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Spectropop - Digest Number 725

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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)

There are 17 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Wallpaper Of Sound
           From: Team Spectropop 
      2. Re: Hang On Sloopy
           From: bob anthony 
      3. Re: Ronettes on tour with the Beatles
           From: James Botticelli 
      4. Re: Rhino CDs
           From: Mike Edwards 
      5. Ronettes and M the K
           From: Bill Craig 
      6. Dawn, Dusk, Toni, Ellie, Leslie, Peggy? Barb?
           From: John Clemente 
      7. Harmonica Max
           From: Ken Silverwood 
      8. Re: Hang On (A Bit Longer) Sloopy
           From: Deena Canale 
      9. Re: Hang On (A Bit Longer) Sloopy
           From: Barry Green 
     10. Re: Ticket To Ride
           From: Andrew Jones 
     11. Re: Estelle and Nedra of the Ronettes
           From: Tony 
     12. Re: Hang On (A Bit Longer) Sloopy
           From: Paul Urbahns 
     13. The House Of Blue Lights
           From: Eric Charge 
     14. Re: Ain't That Funny
           From: Richard Havers 
     15. Re: Re: Ain't That Funny
           From: "Peter Lerner" 
     16. Ellen Carol
           From: Peter Lerner 
     17. Strangeloves
           From: Dan Hughes 


Message: 1
   Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 08:51:02 -0000
   From: Team Spectropop 
Subject: Wallpaper Of Sound

Dear Members,

Sanctuary Records' recently released WALLPAPER OF SOUND CD
should be of interest to Spectropop types. Here are a few
paragraphs from the booklet:

Here's a new twist, the PHIL SPECTOR story, not told by way
of Ronettes, Crystals and Righteous Brothers tracks, but
via a collection of British versions of his originals and
husband and wife teams with whom he collaborated on many of
his Wall Of Sound classics.

Although it is as a producer that Spector is primarily
renowned, it should be noted that he also co-wrote almost
all of his best-known productions. In the very early 1960s
he worked as a freelance producer and aspirant tunesmith,
joining forces with a variety of lyricists before founding
his own label in 1961 and delivering the Crystals, Bob B.
Soxx & the Blue Jeans, Darlene Love, the Ronettes and the
Righteous Brothers unto the world. To help him create songs
for his stable of singers, he turned to some of the hottest
writers in the land. And he knew precisely where to find
them  the Brill Building in New York.

Situated on Broadway at the epicentre of the record
industry, the Brill was by name a building but by nature an
entire district. The district, from which great composers
like Irving Berlin, Jerome Kern, the Gershwins, Cole Porter
and Richard Rodgers had created the songs of a previous era,
was, by the 1960s, home to a new generation of songwriters.
Barry, Greenwich, Mann, Weil, Goffin and King were among the
leaders of that new breed.......

A review of the CD by David A. Young, Spectropop's resident
curator of all things Spectoresque, is available here:


