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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop Update
           From: Martin Roberts 
      2. Re: Three questions
           From: Mikey 
      3. Re: Lucy in London
           From: Phil Chapman 
      4. brian wilson/Jive 5
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
      5. Re: I Love Lucid
           From: Phil Milstein 
      6. Re: Da doo ron ron by Mick Jagger ????
           From: Teri Landi 
      7. Two out of three ain't bad.
           From: Martin Roberts 
      8. Hit Records and Power Records
           From: Dan Hughes 
      9. Richie Gottehrer
           From: Richard Williams 
     10. Re:  Pollyanna
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     11. Re: Riddler; Billy Joe Royal
           From: Mike Edwards 
     12. Re: Da doo ron ron by Mick Jagger ????
           From: Denis Gagnon 
     13. Re: Beach Boys Sequence from TAMI Show
           From: Lee 
     14. Hang on Sloopy
           From: Alan Gordon 
     15. Feldman-Goldstein-Gottehrer
           From: Mike Edwards 
     16. The Pixies Three
           From: Doc 
     17. Re: Brian Wilson Productions CD
           From: Bob Wallis 
     18. Re: Lucy in London
           From: Hans Ket 
     19. Barbara Alston
           From: Stuffed Animal 
     20. Re: The Ronettes' Cousin Elaine
           From: Sean in Philly 
     21. Re: Hit Records and Power Records
           From: Mikey 
     22. Re: Three questions
           From: James Botticelli 
     23. Re: Frank Gorshin
           From: Phil Milstein 
     24. Re: Johnny Young
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     25. Classics IV / Tommy Roe / Savage Lost
           From: Mike Edwards 


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Message: 1
   Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 01:16:39 -0000
   From: Martin Roberts 
Subject: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop Update

The legion of Spectropop Albert Cernick fans have decisively 
pushed Gayla Peevey into touch. So, to my surprise and delight, 
Guy Mitchell with "Have I Told You Lately That I Love You" 
is the first 2003 Record of The Week.
Maybe I shouldn't have described Jamie Horton's 45 as a 'dreamy 
country ballad'?
This week, let battle commence between two late '60s rockers: 
Them and Tony Ray.
Another new KHJ radio jingle and I'm as excited as you are 
wondering what title Phil will come up with this week!
A great beginning of the New Year for me, after many weeks a 
new record to hunt...the discography has been updated.
Happy New Year

Martin

PS - I had some friends round over the holidays and they recorded 
some seasonal messages for the site - nice of them but I wish 
they'd have helped with the washing up!





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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 12:37:20 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Three questions Andrew Jones: > Second question: Billy Joe Royal's DOWN IN THE BOONDOCKS album opens > with a song called "Pollyanna". I'm sure I've heard this tune by some > other act, a Four Seasons-style vocal group (though not the Seasons > themselves). Anyone know who it could've been? Right!!! The group was The Classics, who the next year renamed themselves "The Classics 4" and had hit after hit, like "Traces", "Stormy", "Spooky", ect. You will not find a better Four Seasons rip off song anywhere!!!! I've heard that Frankie Valli and the guys were FURIOUS when they heard "Pollyanna". "Pollyanna" appears in magnificent stereo on Taragon's "Dennis Yost and the Classics 4". Hope this helps. Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 17:49:40 -0000 From: Phil Chapman Subject: Re: Lucy in London David A Young: > Originally broadcast in the States on October 24, 1966, "Lucy in London" > includes a montage sequence in which the a song of that name, written, > performed, and produced by an offscreen Phil Spector, is used as the > musical backdrop for much self-conscious psychedelia. Theoretically, one > can view this video clip at the link below: > http://www.youns.com/lucy/videospecials.asp Thanks for the link, David. Finding this was a great way to kick off the new year. I wasn't able to view the videoclip, although just about remember its UK airing, but managed to grab the sound. Fun to hear Spectorised quotes from our National Anthem and The Skaters Waltz! However, I don't think it sounds like Phil singing, in fact it's more like a fully-produced MFQ track(?) Now where can I get a decent copy?? Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 17:50:51 -0000 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: brian wilson/Jive 5 Following the recent mention of Ace records' new issue, the one in question is called "Pet Projects - The Brian Wilson Productions" Ace CDCHD 851 due for release on Feb 10th. It has all the expected goodies (23 tracks) though no Ron Wilson as the orig masters couldn't be found I believe. Also no Bob & Bobby. Before that issue, they tell me that a new volume of "Where The Girls Are" is due. In true Pavlovian style, I salivate... maybe Mick can tell us a bit more?? On the Jive 5, I'd love to see their later UA material out on CD - I have the "I'm A Happy Man" album, which has long been a fave - great songs - no filler there...also a very good line up of the group, with an especially rich bass voice on it. One of the later real true Doo Wop albums, but with sixties production/songwriting /production values! Happy and peaceful 2003 to all Kingsley -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 13:05:18 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: I Love Lucid Steve Harvey wrote: > Jerry Yester of the MFQ, later the Spoonful, sang > "This Could Be the Night" that starts the TNT flick. > Never released officially until the 70s when it came > out on a compilation of unreleased Phil Spector stuff. > So if the guy singing on the Lucy special is the same > one that sang on the TNT it has to be Jerry. Brian > Wilson's favorite Spector tune, by the way. Correct me if the chronology doesn't check out, but This Could Be The Night always struck me as Spector's response to Pet Sounds - that chromatic harmonica, in particular. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 13:17:39 -0500 From: Teri Landi Subject: Re: Da doo ron ron by Mick Jagger ???? Richard H: > It will probably be a demo of the Andrew Oldham Orchestra, with > Mick on vocals from September 1964. It was produced by John Paul > Jones of Led Zep fame. John Paul Jones was likely a session musician or possibly an arranger (Mike Leander generally arranged the Andrew Oldham Orchestra recordings) but he did not produce ALO recordings. Andrew himself was the producer on these. Teri Landi -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 18:43:25 -0000 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Two out of three ain't bad. Hi Andrew, I haven't heard Frank Gorshin's "Never Let Her Go" but a lady close to my heart has a video of him singing "The Riddler" on The Dean Martin Show. I'm sure the visuals add a lot but I'd suggest worth seeking out for the A Side. Re Pollyanna; I'd guess one of two recordings. Either John Corey on VJ, produced Bob Crewe and co written with Bob Gaudio or Evan Mitchell on Mala, 'A Bob Crewe Production', arranged & conducted by Callelo. Both have the same - to these ears - Four Seasons backing track. Martin PS Bit of a typo regarding Guy Mitchell his winning did not 'surprise and delight' but hearing the 45 for the first time should! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 12:42:29 -0600 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Hit Records and Power Records Is there a web site for Hit Records? I have one: The Night Has a Thousand Eyes, by Joe Cash b/w Loop De Loop by Herbert Hunter. Who are they really? Also, there was a similar budget knockoff label in Newark. It was called Power, and I have one single on that label: Ruby Ann, by Michael Reed b/w You Are My Sunshine by A. Starr. (The hit versions were by Marty Robbins and Ray Charles). The Power label is orange, and in tiny letters at the bottom it says "S.P.C. Newark, N.J." Anybody know anything about the Power label? Thanks, ---Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 18:55:56 +0000 From: Richard Williams Subject: Richie Gottehrer Bill Craig asked: > Speaking of all the Strangeloves lore, does anyone know what > Richard Gottehrer is up to these days? I bumped into Gottehrer in New York a couple of years ago when he was producing an album on a group called the Pristeens for my friend Howard Thompson, then A&R man at Alpert and Moss's now defunct Almo Records. He was cheerful and talkative and so I asked him about Bobby Comstock's "I'm a Man", which I prefer to any Strangeloves record by about a million miles. To my astonishment, he couldn't remember it. He'll be in the UK soon, and is due to appear on Charlie Gillett's Saturday night show on Radio London. Charlie is going to play the Comstock 45 to him and we'll see if that jogs his memory. Personally, I'd like to know who played on it -- specially the guitar and organ. Anyone out there got any clues? Richard Williams -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 19:24:59 -0000 