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Spectropop - Digest Number 679

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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)

There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Delia and Her Actionettes
           From: Jimmy Crescitelli 
      2. Musician wanted to help on pop project
           From: Jed Dubois 
      3. Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US  original record
           From: Artie Wayne 
      4. Re: Where Does A Rock'n'Roll Singer Go?
           From: Artie Wayne 
      5. Re: Art for Arties' sake
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
      6. Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original  record
           From: Peter Lerner 
      7. Re: Copyrights
           From: Dan Hughes 
      8. Re: Graham Gouldman
           From: Artie Wayne 
      9. Re: Helen Shapiro sings Phil Spector
           From: Mick Patrick 
     10. Re: April March
           From: James Botticelli 
     11. Re: BYRDS In the Studio
           From: Lee 
     12. Re: how can they do that?
           From: Dave Swanson 
     13. Re: cut-ins
           From: Doc Rock 
     14. Re: how can they do that?
           From: Eddy Smit 
     15. Re: Copyrights (Bill Wyman)
           From: Lindsay 


Message: 1
   Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:49:27 EST
   From: Jimmy Crescitelli 
Subject: Delia and Her Actionettes

Well, burn my clothes! And it was SO my desire to be an 
Actionette in 2003. And, should my reign have to be cut 
short due to political, emotional, or other reasons, my 
replacement was ready and willing to step into my shoes 
(as it were). Big  ;)

Would be GREAT if your group could take it all on tour, 
you know? I know plenty of folks who would really enjoy 
the songs, the hair, the shoes and the choreography. And 
yes... I'd be able to learn the dance routines via email
.... I taught myself Albanian in that manner, after all!

