincidentally, I have just returned from a 60th birthday do, and the deejay played "Shake A Tail Feather" and the crowd went nuts. It was of course neither the Five Dutones nor the James and Bobby Purify but an inferior Blues Bros version. But beggars can't be choosers and we all shook a tail feather anyway, some of us more than one in fact. And thanks for reminding me where I have "I'm Blue", one of the sexiest tracks ever. I don't have it on a 45! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:28:01 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Northern Soul Cover-Ups As far as I'm aware, in Northern terms, "white label" was generally just a demo - many/most promo copies being white. White labels as such must have come later with 12' singles I think. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:35:23 +0100 From: Eddy Smit Subject: Re: Northern Soul Cover-Ups Northern Soul Cover-Ups were to prevent other people from seeing the label, is what I always heard. Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:03:42 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: The 4 Seasons Mike.......I produced singles on Matthew Reid for Decca and Phillips.... and we didn't use the 4 Seasons on background vocals. Unfortunately I no longer have copies. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:59:02 -0000 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Re: The 4 Seasons Peter Lerner: > My fave Seasons track? No question - "No Surfing Today". It was the > B-side of one of their 60s singles. Radio Caroline (North) used to > play it to death. Beautiful arrangement - great vocals. Oh! Peter you just shook up my brain. I haven't heard or thought about that track since I last heard it on Radio Caroline North. They really used to play it to death, along with Charlie Rich "Mohair Sam". I now have a beautiful pristine MP3 of it nestling near to me, it will never fly away again. And--and---Frankie Valli on his own "The Girl I'll Never Know" (Angels Never Fly This Low) breaks my heart. Gotta go. Ken On The West Coast (really made up!) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:40:06 -0000 From: Jorgen Johansson Subject: Doodles Weaver For many years I've been trying to find out if DOODLES WEAVER's version of "Eleanor Rigby" was ever released as a 45. I've got his HILARIOUS (understatement!) version on the Dr. Demento's Delights - Warner Bros LP BS 2855, 1975. Any info, and even better, if anybody out there has a copy of the 45(?) for trade/sale, is MUCH appreciated! Regards, JJ/Sweden -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:33:11 -0000 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Re: Sony Music update Rashkovsky writes in reference to Sir Howard Stringer, the chief executive of Sony Of America: > ANOTHER SUIT. But, there's more. Today's Business Day section of the New York Times (Jan 11) reports that Sony has appointed Andrew Lack the former President and COO of NBC (who will not be replaced at NBC i.e. a real winner!) as the replacement for Thomas Mottola, the departing chief of Sony Music. Mr. Lack's experience in the music business? Zero as the NY Times says he has "no background in the music business". The article concludes with a quote from Tom Freston, Chairman of MTV: "Is dealing with Dan Rather really that much different from dealing with Bob Dylan?" Oh my god!! My advice to fellow Spectropoppers is to keep those turntables oiled because there is nothing coming down the pike. Good to know that we've still got one of our own, Doug Morris, at the head of Universal Music Group. Doug wrote "Sweet Talking Guy" for the Manhattan Transfer :-) I hope Mr. Lack knows that. Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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