The Spectropop Team

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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 17:43:38 -0800 (PST) From: bob anthony Subject: Re: Hang On Sloopy Bob Beason wrote: > Today my local classic rock station played a version of the > McCoys' "Hang On Sloopy" with an additional verse that I'd > never heard before. It began, "Sloopy put your red dress on..." The version of Hang on Sloopy that you speak of appears on Hang On Sloopy best of The Mc Coys on the Epic/Legacy label which was released in 1995 and is still in print -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:11:23 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Ronettes on tour with the Beatles Mike Edwards wrote: > The Beatles 1966 US tour was written up by Barry Tashian > (of Barry And The Remains) in a book entitled, "Ticket To > Ride - The Extraordinary Diary Of The Beatles Last Tour". ADDENDUM: Barry & The Remains are now reunited for touring purposes and were seen a couple of years back on their Maiden Voyage right here in Boston. They sound EXACTLY the same as their legendary Epic LP of 1966. Opening were The Lost (one of Willie Boom Boom Alexander's 60's bands) and The Rising Storm, the preppies from Phillips Academy in Andover who essentially covered Lenny Kaye's version of "Nuggets". JB -- -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 22:21:52 -0500 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Re: Rhino CDs Bryan writes: > I'd like to point out, in case you don't know this, that Rhino > is now wholly owned by Warner Music Group, and acts as the > reissue division for Warner Bros., Elektra, Atlantic and some > of the subsidiary labels like Sire. No, I didn't know that and thanks for pointing it out. However, that still gives Rhino a lot of titles to work with. There are loads of unissued gems in the Atlantic, Warner and Reprise catalogs covering the golden years of the early 60s. Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 03:47:14 -0000 From: Bill Craig Subject: Ronettes and M the K Is there any story behind New York DJ Murray(The K)Kaufmann back in the day always referring to The Ronettes as "Murray The K's Dancing Girls"? Bill Craig -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 02:17:14 -0500 From: John Clemente Subject: Dawn, Dusk, Toni, Ellie, Leslie, Peggy? Barb? Hello All, First of all, I'd like to thank Allan Rinde and Toni Wine for their marvelous contributions to the group. Secondly, I'd like to say that "Only To Other People" by The Cookies is one of my favorite GG songs, with Margaret Ross on lead. All this talk of backing vocals for Dawn singles reminds me of The Angels section in "Girl Groups". Peggy Santiglia Davison had told me that she and Barbara Allbut sang backups for "Knock Three Times". This is when Peggy and Barbara were offered the positions of Tony's backing vocalists for the live act, but they declined (Girl Groups, p. 20, second and third paragraphs). My questions are for Toni. Does she remember Peggy and the Dusk project ("Angel Baby", "I Hear Those Church Bells Ringing", "Treat Me Like A Good Piece Of Candy", all written by Irwin Levine and L. Russell Brown)? Also, any info on Ardith Polley, who wrote the B-sides ("I Cannot See To See You", "Suburbia USA")? Any info is appreciated. Regards, John Clemente -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 10:27:53 -0000 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Harmonica Max Many thanks to Richard for pointing out it was Max Geldray on harmonica, obviously my hearing is not what it used to be. (nice to know someone reads my comments). While I'm on, who composed "Ain't That Funny" for Jimmy Justice. It sounds 'American', if it is'nt it's a damn good cop. Seasons Greetings from Ken On The West Coast -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 09:19:30 -0400 From: Deena Canale Subject: Re: Hang On (A Bit Longer) Sloopy Robert Beason: > Today my local classic rock station played a version of the > McCoys' "Hang On Sloopy" with an additional verse that I'd > never heard before. It began, "Sloopy put your red dress on..." Are you sure it was the McCoys? I've never heard a McCoys version with the extra verse about the red dress, but I have heard the Strangeloves' version which includes it ("Sloopy wears a red dress that's old as the hills/but when Sloopy wears that red dress, y'know it gives me the chills..."). Were the vocals perhaps a little huskier, deeper, more mature and lascivious than the teen caterwauling on the shortened McCoys track? Actually, the backing tracks of both versions are identical. Here's the scoop from the Al Quaglieri-penned liner notes of "I Want Candy: The Best of the Strangeloves" (Epic Legacy): "Along with the new FGG [Bob Feldman, Jerry Goldstein and Richard Gottehrer, the three Brill Building denizens who masqueraded as zebra-print-vest-wearing Australian wildmen the Strangeloves] tunes and several covers, [Bert] Berns suggested a reworking of a tune he and Wes Farrell had written for the Vibrations, 'My Girl Sloopy.' The rhythm track for 'Sloopy' came off well, so much so that it was slated to follow-up 'I Want Candy.' There was just one catch. The Dave Clark Five, with whom the Strangeloves had spent the last leg of their tour, liked the Strangeloves' live workout on 'Sloopy' and planned to record it themselves upon their return to England. With 'Candy' still on the charts, it was too early for a pre-emptive strike by the Strangeloves. Berns suggested the boys find someone to record 'Sloopy,' and pronto. At a last-minute, post-tour gig in Dayton, Ohio, the Strangeloves found them. They were show openers Rick and the Raiders, soon to become the McCoys. With the exceedingly adolescent McCoys in tow, FGG rushed home to New York, there to add the teen group's vocals and Rick Zehringer's guitar to their 'Sloopy' track. 