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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 22 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. The Liquid Room 11/03/02
           From: David Ponak 
      2. Re: Shaggs
           From: Stewart Mason 
      3. Re: besides
           From: Will George 
      4. Re: Davy Jones speeded-up
           From: James Botticelli 
      5. Lonnie Donegan
           From: Richard Tearle 
      6. Re: The Liquid Room 11/03/02
           From: James Botticelli 
      7. Re: Dave's 5 Hermits
           From: Will George 
      8. Simone Jackson: US or UK?
           From: sheila 
      9. RE: The Drifter
           From: James Botticelli 
     10. Re: Mieko Hirota-"A Lonely Summer"
           From: James Botticelli 
     11. Re: Davy Jones
           From: Simon White 
     12. Lead not lead
           From: Phil Milstein 
     13. Parade
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
     14. Re: Marianne on Herman
           From: Will George 
     15. Re: Lonnie Donegan
           From: James Botticelli 
     16. Re: Simone Jackson: US or UK?
           From: Ian Chapman 
     17. Re: Brian Hyland/Del Shannon
           From: Ian Chapman 
     18. Re: Davy Jones
           From: Mikey 
     19. Re: Davy Jones
           From: Shawn Baldwin 
     20. Re: Alternate pop universe
           From: Mikey 
     21. Lead not lead - Deja Vu
           From: Steve Harvey 
     22. Lonnie Donegan and Phil Spector
           From: Mick Patrick 


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Message: 1
   Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 12:25:15 -0500
   From: David Ponak 
Subject: The Liquid Room 11/03/02

The Liquid Room, (usually) hosted by David Ponak (me), airs 
every Saturday night from Midnight to 3AM (PDT) on 90.7FM KPFK 
Los Angeles, as well as streaming at http://kpfk.org. 

The Liquid Room 11/03/2002

1.The Association/Come On In
Birthday (WB)

2.Death In Vegas/Hands Around My Throat
Scorpio Rising (BMG-UK)

3.The Free Design/Bubbles
Bubbles  (Siesta-Spain)

4.Run-D.M.C./Jam Master Jay
Run-D.M.C. (Profile)

5.The Aluminum Group/Pop
Happyness (Wishing Tree)

6.Thomas & Richard Frost/She's Got Love
Visualize (Rev-Ola-UK)

7.Saint Etienne/Finisterre
Finisterre (Mantra/Beggars Banquet)

8.James Last/Voodoo Lady Love
Voodoo Party (Polydor-Germany)

9.Volovan/Violines
Volovan (Lakeshore)

10.John Leyton/Johnn Remember Me
Joe Meek: The Alchemist Of Pop (Sanctuary-UK)

11.The The/Perfect (12" Remix)
45 RPM-The Singles Of The The (Sony)

12.Lemon Jelly/Nice Weather For Ducks
Lost Horizons (XL)

13.Simian/When I Go
We Are Your Friends (Astralwerks)

14.Jerry Goldsmith (feat. Steve Lawrence)/The Last Run
The Last Run (Soundtrack) (MGM)

15.Juana Molina/Mantra Del Bichio Feyo
Segundo (JM-Argentina)

16.Esquivel/Mini Skirt
Cabaret Manana (BMG)

17.The Wondermints/On The Run
Mind If We Make Love To You (Smile)

18.Paul McCartney/Another Day
Wingspan (Capitol)

19.Mel Torme/She's Leaving Home
A Time For Us (Capitol)

20.Royksopp/So Easy
Melody A.M. (Astralwerks)

21.The Polyphonic Spree/Hanging Around
The Beginning Stages Of... (Good Records)

22.Eternity's Children/Lifetime Day
Eternity's Children (Rev-Ola-UK)

23.Amon Tobin/Verbal
Out From Where (Ninja Tune)

24.J. Girls/The World Of Yellow
Good Night Tokyo (Readymade-Japan)

25.Warren Schatz/Pattern People
7" single (WB)

26.The Love Generation/Montage From 'How Sweet It Is'
Love And Sunshine: The Best Of (Sundazed)

27.The Flaming Lips/Can't Get You Out Of My Head
Yoshimi Wins-Radio Sessions (WB promo CD)

28.Sketch Show/Theme From A Summer Place
Audio Sponge (Daisy World-Japan)

29.Primal Scream/Some Velvet Morning
Evil Heat (Sony)

30.Peter Thomas/Oh, Oh, Oooh, Ei Ei Ei-Wo Immer Es Auch Sei
Peter Scores (Diggler-Germany)

31.Squarepusher/Do You Know Squarepusher
Do You Know Squarepusher (Warp)

32.The Beavers/She's A Rainbow
G.S. Pop Covers (Teichiku-Japan)

33.Cross Country/Choir Boy
Cross Country (Atco)

