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Spectropop - Digest Number 739

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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)

There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Four Seasons
           From: Norman 
      2. Jeff & Ellie 45
           From: Stephane Rebeschini 
      3. Phil Spector - Top 40 Hits?
           From: Richard Havers 
      4. Scepter listing
           From: Mike Edwards 
      5. Jeff and Ellie/Down 5
           From: Stuffed Animal 
      6. Re. More on Artie Wayne
           From: Phil Milstein 
      7. Bernadette; Belmonts
           From: Phil Milstein 
      8. Artie Butler
           From: Patrick 
      9. Sorry, more Lovey Kravezit!
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     10. Philles Musicassette in America
           From: "Peter Richmond" 
     11. Re: Bon-Aires
           From: Martin Roberts 
     12. Re: Chuck Barris; Eddie Rambeau
           From: James Botticelli 
     13. Re: Northern Soul
           From: Simon White 


Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 18:54:50 +1030
   From: Norman 
Subject: Four Seasons

Stuart Miller wrote on the 4 Seasons:
> You should hear their version of "Tambourine Man".

Next to "Queen Jane Approximately" this is one of my favourite 
tracks on the Rhino CD.

Because of the stereo separation I like playing with the 
balance control...groovy.


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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 10:39:45 +0100 From: Stephane Rebeschini Subject: Jeff & Ellie 45 Ian Chapman a écrit: > Just browsing through some old issues of Billboard and > Cashbox tonight, as you do, and a couple of things caught > my eye: > First, in an April '67 issue, a full-page ad for a new > single by a 4-guy group called The Down 5, entitled "I'm > Takin' It Home"/"Show Me" on the Parrot label, produced by > Jeff Barry & Ellie Greenwich. I've never heard this - can > anyone give us a quickie review? Hi I have this single and I would describe it as a male NY Italo/American R&B/soul group, with songs composed by Dennis Carbone, one sounding a lot like "99 1/2 (Won't Do)". It was indeed produced by Jeff Barry & Ellie Greenwich. Stephane -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 10:21:53 +0000 From: Richard Havers Subject: Phil Spector - Top 40 Hits? On a trivia note, can anyone tell me exactly how many Top 40 hits Phil had in the USA? As a producer, rather than covers of Phil's songs. Thanks Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 10:30:47 -0500 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Scepter listing Phil Milstein asks: > Anyone know where I can find a (more or less) comprehensive > Scepter 45s discography? All I'm after at the moment is the > main label, rather than all those groovy subsids. Phil, go to: Set up a search under "label" and 7". This URL appears in the panel on the left of Spectropop main page. The resultant format may have its limitations but it will get you going at the click of your mouse button. Good hunting and don't forget that one by Beverly Bremers called "Don't Say You Don't Remember". Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:36:33 +0000 From: Stuffed Animal Subject: Jeff and Ellie/Down 5 Ian Chapman asked about: > ....a full-page ad for a new single by a 4-guy group called > The Down 5, entitled "I'm Takin' It Home"/"Show Me" on the > Parrot label, produced by Jeff Barry & Ellie Greenwich. I've > never heard this - can anyone give us a quickie review? This is probably the last project Jeff Barry and Ellie Greenwich worked on as a production team. Both sides are written by Dennis Carbone (presumably the lead singer), and they sound very much like Jeff's work with The Illusion. Stuffed Animal -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 11:05:46 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re. More on Artie Wayne Artie Wayne wrote: > Jeff......Thanks for playing "Automated Man" to musica. > I must have recorded it in the sixties......I don't remember > a thing about it!!!! Great record, Artie, even if you do draw a blank on it yourself. By the way, are you the same Artie Wayne who got to pose (or at least, superim-pose) with Anita Ekberg for an LP cover? I saw a copy on the wall of a collector's store the other day, but when I asked about its availability was informed that it's Not For Sale At Any Price. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 11:42:15 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Bernadette; Belmonts Anyone know of any interviews in which Bernadette Peters discusses her early recording career? On another matter, the recent musica posting of "Diddle De Dum" by The Song Spinners was billed there as a Belmonts cover. Listening to it, however, I can't help but wonder if it's not merely a cover but rather the Bronx boys themselves. The backing vocals in particular are strikingly similar to their sound. Might they actually have covered themselves on that one? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 17:42:13 -0000 From: Patrick Subject: Artie Butler I'm pretty sure Artie Butler has been discussed here - but has anyone seen his website? Tremendous! Check it out: Check out the soundbites area for his story on "Sally Go `Round The Roses" by the Jaynetts. And there's so much more too - I'm still checking out the site and there's a lot more to investigate. Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 18:12:06 -0000 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Sorry, more Lovey Kravezit! This has to be one of our more bizarre threads but I'm afraid I can't resist adding to it...I own the following: Vic Dana - "Lovey Kravezit"/"Hello Roomate" (Verna Blackwell) Dolton Records NO.317 (Inspired by the Columbia Picture "The Silencers") Prod. Bob Reisdorff Arr. Tommy Oliver The dealer I bought it from told me it was "bubblegum". That sure ain't what I'd call it! Regards, Guy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:11:12 -0000 From: "Peter Richmond" Subject: Philles Musicassette in America Ian Chapman wrote: > The other interesting item was included in a feature on "the > musicassette in America". There were listings of available > cassette album titles for all the major labels, and I was > surprised to see Philles included. Although there was only > one title available (the Righteous Brothers' "You've Lost > That Lovin' Feelin'"), I don't think I was aware that there > was any official "from the time" Philles cassette product. > How rare are they? (Peter R. .......??) I wasn't aware of it either! Peter. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:20:06 -0000 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: Bon-Aires Billy asked, > One of my favorite 4-Seasons sound alikes was the > Bon-Aires' "Bye-Bye" on Rust 5077, 1964. I only have > an mp3 of it - does anyone have the producer/arranger > info? Being on Rust Records, I'm wondering if there's > any Bright Tunes (aka The Tokens) involvement??? Close, very very close..... written and produced Neil Levenson. Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 15:27:50 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Chuck Barris; Eddie Rambeau Rosemarie wrote: > ...but then I am allowed - I have heard "Summertime Guy" I too have heard "Summertime Guy", still have the single in fact! It was played at a small Top-40 radio station down the street from my house in Lexington MA called WCOP-AM. I met Shelly Fabares there when she was on the road promoting "Johnny Angel". We used to go in and watch the DJ eddie eddie eddie eddie eddie eddie mi--tchellll who later went on to become Emperor Fenway, the morning man on 1510 WMEX, home of Arnie Woo Woo Ginsberg. JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 21:11:03 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Northern Soul Mike Edwards wrote: > Simon, I wonder if you would share some thoughts with us. > At the back of his Northern Soul 500 book, Kev Roberts > lists northern soul top-10s from the late 60s to the present. > The early lists feature somewhat well known records such > as "You're Ready Now" and the Impressions' "You've Been > Cheating". The later lists are made up of titles that are > totally unknown outside of the Northern Soul Scene. Couple > that with the fact that some of the earlier items such as > "You're Ready Now" have no credibility on the Northern Scene > these days and an "outsider" wonders what the reasons are > for this shift. I would be interested in your feedback. > Oh yes and I did love that Ral Donner 45 you played on the > Metropolitan Soul Show a couple of weeks' back. Was it > "Don't Let It Slip Away"? Don't really know if there is an answer to all this, Mike, but... The scene's history goes way back to when some of the records mentioned were current, hence the Impressions for instance. In the sixties, U.S. soul imports were not that common in the U.K., and as the Northern Soul scene developed, more records had to be found to fuel the interest. Certain deejays had direct access to the States and this, coupled with the mass cheap import of 45s [sometimes as ships ballast, it seems] led to the explosion of rare U.S. soul on the scene. But Northern Soul has always been a two-sided thing - danceability and collectability. Therefore, 45s like "You're Ready Now", which is very danceable [and Northern Soul has a VERY distinct dance style] but not rare, will have appealed to the less 'hip' amongst the Northern crowd, but not to the hardcore Soul fans - because it is a pop record after all. Compare it to the Del Larks' "Job Opening", for instance, which is rare and soul, but couldn't be a pop hit in a million years because it is a wonderful, messy, noisy, racket. It was one of those records which almost seem to have been made with Northern Soul in mind! [And they exist too!] In between all this, and remembering there was intense rivalry between clubs and deejays to find obscure things no one else had, 45s were played that had no real soul connection, but the beat was right and they were rare - at least until more turned up, which, most often, they did. Therefore, Julius Wechter's "Along Comes Mary" (remember neither he nor the song meant a thing in the U.K.); Mike Post's "Afternoon Of The Rhino"; the Righteous Brothers' "Rat Race" - all of which were part of an instrumental phase the Northern Scene went through - were big Northern tracks. Similarly, U.S. hits like the Outsiders' "Time Wont Let Me" and Spiral Staircase's "MoreToday Than Yesterday" are all well-known on the scene yet have little credibility [although the Outsiders is a personal favourite] For another instance, Vlaovic B just asked: - > Was the record "Out Of My Mind" by Rain a Northern Soul 'hit'? > I thought I'd noted it on a compilation once, but wasn't sure > and in fact couldn't believe it! This was indeed a Northern-played track from the 'poppier' end. It was played at The Wigan Casino, the best-known and the most commercial of the Northern venues and again, was something you couldn't get away with playing now! It's on a CD: "Wigan Casino Story - The Final Chapter". The Northern Scene shrank to die-hards and collectors in the Eighties and early Nineties and by that time a lot of records were either 'played out' i.e. over-played, or didn't fit the accepted Northern criteria, being too slow perhaps. But the last ten years or so have seen a move towards a more beat-ballad sound [think early sixties Drifters] and more recently, a bluesier r'n'b sound. So the emphasis has shifted again. Really though, putting a finger on it is difficult. Any one who's interested could do worse than type the phrase "Northern Soul" into Google and look at what comes up. It is a very mad, passionate scene, believe me. To be honest, you either know when something is "Northern" or not! Have a listen to my show: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This Sunday 12th January 2003 on Soul 24-7 7pm-9pm GMT The Metropolitan Soul Show 2 hours of Northern Soul. This week - The Utterly Marvellous Simon White. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I'm always happy to do dedications and requests (best placed in advance of the show) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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