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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Bells 'n Brummels
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
      2. Re: Kama Sutra: The Vacels & The Boys
           From: Leonardo Flores 
      3. Gene Pitney Tribute CD
           From: Warren Cosford 
      4. Re: Ecology songs
           From: Phil Milstein 
      5. Re: Ecology songs
           From: Scott 
      6. Re: Helen Miller / Bernadette Castro
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
      7. Re: Moon
           From: Steve Harvey 
      8. Re: More Toni tunes + Dottie West
           From: Scott 
      9. Jackie DeShannon
           From: Bill George 
     10. Re: Ecology songs
           From: Delia Barnard 
     11. Re: Jackie DeShannon
           From: Phil Chapman 
     12. Re: Helen Miller / Howie Greenfield tunes
           From: James F.  Cassidy 
     13. Tom Fulton R.I.P.
           From: Tom Taber 
     14. Re: Moon / David Marks
           From: Eddy Smit 
     15. Re: Peggy Clinger/Johnny Cymbal
           From: Patrick Rands 
     16. Re: Ecology songs
           From: Nick Archer 
     17. Re: Ecology songs
           From: Stephane Rebeschini 
     18. Re: Ecology songs
           From: Ian Slater 
     19. Re: Play The Other Side update
           From: Mary S. 
     20. Re: Gene Pitney Tribute CD
           From: Ron Weekes 
     21. British wannabees
           From: Justin McDevitt 
     22. Re: The Boys
           From: Martin Roberts 
     23. Re: A Spoonful of covers.
           From: Karl Baker 
     24. Re: Gene Pitney Tribute CD
           From: Jeffrey Glenn 
     25. Re: A Spoonful of covers.
           From: r13dodo 


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Message: 1
   Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 04:02:41 -0000
   From: Jeff Lemlich 
Subject: Re: Bells 'n Brummels

Bob Rashkow wrote:
> Bell Records' late 6Ts output before Columbia Pictures bought them 
> is for me a treasure trove just waiting to be explored. Same for 
> their sister labels Mala and Amy. In particular of the fantastic 
> groups I've already been privileged to hear or own on 45 I 
> particularly like The Lemonade Charade, the Butterscotch Caboose 
> and the Balloon Corps.>

The Lemonade Charade was a Nashville band that also recorded for 
Epic.  Their second manager was Tony Moon, who was working with the 
Orlando, Florida band We The People -- which explains how the "Charades" 
came to record totally obscure compositions by We The People leaders 
Wayne Proctor and Tommy Talton.

Lots of Florida bands were given a chance to record for the Amy/Bell/
Mala group of labels -- among them, the Birdwatchers from Miami, 
Tommy Turner & The 13th Hour Glass from Port St. Joe/Pensacola, and 
the Zig Zag Paper Company from Pensacola.  

One fairly obscure Amy/Bell group, The Bleus, has now reformed and is 
getting some attention back in their hometown of Gadsden, Alabama.  
Their web site includes some great old photographs and memorabilia:

