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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Monkees / The Parade
           From: Allen Roberds 
      2. Conrad "Guybo" Smith
           From: Steve Harvey 
      3. Re: Alternate pop universe
           From: James Botticelli 
      4. Re: Come Away Melinda
           From: Eddy Smit 
      5. Re: Davy Jones
           From: 
      6. Re:  All American Show
           From: James Botticelli 
      7. Re: Velvet Underground . . . No, not that one!
           From: Lindsay Martin 
      8. having a gecko
           From: Lindsay 
      9. Re: Jack Nitzsche At Spectropop
           From: Paul Underwood 
     10. Re: Davy Jones
           From: Simon White 
     11. Re:  Velvet Underground . . . No, not that one!
           From: Norman 
     12. RE: All American Show
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     13. RE: Davy Jones speeded-up
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     14. RE: The Drifter
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     15. 100% Authentic Shaggs
           From: James F.  Cassidy 
     16. RE: The Drifter
           From: Phil Chapman 
     17. RE: The Drifter
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     18. Re: Davy Jones speeded-up
           From: Billy G Spradlin 
     19. Re: Re: Alternate pop universe
           From: 
     20. Mieko Hirota-"A Lonely Summer"
           From: David Ponak 
     21. Re: The Drifter
           From: Simon White 
     22. Re: Davy Jones
           From: Antonio Vizcarra 
     23. Re: Re: Davy Jones
           From: 
     24. Re: 100% Authentic Shaggs
           From: Simon White 
     25. Warren Cosford - Question
           From: Tony Baylis 


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Message: 1
   Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 19:26:37 -0800 (PST)
   From: Allen Roberds 
Subject: Re: Monkees / The Parade

Antonio:
> Hi Allen, Nice to have you here, I hope you can share some Monkee 
> memories with the rest of the group :-)

Hello Antonio, 
That was as close as I ever got to the Monkees.  Sorry. Later, 
Murray and I along with Jerry Riopelle became The Parade. 
"Sunshine Girl", "She Sleeps Alone", "Frog Frince" etc.  