Thanks for writing,

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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:25:56 +0100 From: Jed Dubois Subject: Musician wanted to help on pop project Hello my name is Jean-Emmanuel Deluxe (Dubois) and I'm in charge of Euro-visions (, a label distributed all over the world (even if it's small quantities! ;-) First release was April March's "Gainsbourgsion!", then Jean-Emmanuel Deluxe & Alexander Faem "Tribute to Alain Delon & Jean-Pierre Melville" featuring as guests Bertrand Burgalat/April March/Saint Etienne/Jacno etc. And now as a licence in France: Pete Aves' "Bystanding" (Pete is a musician for the High llamas/Lee Hazlewood). We have had good press so far, but I need some help for my next recording project read below: I have the same problem that some non-technically minded musicians have, my friends and collaborators simply can't in due time work with me on all the tracks I want to make for my next album. Here's how I work: First, I write lyrics, then I record them to minidisc with a melody, and give this to a keyboard player. After that, I give some opinions and stuff, and eventually get an arranger. Then off to the studio. So if you accept to work with me on some songs, I give you the CD with my vocal melody+lyrics+some suggestions about the "direction". On author rights I give you 50% as the composer (or 40% if somebody else is doing the arrangements) - then you send back the played track to me. Of course if you accept my contract we have to give the artist interested a % of record sale - but I can't give an advance. I don't know, maybe I'm stupid to ask you that - but, nothing ventured, nothing gained! (qui ne tente rien n'a rien!) I would like to release an album somewhere between Harry Nilsson/sophisticated French pop/ vintage electronica etc...! I can give some cool stuff (cd's etc) by way of thanks to the musicians during the making. Is there a musician out there who would like to help on my project? Best- JEd :-) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:27:49 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record Phil Milstein: > I'm curious about the process by which these songs flew across the > ocean for their first flings Phil.....As early as 1961, US publishers would ask for original songs for top artists in other countries. They'd play us their latest records and we'd run off to write something. Paul Vance got the first recording on "Meet me where we used to meet" [D.Jordan/J.Powers/A.Wayne] by Brian Poole and the Tremoloes, released as the B-side of "Someone, Someone" in the US; Ed Silvers and I wrote "Am I losing my touch?" that the Fortunes recorded first. And " Shanghaied on your Ship of love" I wrote with Mitch [Sooner or Later] Bottler for Carl Douglas. I tracked the producer, Biddu, halfway 'round the world to get him to listen to it.....once he did he became the first to cut it. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:50:51 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Where Does A Rock'n'Roll Singer Go? Phil...No need to audition...I like the way you put words together. Where does a rock 'n' roll singer go When his record's off the chart? What does a rock 'n' roll singer do When times get mighty hard? Does he sell ay-ay ice cream With a dip-di di dip of a peppermint twist? Does he just sit back in his Cadillac When his bills are over due Can our teen heartthrob get a regular job When singin's all he ever knew Can he tune a car just like his guitar Is he a mechanic now? Or does he teach school with his golden rule PAPA OO-PAPA OO MOW-MOW Does he sell ay-ay Ice cream With a dip-di di dip of a peppermint twist. Copyright 1963 - Hill and Range music Words + Music - Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:25:20 -0000 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Re: Art for Arties' sake Artie Wayne: > My other solo releases were singles on Smash as Artie Wayne: Smash > 2077 - Automated Man/Listen To The Flowers Growing Good one! > and an album Tomorrow productions distributed by Roulette as > SHADOW MANN [not to be confused with Shadow Morton] Artie, Are you familiar with the Mockingbirds' version of your Shadow Mann song, "One By One"? Just wondering what you thought of it. Thanks, Jeff Lemlich -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:05:51 -0000 From: Peter Lerner Subject: Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record Jackie DeShannon and "Come and stay with me" - recorded by Marianne Faithfull some four or five years before Jackie came out with her own version? Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 18:26:36 -0600 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Re: Copyrights JB: > I heard a report on the Warner Brothers, makers of the film > 'Casablanca', suing the Marx Brothers for using the word in > 'Night In Casablanca'. Hi James, I believe that story (of Marx/Warner Brothers and Casablanca) appears in GROUCHO'S LETTERS, a collection of letters Groucho wrote during his lifetime. It's been a lot of years since I read that book, but I remember enjoying it thoroughly. ---Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 17:38:11 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Graham Gouldman > Artie, Are you familiar with the Mockingbirds' version of your Shadow > Mann song, "One By One"? Just wondering what you thought of it. > Thanks, Jeff Lemlich Jeff.....When Graham Gouldman chose to do "One by One" as a single for the Mockingbirds I was knocked out!! He was one of my favorite writers ....with all of the Hollies and Yardbird stuff!! regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 02:11:51 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Helen Shapiro sings Phil Spector Original Message From Mike Edwards: > Thanks to all who are making contributions to "Songs by US > songwriters for which there is no US original record" list. > As with all lists, you then want to hear the records. How > about Helen Shapiro singing a Phil Spector-Doc Pomus song? > Wow, pretty mind-boggling prospect! Helen Shapiro's recording of the Spector/Pomus-penned "I Can't Say No To Your Kiss" is available on the EMI CD "Helen Shapiro At Abbey Road, 1961-1967" (4 93452 2). The track was recorded in January 1962 but remained unissued until this 1998 CD. The set contains four further previously unreleased masters, including excellent versions of the Marvelettes' "You're My Remedy" and Lesley Gore's "I'm Going Out (The Same Way I Came In)". Don't get your mind too boggled Mike, the Spector- authored song is possibly the least interesting contained on this otherwise top class 28-tracker. Btw, you may have forgotten this, but many years ago you sent me a few cassettes containing girl group and Brill Building- style tracks. I may have never thanked you. You might like to know that I still play those tapes as they contain some great selections I have been unable to locate on my preferred format - 07 inch single. So I am saying a big thank you now. As they say, better late than never. MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 21:25:15 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: April March > ...First release was April March's "Gainsbourgsion!... Fun fact to know and tell: April March is married to Warren Zanes, formerly with the Del Fuegoes of 8T's roots-rock fame JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:10:37 -0500 From: Lee Subject: Re: BYRDS In the Studio Mikey wrote: > Yea, Terry Melcher used the Wrecking crew on most of his > productions, and why not? They knew how to make the hits. > The Rip Chords, The Fantastic Baggies, Bruce and Terry, > The Woodies, The Legendary Masked Surfers, The Wheel Men... > all TM productions, all Wrecking Crew. Mikey, I beg to differ -- The Fantastic Baggies were Sloan/Barri, with a little Lou Adler thrown in; no TM. The Woodies -- who were they? Never heard of them. Legendary Masked Surfers was a Dean Torrence vehicle, with vocal support by Bruce and Terry. Wheel Men were Gary Usher and his "troops" all the way. Head back to "Surf/ Hot Rod 101" for additional homework ;-) With regards to the LA sessioneers playing on the Byrds tracks, I've always thought it was amusing that Michael Clarke vehemently asserted in the booklet to the Byrds boxed set that he played on everything after the the first single ("Mr. Tambourine Man" / "I Knew I'd Want You"), but that same boxed set clearly has Hal Blaine doing the count- in on "She Don't Care About Time!" Lee -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:41:44 -0500 From: Dave Swanson Subject: Re: how can they do that? We always knew Danny was the real talent in the Partridge Family. On a similar note, check out the first song on side one of The Osmonds album "Crazy Horses" called "Hold Her Tight" is a blatant rip off of Led Zep's "Immigrant Song". Seriously! In a related story, the song "Crazy Horses" by the Osmonds actually bears a strong similarity to "Welcome To The Jungle" by Guns N Roses, which, by the way, took it's title from the Hanoi Rocks song "Underwater World". Everyone got that. It's all down to useless knowledge. And rock and roll. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 00:08:54 -0500 From: Doc Rock Subject: Re: cut-ins Another of the same era is "Washer Windshield" doing "Kathy Young Finds The Innocents Guilt" on Indigo, all excerpts featuring those artists. The only copies I've seen were one-sided - blank flip. I have it on a Kathy Young LP. Doc -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 07:15:14 +0100 From: Eddy Smit Subject: Re: how can they do that? I don't think "He's So Fine" and "My Sweet Lord" are *that* similar. I've heard more blatant rip-offs ! But yes, that was George's explanation. He also said that MSL was *inspired* by Oh Happy Day and he wanted to make something like that. Hence the easy singalong groove. But let's be honest you really think George would need to rip-off somebody at the height of his creativity? Let's not forget HSF was only a #16 hit in the UK in the spring of 1963. In other words, what were the chances the Beatles heard this song more than once or twice at a time when Beatlemania was *really* kicking in?! Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 07:23:11 -0000 From: Lindsay Subject: Re: Copyrights (Bill Wyman) James wrote: > the Marx Brothers were copyrighted before Warner Brothers existed > and that the Marxes would sue the Warners for using "brothers" > after the Marx boys used it! That story came to mind when I read this week about a journalist called Bill Wyman who's been cautioned about how he uses "Bill Wyman". In the manner of Groucho to Warners, the journalistic Wyman points out that he was born in 1961 and the Rolling Stone formerly known as William George Perks didn't start using "Bill Wyman" till 1963! Bill Wyman's column on this is at: (BTW, I can't remember where I found this link... If I found it in a recent Spectropop message, and you all know about it anyway, please forgive me!) Lindsay -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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