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Spectropop - Digest Number 722

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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)

There are 10 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: The Harmonica and The Beatles
           From: Steve Harvey 
      2. History Channel
           From: Neb Rodgers 
      3. Re: Verdelle Smith
           From: Ian Slater 
      4. Re: I Remember You / Dawn
           From: Norman 
      5. Re: Everly's two-fers
           From: Steve Harvey 
      6. Re: Satisfaction
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
      7. Re: Satisfaction
           From: Phil Chapman 
      8. Re: Matt Monro
           From: Tim Viney 
      9. Re: Satisfaction
           From: Richard Havers 
     10. Re: Satisfaction etc
           From: Jeff Lemlich 


Message: 1
   Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 17:27:07 -0800 (PST)
   From: Steve Harvey 
Subject: Re: The Harmonica and The Beatles

It's come back to me now, it was From Me To You that
was to start with a guitar intro, but was changed to
the harmonica at George Martin's request.

Please Please Me was a slow Roy Orbisonlike tune that
Martin rearranged into the hit we know now.

I always heard that Satisfaction started as a riff
that Keef heard one night and captured on his brand
new cassette recorder. Never heard anything about Roy
and that tune.

And the Beatles use to do "I Remember You" in their
set. You can hear it on the Hamburg tapes with Lennon
shouting the lyrics in the background while Paul is
trying to sing.

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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 18:25:11 -0800 (PST) From: Neb Rodgers Subject: History Channel Interesting looking show on The History Channel tomorrow night for audio-geek types, like myself! Save Our Sounds Thursday , December 26 08:00 PM - 09:00 PM, EST and PST The Emmy Award-winning series chronicles the Smithsonian Institution's Center for Folklife and Cultural Heritage and the Library of Congress's American Folklife Center's fight to preserve audio recordings of our cultural history. Native-American chants, oral histories from slaves, music from legendary artists of the past, speeches of presidents and other historical figures--all are rapidly decaying. We hear from audio archivists and engineers, and musicians Mickey Hart, B.B. King, and David Crosby: Happy Holidays, Neb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 10:01:41 -0000 From: Ian Slater Subject: Re: Verdelle Smith I've uploaded the album cover pic of Verdelle Smith to no. 32 in the photos section of members' files area. Thanks to Martin for help too. I've also given Erik a listen to "Tar & Cement" so please don't all do it or his lines will melt! Ian Slater -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 21:03:13 +1030 From: Norman Subject: Re: I Remember You / Dawn I take it as granted that John and Paul were in awe of Frank Ifield's hit version and did fancy the mouth organ bit. Didn't they (The Beatles) later record the song? also - more importantly, thanks Allan Rinde for the info on DAWN: > the backgrounds for Candida and the entire first album were done by > Toni, Jay Seigel of the Tokens, and Robin Greon. I guessed that Pam and Joyce Vincent and Telma Hopkins would have become involved after the initial project. I still have my original Candida LP by Dawn. Bell SBLL 6052 (released through EMI Australia). Not much information is given on the sleeve apart from the mention, naturally, of the Tokens and Dave Appell. Norman Bergen, Philip Frederick Margo XIV also get arranging credits along with Dave Appell. The eight line of the credits make me smile: "Special Thanks to Tony Orlando". (Yes, I know the story). Interesting to note that Ronnie Amodea gets a song recorded on side 1. I believe he played bass guitar on the album. Norman -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 07:57:56 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Everly's two-fers tymespan wrote: > An online shop connected with an Everly Brothers website has the next > three releases in the Everly's two-fers available as pre-orders. No > mention of when they'll be available but they have all the track > listings: This is great news since I thought they'd given up. Wonder why 2 Yanks and Image weren't put out first? They would have really kicked off the series in a grand style. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 17:23:32 -0000 From: Billy G. Spradlin Subject: Re: Satisfaction > I always heard that Satisfaction started as a riff that Keef heard > one night and captured on his brand new cassette recorder. Never > heard anything about Roy and that tune. Another story goes that the Stones wanted to use a horn section on "Satisfaction" but Andrew Loog Oldham didnt want to pay session musicans or they were running behind on session time. So Keith used fuzztone instead. Vox proably sold more fuzztone stomp boxes from that 45 than any ad. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 17:49:13 -0000 From: Phil Chapman Subject: Re: Satisfaction Steve Harvey: > I always heard that Satisfaction started as a riff that Keef > heard one night and captured on his brand new cassette recorder. > Never heard anything about Roy and that tune. This subject cropped up briefly a year or so ago in digest #260: Here's my two-penn'orth: > was ALO who played The Supremes' "My World Is Empty > Without You" to Mick & Keith in order to 'influence' the > writing of their next hit "Paint It Black"............. I got > this straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak, when I was > making, assistant engineer, on a Stones session. It was > also revealed that the guitar riff on "Satisfaction" was > 'influenced' by the opening brass figure of "Nowhere To Run" > . However, all parties at > the time were under the influence of much more than just girl > group classics :-) And yes, I vaguely remember Roy Orbison's "Pretty Woman" being mentioned as well. Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 17:58:01 -0000 From: Tim Viney Subject: Re: Matt Monro I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that Frank Sinatra rated Matt Monro very highly. I must admit that I am more and more appreciative, these days, of Matt Monro's body of work. Tim -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 19:23:25 +0000 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: Satisfaction The Satisfaction saga.......this is what I wrote in Bill Wyman's recent book.....from his diaries and contemporary accounts. We wrote it in Tampa, Florida, by a swimming pool. It was Keith's initial idea. (Mick - Rolling Stone Magazine October 1968) Mick's memory failed him, it was written in Clearwater Florida. Keith woke up in the middle of the night with the riff in his head and put it down on tape. In the morning Mick said the words for the riff were I Can't Get No Satisfaction. (Bill) On Monday 10th May they went to Chess Studios at 1 p.m. and worked until 10 p.m. amongst the tracks they cut was 'Satisfaction', I didn't think much of 'Satisfaction' when we first recorded it. We had a harmonica on then, and it was considered to be a good B-Side or maybe an LP track. (Keith - NME 3rd September 1965) I heard a Demo of the original track before the fuzz-tone was put on, and it was Brian on harmonica. I made a bet with Mick, Keith and Brian, that it was going to be the biggest record the Stones had ever had, even before the fuzz-tone was put on. (DJ Scott Ross) Two days later (may 12th) they were at RCA Studio in Hollywood with Dave Hassinger re-working 'Satisfaction'. Charlie put down a different tempo, and with the addition of a fuzz-box on my guitar, which takes off all the treble, we achieved a very interesting sound. (Keith - NME 3rd September 1965) After we had listened to the Master we discussed whether it should be the next Single. Andrew and Dave Hassinger were very positive about it, so we put it to the vote. Andrew, Dave, Stu, Brian, Charlie and I voted 'yes', while Mick and Keith voted 'no'. It became the next single by the majority vote. (Bill) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 22:11:50 -0000 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Re: Satisfaction etc An argument can also be made about the influence of "It's The Same Old Song" on the Stones' "Under My Thumb"... Jeff Lemlich -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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