Smokey



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Message: 2 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 19:37:43 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Conrad "Guybo" Smith Does anybody know what became of Eddie Cochran's bassist, Guybo Smith? Is he still alive and can he be contacted anywhere? Thanks. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 20:20:49 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Alternate pop universe Antonio Vizcarra wrote: > I have always loved "This Bouquet", a pretty nice song. > Although I think Davy Jones' voice on that recording was > artificially speeded. I was going to reply earlier about how I found the Davy Jones LP at a thrifty run by squeaky yet spirited little old ladies in Boston. The LP, of which I'd never heard, was not in its jacket :-( Instead it was stuffed into an old 12" generic white cover :-((( but after hearing "This Bouquet" I realized I'd found a gem. So to the fella that claimed authorship, Brav-Freakin'-O~! I love the tune..Pop bliss at its finesse. Speeded up? Or the sound of the 14-year old? JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 07:13:09 +0100 From: Eddy Smit Subject: Re: Come Away Melinda Previously: > So who did the original version of "Come away Melinda"? I've > got a version by Barry StJohn & is there one by Tom Rush? As far as I can tell, the original on that was done by Harry Belafonte, on his album Streets I have walked (1963). I know of cover versions by Judy Collins (1964) and Tim Rose (1967), but not Tom Rush. Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 09:05:32 +0000 From: Subject: Re: Davy Jones Lynn wrote: > Speaking of Davy Jones before he was a Monkee, I have a copy > of "Dream Girl"/"Take Me To Paradise". Were these done at > the same time as "What Are We Going to Do?"? And speaking of another Davy Jones, can anyone tell me anything about the one who did the version of "Jezebel" b/w "Dont Come Crying To Me" on the Piccadilly label in 1962? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 20:22:21 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: All American Show Ian Chapman wrote: > Backing each of > the artists are the Vees, a tight four-piece which includes > Bobby's two sons Jeff (drums) and Tommy (bass), nephew Matt > (guitar), plus Jeff Olson on keyboards. Proving once again that the fruit never falls too far from the tree -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:13:14 +0800 From: Lindsay Martin Subject: Re: Velvet Underground . . . No, not that one! Javed Jafri wrote: > Wasn't The Aussi VU an early incarnation of ACDC ? According to Chris Spencer's "Who's Who Of Australian Rock", the Aussie Velvet Undergound was a "pop rock band" working in Newcastle (NewSouth Wales) and Sydney, 1969-1972. Malcolm Young, later of AC/DC, was a member from '71. They also had a vocalist called Brian Johnson. I'm no AC/DC aficionado, but from his bios I've found on the Net this doesn't seem to be AC/DC's Brian Johnson. He was from Newcastle, true, but Newcastle in England, not NSW! See also the entry on the Aussie V.U. at http://www.borderlinebooks.com/australia/v1.html Lindsay in Oz -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:07:24 -0000 From: Lindsay Subject: having a gecko Phil Milstein wrote > is "having a gecko" a good thing or bad? It probably does sound to an outsider as if it could be a little unsavoury. But I took it to be some regional variant of "having a dekko" or "having a geek", both of which are ancient Aussie expressions for "taking a look". (Do I get this month's prize for being way, way off topic?) Lindsay -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:20:25 +0100 From: Paul Underwood Subject: Re: Jack Nitzsche At Spectropop Martin Roberts wrote: > ...P.J. Proby is featured on Record Of The Week with an > obscure UK B side, "Sweet Summer Wine". A good choice: I had thought of suggesting it myself but assumed (wrongly) that it was too good to have missed out on being reissued on CD. The two sides of that single show how good Proby could be with a good producer. Who is George Dempsey, though? One more thing: am I the only one who can't download anything listenable from the Nitzsche "record of the week"? Regards, Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 12:42:29 -0000 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Davy Jones Lynn wrote: > Speaking of Davy Jones before he was a Monkee, I have a copy > of "Dream Girl"/"Take Me To Paradise". Were these done at > the same time as "What Are We Going to Do?"? And speaking of another Davy Jones, can anyone tell me anything about the one who did the version of "Jezebel" b/w "Don't Come Crying To Me" on the Piccadilly label in 1962? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 00:23:24 +1030 From: Norman Subject: Re: Velvet Underground . . . No, not that one! Phil M: > When did the Aus. group start? And, is "having a gecko" > a good thing or bad? "Pardon me for lapsing into the vernacular..."."having a gecko" basically means having a look. I refer to sources to date the group. Apparently, they lasted from 1967 to 1972. As we are aware, a lot of what is written about obscure 60's groups in modern anthologies is taken from more than secondary resources. And, we have to take it with a pinch of salt. Much of what is past down by word of mouth can get a little blurred in the translation. Chris Spencer et.al., compiled what is regarded as the ultimate tool on Australian Rock in their Who's Who of Australian Rock (I believe it has just gone into its fifth edition since being first published in 1987). Although the compilers are made up of a top team of researchers the material offered to them by contributors can only be taken on its merit. It is a good thing that this publication exists listing known groups from the 50's through to more recent times. However, because a group gets a mention in the book doesn't necessary mean, in my view, that they were trailblazers or even any good. I imagine if I was to be asked in 1967, as I am walking down the main street of Newcastle, Australia, who the Velvet Underground were, I would have said "they're that mob from America". Norman -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 14:14:54 -0000 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: RE: All American Show I thought about catching this show in Blackpool (my hometown) last week, after seeing the posters in the theatre where we had gone to see "Return of The Return To The Lost Planet". But, and I don't mean to sound impolite, the printed pictures were straight out of New Musical Express c1962. Now I know they aren't going to look like that in the flesh, unless they are all on a secret elixir, but the thought goes "hmmm who are they trying to kid, what will they sound like?" And I know they all still have to