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Spectropop - Digest Number 701



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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
                  http://www.spectropop.com/Jamie.htm
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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Cliff Richard sings Neil Diamond
           From: Mike Edwards 
      2. Re: Artie Wayne at Scepter
           From: Simon White 
      3. Re: Artie Wayne's Christmas Tree
           From: Artie Wayne 
      4. Re: Artie Wayne at Scepter
           From: Artie Wayne 
      5. Re: P-Nut Gallery / Flying Giraffe
           From: Jeffrey Glenn 
      6. Re: Artie Wayne at Scepter
           From: James Botticelli 
      7. Re: Strawberry Jam / Jamme
           From: Mark Frumento 
      8. Re: Strawberry Jam / Jamme
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
      9. Re: the Ramones
           From: Dave Swanson 
     10. Re: The Ramones under Artie Wayne's Christmas tree
           From: Eddy Smit 
     11. Re: The Parade
           From: Justin McDevitt 
     12. Re: The Clintons
           From: Simon White 
     13. Re: the Clintons
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     14. Re: The Clintons
           From: Artie Wayne 
     15. Cramer, Benjamin to Enter Hall of Fame
           From: Neb Rodgers 
     16. Re: Strawberry Jam / Jamme
           From: Javed Jafri 
     17. Cliff hanger
           From: Steve Harvey 
     18. HAPPY HOLIDAYS !!
           From: Jimmy Crescitelli 
     19. Re: Gentryfied
           From: Phil Milstein 
     20. Re: P-Nut Gallery / Flying Giraffe
           From: Phil Milstein 
     21. Re: Hall of Fame / Strawberry Jam
           From: Bryan 
     22. Re: Late 60s Anglophiles
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     23. Re: Cliff hanger
           From: Richard Tearle 
     24. Lori Burton
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     25. Re: Pretty Flamingo
           From: Mike Edwards 


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Message: 1
   Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 21:47:56 -0000
   From: Mike Edwards 
Subject: Cliff Richard sings Neil Diamond

Cliff Richard came to the US in 1964 and held 4 recording sessions, 02 in New York and 2 in Nashville. He put down 13 tracks but, unlike 
Helen Shapiro with "Helen In Nashville", he did not put out a "Cliff 
In America" album. Instead the tracks were dissipated over a-sides, b-
sides, albums and eps. Neil Diamond wrote one of the songs, "Just 
Another Guy". It was originally issued in the UK as the b-side of "The 
Minute You're Gone". I do not think that there was a US version nor do 
I think it is available on any of Cliff's current CDs. Seems to be too 
good a song to be buried this way.

Mike Edwards





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Message: 2 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 01:11:57 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Artie Wayne at Scepter Mikey: > Artie, my friend Tom Moulton worked at Scepter. Were you there > when he was there? Tom Moulton the genius? Now we're talking! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 17:23:23 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Artie Wayne's Christmas Tree Yes....Phil there are two George Clintons....but only one Santa Claus !!! regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 17:29:02 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Artie Wayne at Scepter David.....Thanks for the info.....I only had a nodding aquaintance with Luther Dixon...I agree with you that his contributions to music history are underrated. Mikey.......The name Tom Moulton sounds really familiar....he might've been in a dept. I wasn't in daily contact with. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 18:13:08 -0800 From: Jeffrey Glenn Subject: Re: P-Nut Gallery / Flying Giraffe I have both of these, and they're not the same recording - in fact they're not even the same song. Here are the credits from the 45s: Do You Know What Time It Is (Flax-Lambert) (P-Nut Gallery, Buddah BDA-239: 1971, Produced by Bobby Flax & Lanny Lambert for Very Very Productions Ltd.) Bring Back Howdy Doody (J. Katz-J. Kasenetz-S. Doworkin-G. Willet) (Flying Giraffe, Bell B-801: 1969, Produced by J. Katz and J. Kasenetz - A Super K Production, A Product of Kasenetz-Katz Assoc.) The Flying Giraffe song is based on the actual Howdy Doody theme, while the P-Nut Gallery is simply a great slice of bubblegum (and the better of the two IMHO). If "Pow Wow" is a garage version of the Howdy Doody theme, I'm guessing neither of these is the basis of it (these are both pure bubblegum). Jeff -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 20:58:00 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Artie Wayne at Scepter > my friend Tom Moulton a legend -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 03:32:00 -0000 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Re: Strawberry Jam / Jamme Mike Dugo wrote: > Is anybody on this list familiar with a late '60's band named > Strawberry Jam, or Jamme? They were called Jamme and they were produced by John Phillips. Really the group was two brothers: Don Adey and Keith Adey. The LP is quite good. The songs really hold up even past the fake British accents. Especially good is "Strawberry Jam Man" and "Jan." They get seem to get grouped with a few of the other really good British imitators of the day like Mortimer (sometimes dead ringers for the Bee Gees). Another good band along these lines was Buckwheat who were from Texas. My favorite of US bands wanting to be the British was Family Tree (their LP was Miss Butters). Maybe others can provide a list of thier favorite British wannabees from the late 60s/70s? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 04:31:23 -0000 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Re: Strawberry Jam / Jamme Mike Dugo wrote: > Is anybody on this list familiar with a late '60's band named > Strawberry Jam, or Jamme? Hi Mike, The album came out under the name "Jamme", on Dunhill 50072. There was also at least one single off the album, also on Dunhill. Jeff Lemlich http://www.limestonerecords.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 00:00:40 -0500 From: Dave Swanson Subject: Re: the Ramones Mick Patrick: > A question: Is the...pre-"End Of The Century" LP (version of "Rock > & Roll High Scool", the) one Spector was called in to remix for > the movie soundtrack, out on CD? The original soundtrack version is available on the soundtrack which is still available on CD, maybe only as an import at this point. God bless The Ramones! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 07:47:41 +0100 From: Eddy Smit Subject: Re: The Ramones under Artie Wayne's Christmas tree Artie Wayne wrote: > ... time I was Gen. Mgr. of Warner Brothers Music and in the summer > of '72 I was sitting in my office with George S. Clinton [composer > for "Austin Powers" 1, 02 and 3]. Phil M; > This one a different George Clinton than the Parliafunkadeliment dude? Yes. As far as I know he started off in Nashville, doing sessions & writing. Went to LA where his songs got recorded by a.o. Michael Jackson and Smokey Robinson. While still doing sessions, made 4 solo albums, then formed the George Clinton Band. Went into movie soundtracks 1983 with Still Smokin'. Did a lor of work for producer Zalman King (movies and the Red Shoe Diaries series). Also did some musical work. Mick Patrick: > An observation: > Rhino's new revamped "End Of The Century" CD contains two > versions of "Rock & Roll Highschool"; the original demo plus > the Spector-produced recording. > A question: > Is the other version of the song, the pre-"End Of The Century" > one Spector was called in to remix for the movie soundtrack, > out on CD? Mick, Isn't that the version that's on HEY HO LET'S GO - THE RAMONES ANTHOLOGY ?! Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 00:43:38 -0700 From: Justin McDevitt Subject: Re: The Parade Paul wrote: > How can I get a copy of The Parade CD? I've looked on the > net but can't find it anywhere". Paul, Some months ago, I purchased a copy of the Japaneese release of the Parade CD from a purveyor of all things CD, located in Canada. The name of the site escapes me now, though I have their email address at work and can email it to you this Monday. In other Sunshine Pop news, a mystery has been solved. Sometime last winter, I posted a message to the list regarding a specific song that I'd heard a couple of times on the radio in the late summer of 1968. The only lyrics that I could recall from the song was the repeated phrase: "and I knew, that you knew, that I knew--". Well wouldn't you know it! The song is included on a recent purchase of a CD comp called "Love and Sunshine, The Best of the Love Generation". I believe that this group and the CD have been mentioned here over the past months. To paraphrase the AMG bio on this group, the Love Generation embraced this musical genre, sometimes to the extreme. As I recall from the piece on the group, most of their material was original. though as I listened to the CD, it was obvious that thy drew their inspiration and melodic muse from a number of groups from this time. On one track, I heard bits of the Turtles, The Left Banke, the Mamas and Papas and the Parade. Needless to say, by the end of the listening session, I was floating on a happy magic mushroom cloud and wishing that I still had my love beads, which included pieces of eucalyptus, along with bells, vari-colored beads, interspersed with pieces of bamboo. Finally, with the recent passing of my first anniversary as a Spectropop list member, I have been truly enriched by the diversity of knowledge and various kinds of experience in the music industry that are represented by list members, on both sides of the big pond. As I review each Digest, I