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Spectropop - Digest Number 709

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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Quote the Beatles
           From: Eddy Smit 
      2. Re: Quote the Beatles
           From: Norman 
      3. Re: Pow Wow - Howdy Doody / Ronnie Burns
           From: Phil Milstein 
      4. Re: Spoonful covers
           From: Michael Robson 
      5. Re: Toni Wine / bubblegum music
           From: Artie Wayne 
      6. Re: Ecology songs
           From: Roger Smith 
      7. Re: Lyrics made up of song titles / Davie Allan
           From: Bryan 
      8. Re: Quote the Beatles
           From: Gaylord Fields 
      9. Re: The Impacts
           From: Mikey 
     10. Re: Quote the Beatles
           From: Luis Suarez 
     11. Re: Spoonful covers
           From: Mikey 
     12. Toni Wine's new website
           From: Allan Rinde 
     13. Re: Quote the ... everyone else
           From: Phil Milstein 
     14. The Reveres
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     15. Bro. Julius
           From: Phil Milstein 
     16. Re: Brother Julius
           From: Mick Patrick 
     17. Re: Bro. Julius
           From: Mikey 
     18. 1432 Franklin Pike Circle Hero
           From: Alan Gordon 
     19. Re: Spoonful covers
           From: Doug 
     20. Wenzels Music Town /Downey wrote Wipeout?
           From: Leonardo Flores 
     21. Re: Quote the ... everyone else
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
     22. Re: Hidden titles
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     23. Collectables Blowout
           From: Steve Harvey 
     24. Re: Quote the Beatles / Spoonful covers / Knickerbockers
           From: Bill Craig 
     25. Re: Wenzels Music Town
           From: Phil Milstein 


Message: 1
   Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:01:35 +0100
   From: Eddy Smit 
Subject: Re: Quote the Beatles

> And what was that other song when he said '....the walrus was Paul'? 

That was Glass Onion from the White Album, which also has I told you 
'bout Strawberry Fields, the place where nothing is real (a reference to 
the Yellow Submarine movie) and further on...Lady Madonna trying to make 
ends meet...I told you about the fool on the hill...Fixing a hole in the 
ocean. Allow me to correct myself, so you don't have to...of course, the 
"nothing is real" from Glass Onion was quoted for the Yellow Submarine 
movie and not the other way round.