http://www.thebleus.com/

That's me, I'm the brother!
Jeff Lemlich
http://www.limestonerecords.com




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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 01:49:05 -0000 From: Leonardo Flores Subject: Re: Kama Sutra: The Vacels & The Boys > I'm hoping that someone in this discussion group can help me with > acquiring information about these two groups (The Vacels & The Boys) > which recorded for Kama Sutra in '65> Karl, I guess you beat me to it, I was going to post the same message today! I've been told that the Vacels were the same group as Ricky & The Vacels on Express and Fargo. I've even been told the You're My Baby by the Vacels was originally on another label before Kama Sutra but I don't have any proof to confirm or deny that. I'm currently trying to locate any Yellow Label Kama Sutra artists, producers, songwriters etc. I already located Robert Dobyne and currently interviewing the surviving members of the Goodtimes. Not only am looking for the same info on the two groups but I would like to Locate Eric & The Smoke Ponies, Carmen Taylor, Billy Harner, Bobby High, Stan Vincent and of course Anders and Poncia. Thanks for bringing up the Boys Picture Sleeve as now it's another I have to add to the list! Where did you read that they had a pic Sleeve on Kama Sutra? But in an interview with Dave Kennedy, lead singer of the Goodtimes, he states that the original copy of their first Kama Sutra Artist "The Hard Life" was originally titled "She Makes It Hard On ME". It was pressed up with that title and then withdrawn because it was a suggestive title. Now try to find that one!Ug record collecting ..... it just never ends! Now that I know the Goodtimes LP was never released does anybody have any information if The Outrage LP on kama Sutra 8074 was ever put out? Hopefully my article and interviews will be written by the end of the month. I would like to thank Jamie Jones, brother of the recently passed Tim Jones, guitarist of the Goodtimes, for contacting me after I posted about the Goodtimes LP on Spectropop about 1 year ago. All My Thanks, Leonardo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:04:38 -0500 From: Warren Cosford Subject: Gene Pitney Tribute CD Has anyone heard of a Gene Pitney Tribute CD featuring a cut performed by Gordon Waller of Peter and Gordon? WC -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:30:38 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Ecology songs > Hi, I'm compiling a list of pop songs about ecology or pollution from > the 60s/70s. Anyone have suggestions? Speak of the devil: "Smog" by Johnny Donn is up on musica right now. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 22:54:22 EST From: Scott Subject: Re: Ecology songs There's actually an album entitled "Ecology" by a band with the same name. Scott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 04:08:59 -0000 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Re: Helen Miller / Bernadette Castro Mike Edwards wrote: > Two of Helen's songs by Bernadette Castro, "His Lips Get In The Way" > (Colpix, 1964) and "A Girl In Love Forgives" (Colpix, 1965) reached > #'s 22 and 18 on WQAM in South Florida. Both are very strong girl- > group sounds. Both had great flips, too: "Sports Car Sally" and "Get > Rid Of Him". The latter was also one of the very few girl-group songs > recorded by Dionne Warwick. Bernadette was given lots of promotion in South Florida, where she lived in the mid 60s. It was in the best interests of both WQAM and WFUN to play her records, considering how much advertising $$$ her father was spending with the stations. (Bernard Castro was the president of Castro Convertibles.) Bernadette went to school with the late Charles Kappes, a long-time Florida radio newsman, who told me she was a true "sports car Sally" when she was a teenager! When she was running for the U.S. senate a few years ago, I played her record "The Slosh" on my radio program and was talking about how cool it would be to have a senator who knows how to dance The Slosh! Jeff Lemlich http://www.limestonerecords.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:02:12 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Moon Wasn't The Moon Beach Boys DAvid Mark's later group after the Marksmen? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 05:39:54 -0000 From: Scott Subject: Re: More Toni tunes + Dottie West Allan, Thanks for your replies. Regarding Toni and Dottie West: during what period did they write the songs together? Late 60s? 70? 71? 