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Re: Pollyanna Andrew Jones wrote: > Billy Joe Royal's DOWN IN THE BOONDOCKS album opens > with a song called "Pollyanna". I'm sure I've heard > this tune by some other act, a Four Seasons-style > vocal group (though not the Seasons themselves). >Anyone know who it could've been? It was THE CLASSICS (better known as the Classics IV) on Capitol 5710, released in July 1966. "Pollyanna" was a top ten song in their home state of Florida, which helped earn the group an appearance on "Where The Action Is" (performing that very song). Dennis Yost was still the drummer at the time. When the band got big, they hired Kim Venable from the K-Otics to take over on drums, and put Yost out front. Jeff Lemlich http://www.limestonerecords.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 14:40:09 -0500 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Re: Riddler; Billy Joe Royal Andrew asks: > First question: Back when he was playing The Riddler on the > "Batman" TV show, the great Frank Gorshin put out a single > (on A&M); Side A was a Mel Torme composition called "The Riddler", > while Side B was "Never Let Her Go", the same song that would later > become a minor hit for its composer, David Gates, and his group Bread. > Has anyone heard this single? Is it worth seeking out?" Not heard this version but there were other versions by Jody Miller (Capitol, 1965) and the UK's Maureen Evans (UK CBS, also 1965). [Info from That Will Never Happen Again #5/6] > Second question: Billy Joe Royal's DOWN IN THE BOONDOCKS album opens > with a song called "Pollyanna". I'm sure I've heard this tune by some > other act, a Four Seasons-style vocal group (though not the Seasons > themselves). Anyone know who it could've been?" That would be the Classics on Capitol from 1966 when the song (written by Joe South) got to #106. It is currently available on a fabulous CD from Taragon, "The Best Of Dennis Yost And The Classics IV". Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 14:46:32 -0500 (Est) From: Denis Gagnon Subject: Re: Da doo ron ron by Mick Jagger ???? Thanks for the answers to my question. I don't even know why I'm still amazed by this group... Denis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 14:58:41 -0500 From: Lee Subject: Re: Beach Boys Sequence from TAMI Show Speaking of the TAMI Show, I have it from a trusted source that Brother Records, the corporate entity of the Beach Boys, recently purchased (off of eBay!) an original 35mm print of the Beach Boys' sequence from the TAMI Show. The print was in excellent condition, and has been transferred to a preservation digital format. Seems the Beach Boys didn't have an original print in their vaults, just a second- or third-generation videotape. Next time that footage is licensed for TV use, expect a much improved picture. Also, there's a bootleg DVD-R of the TAMI show being sold by underground dealers that has the Beach Boys sequence restored, but it's not very good quality. The Beach Boys sequence is very obviously from a much poorer generation tape than the rest of the show. Lee -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 13:27:08 -0800 From: Alan Gordon Subject: Hang on Sloopy To Bob Beason: A little more info on the Sloop: There's a pretty cool series out on cd called: "Dick Barley presents Collectors Essentials: The Original Hit Singles On the Radio." Besides the long title, this series has a great deal to offer, even if it's designation is sometimes a little (or a lot) misleading. The series' Volume One has some great stuff on it. For one, it has an unusual stereo version of Hang On Sloopy made for that specific compilation from the original multi-tracks. To quote the liner notes: ".. in 1995 reissue producer Bob Irwin and engineer Vic Anesini uncovered the original multi-track tapes and mixed a true stereo version of "Hang On Sloopy" for "The Best of The McCoys" release on Legacy/Epic. ...The track appeared in brilliant stereo, but with the inclusion of an extra verse that had been edited out of the original and ran 3:51  nearly a minute longer than the original hit record." So it would seem that this version is the long version you've heard ... and now the above mentioned cd has a shortened version of said stereo version to mimic the original shorter mono release... whew. I hope that's clear. For the record: Bartley's above mentioned series has a few very cool things that really made an rockin' impression on me. On the same Volume One, there are "single" versions of The Animal's "Sky Pilot" with the original very interesting 45 mix with cool echo effects, which weren't on the stereo album... and Steppenwolf's "Magic Carpet Ride" which has a very different ambient sound than the album version that's been played on oldies radio for years. After hearing them, I was totally blown away and soulfully brought back to my psychedelic past. All these two gems needed was that nasty buzzing cycle-humm from my old Rambler Station Wagon's bad AM radio. peace, albabe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 20:16:18 -0000 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Feldman-Goldstein-Gottehrer Way to go, Martin. Feldman-Goldstein-Gottehrer are always worth the time of day. They were very versatile songwriters, record producers and recording artists as is evidenced by the variety of the songs they put out over the years. And it didn't stop in the 60s; their 70s and 80s work was just as extensive, if not more so with classics such as: Marshall Crenshaw Someday, Someway Go-Gos Our Lips Are Sealed Go-Gos We Got The Beat Blondie I Am Always Touched By Your Presence Dear War Low Rider It probably would need a project the size of "Jack Nitzsche's Magical World" to do this team justice. I did like your references to the Jive Five's "What Time Is It" (Beltone, 1962) and the Concords' "Should I Cry" (Epic, 1963), two great 60s doo-wop titles. The latter is available in CD quality from Collectables on "The Spotlite Series Epic Records, Vol 1". Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 16:47:41 -0500 From: Doc Subject: The Pixies Three On New Years Eve, the new CD by the Pixies Three went on sale! "Pop Pop Popeye" "Birthday Party" "Then He Kissed Me" "He's A Rebel" "He's Sure the Boy I Love" Lesley Gore medley "Beachwood 4-5789" "Release Me" "One, Two, Three" (written for them by Len Barry but turned down!) "Sally Go Round The Roses" "Thank You and Goodnight" "'80s Ladies" "God Bless the USA" "442 Glenwood Avenue." All new recordings. It's like it's the '60s again! Doc http://www.thepixiesthree.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 13:02:48 -0500 From: Bob Wallis Subject: Re: Brian Wilson Productions CD Guy Lawrence: > Beach Boys addicts might want to keep a close eye on the new > releases at http://www.acerecords.co.uk Seems there's a rather > exciting collection of his outside production work due any moment. > I've been praying for an album like this (Survivors, Glen > Campbell, Rachel & The Revolvers etc) for years! Guy, Actually, there was a bootleg CD released on the Japanese M&M label in '93 named "Still I Dream of You: Rare Works of Brian Wilson" - 32 songs - that has the tracks by the artists you mention, as well as "Things are Changing" by the Blossoms (which was discussed here recently). It comes with a massive 34 page booklet (don't know if Ace will match that) with lots of label photos. Ace is OK, but they did the Boston late '60s music scene a disfavor by allowing Alan Lorber, the Frankenstein that created the ill conceived MGM "Bosstown Sound" monster to release all his MGM effluent through them and tout it as THE late '60s Boston music scene on their Big Beat label. BW -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 19:55:39 +0100 From: Hans Ket Subject: Re: Lucy in London Hello Spectropoppers, First I would like to wish everybody a good 2003. > The source of this misinformation may be a January 8, 2000 Spectropop > post by Rein Smilde, in which he wrote, "Does anybody know the Ronettes > singing 'When Lucy was in London, she wore my miniskirt' (or something... Yes I remember that Rein brought up the subject of "Lucy in London". He succeeded in getting a copy of the song. Rein sadly passed away about a year ago. > Theoretically, one can view this video clip at the link below: > http://www.youns.com/lucy/videospecials.asp You're right David, theoretically, I wasn't able to view the clip. > The tune is an utterly over-the-top latter-day Spector production > incorporating a very unusual, slow interlude In the line "Lucy went into a carousel" Phil uses a theme which sounds similiar to Edelweiss" (from the movie "the Sound of Music" 1965) as the basis for the interlude. Hans Ket -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 19:29:35 +0000 From: Stuffed Animal Subject: Barbara Alston I just read that Barbara Alston of The Crystals passed away a few years back . . . I never heard this before! Is it true? Stuffed Animal -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 15:03:58 EST From: Sean in Philly Subject: Re: The Ronettes' Cousin Elaine That is interesting. I wonder how she sounded singing "Be My Baby" and "Baby I Love You". That's like Florence Ballard singing "Baby Love" and "Come See About Me" with Mary and Syreeta Wright (a Diana Ross look-a-like) backing