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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: DC5
           From: Steve Harvey 
      2. Kingsmen / Shirelles
           From: Artie Wayne 
      3. Romark Discogaphy
           From: Leonardo Flores 
      4. Re: Romark Discogaphy
           From: Mike Edwards 
      5. Re: Shirelles
           From: David Bell 
      6. Re: Jet Harris
           From: Richard Havers 
      7. Re: Baby Let Me Be Your Baby
           From: Ian Chapman 
      8. Re: Artie Wayne at Scepter
           From: Mick Patrick 
      9. Re: Kingsmen
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     10. Re: Kingsmen / Shirelles
           From: Mike Edwards 
     11. Re:  Kingsmen (anecdotally)
           From: James Botticelli 
     12. Soldier Boy off-shoots
           From: Ian Chapman 
     13. Play The Other Side update
           From: Phil Milstein 
     14. Re: Bergen White
           From: Cedric Chaillet 
     15. Re: Play The Other Side update
           From: Phil Milstein 
     16. Re: Play The Other Side update
           From: Andrew Jones 
     17. Re: Kingsmen
           From: Eddy Smit 
     18. Wonderful, Radio, Soul24-7
           From: Simon White 


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Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 06:15:34 -0800 (PST)
   From: Steve Harvey 
Subject: Re: DC5

I meet Nick Lowe's band back in the 80s. I remember one member 
saying that Dave Clark actually toured the UK (on the DC5's 
sole UK tour) with a drummer behind the curtain while Dave 
mimed the drums. Farfetched, not really, I've read the same 
thing about Jet Harris having a "sub" behind the curtain to 
play bass. This was after Jet had left the Shadows.




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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 06:37:28 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Kingsmen / Shirelles When I was a staff writer/producer at Scepter records I co-produced a few records on the Kingsmen and the Shirelles. The A-sides, "Killer Joe" and "Met him on a sunday '66" are available in various collections.....but I'm looking for two titles that I wrote "It's Only the Dog" [Kingsmen] and "Mama, My Soldier boy is coming home" [Shirelles]. Has anyone seen them? regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 02:22:43 -0000 From: Leonardo Flores Subject: Romark Discogaphy Hello all, I'm looking for a discography for the Romark label. I just can't seem to find it anywhere. Thanks, Leonardo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 14:39:37 -0500 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Re: Romark Discogaphy Leonardo Flores writes: > I'm looking for a discography for the Romark label. I just can't > seem to find it anywhere. Hi Leonardo, Go to http://www.recordmaster.com/default.cfm There is a tab, under "Concise Reference Guide" in the panel on the left of the Spectropop home page. Set up a search under label for "Romark". You'll find 4 titles, but that's a start. I tried another data base and that only listed the Phillips Sisters on Romark 106, so maybe there are only 4 titles. Good hunting, Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 14:30:15 EST From: David Bell Subject: Re: Shirelles Hello Artie, Your enquiry about Mama, Your Soldier Boy Is Coming Home sent me scurrying to my Shirelles cd box and I found (and have just played) the track on a British cd release called "The Shirelles - The Definitive Collection" on the Charly label - CPCD 8190-2. It's an astounding two disc set which contains so many great Shirelles tracks. Best wishes, David. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 20:13:14 +0000 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: Jet Harris Steve Harvey wrote: > I've read the same thing about Jet Harris having a "sub" behind the > curtain to play bass. This was after Jet had left the Shadows. Just to confirm the Jet story, this comes from Bill' Wyman's book, Rolling With The Stones: "In York I noticed that Jet Harris had a whole crate of light ale in his dressing room. I was told he had one each night, and drank the lot all by himself! I was also amazed when I found out that he didn't play his bass on stage, but that he mimed to it, while Billy Kuy of the Innocents played Jet's parts, hidden behind the curtains." -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 20:48:15 -0000 From: Ian Chapman Subject: Re: Baby Let Me Be Your Baby Mike Edwards wrote: > (Hint - you kindly took the trouble to advise me that there > was a US version of Deano's "Baby, Let Me Be Your Baby" by > Patti Jerome in 1964). ......and there was another one by Judy Murdock on Tower in '65. Ian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 22:41:38 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Artie Wayne at Scepter Original Message From Artie Wayne: > When I was a staff writer/producer at Scepter records I co- > produced a few records on the Shirelles. (Gag!) Blimey, as an industrial strength Shirelles buff, I'm more than a little impressed by the fact that we have one of the group's producers in our midst. So, Artie, what was a Shirelles session like? How did you get involved with Scepter? What was the legendary Florence Greenberg like? Who was your co-producer? Do tell.... MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:27:55 -0800 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re: Kingsmen From Artie Wayne: > When I was a staff writer/producer at Scepter records I co- > produced a few records on the Kingsmen and the Shirelles. I'm > looking for two titles that I wrote "It's Only the Dog" [Kingsmen] > and "Mama, My Soldier boy is coming home" [Shirelles]. Hi Artie, nice to meet you! "It's Only The Dog" is available as an bonus track on the Sundazed reissue of "Kingsmen Volume 3" - very good it is too! Sundazed can be found at http://www.sundazed.com That CD also contains a treat for Joey Levine fans - his "Wolf Of Manhattan". "It's Only The Dog" was also recorded in England by the Nightriders who were closely connected personnel-wise to many of the great Birmingham groups of the '60s. The details being: "It's Only The Dog/ Your Friend" Polydor Bm56116 November '66. This version is also excellent and has been reissued on at least one compilation (no details to hand I'm afraid). Regards, Guy Lawrence. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 14:54:47 -0500 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Re: Kingsmen / Shirelles Artie Wayne asks: > When I was a staff writer/producer at Scepter records I co-produced > a few records on the Kingsmen and the Shirelles. The A-sides, "Killer > Joe" and "Met him on a sunday '66" are available in various > collections.....but I'm looking for two titles that I wrote "It's > Only the Dog" [Kingsmen] and "Mama, My Soldier boy is coming home" > [Shirelles]. Has anyone seen them?" Artie, From http://www.recordmaster.com/ : 1) Kingsmen - Gamma Goochie/It's Only The Dog (Wand 1107) 1965. There was a lot of interest in the Gamma Goochie on this site a few days' ago. Maybe a member has this record and can play the b-side to musica for you. 2) Soldier Boys - I'm Your Soldier Boy/You Picked Me (Scepter 1230) 1962. Same label and year (1962) as the Shirelles' "Soldier Boy". I cannot find the title you specifically ask for in any data base. However, Spectropop is blessed with some industrial strength Shirelles' experts so maybe they will be able to find this title. Meantime, as a 1962 collector, I would like to hear the Soldier Boys, if anyone has a copy to play to musica. Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 17:43:52 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Kingsmen (anecdotally) > From Artie Wayne: >> I co- produced a few records on the Kingsmen.."It's Only the Dog" Guy Lawrence: > Hi Artie, nice to meet you! "It's Only The Dog" is available A Kingsmen anecdote...Back in 1965 while the Kingsmen were indeed the kings of garage--which in my hometown of Lexington, MA was the epitome of existence itself--our school actually brought the Kingsmen in to perform on a Friday afternoon after school concert in the auditorium. BUT before they were allowed to perform (they had already arrived in their stenciled tour bus and were parked in the legendary 'quadrangle') Lynn Eastman (lead vocalist?) was sent to the P.A. system to A - Introduce himself and hype the appearance, and B - Officially completely disassociate himself with any sexual innuendo alleged to have inserted itself into "Louie Louie". JB/A Torture of Love -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 23:09:39 -0000 From: Ian Chapman Subject: Soldier Boy off-shoots Mike Edwards wrote: > Soldier Boys - I'm Your Soldier Boy/You Picked Me (Scepter 1230 > 1962. Same label and year (1962) as the Shirelles' "Soldier Boy". > ....as a 1962 collector, I would like to hear the Soldier Boys, > if anyone has a copy to play to musica. The Soldier Boys' "I'm Your Soldier Boy" although an answer song, isn't the Shirelles' song with different lyrics it's similar in style, a nice doo-wop ballad, but written by Don Covay, Robert Spencer and John Barry, with production by Don Covay and Wally Roker. (Wonder if Don Covay was in the group?) While we're on the subject, now seems a fitting time to mention another "Soldier Boy" off-shoot, also on Scepter: "Hurry Home To Me (Soldier Boy)" by Valli. Also issued in '62 in fact only a mere five