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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 00:56:20 +1030 From: Norman Subject: Re: Quote the Beatles Quote the Beatles: Barclay James Harvest in 1975 with "Titles" would be a good contender. Single released from the Time Honoured Ghosts LP. Norman -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:31:54 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Pow Wow - Howdy Doody / Ronnie Burns Jeffrey Glenn wrote: > I noticed that the reversed "Pow Wow" by 1910 Fruitgum Co. had been > played to musica, so I've done the same with "Bring Back Howdy Doody" > by Flying Giraffe (Bell B-801, 1969). Both obviously the Howdy Doody > theme, but not using the same track as was postulated. The Flying > Giraffe track is pre bubblegum, while the 1910 Fruitgum Co. is > bubblegarage (and pretty loose, to say the least - I love it! :-) ). Although the music is the same as the Howdy Doody theme, the lyrics, a nostalgic profession of love for the show, seem to be wholly new. Now that we've established that these are two versions of the same song, let's see if we can get the writing credits to match up. The Fruitgum's "Pow-Wow" is credited to Kasenetz-Katz-Gutkowski. For the record it is Buddah BDA 91. Norman wrote: > Ronnie Burns had a Top 10 hit with the song in 1967. That wasn't the Ronnie Burns who was son of George Burns & Gracie Allen, was it? I had thought him to be the last child-of-showbiz-royalty of that generation who DIDN'T aspire to pop stardom of his own. Maybe there were none. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:10:38 -0000 From: Michael Robson Subject: Re: Spoonful covers Spoonful covers: let's bring this back to girls. How about "Darling Be Home Soon" by Samantha Jones (Penny Farthing B-Side/LP track, 1970) and Billie Davis (Decca B-Side, 1967), "I Didn't Want To Have To Do It" by Julie Driscoll (Parlophone A-Side, 1966) and Madeline Bell (Philips LP track, 1967) and "Daydream" by Sammi Brown (Fontana A-Side, 1968) and Anita Harris (CBS LP track, 1969)... Michael Clunkie -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 07:19:18 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Toni Wine / bubblegum music A big public congratulations to Toni Wine for her acheivement award.... You truly are the "Queen of Bubblegum Music"!!! When my partner Kelli Ross and I ran Joey Levine and Artie Resnicks' publishing company in the sixties who would've dreamed that the "Genre" would ever be legitimized. Fortunately, "Bubblegum Music"- loving kids grew up to be "Bubblegum Music"-loving critics !!! regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:43:33 -0500 From: Roger Smith Subject: Re: Ecology songs > Hi, I'm compiling a list of pop songs about ecology or pollution > from the 60s/70s. Anyone have suggestions? The Most Beautiful World in the World - Harry Nilsson (Son of Schmilsson, 1972). Pretty Soon There'll Be Nothing Left for Everybody - Harry Nilsson (Sandman, 1976). -- Roger -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 07:42:52 -0800 From: Bryan Subject: Re: Lyrics made up of song titles / Davie Allan Regarding "Titles" by Barclay James Harvest and "lyrics almost entirely made up of Beatles titles," my friend Rick's band Cloud Eleven did the very same thing with Left Banke titles on with his song "Look of Sky." The song appeared on his 'Cloud Eleven' CD on Del-Fi's short lived DF2K imprint. The song's title, in fact, was inspired by Michael Brown's real last name, Lookofsky, and the lyrics were cobbled together from titles and snatches of Left Banke songs. (Rick also covers the Lovin' Spoonful's "Didn't Wanna Have To Do It" on the album). Regarding a Davie Allan cover song, James Boticelli wrote: > They do an absolutely murderous version of Henry Mancini's > "Experiment In Terror" on the Del-Fi Mancini Tribute compilation > of 6 or 7 years' back. Is "murderous" good or bad? :-) Bryan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:33:00 -0500 (EST) From: Gaylord Fields Subject: Re: Quote the Beatles Patrick Rands wrote: > I was wondering if anyone would be interested in getting a list > together of songs that quote a part of a Beatles song. Another ambitious example of a song along the lines of Nilsson's "You Can't Do That" that strings together Beatles song titles to form a narrative is whimsical late-70s Dutch popsters Gruppo Sportivo's "One Way Love (From Me to You)" Amid the sundry Fabs titles, including "Yesterday", "I Should Have Known Better" and the one in the title's parenthetical, they cheekily throw in the Stones' "As Tears Go By" for good measure. And to top it off, the "oooo-la-la-la" vocals from "You Won't See Me" figure prominently. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:34:20 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: The Impacts Original Message from Steve Harvey: > I always thought that the Impacts did the original Wipe Out, Merrill > Fankhauser wrote it. There was a surf music compilation being done > by various bands. The Surfaris's manager had them recording on it, > heard the Impacts' tune and had his guys cover it. The rest is history. Nope!!! The Impacts' "Wipe Out" is a totally different surf instrumental. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 18:10:48 -0000 From: Luis Suarez Subject: Re: Quote the Beatles Mark Frumento wrote: > Probably my favorite is Billy Nicholls' "White Lightning" (Phil > Chapman may be familiar with this record?) which also quotes "Lucy > in the Sky With Diamonds." That's a wonderful song Mark. A few others: The previously mentioned We All Together have a song called "Hey Revolution" which briefly plays a bit of the Beatles "Revolution". I have an album by the Japanese band Carol from the early 70's. It's called "Louisi-anna". The second side is all covers of the sort the Beatles played in Hamburg and the Cavern club (learned phonetically, BTW) Side 1 is all original tunes - all in Japanese except there are a few lines in each song that were taken from Beatles lyrics! Girl at the Window by the Idle Race is a beautiful song and when this thread came up I immediately thought of this track. The line the way I heard it: John and Paul and Ringo and George Were playing "Love Me Do" But various lyric sites on the net say this is how it goes: John and Paul and Ringo and George Were playing lovely tunes Either way it's a Beatles reference. Luis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:46:56 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Spoonful covers Don't forget Gary Lewis: Daydream You Didn't Have To Be So Nice -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:49:33 -0000 From: Allan Rinde Subject: Toni Wine's new website Sorry I've fallen behind in answering messages, but I've been busy getting a website for Toni going. It's not finished (are they ever?) but it's ready for public viewing. Come visit at: I'm off to The Big Apple for a few days, and Toni's off on her own for a week, so we'll get back to filling in the blanks right after Xmas. Y'all have a happy holiday. Allan Rinde -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:51:47 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Quote the ... everyone else Diverting sidelong from the Beatles' song quotes thread, I would like to kick off the listing of songs whose lyrics cite unrelated other song titles. Two that come immediately to mind: Arthur Conley: Sweet Soul Music Dee Dee Sharpe: Mashed Potato Time I'm sure there are many more. I always enjoy hearing this sort of lyric, as they seem to be sincere professions of respect for the songs they name-check. Phil M. P.S. Gaylord, how long have you been on Spectropop? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:24:57 -0500 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: The Reveres Does anyone know who the Reveres were? They did a single for Jubilee -- one side written by Jeff Barry & Artie Resnick ("The Show Must Go On"), with the other side a peppy, upbeat version of "Beyond The Sea" (given kind of a "Jan & Dean meets the Jamies" kind of treatment). What's the story with these guys? Jeff Lemlich -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:44:49 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Bro. Julius Does anyone know who the Spector B-side "Brother Julius", flip of "Then He Kissed Me," was named for? Wechter, perhaps? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:15:06 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Brother Julius Phil Milstein: > Does anyone know who the Spector B-side "Brother Julius", flip > of "Then He Kissed Me," was named for? Wechter, perhaps? There's a photo of Brother Julius in the book contained in the ABKCO "Back To Mono" box set. He was the "shoeshine boy" at Gold Star Studios car park. Actually, at the time of the Crystals' "Then He Kissed Me", he was a middle aged man. MICK PATZSCHE -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 18:04:03 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Bro. Julius Phil Milstein: > Does anyone know who the Spector B-side "Brother Julius", > flip of "Then He Kissed Me," was named for? Wechter, perhaps? I know the answer to this one!!! "Brother Julius" was the elderly gentleman who was the janitor at Gold Star. All the musicians, and particularly Hal Blaine, loved him and gave him money. Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:02:03 -0800 From: Alan Gordon Subject: 1432 Franklin Pike Circle Hero Country Paul sez: >> "1432 Franklin Pike Circle Hero", on Elf Records, was a >> sorta wimpy ode to the suburban dad who's a hero to his kids. >> There was some phenomenal Nashville pop - just not this song >> to my ears! Dan: > You call it wimpy--I call it warm. >I like to think of myself as that guy. Dan, I loved this tune when I was knee high to a Telecaster. Does anyone know where it might be found? senti-mentally yours, albabe Sorry I'm so far behind. I spent a little over a week in Arizona (Kick off your rainbow shades) and I'm still barely making a dent in my emails. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 00:25:59 -0000 From: Doug Subject: Re: Spoonful covers Did anybody mention the Rovin' Kind - Didn't Want To Have To Do It? Doug -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 00:35:56 -0000 From: Leonardo Flores Subject: Wenzels Music Town /Downey wrote Wipeout? Monophonius wrote: > I checked the BMI database for "Wipeout" and "Pipeline" and > there is no credit given Morton Downey Jr. as writer.> Maybe some one got confused concerning the relationship between The Surfaris, Dot records and Downey Records, owned by the Wenzels in Downey, California. Details of these connections are in the ACE Let's Go Tripping DOT Comp CD that came out a few years ago. The Wenzels closed down their shop after 30+ years of business about two years ago. Back in the day The shop doubled as a Recording studio/Record label that recorded many fine local acts such as the Rumblers and the Chantays. My father used to ride his bike down from Whittier to Wenzels Music Town back in the 50s/60s and to this day was his favorite record shop ever. I'll never forget the first time I ever went to the shop. They always had a good vibe (which is saying a lot compared to the other crummy record shops in LA/Orange County). About a month before the shop closed I asked fot their autograph, they said in all the years Jack, and His father Bill, owned the shop I was the first to ever ask for his and his wife's autograph. Wenzels Music Town was a peice of local history as well as an example of the 50s/60s my father grew up in. I hope they are having a wonderful retirement. On the flipside the Surfaris recorded Wipe-Out here in Cucamonga the city I live in at the moment. Cheers, Leonardo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 02:08:47 -0000 From: Billy G. Spradlin Subject: Re: Quote the ... everyone else One of my favorites is Carol Shaw's "Jimmy Boy" (Atco) where she mentions "Walk Like A Man" in the chorus. Billy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:39:07 -0500 From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: Hidden titles There are so many songs that throw out current titles; for starters, Sam Cooke's "Having A Party" ("Play that one called 'I Know'") and one of my own recent purchases from Big Beverly Records, The 3 Friends' "Dedicated To The Songs I Love" (1961) on I think Imperial ("Little Miss Stuck-up and Sleepy-eyed John....invested in 'U.S. Bonds'" or something like that!) Early 60s was notorious for this kind of thing as well as tons and tons of "break-ins" in which actual snippets of hits were heard, usually for comic effect. Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 18:44:38 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Collectables Blowout Hey -- for anyone with a little extra time, and extra cash, this is thoroughly worthwhile. Tons of great re-issued roots music from various genres...all for a steel of a deal! Collectables is lettingthis stuff go for dirt cheap, 02 .98 to about 7 bucks. Most of the discs only have half the tracks we're used to on re-releases ... but for a quarter the cost of the average discs they're steel more than worth the cost! Plus you can listen to a sample of every song from every one of the CD's!! Check it out: -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 03:17:50 -0000 From: Bill Craig Subject: Re: Quote the Beatles / Spoonful covers / Knickerbockers There was a song by the Brit band City Boy that quoted "She Loves You",the title was something like "Everybody Sang Yeah, Yeah, Yeah". Has anyone mentioned the Joe Cocker version of "Darling Be Home Soon"? It's interesting that The Knickerbockers'(named after Knickerbocker Rd. in Bergenfield, New Jersey) drummer Jimmy Walker replaced Bill Medley in The Righteous Brothers who were an obvious influence on the Spector-like hits by some other non-brothers who called themselves Walker. I believe that in their live act The Knicks did quite a few vocal impressions of other hit groups. Not only Buddy Randall's Beatle sounding vocals but also The Four Seasons and others. Happy Holidays to all, Bill Craig -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:46:47 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Wenzels Music Town Leonardo Flores wrote: > On the flipside the Surfaris recorded Wipe-Out here in Cucamonga the > city I live in at the moment. At Studio Z? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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