her. Sean -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 16:52:49 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Hit Records and Power Records Dan Hughes: > Is there a web site for Hit Records? Nope!! :)) > Also, there was a similar budget knockoff label in Newark. > It was called Power, and I have one single on that label: > Ruby Ann, by Michael Reed b/w You Are My Sunshine by A. Starr. > (The hit versions were by Marty Robbins and Ray Charles). > The Power label is orange, and in tiny letters at the bottom > it says "S.P.C. Newark, N.J." All I know it that it was pressed at Synthetic Plastics, also in Newark. There were several pressing plants in Newark in the 50s and early 60s. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 16:49:32 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Three questions Mikey: > Right!!! The group was The Classics, who the next year renamed > themselves "The Classics 4" and had hit after hit, like "Traces", > "Stormy", "Spooky", etc. You will not find a better Four Seasons > rip off song anywhere!!!! I haven't heard that song, maybe your claim is true Mikey. But Ace UK put out a CD compilation back in '92 called "Laurie Vocal Groups: The Sixties Sound". Laurie, of course, being the label from which this stuff was culled. Some of the groups on that comp that IMHO at least gave the Seasons a run for their money: Bon-aires Four Graduates Tokens DeMilles Illusions Four Epics Ray-vons Concords Lenny Coleman & The Ebb Tides Jimmy Curtiss & The Regents Del Satins Karillions Teardrops JB/Fifth Season -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 16:56:40 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Frank Gorshin Martin Roberts wrote: > I haven't heard Frank Gorshin's "Never Let Her Go" but a lady > close to my heart has a video of him singing "The Riddler" on > The Dean Martin Show. I'm sure the visuals add a lot but I'd > suggest worth seeking out for the A Side. I believe I have the audio on The Riddler side, and if so will provide to musica shortly. It's rather over the top, with Gorshin asking (and answering) cornier riddles than on the show, then laughing hysterically at his own gags. As per his role model Richard Widmark, Gorshin's laughter, even at his gooniest, is more sinister than anything else. A friend has a great pic sleeve for it, but this is the first I've heard of a Dean Martini Show rendition. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 22:16:06 -0000 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Re: Johnny Young Jeff Lemlich: > I know of at least two other early Gibb Brothers songs recorded > by Young: "After Dark" and "I Am The World". He also did a > good version of the Easybeats' "Good Evening Girl". Yes Jeff, "I Am The World" was the "B" side of "Craise Finton Kirk", the "B" side to "Every Christian" was "Epitaph To Mr Simon Sir" - was this a Gibb tune? Talking Australian, how come we never give Normie Rowe a mention, I remember him coming to the UK with a big fanfare but he didn't seem to take off, was it 1965/66,I've found one single on Polydor, "Goin' Home"/"I Dont Care". Could that be Rolling Stones "a" side Los Bravos "b" side, naah. Norman: [Re: Johnny Worth ] > He is also known as Yani Paraskos Paraskeva Skordalides. Wow, that's one hell of a score in scrabble!!!! Ken On The West Coast -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 22:37:43 -0000 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Classics IV / Tommy Roe / Savage Lost There is a Classics IV discography in Jeff Lemlich's book, "Savage Lost Florida Garage Bands: The 60s And Beyond". The group is from Jacksonville so they rate an entry on page 156. Jeff's book has to be one of the best-researched rock `n' roll titles ever. As you flick through the pages, you wonder if Jeff made up some of the stuff, it's so obscure! It's not limited to garage bands either. If they came from Florida they're in here and there are some extensive sections covering soul music. The book is great value and available from Jeff's website at: http://www.limestonerecords.com/author.htm I do have a question. Tommy Roe & The Roemans appear in the Tampa/St Petersburg section on page 179 and one of the titles listed is "Diane From Manchester Square" (ABC, 1965). Buzz Cason and a current fave of mine, Paul Hampton, wrote this. Was Diane a secretary at EMI's headquarters in London and the inspiration for this song? Mike Edwards (PS - Bertie Higgins of "Key Largo" was in the Roemans? Yeah, it's right here in Jeff's book. It's that sort of tome.) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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