72? Or later? Even an approximation will help. By the way, please let her know I just bought the Blue Lady Petula CD last year and love her contributions to the album. Of all her songs that HAVE been recorded yet gone unreleased, what is her greatest disappointment? The Ronnie Spector sessions with Chips? Un unreleased solo album of her own perhaps? And what is Toni's most recent song to be recorded? I mean-- what song that she has written most recently has been recorded? Is she still actively shopping new songs around? Thanks again! Scott in Houston -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:50:03 EST From: Bill George Subject: Jackie DeShannon I've added a song to musica. "Jimmy Baby" which was recorded by Bob B. Soxx and the Blue Jeans (Darlene Love on lead). But this is Jackie DeShannon's demo of the song. Her version is much rawer and rocking that Darlene's. Truly one of her great lost performances. She has so many great demos. Liberty didn't know what they were doing with her... -Bill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:51:04 -0000 From: Delia Barnard Subject: Re: Ecology songs > Hi, I'm compiling a list of pop songs about ecology or pollution from > the 60s/70s. Anyone have suggestions? Tom Lehrer did a song called Pollution and various others on a similar theme....and of course Eve Of Destruction (erm....mind's gone blank... Barry McGuire?) x Delia x -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:06:06 -0000 From: Phil Chapman Subject: Re: Jackie DeShannon Bill George wrote: > I've added a song to musica. "Jimmy Baby" which was recorded > by Bob B. Soxx and the Blue Jeans (Darlene Love on lead). But > this is Jackie DeShannon's demo of the song. Her version is > much rawer and rocking that Darlene's. Truly one of her great > lost performances. Agreed, it is a great lost vocal. I equally like Darlene's gospel -flavoured approach. Interesting to note the power of a lead vocal to influence the overall perception of a recording: Both versions of "Jimmy Baby" share the same backing track. Same goes for Jackie's demo and the Bob B. Soxx version of "I Shook The World". Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:13:09 -0500 From: James F. Cassidy Subject: Re: Helen Miller / Howie Greenfield tunes Interesting that both Helen Miller and Timi Yuro were name-checked in the last Spectropop digest; I was just listening to "The Best of Timi Yuro," which includes "13th Hour," a Helen Miller / Howie Greenfield tune that respectfully suggests adding another hour to the clock so that brokenhearted folks can get their crying done in an efficient and timely manner. Jim Cassidy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 06:10:07 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Taber Subject: Tom Fulton R.I.P. I came up with a term that I use in my own head for such music (such as by the Sweet, or Mud's "Tiger Feet") - I call it "Rumble Gum". On a sadder note - AM 740 Toronto's DJ Tom "The Big Kahuna" Fulton passed away just after completing his morning show yesterday. He was 58. Tom Taber -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:18:42 +0100 From: Eddy Smit Subject: Re: Moon / David Marks Yes indeed. Although actually David Marks first joined Matthew Moore Plus Four (one 45 on White Whale). They then dropped the Plus Four (one 45 on Capitol)and then evolved into The Moon. Two albums and three 45's, all on Imperial, is their legacy. As far as I know, after that he only appeared on albums by Denny Brooks and Buzz Clifford. Anybody know if he did anything after that ? Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:33:16 -0000 From: Patrick Rands Subject: Re: Peggy Clinger/Johnny Cymbal Mick Patrick wrote: > I can identify two of the songs on your list: > "Mookie Mookie Man" was recorded by Cymbal and Clinger on MGM 14256 > in 1971, the other side being "Pool Shooter". The same coupling was > also issued on Marina 502. "Ragamuffin Man" was recorded by Dallas > on Marina 501 with "Take You Where The Music's Playing" on the b- > side. It was also issued on> Marina 504 with "Concrete And Clay" as > its flipside. Well, I have gotten both the Cymbal and Clinger Mookie Mookie Man/The Pool Shooter 45 and the Dallas Ragamuffin Man/Take You Where The Music's Playing 45 and boy are they great. Especially the Dallas 45 - which is basically Johnny Cymbal! Did everyone else know this except me? Ragamuffin Man has that Neil Diamond sound. Take You Where The Music's Playing is a Greenwich/Barry tune which is totally killer. It must've been the plugside, it's got hit potential written all over it. Did anyone else record Take You Where The Music's Playing ? I'd love to know. :Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 05:10:12 -0600 From: Nick Archer Subject: Re: Ecology songs > Hi, I'm compiling a list of pop songs about ecology or pollution > from the 60s/70s. Anyone have suggestions? Tower of Power did a couple..."Of the Earth" from Bump City, and "There's Only So Much Oil in the Ground". Nick Archer Check out Nashville's classic SM95 on the web at http://www.live365.com/stations/nikarcher -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:26:03 +0100 From: Stephane Rebeschini Subject: Re: Ecology songs Previously: > Hi, I'm compiling a list of pop songs about ecology or pollution from > the 60s/70s. Anyone have suggestions? Hi, Some LPS with songs about ecology or pollution: - ECOLOGY: "ENVIRONMENT/EVOLUTION" (Happy Tiger HT 1008) 1970, with Val Stoecklein, ex Blue Things - POLLUTION (horn rock/soul, with James Quill Smith, Dobie Gray and Tata Vega): "POLLUTION" (Prophesy Records SD 6051) 1971, "POLLUTION II" (Prophesy Records SD 6057) 1972 - DANNY HOLIEN (ex The Shades and Midwest): DANNY HOLIEN (Tumbleweed TWS- 102) 1971 - RARE EARTH (white soul rock, on Motown sub label): ECOLOGY (Rare Earth RS 514) 1971 - SAGITTARIUS: THE BLUE MARBLE (Together 1002) 1969 - Jack Traylor and