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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
                  http://www.spectropop.com/Jamie.htm
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There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. New at Spectropop
           From: Spectropop 
      2. Re: Graham Gouldman
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
      3. My Sweet Lord Plagiarism Suit
           From: bryan 
      4. Subject: Re: Copyrights (Bill Wyman)
           From: Norman 
      5. more on Gamma Goochee
           From: Phil Milstein 
      6. Teresa Graves
           From: Stuffed Animal 
      7. Helen Shapiro - Original US versions
           From: Mike Edwards 
      8. Re: Herman's Hermits
           From: Mikey 
      9. Re: Helen Shapiro - Original US versions
           From: Mick Patrick 
     10. Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US  original record
           From: Phil Milstein 
     11. American artist, overseas-only hit
           From: Phil Milstein 
     12. Helen Shapiro
           From: Ian Chapman 


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Message: 1
   Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:54:05 -0000
   From: Spectropop 
Subject: New at Spectropop

Dear Members,

New at Spectropop Recommends: The Ramones

One, two, three, four... The Ramones' Phil Spector-produced 
"End Of The Century" album is back in the shops in digital format. 
Martin Roberts brushes his hair over his eyes, dons his black 
leather jacket and torn jeans to get in the mood. Click below to 
read his review:

http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/index.htm#ramones

Gabba, Gabba, Hey!