make a living, I don't think any of them are rich beyond their wildest dreams, bbuuttt I treasure the 45s these artistes made, they were my youth (I was 15 in 1962). Not too long ago we had another package tour here, Solid Silver Sixties Tour, I think, with Gerry Marsden & some Pacemakers, Mike Penders' Searchers, Dave Berry, Dave Dee (minus the rest) & Brian Poole (solo). Again, we had the 1964 pictures, which I find off-putting. A couple of years ago I went to see the Everly Bros. here, at least the photos used were from the 1984 reunion, my God they were good. So [Ian], I'm glad you enjoyed the show, shame Brian Hyland didn't mention Del Shannon for the production on "Gypsy Woman" - it would have been nice as it started Brian's second coming. I recall a story back in 1975 when "Sealed With A Kiss" was re-released and became a hit again: the trouble they had locating Brian, he was living in a hippy commune, or the like, and needed a bit of a wash & brush up. Must mention an essential read, 2STONED by Andrew Loog Oldham, I enjoyed the first volume, but this is better. My sides ache through laughing, we didn't know the half of what went on. Back to the song "Come Away Melinda"...those were some scary lyrics "it won't be how the way it was the day before the war" wwhhhoooooo, well it spooked me. Looking forward to plenty comebacks Ken On The West Coast. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 14:41:20 -0000 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: RE: Davy Jones speeded-up Antonio wrote: > I have always loved "This Bouquet", a pretty nice song. > Although I think Davy Jones' voice on that recording > was artificially speeded. Was he moonlighting from Russ Bagdasarian's brood? Who was the lead singer in The Monkees? Dolenz alway's got the best stuff; eg. Goin' Down, Pleasant Valley Sunday, Words; Nesmith next, Listen To the Band, What Am I Doin' Hangin' 'Round, etc; then Jones hhmm "Shades Of Grey" anyone? Don't know about Tork. Ken On The West Coast, the muse is on me! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 14:41:17 -0000 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: RE: The Drifter James Botticelli > Clarification? Is this "The Drifter" as recorded by my > heroes The Match? Or as recorded by Ray Pollard on United Artists UP 1111 for UK market, very staple in Northern Soul circles? Regards Ken On The West Coast -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 09:53:45 -0500 From: James F. Cassidy Subject: 100% Authentic Shaggs Simon White opined: > ....in my opinion The Shaggs stuff is utter, utter rubbish > AND evil and I have always doubted its authenticity. Is it > really genuine? And are they not men in wigs on the cover? The Shaggs are for real. Follow this link for an article from The New Yorker: http://www.shaggs.com/meet_the_shaggs.html As you'll read, the Wiggins were - and are - real people. Jim Cassidy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:41:22 -0000 From: Phil Chapman Subject: RE: The Drifter James Botticelli: > Clarification? Is this "The Drifter" as recorded by my > heroes The Match? Ken Silverwood: > Or as recorded by Ray Pollard on United Artists UP 1111 > for UK market, very staple in Northern Soul circles? Are either of these the Feldman-Goldstein-Gottehrer song, as recorded by Long John Baldry in 1966? James, I couldn't find any reference to The Match recording. Do you have the label details, thanx? Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:04:54 -0000 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: RE: The Drifter Yes Phil, mine is, don't know about The Match. Ken. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:33:17 -0000 From: Billy G Spradlin Subject: Re: Davy Jones speeded-up > Who was > the lead singer in The Monkees? Davy got some fine songs like "Daydream Believer" and "Look Out Here Comes Tommorrow" but to have him sing "I'm Not Your Steppin' Stone" wouldn't have worked. I think whoever picked the songs for the Monkees (Kirshner, Producers or the band) gave 'em to the right singer. Along with the Turtles' Howard Kaylan, and The Raiders' Mark Lindsey, Mickey was one the most underrated and best lead singers or any USA Band of the 60's. Billy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:47:12 -0500 From: Subject: Re: Re: Alternate pop universe > > From: James Botticelli > Date: 2002/11/03 Sun PM 08:20:49 EST > To: > Subject: Spectropop - Re: Alternate pop universe > Speeded up? Or the sound of the 14-year old? >>>>>Exactly. It wasnt speeded up, Davy is just singing in his 14 year old voice. Also, he was just to that "boy" voice in his stage shows so it must have been natural to him. Mikey Your Friend, Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:12:23 -0500 From: David Ponak Subject: Mieko Hirota-"A Lonely Summer" Please allow me to second Sheila's emotion on "A Lonely Summer" by Mieko Hirota. (First encountered on the Nippon Columbia Cutie Pop collection, and then thankfully revived by Yasuharu Konishi on "Good Night Tokyo"). This track is a gem! The intro is a blatant rip of "Cool Jerk," and then the verses are totally "It's Not Unusual." This is a good thing, and I this kind of pastiche provided the prototype for the cultural mash-ups of later Japanese acts such as Pizzicato Five. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:34:49 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Re: The Drifter Phil Chapman wrote: > Are either of these the Feldman-Goldstein-Gottehrer song, > [The Drifter] as recorded by Long John Baldry in 1966? This is the same song although Long John's version is a pale, pale parody of Ray's soulful and somewhat dramatic masterpiece, genuinely one of my favourite recordings and one I have to be careful with - if heard while I'm in the wrong mood, I then have to lie down for a while. Long John's version is on a Goldmine CD, "The Best Of British Soul" or somesuch. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:31:25 -0000 From: Antonio Vizcarra Subject: Re: Davy Jones This was a black singer who released several singles in the early sixties. He even played with the Beatles in the Cavern. I think that a picture of him and the Beatles appears in the book "Best of Cellars". Simon White wrote: > And speaking of another Davy Jones, can anyone tell me > anything about the one who did the version of "Jezebel" b/w > "Don't Come Crying To Me" on the Piccadilly label in 1962? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:49:37 -0500 From: Subject: Re: Re: Davy Jones > > From: > Date: 2002/11/04 Mon AM 04:05:32 EST > To: > Subject: Spectropop - Re: Davy Jones > And speaking of another Davy Jones, can anyone tell me > anything about the one who did the version of "Jezebel" b/w> "Dont Come Crying To Me" on the Piccadilly label in 1962? <<<< End

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