34.The Canterbury Music Festival/Mr. Snail
The Canterbury Music Festival (Air Mail Recordings-Japan)

35.The Tokens/For All That I Am
It's A Happening World (WB)

36.Brute Force/To Sit On A Sandwich
Confections Of Love (Columbia)

37.Gabin/Mille Et Une Nuit Des Desires
Gabin (Astralwerks)

38.The Stranglers/Midnight Summer Dream
Feline (Epic)

39.Johnny Williams w/the Pennypipers/Penelope
Penelope (Soundtrack) (MGM)

40.Jacques Tati/Play Time Rumba
Les Remixes De Mr. Untel (Nave-France)

41.Jack Jones/LA Break Down (And Love Me)
LA Break Down (RCA)

42.David Holmes/Paper Underwear
David Holmes Presents The Free Association (13 Amp-UK)

43.The Match/Mornin' I'll Be Movin' On
A Different Light (RCA)




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Message: 2 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 14:52:20 -0500 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: Shaggs Simon White says of the Shaggs: > Cheers Jim, I saw the site already. A friend, knowing my > liking for the "odd" sent me a CDR of the album and details > etc some time back. I wasn't convinced then and.... I'm not > now! I don't know why, but I feel something's wrong, it's > just a bit TOO awful. Then the Wiggin sisters must be better actresses than Meryl Streep, having stayed unfailingly in character well over 30 years! Stewart -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:42:43 EST From: Will George Subject: Re: besides The flip side of Dickie Goodman's novelty single "Engery Crisis 74" (I think that was the year), goes like this: "Mr President, the cris'" and the rest is silence. I doubt that one got any airplay. (It was supposed to be someone telling Nixon that the energy crisis was over, and Nixon turned off the tape machine. At least that's what I remember - I was just a little tyke at the time and thought the A-side was funny.) -Bill PS. Sorry if this thread is played out already. I'm playing Country Paul's game of ketchup. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:09:37 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Davy Jones speeded-up Billy G Spradlin wrote: > Davy got some fine songs like "Daydream Believer" and > "Look Out Here Comes Tommorrow" I've always loved "I'll Be True To You (Yes I Will)". The Hollies did a nice job on the same one and probably went first, no? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 20:04:10 -0000 From: Richard Tearle Subject: Lonnie Donegan British singer and virtual inventor of Skiffle passed away today aged 71. He was in the middle of a tour and died in Peterborough, England with his wife and family at his bedside... Perhaps some of our transatlantic friends may not know the name, or very little of him, but Lonnie was a huge influence on British music; ironically perhaps for it was his repertoire of American songs by, mainly, Woodie Guthrie and Leadbelly which led him to prominence. I won't go into to too much detail here: other members who remember Lonnie are surely more eloquent than I. I would just like to say that it is a sad day. Lonnie has been named by Eric Clapton as one of the great influences in his career: who am I to add more? Thanks Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:08:09 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: The Liquid Room 11/03/02 David Ponak wrote: > 43.The Match/Mornin' I'll Be Movin' On > A Different Light (RCA) THAT is my mixup and David's band, The Mello Cads, covered "The Drifter" -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:42:45 EST From: Will George Subject: Re: Dave's 5 Hermits Xavier wrote: > Hey now. I'll give you that the Dave Clark Five had very > few redeeming qualities, but I think it's unfair to paint > Herman's Hermits as total crap. I'll take the Dave Clark Five over Herman's Hermits any day of the week. In my opinion (for what that's worth) the Hermits were one of the worst bands ever. I can't understand how anyone could have listened to them. Maybe it was timing? -Bill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:46:39 -0500 From: sheila Subject: Simone Jackson: US or UK? Brit girl connoisseurs: I am in the midst of uploading my girl group 45 collection into my computer, and while I'm on the letter J, I thought I'd seek out the answer to my long lost question- I have 45 by Simone Jackson- "I Told You So"/ "Where Am I Going." Label is American Music Makers out of Philadelphia, PA. Both sides were arranged by Mr. David Whitaker. The record has Britain written all over it, and I'm thinking that it must be British "Pop Pop Pop-Pie" cover girl, Simone Jackson. But then again, the vocal style/ accents are pretty dissimilar. Hmmm......... So my question is- are there 2 Simone Jacksons, or is this Brit Girl Simone Jackson's obscure American release a la Samantha Jones' "I Deserve It" and The Orchids' "Oo-chang a lang"? Thanks, Sheila -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:06:02 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: RE: The Drifter Phil Chapman wrote: > James, I couldn't find any reference to The Match recording. > Do you have the label details, thanx? My error...Rather they covered "Morning, I'll Be Moving On" which I inadvertently mentally connected to "The Drifter". But its not MY fault. Blame David Ponak~ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:13:59 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Mieko Hirota-"A Lonely Summer" David Ponak wrote: > cultural mash-ups Speaking of which, has anyone heard Siesta's Pastel Vespa? Supposedly taking hard-core stompers and ravers and setting them to easy listening and soft pop arrangements. I don't know if they/he take original and do it with a pro-tools type of software, or just do new versions. I would naturally prefer the former as I really dug "2 Many DJ's" -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 20:20:16 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Davy Jones Antonio Vizcarra wrote: > This was a black singer who released several singles in the > early sixties. He even played with the Beatles in the Cavern. > I think that a picture of him and the Beatles appears in the > book "Best of Cellars". Thanks Antonio, found a picture and now I'm hooked! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:05:56 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Lead not lead Billy G Spradlin wrote: > Along with the Turtles' Howard Kaylan, and The Raiders' > Mark Lindsey, Mickey was one the most underrated and best > lead singers or any USA Band of the 60's. Ditto on that. Which leads me to propose one more list, if our hearts can stand it: Lead singers Who Didn't Sing Lead. Meaning, certain bands had a member who didn't play an instrument (other than tambourine or maracas), and who were thus positioned as the lead singer, but who sang lead on far less of the band's hits than a true lead singer would've. Other examples, besides Jones/Monkees, include Mike Love/Beach Boys and Eddie Brigati/Rascals. I know there are others. To be fair, I'm sure these cats brought something to the mix that caused their bands to keep them around. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 22:52:06 -0000 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: Parade Hey! How nice to have Allen Roberds dropping in! The lovely Parade have long been a firm favourite of mine from the first moment I heard "Sunshine Girl" which I got on its release way back when. '67 wasn't it? Could we hear a little of the story of the group?? I have the japanese A&M CD (D25Y3274), but, whilst the lyrics arein English, the biog of the group sadly isn't... Must have been fun while it lasted, so please tell.... Kingsley Abbott PS wasn't Stuart Margolin (he of Rockford Files) involved somewhere there? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:42:46 EST From: Will George Subject: Re: Marianne on Herman Marianne Faithfull in Vanity Fair: >...Jackie Nitzsche thought the DC5 and Herman's Hermits > were crap...I agree with him. On her latest album, Ms. Faithfull covers Herman and the gang's "I'm Into Something Good". So I guess she didn't feel they were TOTALLY full of crap... -Bill I'll still stick with the DC5 though -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 19:47:36 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Lonnie Donegan Richard Tearle wrote: > British singer and virtual inventor of Skiffle passed away today > aged 71. He was in the middle of a tour and died in Peterborough, > England with his wife and family at his bedside... > > Perhaps some of our transatlantic friends may not know the name, > or very little of him, but Lonnie was a huge influence on British > music; ironically perhaps for it was his repertoire of American > songs by, mainly, Woodie Guthrie and Leadbelly which led him to > prominence. I think it was 1959..."Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavour On The Bedpost Overnight" was a huge 'novelty' record on WORC-AM, 1310, Worcester, Massachusetts while I was at sleepaway summer camp in Leicester. One Friday night we all sang it 'round the ol' weekly bonfire. Little did I know that this was to be my intro to the British Invasion to come! Sayonara Lonnie. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 00:55:49 -0000 From: Ian Chapman Subject: Re: Simone Jackson: US or UK? Sheila wrote: > I have 45 by Simone Jackson- "I Told You So"/"Where Am I > Going." Label is American Music Makers out of Philadelphia, > PA. Both sides were arranged by Mr. David Whitaker. The > record has Britain written all over it, and I'm thinking that > it must be British "Pop Pop Pop-Pie" cover girl, Simone > Jackson. But then again, the vocal style/accents are pretty > dissimilar. Hmmm..... So my question is - are there 2 Simone > Jacksons, or is this Brit Girl Simone Jackson's obscure > American release a la Samantha Jones' "I Deserve It" and The > Orchids' "Oo-chang a lang"? Only one Simone, Sheila, and you're exactly right - it's another of those strange instances where a UK artist had a record issued in the States, but not in their homeland. (Add the Chantelles' "Out Of My Mind" to that list too). Someone must have had a lot of faith in that song "I Told You So" - it was recorded by at least two other UK artists, Tony Daines and Mark Peters, both in '64. Ian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 01:24:07 -0000 From: Ian Chapman Subject: Re: Brian Hyland/Del Shannon Ken Silverwood wrote: > So [Ian], I'm glad you enjoyed the show, shame Brian Hyland > didn't mention Del Shannon for the production on "Gypsy Woman" > - it would have been nice as it started Brian's second coming. Oh he did, I just forgot to mention it. Afterwards he told me what good buddies he and Del were, and that he (Brian) was at many of Del's sessions in the early days. He also expressed an interest in Spectropop and took a note of the web address - so you never know, he might turn up sometime. Also forgot to mention that Brian's son Bodi played drums for his set, and his wife Rosemari provided percussion and backing vocals. Ian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 02:20:24 -0000 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Davy Jones Simon White: > And speaking of another Davy Jones, can anyone tell me > anything about the one who did the version of "Jezebel" b/w > "Don't Come Crying To Me" on the Piccadilly label in 1962? Hmmmm, I wonder if THAT Davy Jones was David Bowie before he changed his name. He was David jones when he auditioned for producer Joe Meek in 1963 (and got kicked out of the studio). Then again, so did The Beatles, or so the story goes. Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 19:57:47 -0600 From: Shawn Baldwin Subject: Re: Davy Jones Antonio Vizcarra wrote: > This was a black singer who released several singles in the > early sixties. He even played with the Beatles in the Cavern. > I think that a picture of him and the Beatles appears in the > book "Best of Cellars". Bobby Talyor may be who your talking about. Shawn -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 02:20:24 -0000 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Alternate pop universe James Botticelli: >Speeded up? Or the sound of the 14-year old? Exactly. It wasn't speeded up, Davy is just singing in his 14 year old voice. Also, he was just to that "boy" voice in his stage shows so it must have been natural to him. Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 19:02:01 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Lead not lead - Deja Vu The story of the Brigatti brothers is interesting in that history repeats itself. David was in the Starlighters. He sang lead on their singles, but no hits were forthcoming. So they put Joey Dee on "Peppermint Twist" and suddenly a hit! From then on it's Joey Dee and the Starlighters. Next, Eddie is singing lead on the Young Rascals singles and once again no hits. They put on Felix and "Groovin" is a hit. Eddie is put on the backburner as far as lead vocals on the singles. One wonders if the Brigatti brothers had a chance to sing these tunes if they'd remained upfront. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 03:40:33 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Lonnie Donegan and Phil Spector Lonnie Donegan, who died yesterday, had a more profound influence on the world of "Spectropop" than many people might realise. Wildly popular in the mid to late '50s, Lonnie helped introduce an entire generation of Britons to traditional American songs. The Beatles, for example, grew out of the Quarrymen, a gang of schoolboy Donegan wannabes. On the other side of the Atlantic, Lonnie became one of the first Brits to "take coals to Newcastle" when, in 1956, his recording of Leadbelly's "Rock Island Line" became a top 10 hit on the national chart. Among those upon whom the record was influential was a young Phil Spector who began his career in the music biz with a winning performance of "Rock Island Line" on a talent show at Fairfax High School in Hollywood. The Donegan sound was very evident on the first song Spector's group the Teddy Bears ever recorded, "Don't You Worry My Little Pet". In March 1960, Lonnie Donegan flew to New York where he cut nine tracks with producers Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller at Atlantic Records, his US label. It seems likely that Spector worked on those sessions. Early in 1960, Spector had relocated to New York to work, amongst other things, as an "apprentice" to Leiber and Stoller at Atlantic. His first official production for the label was in July that year with West Coast singer Billy Storm. In February 1961 he supervised a session by the Top Notes, using Teddy Randazzo as arranger. Top archivist Alan Betrock interviewed Randazzo on the subject in 1989: "Randazzo, when asked whether he did any other sessions with Spector said, 'Yeah, I did "Corrine, Corrina" by Lonnie Donegan with him'". Lonnie Donegan's Leiber & Stoller Recordings New York March 1960 (US Atlantic/UK Pye): "Take This Hammer": Atlantic 2063 "Corrine, Corrina": Pye NEP 24127 "In All My Wildest Dreams": Pye 7N 15275 "Beyond The Sunset": Atlantic 2108/Pye 7N 15315 "Nobody Understands Me": Atlantic 2063/Pye NEP 24127 "Junco Partner": Atlantic 2081/Pye NEP 24127 "Lorelie": Atlantic 2081/Pye 15275 "I Wanna Go Home": Atlantic 2123/Pye 15267 "Sorry But I'm Gonna Have To Pass": Atlantic 2123/Pye NEP 24127 (Pye NEP 24127 was a 4-track 7-inch EP entitled "Yankee Doodle Donegan") Much, if not all, of Lonnie's '50s and '60s material is available on CD. Those with an investigative mind will have little trouble in acquiring some of the possible Spector-produced tracks. His version of Leiber & Stoller's "Sorry But I'm Gonna Have To Pass", better known in an earlier rendition by the Coasters, is particularly good, with not a hint of skiffle. Interestingly, my favourite Lonnie Donegan recording is his version of the Teddy Randazzo/Little Anthony/Timi Yuro classic "Get Out Of My Life", released on UK Pye in 1965. He sand it beautifully with some wonderful falsetto. Regrettably, it is a disc I do not own. LONNIE DONEGAN R.I.P. Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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