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Spectropop - Digest Number 660



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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Compared To What?
           From: Rik 
      2. Lonnie Donegan and other bits
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
      3. Re: B's can be Groovy
           From: Mike Carter 
      4. Re: Andrea Carroll
           From: Tony Waitekus 
      5. Bob Crewe Generation
           From: Stefan Wriedt 
      6. Re: Jack Scott and Carroll Baker
           From: Warren Cosford 
      7. Re: Lonnie Donegan
           From: Mick Patrick 
      8. Re: Lovin' Spoonful Live
           From: Mark Frumento 
      9. Compared to What?
           From: James F.  Cassidy 
     10. Re: The Parade
           From: Allen Roberds 
     11. Rascals
           From: Mikey 
     12. I'll Be True To You (Yes I Will)
           From: Mikey 
     13. Party Pics/Mark Wirtz
           From: Martin Roberts 
     14. Re: Pastel Vespa
           From: James Botticelli 
     15. Bob Crewe Generation
           From: James Botticelli 
     16. Latest Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons Fanzine
           From: Ken Charmer 
     17. Re: Party Pics/Mark Wirtz
           From: Mark Frumento 
     18. Re: Rascals
           From: Steve Harvey 
     19. RE: I'll Be True To You (Yes I Will)
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     20. Re: I'll Be True To You (Yes I Will)
           From: James Botticelli 
     21. Re: Rascals
           From: James Botticelli 
     22. Re: Andrea Carroll
           From: Rich G 
     23. Missing the point.
           From: Steve Harvey 
     24. Re: I'll Be True To You (Yes I Will)
           From: Billy G Spradlin 
     25. Re: I'll Be True To You (Yes I Will)
           From: Rich G. 


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Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 11:07:06 -0000
   From: Rik 
Subject: Re: Compared To What?

From Bob Rashkow:
> Just an additional note - my first introduction to Northern Soul
> was through a vinyl comp that included: Queen of Fools - Marie & 
> the Deccors, Sliced Tomatoes - Just Brothers & a really cool tune 
> called Compared to What? can't remember  artists' name.

"Compared To What" was recorded by Mr. Flood's Party, a great 100mph
Northern Soul Stomper!