'Hang on Sloopy' was rush released, and instantly zoomed to number one of the charts. Over the next several years, the McCoys and Rick Derringer (ex-Zehringer) would become the Strangeloves' opening act, clicking with eight chart hits and two LPs, all produced by FGG." Bear in mind, however, that the Alan Clayson-penned liner notes of "Hang on Sloopy: The McCoys" (See for Miles) tell a slightly different story. According the these notes, the McCoys named themselves after a Ventures tune in 1962. In 1965: "Signing the group to his recently-founded Bang production company--which also had the young Neil Diamond on its books--Berns hurried them into a studio to cut what he considered a suitable vehicle to set the ball rolling--a definitive version of 'Hang on Sloopy,' using the Vibrations' single as a helpful demo. There wasn't much time to spare as a Canadian act--Little Caesar and his Consuls--had already got wind of 'Hang on Sloopy' and, damn them, had just crept into the Billboard Hot Hundred with it. Into the bargain, Screaming Lord Sutch, while touring North America, had dashed off a version in New York and, even as Berns mixed the McCoys recording, was trying to convince London record companies to steal a march on Little Caesar in Britannia. For all these setbakcs, the McCoys had a walkover, totally eclipsing Little Caesar--while Sutch's 'Hang on Sloopy' mouldered in the family vault. Slicing to the top in the States as a wire through cheese, the McCoys also cracked the British Top Five..." Interesting how Clayson makes no mention whatsoever of the Strangeloves--though, verily, the backing tracks of both the Strangeloves' and the McCoys' versions are identical, right down to the burlesque house drum pounding, the honking saxes and the blistering Zehringer/Derringer solo. But I know of no longer "red dress verse" version credited to the McCoys--does anyone else? Rock & Roll, Hootchie Coo, Signed D.C. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 06:38:08 EST From: Barry Green Subject: Re: Hang On (A Bit Longer) Sloopy Robert Beason: > Today my local classic rock station played a version of the > McCoys' "Hang On Sloopy" with an additional verse that I'd > never heard before. It began, "Sloopy put your red dress on..." > Why haven't I ever heard this expanded version before and > where did it come from? Was the long version ever issued on > vinyl? And which CD(s) is the long version on? I know I can > count on the experts of Spectropop nation to satisfy my curiosity! Hi Bob, I have never come across the extended version of Hang on Sloopy (approx 3.51 the single was only 3.04) with the extra verse on vinyl either on the USA Bang label or Immediate which released it here in the UK. The only CD that I have which contains this is: The Best of the McCoys - Hang on Sloopy ZK 47074 issued in 1995 via Sony on the LEGACY/epic associated label The CD is unique as it also has other tracks which are longer than the original single versions - (total of 22 tracks on the CD) Eg: Up and Down 3.00 against 2.36 on the single Runaway 2.58 against 2.35 on the single I got to go back 3.02 against 2.42 on the single The booklet states - Most of the songs on this collection appear for the first time in stereo. These tracks have been mixed from the original multi-track tapes to possess the same mighty wallop and intensity of the original mono singles. Hope the above helps Barry -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 10:34:45 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Jones Subject: Re: Ticket To Ride I second the recommendation of Barry Tashian's "Ticket to Ride." If you're a Beatlemaniac, it's one of the best Beatle books you'll ever read. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 18:32:50 -0000 From: Tony Subject: Re: Estelle and Nedra of the Ronettes Hello, Nedra sang LEAD with Ronnie on "Keep On Dancing". Also, Nedra and Estelle are audible on the background of "Sleigh Ride", and the "live" "What I Say". Tony -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 13:12:51 EST From: Paul Urbahns Subject: Re: Hang On (A Bit Longer) Sloopy Robert wrote: > Today my local classic rock station played a version of the > McCoys' "Hang On Sloopy" with an additional verse that I'd > never heard before. It began, "Sloopy put your red dress on..." That is the original version, recorded before it was issued as a single. The hit version we all know and love has that verse removed. Somebody found a tape of it and issued it on CD. Now radio stations are playing it like it was the hit instead of the real one because they don't know any better. Another gripe I have is with oldies stations that play Sally Go Round The Roses without the organ because it showed up on an Oldies CD by Steve Hoffman as a collectors treat. Then a music syndication company put it on the CD library they sell to radio stations. The programmers are too young to know the difference and now most oldies stations play that version instead of the original hit version with the organ. It has become the :defacto" standard. On that song, the organ makes the record. Younger people hear some of these odd versions or non-hit versions on the radio, they lack the punch of the hit version and wonder why they were ever hits. The long version Sloopy is probably on the McCoys comp by Legacy. But I bet they didn't put both versions on there. Paul Urbahns A guy who likes to hear the hit versions, not a cutting room floor reject on radio -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 18:59:58 -0000 From: Eric Charge Subject: The House Of Blue Lights Don Covay's "The House Of Blue Lights" has been issued on CD by Sepie Tone. I have cloth ears. Can any of you clever people identify the female vocalist sharing lead vocal duties on the track "Homemade Love", written by Don himself? The album dates back to (perhaps) 1967 - the CD liner notes are not terribly helpful. And Happy New Year everyone! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 18:33:18 +0000 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: Ain't That Funny Ken Silverwood wrote: > While I'm on, who composed "Ain't That Funny" for Jimmy Justice. > It sounds 'American'. If it isn't, it's a damn good cop. It was Les Vandyke. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 22:42:41 -0000 From: "Peter Lerner" Subject: Re: Re: Ain't That Funny Ken Silverwood wrote: > While I'm on, who composed "Ain't That Funny" for Jimmy Justice. > It sounds 'American'. If it isn't, it's a damn good cop. Richard Havers: > It was Les Vandyke. Wasn't Les Vandyke better known as Johnny Worth - wrote a few early hits for Adam Faith? Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 22:44:57 -0000 From: Peter Lerner Subject: Ellen Carol One of my favourite early Jackie DeShannon 45s is "I Won't Turn You Down" on Liberty 55358. This nice and tuneful teen ballad was written by Ellen Carol. Does anyone have anything to say about Ellen? Only clue is the publisher - Laki Inc (BMI). Thanks in advance! Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 17:51:50 -0600 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Strangeloves I dimly remember a pre-"I Want Candy" song by the Strangeloves, called "Love Love". A slower song. Am I dreaming? ---Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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