issues after the Shirelles' hit this is a remarkable piece of recycling, even for Scepter, who were renowned for recording more than one artist on the same backing track. But this time, it's not just the backing track it's the whole record! Get this Valli, who has a rather straight white teen sound (think Kathy Young) sings the intro: "Dearest, I'm sending you this record now that you're oh, so far away listen, please listen to what it has to say..." and yep, you guessed up strikes the intro to "Soldier Boy". The song is played in its entirety with Valli singing against the Shirelles in a counter-melody. Quite a cute novelty in its own way. Seems an odd marketing strategy, though did Scepter really think they could score two hits from the one song? Especially considering "Soldier Boy" was probably still in the charts when the Valli record was issued! When space allows, Mike, I'll play both the Soldier Boys and Valli to musica. Ian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 18:38:41 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Play The Other Side update My "Play The Other Side: B's That Were Made To Be Flipped" compilation is progressing well. Thanks again to all who have contributed. I'm submitting this update primarily to reveal the press-stopping news that "Pow-Wow", the mastered-backwards flip of the 1910 Fruitgum Co.'s "Indian Giver", is a garage-pop version of "The Howdy Doody Theme." I realize this may sound like an early (or late) April Fool's joke, but it is the fact, Jack. If the interest is there I shall attempt to squeeze it in at musica. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 01:31:44 -0000 From: Cedric Chaillet Subject: Re: Bergen White Luis Suarez wrote: > I've posted "The Bird Song" from "For Women Only" to musica. I just > recently bought this record and it's all I've been listening to! > Bergen White has a gorgeous voice - Too bad he didn't make any other > Lp's in this vein. Someone mentioned that he had some non-Lp 45 > sides around the same time. I'd love to know the titles and labels > so I can keep an eye out. I agree with Luis on this one. It's an absolute gem! Maybe the best soft pop album (with the Roger Nichols one) i ever heard...I'd love to know more on this LP or anything else on the man himself! Does anyone know where to find some discography or something..? Cedric -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 21:56:28 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Play The Other Side update I wrote: > the press-stopping news that "Pow-Wow", the mastered-backwards > flip of the 1910 Fruitgum Co.'s "Indian Giver", is a garage-pop > version of "The Howdy Doody Theme." To clarify my own message, I meant that when the mastered-backwards song is itself reversed, so that it plays in its originally-recorded direction, it plays a version (with additional lyrics expressing love for the show) of "The Howdy Doody Theme." --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 23:15:50 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Jones Subject: Re: Play The Other Side update Phil: One of my sub-specialties (in record collecting) just happens to be Buddah Backward B-sides. I've long wished someone would put out a whole album of them - of course, I'd probably be the only one who'd buy it! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:06:49 +0100 From: Eddy Smit Subject: Re: Kingsmen From Artie Wayne: > When I was a staff writer/producer at Scepter records I co- > produced a few records on the Kingsmen and the Shirelles. I'm > looking for two titles that I wrote "It's Only the Dog" [Kingsmen] > and "Mama, My Soldier boy is coming home" [Shirelles]. Guy Lawrence: > Hi Artie, nice to meet you! "It's Only The Dog" is available as an > bonus track on the Sundazed reissue of "Kingsmen Volume 3" - very > good it is too! "It's Only The Dog" was also recorded in England by > the Nightriders. The details being: "It's Only The Dog/Your Friend" > Polydor Bm56116 November '66. "It's only the dog" by the Nightriders has been released on two comps that I know of (both UK): Electric Sugarcube Flashback Vol 1 (Archive International Productions AIP 10008) from 1983 and Electric Sugarcube Flashback Vol 3 (Archive International Productions AIP 10050) from 1989. Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:13:44 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Wonderful, Radio, Soul24-7 This Sunday 8th December on Soul 24-7 7pm-9pm GMT http://www.Soul24-7.com The Metropolitan Soul Show, 02 hours of Northern Soul This week - The Utterly Marvellous Simon White Any requests before Sunday afternoon please -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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