Rik
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 11:31:26 -0000 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: Lonnie Donegan and other bits I'd like to echo Mick's, Richard's and others comments about the wonderful Lonnie, whose infectious enthusiasm for his craft actually seemed to increase over his life. As well as this great musical legacy, I'd say his lasting legacy was that he made everyone of that generation believe that they could join others and make music. What better way to make the world that little bit better? It's a spirit that is needed more than ever in our schools and lives today. I'll be raising a glass to the man... For what it's worth, my UK copy of The Vontastics on black Chess shows L/M as writers and Northern Songs as publishers. According to the date stamp I used in those days, I bought it on 10th Feb '66 BTW there is an interesting "R&B Christmas Jam" small scale gig my way (in Diss, Norfolk) on Sat 14th Dec featuring Mick Taylor's band and Zoot Money amongst others. Anyone who wants more details email me off list. Kingsley (decidedly not 'outdoorsy' today as its p----- down, and you should have heard the hoot of derision around here when that was written!!) Abbott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:15:40 -0000 From: Mike Carter Subject: Re: B's can be Groovy Re "He's A Bad Boy": Oh Yes! "B" sides are definitely groovy. Thank you Martin Roberts for this groovy gem. Kind of like going down to the boondocks with Brenda Lee and Jackie DeShannon, huh? Ray S. and M.R. definitely bad boys! NOT! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 08:40:56 -0500 From: Tony Waitekus Subject: Re: Andrea Carroll I hope Varese can locate Andrea Carroll. It seem to me there was an interview some time ago in Goldmine with her. I'd also love to get Doo Lang on CD by her, but that track may be too obscure for you. Tony Waitekus WHTS/All Hit 98-9 -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:59:24 +0100 From: Stefan Wriedt Subject: Bob Crewe Generation I just bought a white label copy of a Bob Crewe Generation album. While I tried to check for its release no., I found two entries on http://www.bsnpubs.com without track details - can anybody help ??? Bob Crewe Generation - Dynovoice 1902 - Music To Watch BIRDS By (1967) Bob Crewe Generation - Dynovoice 1906 - The B.C.G. In Classic Form (1968) Best, Stefan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:58:41 -0500 From: Warren Cosford Subject: Re: Jack Scott and Carroll Baker From: Tony Baylis: > Subject: Warren Cosford - Question. Hi Warren, a question for the > resident Jack Scott expert ! I have a listing of all Jack's 45rpm > recordings on my website http://www.widomaker.com/~sabre/Scott1.htm > A chap who viewed it suggested that Jack and Carroll Baker also > recorded 'Burning Bridges', (I guess also on Tembo). Can you validate > this as I haven't heard of any recordings but 'Best of Love'. Hi Tony: Yes they did record the song and I have it on cassette. I don't know if it was ever pressed to 45RPM. I was living in NYC at the time The Project was taking place in Toronto and Nashville so I kind of lost track of what was going on. WC Radiopro (TM) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:06:21 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Lonnie Donegan Obviously, Spectropoppers know a good thing, and Lonnie Donegan was one. He was among the very first to successfully interpret American roots music for the masses. Let's not forget, Elvis Presley's first "pop" hit (previously, he'd scored "country" only), "Heartbreak Hotel", made its initial chart showing in March 1956. Lonnie's "Rock Island Line" was released the previous year and entered the British charts in the first week of 1956. By May it had been a hit THREE times over. A particular favourite in our house was "Betty, Betty, Betty", my mother's name. Then in 1961 Lonnie released his version of "Michael Row The Boat", it was MY turn. Although he had just three successful records in the USA, here in Blighty he had over 30. Of course, he wrote many of his own songs too, the best of which could well be "I'll Never Fall In Love Again" of 1962. It's a beautiful song and performance. MICK PATRICK (Tom Jones? Do me a favour!) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:59:32 -0000 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Re: Lovin' Spoonful Live Steve Harvey wrote: > Hey Varese, > What the hell happened with the live Spoonful LP > that you were gonna put out a couple of years ago? Mr Harvey - the Varese Vintage post has Cary Mansfield's email address in it. Maybe you could write to him and ask this question. Also, since I recommended you to the group please keep your posts clean. :>)) By the way I liked your story about Gene Clark but it's still not as good as your Little Richard story/confrontation. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:09:11 -0500 From: James F. Cassidy Subject: Compared to What? Bob Rashkow mentioned: >...& a really cool tune called Compared to What? can't > remember artists' name. I assume it's the song written by Gene McDaniels and recorded by quite a few artists, most notably Les McCann/Eddie Harris on "Swiss Movement" (Live at the Montreux Jazz Festival). -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 10:02:14 -0800 (PST) From: Allen Roberds Subject: Re: The Parade Paul Richards wrote: > I'd love to hear the album, hope it gets a UK re-issue soon, > Welcome Allen xxxx Thanks Paul, Allen (Smokey Roberds) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:19:01 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Rascals Steve Harvey wrote: > You're right, "Good Lovin'" was the first that Felix > sang and the first big hit for the Rascals. .....so then, who sang lead on "I Ain't Gonna Eat My Heart Out Anymore"? Eddie Brigati? Your Friend, Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:20:22 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: I'll Be True To You (Yes I Will) Billy G Spradlin: > I believe some USA act recorded it first - not sure. The Wellingtons on Courtney Records 1963 Your Friend, Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:34:39 -0000 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Party Pics/Mark Wirtz Hi Mark, Yep, for a bunch of 65 year olds, I must agree we look in great shape! Now my memory is fading but I think the reference to Kingsley (a nicer man you couldn't wish to meet) was not so much to do with his Father Christmas beard - he grows this every year for giving out presents at the local orphanage - but something to do with his shoes. The pictures look great, not sure if I'm keen on digital cameras though. My main concern is the picture of me, modeling a Spectropop t-shirt with the lovely Keiko (who kindly gave the gift). Now does that make me look like a letch, a drunk or a drunken letch! Answers on a postcard to Spectropop! While talking of parties, hasn't she done well! The delightful chanteuse Elisabeth has put up a great page on what promises to be a fabulous night's entertainment. Sadly I won't be able to make it but I think she's marvellous to have taken the time to organize it. I'm sure everyone who attends will have a great time. Martin PS I know it's on this vast(and growing vaster by the day) site but I still haven't got round to ordering my Mark Wirtz CDs. It deserves another plug anyhow. Could you post the info again please Mark? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:02:57 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Pastel Vespa Kingsley Abbott wrote: > Mr Botticelli asked if anyone had Pastel Vespa - well I do, > and I love it to pieces! Been playing it quite a bit - > mainly to try and find out just how she has managed to turn > things like "Teenage Dirtbag" and "The Boys are Back In Town" > into Claudine Longet soundalikes!! I kid you not! But then > that very strange Bob Downe (Aussie comedian) is involved > so the whole thing must be a wind-up anyway... but a rather > nice one. Viva L'Anarchie! Are these original vocals superimposed on original originals, or are they new versions?? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:11:29 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Bob Crewe Generation Stefan Wriedt wrote: > I just bought a white label copy of a Bob Crewe Generation > album. While I tried to check for its release no., I found > two entries on http://www.bsnpubs.com without track details > - can anybody help ??? Bob Crewe Generation - Dynovoice 1902 > - Music To Watch BIRDS By (1967) This is the one I prefer over the "Music To Watch Girls By". Apparently written after a concert tour of England to promote "Girls..." LP. Tracks: Winter Warm Melancholy Serenade I Will Wait For You Chelsea Girls Brother Dan Song From Moulin Rouge Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow Birds of Britain Streetcar Clementine Boo-Ga-Loo Hope this he'ps -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 21:17:32 +0000 From: Ken Charmer Subject: Latest Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons Fanzine Hi Everyone, We've just uploaded the latest fanzine to our web-site: http://www.btinternet.com/~seasonally/ 16 pages of Seasons related newspaper clips and articles downloadable as pdf files. Hope you enjoy them. Chameleon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 23:13:06 -0000 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Re: Party Pics/Mark Wirtz Martin Roberts wrote: > PS I know it's on this vast (and growing vaster by the day) site > but I still haven't got round to ordering my Mark Wirtz CDs. > It deserves another plug anyhow. Could you post the info again > please Mark? Martin - any chance for a plug... I'll take it. All the info needed is at the web site below. If you can't get to the web let me know and I'll email details directly. Still plenty of sets available. Here is a direct link to the CDRs: http://markwirtz0.tripod.com/mw/id2.html I received interesting news that this little CDR effort may have prompted an official reissue of Philwit & Pegasus (and possibly more Mark Wirtz!). It will be interesting to see if the master tapes of Philwit outdo Phil Chapman's excellent remastering of the vinyl LP on the CDR? It will be tough. About the web site: Mark W. has become a regular web master and in my view has really warmed the site up... I'm sure he'd like everyone to visit and post a comment in the guest book. PS No need to brag about being in shape (or at least the ability to hide the lack of it) ;>) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:36:32 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Rascals Eddie sang "I Ain't Gonna Eat My Heart Out Anymore", but I'd hardly call it a hit, at least by "good Lovin'" proportions. "Good Lovin'" put them on the map and Felix took over, for the most part, after that. Nothing on Eddie, I've always liked his singing. Your buddy, Stevie -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 00:46:03 -0000 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: RE: I'll Be True To You (Yes I Will) Billy G Spradlin: > I believe some USA act recorded it first - not sure. Mikey: > The Wellingtons on Courtney Records 1963 Well it just goes to show, I always presumed that Goffin/Titelman gave the song straight to The Hollies. Also there seem to be many titles to this song; as above plus "Yes I Will" & "(Yes) I Will", it appears differently in many publications. Does anyone have this original version ? it would be interesting to compare. Regards Ken On The West Coast -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 19:33:23 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: I'll Be True To You (Yes I Will) Billy: > I believe some USA act recorded it first - not sure. Mikey: > The Wellingtons on Courtney Records 1963 How I'd love to get my hands on that in CD or 45 form...anyone??????? (privately of course!) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 19:47:16 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Rascals Steve Harvey: > Eddie sang "I Ain't Gonna Eat My Heart Out Anymore", > but I'd hardly call it a hit, at least by "good > Lovin'" proportions. "Good Lovin'" put them on the map > and Felix took over, for the most part, after that. > Nothing on Eddie, I've always liked his singing. Good Lovin' falls into the 'overplayed' category at this address. Felix sings like a southern soul man with a few extra slabs of pasta thrown in, but Eddie was the softy, the sweet-soul influenced "how can i be sure", "aint gonna eat out my heart anymore" "baby let's wait" guy who REALLY defines Spectropoppy Rascapalia around here. Jimmy Botticelli/"Carry Me Back" to Rascapalia, I've been away too long -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 01:42:55 -0000 From: Rich G Subject: Re: Andrea Carroll Tony Waitekus: > I hope Varese can locate Andrea Carroll. It seem to me > there was an interview some time ago in Goldmine with her. > I'd also love to get Doo Lang on CD by her, but that track > may be too obscure for you. Not too obscure for me. Have that song in my mp3 60s collection. In fact have 8 of her songs. All 8 appeared on 45s.. By the way where is WHTS? If you a wanting some of her songs give me note back Rich G -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:01:00 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Missing the point. James Botticelli: > Good Lovin' falls into the 'overplayed' category at > this address. Yes, it's overplayed, but what does that have to do with my point about the leads going to Felix due to the "Lovin's" success? To each his own. For rhythm guitarists Good Lovin' and I Fought the Law are two shining moments in a lead-obsessed world. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 02:30:38 -0000 From: Billy G Spradlin Subject: Re: I'll Be True To You (Yes I Will) > I believe some USA act recorded it first - not sure. Mikey: > The Wellingtons on Courtney Records 1963 Never heard of The Wellingtons! Were they a girl group and if someone has an mp3 please play it. Billy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 03:13:11 -0000 From: Rich G. Subject: Re: I'll Be True To You (Yes I Will) Billy G Spradlin wrote: > I believe some USA act recorded it first - not sure. Mikey: > The Wellingtons on Courtney Records 1963 Another: > Never heard of The Wellingtons! Were they a girl group? Billy, Show that the Wellingtons released this song in 1965 on Ascot 2217. Possible re-release? The 1965 single was produced by Bill Medley (Righteous Brothers). Go to: http://freespace.virgin.net/p.richmond/medleyprods.htm for some more info and picture of the Wellingtons. Definately not female. Rich G -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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