The Spectropop Team



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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:08:41 -0000 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Re: Graham Gouldman Artie Wayne wrote: > When Graham Gouldman chose to do "One by One" as a single > for the Mockingbirds I was knocked out!! He was one of my > favorite writers...with all the Hollies and Yardbird stuff!! Artie, I totally agree! The Mockingbirds did an ace version of your song. It's come out in recent years on a few compilations, including an "English Freakbeat" album! Didn't Gouldman & the Mockingbirds record this about a year or so prior to your Shadow Mann album? Also... do you remember who played on your "Automated Man" single? Another really good pop-psych tune there! Jeff Lemlich http://www.limestonerecords.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 06:26:33 -0800 From: bryan Subject: My Sweet Lord Plagiarism Suit http://abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/mysweet.htm This link will take you to a very interesting web article by Joseph Self, called "The "My Sweet Lord"/"He's So Fine" Plagiarism Suit". I encourage anyone who wants to know more about what *actually* happened to check it out. It's quite a story. Bryan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 22:40:23 +1030 From: Norman Subject: Subject: Re: Copyrights (Bill Wyman) Hello, I have a couple of names which are basically a direct copy of other people's names; Mind you, although the originals are well dead, I wonder what the individual's Estates would have thought? Engelbert Humperdinck (Gerry Dorsey) David Garrick (Darrell Corre) and talking of things Shakespearian, William Shakespeare (Johnny Cabe) also: re Herman's Hermits Much of the "Music Hall" songs they did were not as popular in England as they were in the US. And, only Peter Noone appeared on record. The group did the touring but not the recording. Any suggestions on who played on those sessions? Norman -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 09:55:38 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: more on Gamma Goochee Now playing on musica, "Booga Looa" by the Gamma Goochee himself. I've also posted a scan of the pic sleeve (country of origin unknown) to the photos section. Now come on and let's burn some soul. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:12:36 +0000 From: Stuffed Animal Subject: Teresa Graves I was shocked and saddened to learn recently of the tragic passing of singer/actress/comedienne Teresa Graves. She was burned to death in her home after a space heater caught fire. I have fond memories of seeing her on Rowan and Martin's "Laugh-In", and of course, her TV movie "Get Christie Love!" has a large cult following of which I'm a member. I strongly recommend her 1970 Kirshner album TERESA GRAVES to all Spectropoppers. Miss Graves brought her comedy and considerable vocal talents to twelve sparkling tunes, most written by Brill Building vets Ritchie Adams and Mark Barkan. Believe me, you've never heard anything like it! It's one of the most treasured albums in my collection. RIP Teresa Graves "You're under arrest, sugar!" Stuffed Animal -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:29:12 -0000 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Helen Shapiro - Original US versions Hopefully Spectropop members can help me complete this. I would be grateful if Helen's fans would check over Part 1 to see if the correct US original (or lack of one) has been identified and fill in the blanks in Part 2 where Fred Tobias and Paul Evans seem to have been pretty active (albeit unknowingly). Some of theses tracks come from Helen's 1963 album, "In Nashville", in which case hers may well have been the original version. Part 1 known Tell Me What He Said Wr: Jeff Barry US: Playmates (Roulette, 1961) Keep Away From Other Girls Wr: Bacharach-Hilliard US: Babs Tino (Kapp, 1962) Queen For Tonight Wr: Raleigh-Wayne US: None (as confirmed by Artie Wayne) Woe Is Me Wr: Sheeley-DeShannon US: None (as confirmed by Mick Patrick) Look Over Your Shoulder Wr: Richards-Thomas-Thomas US: Chuck Jackson (Wand, 1964) Tomorrow Is Another Day Wr: Millrose-Rosenblatt US: Doris Troy (Atlantic, 1963) Ole Father Time Wr: Winfield-Scott US: Milly Foster (TCF 4, 1964) (needs to be confirmed) I Was Only Kidding Wr: Goffin-King US: Molly Bee (Liberty, 1963) Not Responsible Wr: Barkan-Raleigh US: Gene Pitney (Musicor, 1963) I Can't Say No To Your Kiss Wr: Spector-Pomus US: None (as confirmed by Mick Patrick) (I have not heard this title) Forget About The Bad Things Wr: Diamond-Radcliffe US: None (as confirmed by Mick Patrick) (appears on the Dutch EMI CD, "The Story Of") Part 2 Not known Daddy Couldn't Get Me One Of Those Wr: Tobias-Evans I Walked In (With My Eyes Wide Open) Wr: Byers It's So Funny I Could Cry Wr: Raleigh Young Stranger Wr: Singleton-Ott No Trespassing Wr: Tobias-Evans When You Hurt Me I Cry Wr: Tobias-Evans Thanks, Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 13:29:51 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Herman's Hermits Norman: > ...only Peter Noone appeared on record. The group did the > touring but not the recording. suggestions on who played > on those sessions? Norman, actually, The Hermits played on 80% of the records. The remaining 20% were done with Jimmy Page, Clem Cattinni, etc, the normal Micky Most session crew. I believe it's only the first few hits (excluding Show Me Girl) that use the session guys. This info came from Barry Whitwam, the drummer for Hermans Hermits since 1963. Regards, Your Friend, Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 21:20:34 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Helen Shapiro - Original US versions Mike Edwards: > Hopefully Spectropop members can help me complete this. I would > be grateful if Helen Shapiro's fans would check to see if the > correct US original (or lack of one) has been identified and fill > in the blanks. Hope the following helps a little, Mike. Ole Father Time Wr: Winfield-Scott US: Milly Foster (TCF 4, 1964) (needs to be confirmed) ***Correct. It's So Funny I Could Cry Wr: Raleigh ***Possibly Charles Pennywell (Smash 1794, 1963), Gary Paxton (Liberty 55407, 1962) or Marion Worth (Columbia 42453, 1962). Needs to be confirmed. Young Stranger Wr: Singleton-Ott ***Lady Luck & the Lullabyes (Philips 40102, 1963) Excellent record. When You Hurt Me I Cry Wr: Tobias-Evans ***Possibly Paul Peek (Mercury 72118, 1963) Needs to be confirmed. MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:07:45 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record Artie Wayne wrote: > As early as 1961, US publishers would ask for original songs > for top artists in other countries. They'd play us their > latest records and we'd run off to write something. So managers of overseas acts would on occasion* deliberately contact U.S. publishers seeking top-shelf material? That sounds logical, as the fact of the quality and hit-making ability of Brill Building and other American writing dens was certainly well-known worldwide. I walk away satisfied ... --Phil M. *As they clearly also made liberal use of the many fine writers already under their noses, if not their thumbs. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:12:48 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: American artist, overseas-only hit To try to get one tangential ball rolling, how big a UK hit was Gene Pitney's original (?) take on "That Girl Belongs To Yesterday"? I don't believe it charted at all in the U.S., and for all I know (although I'm sure someone else does) it didn't even appear on the plug-side of a 45. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 21:16:52 -0000 From: Ian Chapman Subject: Helen Shapiro Mike Edwards re. Helen Shapiro's US originals: > Tell Me What He Said > Wr: Jeff Barry > US: Playmates (Roulette, 1961) > I Was Only Kidding > Wr: Goffin-King > US: Molly Bee (Liberty, 1963) Mike, Ginny Arnell's version of "Tell Me What He Said" appeared in 1960 (Decca 31190), likewise Ann-Margret did "I Was Only Kidding" in 1962 on RCA 47-8061. Ian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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