Steelwind (Jefferson Airplane friends): CHILD OF NATURE (Grunt BFL1-0194) 1973 Stephane http://octopusmusic.free.fr -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:43:20 -0000 From: Ian Slater Subject: Re: Ecology songs r13dodo: > Hi, I'm compiling a list of pop songs about ecology or pollution from > the 60s/70s. Anyone have suggestions? Well, some favourites of mine, a few having been raised on this forum recently in a different context: Tar and Cement - by Verdelle Smith (very appropriate here in the UK at the moment with the government proposing massive road and airport building schemes and ignoring its own environmental advisors - oops, sorry, shouldn't get political!) Big Yellow Taxi by Joni Mitchell London Calling by the Clash (not exactly Spectropop and only just 70s - but what a record!) Ian Slater -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 18:06:17 -0000 From: Mary S. Subject: Re: Play The Other Side update Phil Milstein wrote: > My "Play The Other Side: B's That Were Made To Be Flipped" > compilation is progressing well. Thanks again to all who have > contributed. I'm submitting this update primarily to reveal > the press-stopping news that "Pow-Wow", the mastered-backwards > flip of the 1910 Fruitgum Co.'s "Indian Giver", is a garage-pop > version of "The Howdy Doody Theme." I realize this may sound > like an early (or late) April Fool's joke, but it is the fact, > Jack. If the interest is there I shall attempt to squeeze it in > at musica. Thanks for the info, Phil! I happen to have a copy of "Indian Giver", so I'll have to dig it out and play the flip side. I believe that I did play it once years ago, but I have no memory of what it sounded like. Mary S. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:13:11 -0700 From: Ron Weekes Subject: Re: Gene Pitney Tribute CD WC asks: > Has anyone heard of a Gene Pitney Tribute CD featuring a cut performed > by Gordon Waller of Peter and Gordon? Jeff Glenn of The Retros (and a great member of this list) was kind enough to get Gary Pig Gold to send me a copy of this 26 track tribute called The Gene Pitney Story Retold. And yes, Gordon Waller does a cover of "I'm Gonna Be Strong". Others on the comp are Randell Kirsch & Billy Cowsill doing "It Hurts To Be In Love", Al Kooper doing "One Day" and The Retros cover of "I'm Afraid To Go Home". I've played the disc several times as background music. It's an enjoyable listen. I just haven't had the time to give it a serious listen. My general feeling, get the disc! Ron Weekes http://www.garyusher.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:10:37 -0600 From: Justin McDevitt Subject: British wannabees Hello Spectropop, The Knickerbockers with their late-1965 radio hit "Lies", to many ears were compared to the Beatles in their sound and vocal style. A great track, along with their followup, "One Track Mind". Justin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:19:35 -0000 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: The Boys Interesting postings from Leonardo & Karl about The Boys "Splendour In The Grass" for those who don't know The Boys are in fact girls. The picture sleeve (what do you guys want it for, not some dodgy bootleg?!) shows 3 foxy chicks from the Shangs side of the street. "Splendor In The Grass" is also sung in a similar emotive, honest and beautiful way by the Boys/girls. The sleeve lists "You're The Boy" as B Side but my 45's B is "Every Mornin'", wr by 'The Boys' and a pleasant jazz/blues number. Was "You're The Boy" ever released? Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:52:19 -0000 From: Karl Baker Subject: Re: A Spoonful of covers. Do you have Ella Fitzgerald doing "Try A Little Bit" or Lola Falana singing "Coconut Grove"? Karl Baker -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:29:06 -0800 From: Jeffrey Glenn Subject: Re: Gene Pitney Tribute CD Warren Cosford: > Has anyone heard of a Gene Pitney Tribute CD featuring a cut > performed by Gordon Waller of Peter and Gordon? Not only have I heard of it, but the band I'm in is on it. It's called HE'S A REBEL: THE GENE PITNEY STORY RETOLD, and it was released earlier this year on To M'Lou Music. It was put together by my friends Lisa Mychols (whose LOST WINTER'S DREAM - which everybody Spectropper needs - just came out on Rev-Ola/Cherry Red in the UK (right, Joe?:-)) and To M'Lou co-kingpin Gary Pig Gold. For more info on the release including a track listing go to http://www.tomlou.com/pitney.html You can hear a sample of The Retros' (my band) version of "I Don't Want To Go Home" from the CD at http://theretros.tripod.com/sounds.html (it's near the bottom of the page). And now back to our regularly scheduled programming. :-) Jeff -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:46:42 -0000 From: r13dodo Subject: Re: A Spoonful of covers. Steve Harvey wrote: > Looking to build a CD of Lovin' Spoonful covers. Got about ten so far, > the strangest being a tie between Pat Boone vs. the Butthole Surfers. There's the Hondells doing Younger Girl prod. by Gary Usher, Gary Lewis does 6 o clock on Listen!, Rick Nelson does some, Bob Darin too. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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