find that there is always something that captures my attention, regardless of my knowledge, or lack of--- regarding the particular group or artist. The recent discussions regarding the DC5, the Hermits, Tony Wine and Gene Pitney, (to name just a few) have been fascinating. Another recent posting identifying a link to an article about the Shangri-las drew me to this site and I spent a great lunchtime break reading about this dynamic group of young women. What a legacy! The other night I listened to the Phil Spector Christmas LP which immediately brought the Spectropop group to mind. Each track had an entirely new significance for me, because of my link to this group and my greater link to the artists on the record, based on the background and knowledge that I have gained from the listserv. What the heck, I started tearing-up when the Crystals, Santa Claus Is Coming To Town started playing. Thanks for a great year. God's blessings to all of you and may your new year be Spectropopfull of good music, good health and peace. Justin McDevitt -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:17:36 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Re: The Clintons George Clinton? Is this the guy on ABC in '74, "Please Dont Run"? Jerry Fuller produced. The Northern Soul scene played it - I'm going to slot it into my show today......along with requests for the D.C. Blossoms, Ike and Tina, The Carolines and Bobby Paris........ PLUG ! PLUG ! Sunday 8th December on Soul 24-7 7pm-9pm GMT http://www.Soul24-7.com The Metropolitan Soul Show 2 hours of Northern Soul This week - The Utterly Marvellous Simon White -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:38:36 -0800 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re: the Clintons Eddy Smit wrote: > Yes. As far as I know he started off in Nashville, doing sessions > & writing. Went to LA where his songs got recorded by a.o. > Michael Jackson and Smokey Robinson. While still doing sessions, > made 4 solo albums, then formed the George Clinton Band. The Funkadelic man did work at Motown though, didn't he? At least he hasn't been denying it when certain (G.Clinton) credits are attributed to him. It seems to have become established as fact in recent years that he wrote songs for (I think) the Four Tops and the Jackson Five. There's a Clinton track on the second J5 album - who wrote that one? I know there are a few Motown buffs out there who can clear this up. Regards, Guy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 06:15:18 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: The Clintons Simon.....Phil......George Clinton without the S. usually identifies the "Funkmeister"....while George S. Clinton identifies the film composer ["Mortal Combat"..."Austin Powers 1, 02 and 3"]. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 07:41:22 -0800 (PST) From: Neb Rodgers Subject: Cramer, Benjamin to Enter Hall of Fame Cramer, Benjamin to Enter Hall of Fame Pianist Floyd Cramer, drummer Benny Benjamin, saxophonist Steve Douglas and producer Mo Ostin will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's class of 2003 in the Sidemen and Non-performer categories. http://tm0.com/RSWeekly/sbct.cgi?s=419424790&i=684201&m=1&d=3575033 It's good to see deserving sidemen getting nominated to the hall of fame as well. -Neb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:07:00 -0500 From: Javed Jafri Subject: Re: Strawberry Jam / Jamme Mark Frumento: > They get seem to get grouped with a few of the other really good > British imitators of the day like Mortimer (sometimes dead ringers > for the Bee Gees). Another good band along these lines was Buckwheat > who were from Texas. My favorite of US bands wanting to be the > British was Family Tree (their LP was Miss Butters). The Family Tree included Bob Segarini who would later go on to form the great power pop band The Wackers and become somewhat of a power pop icon here in Canada. The Wackers's Gary Usher produced single "I Hardly Know Her Name" is one my favorites from the early 70's.. He was also a DJ here in Toronto for a few years. Does anyone know what Bob is up to these days? Javed -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 09:28:58 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Cliff hanger Mike, Glad to hear something about Cliff on this site. Just got the DVDs of his best known films. Been reading about these films for years, but never saw them on tv or the videos. Anybody into the Shadows on this site and their secret weapon, Jerry Lordan (due for a Spectro piece)? Flip, flop and fly, Steve Harvey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 12:57:17 EST From: Jimmy Crescitelli Subject: HAPPY HOLIDAYS !! To all... the best of the season and all the good things it can bring to you and yours, from me and mine. Sincerely, Jimmy Crescitelli P.S. 700 Digests! Wow !! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:07:11 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Gentryfied Getting back to Bobbie Gentry for a mo', can anyone recommend a reasonably comprehensive CD set on her? Besides the hit I've heard a few other cuts by her here and there over the years, and have always been extremely impressed by them. I think it is now time I finally get my hands dirty with some hardcore Gentry. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 11:02:10 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: P-Nut Gallery / Flying Giraffe Jeffrey Glenn wrote: > If "Pow Wow" is a garage version of the Howdy Doody theme, I'm guessing > neither of these is the basis of it (these are both pure bubblegum). It might then be another recording of the same song, as the refrain of Wow-Wop = the title of the Flying Giraffe record (is that an A- or B-side?). I guess there's one way to find out. I'll get it up there ASAP. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 11:02:59 -0800 From: Bryan Subject: Re: Hall of Fame / Strawberry Jam > Pianist Floyd Cramer, drummer Benny Benjamin, saxophonist Steve Douglas > and producer Mo Ostin will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of > Fame's class of 2003 in the Sidemen and Non-performer categories. "Producer" Mo Ostin? :-) > The Family Tree included Bob Segarini who would later go on to form the > great power pop band The Wackers and become somewhat of a power pop icon > here in Canada. The Wackers's Gary Usher produced single "I Hardly Know > Her Name" is one my favorites from the early 70's.. He was also a DJ here > in Toronto for a few years. Does anyone know what Bob is up to these days? Segarini is a frequent poster on the Audities list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/audities Bryan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:55:20 -0800 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re: Late 60s Anglophiles Mark Frumento wrote: > Maybe others can provide a list of their favorite British wannabees > from the late 60s/70s? The first Moon album, as included on the new Revola CD (revola.co.uk), definitely has that Sgt. Pepper/"Bee Gees 1st" sound that was hip for a few months of 1967. Talking of Revola, while their Hearts And Flowers CD is released this week in the UK, their mouth-watering Marc Eric and Forum discs look like they'll now be released on the 16th. Nearly all of their releases have had their release dates put back a few times. Excellent stuff though, and I see they have a new Millenium collection coming soon. Regards, Guy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 20:23:41 -0000 From: Richard Tearle Subject: Re: Cliff hanger Hi Steve - re your question, I'm a big Shadows fan since Apache first pounded into the charts. Saw most of the Cliff films at the cinema too. Saw him and the Shads at Finsbury Park Astoria...Those early Shads instrumentals are still exciting and nearly all of them were so well named!! Hank Marvin is (IMHO) vastly underrated as a guitarist - Shads tunes are simple enough to play (for the most part) and he did them to perfection - but he could mix it with the very best of them if he wanted too. Bruce was just superb as a rhythm guitar - spot on every time. I liked Jet as the basssist best and good as Tony Meehan was, Brian Bennett was a consummate drummer....I prefer the earlier stuff for its rawness - when they changed to Burns guitars it was so much smoother and lost a little bit of excitement - but thats only a personal opinion. Cheers, Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:54:48 -0800 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Lori Burton Digging out the Jackson Five's ABC album to check on G. Clinton credits got me wondering about Pam Sawyer, who wrote "2-4-6-8" - one of one of my favourite records, and Lori Burton with whom she frequently worked with. Anyway, I came across this fascinating Lori Burton biog: http://beatlesundercover.cncoffice.com/sample.htm which should be of great interest to all Specropoppers. Didn't know she made a solo album for Mercury in '67? I bet there's someone on the group who can tell me all about it! Regards, Guy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 21:02:15 -0000 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Re: Pretty Flamingo Regarding songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record, Artie Wayne wrote: > This will be an interesting subject to research. Off the top of my > head there's Mark Barkan's "Pretty Flamingo". I found a couple of alternate listings from 1966: one by Tommy Vann even managed to bubble under. I have played a version by Dino, Desi & Billy to musica. It was released in December 1966 so it was most likely a cover of the M-Mann version, which charted as early as early as April in the UK. DD&B's recording is the b-side of "If You're Thinking What I'm Thinking" and probably belongs there, as it is not as good as the Manfreds' version. Enjoy though, Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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