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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Down-downs
           From: "zombie7123" 
      2. Re: Josie and the Stereo Pussycats
           From: Charles G. Hill 
      3. Re: "Girl Groups" Is Not "War and Peace"
           From: Mike Rashkow 
      4. Re: Patrice Holloway
           From: James Botticelli 
      5. Re: No, no, no, no
           From: Nick Archer 
      6. Re: American Dream
           From: Doc Rock 
      7. Re: Down-downs
           From: Eric Charge 
      8. Re: No...down...BOOM!
           From: Elisabeth 
      9. Re: ROCKY FELLERS / CAROLE KING / ORCHIDS
           From: Mick Patrick 
     10. Re: No, No etc
           From: John Love 
     11. Re: No more
           From: Billy G Spradlin 
     12. Re: "Girl Groups" Is Not "War and Peace"
           From: Ian Slater 
     13. smile a little smile for me
           From: John 


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Message: 1
   Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 23:08:45 -0000
   From: "zombie7123" 
Subject: Re: Down-downs

Ian Chapman said:
> Yeah, but the BEST "downs" ever still belong to the 
> Shangri-Las on "Leader of the Pack" - even if there are 
> only two of 'em!  

Actually, I've just remembered an obvious contender: Johnny 
Rivers' "Hole In the Ground":  it's nice and slow paced, so 
it's easy to count all the "downs": 56. This would qualify as 
the winner were it not for the 10 "downs" in the last couple 
seconds of "I'm Down," which push it up from 50 to 60.




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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 18:35:49 -0500 From: Charles G. Hill Subject: Re: Josie and the Stereo Pussycats Josie & the Pussycats' "Every Beat of My Heart" shows up in stereo on a Varese Vintage collection ("25 All-Time Greatest Bubblegum Hits", 302 066 132-2). You probably have the other 24 tracks already - well, maybe not the Banana Splits cut - but when has that ever stopped any of us?....cgh -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 19:35:56 EDT From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: "Girl Groups" Is Not "War and Peace" You tell 'em John, I stutter. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 19:46:50 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Patrice Holloway Ian Chapman: > Did this girl ever make a bad record? I've heard she Patrice was Brenda Holloway's sister, although I suppose that is patently obvious to this group. The first I heard of her was (again) through a UK Kent Soul compilation in the mid 8T's. On the same compilation was the original Do-Wah Ditty by the Exciters, again, news to me in 1984. "I'm A Boy-Watcher" by Ginger Thompson also appeared on the compilation and I'd only known then of the Okaysions version called "I'm A Girl Watcher". Which leads me to two questions: 1. Was there ever a Patrice Holloway LP? 2. How is it that the Brits seem to find and compile all this great U.S.-created stuff and over here where the records are made, we Yanks never hear it or even see it, even though its "ours"? We have to wait for you guys to give it back to us, just like we did with the Beatles and the Rolling Stones. Don't get me wrong, I tip my hat to the Brits for finding it, but it seems so wrong to discover good American music through the discoveries of our former colonizers! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:25:31 -0500 From: Nick Archer Subject: Re: No, no, no, no I think someone once counted 217 no's in Nobody But Me by the Human Beinz. Nick Archer Check out Nashville's classic SM95 on the web at http://www.live365.com/stations/289419 -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 23:13:37 -0400 From: Doc Rock Subject: Re: American Dream I am very happy with American Dream. Who cares if the songs aren't correct to the month or year? As they say on MST3K, relax, it's just a show. When I listen to Glenn Miller, it doesn't matter one whit if the tune is from 1941 or 1942, even though one is pre-war, the other not. And I know that the producers have more important factors to consider, such as which tunes they can get the rights to, and were the songs big hits or not. 99% of the acts on Bandstand in the B&W days were not saved on film or tape. That's why the show was on for so many hours each day; stations in each time zone carried maybe just an hour, but got the show live. All my life, I've had to watch TV shows with MOR sound tracks, or band soundtracks, or pop sound tracks, disco soundtracks, or fake R&R sound tracks. Now, for the first time, I get to hear MY music as the soundtrack! I simply love it. I sure ain't gonna look this gift horse in the mouth! As for the plots, they are a refreshing break from the cop / doctor / sexy / "reality" / insipid sit coms / violence / etc. which are all over the TV. And it is way better than Happy Days ever thought of being. I truly enjoy American Dream. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 04:44:29 +0100 From: Eric Charge Subject: Re: Down-downs Aren't there plenty of downs on the Jelly Beans' "I Wanna Love Him So Bad"? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 07:20:37 -0000 From: Elisabeth Subject: Re: No...down...BOOM! Since we're on this topic...what about "Boom"? The obvious cool winner for quality over quantity (again) is the Shangs with "Sophisticated Boom Boom", but are there any others? I haven't had my latte yet so I can't think of any! Elisabeth x -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:57:37 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: ROCKY FELLERS / CAROLE KING / ORCHIDS Mike C: > ... That box doesn't have "Where The Girls Are Vol. 5" in it > and I'm having such a devil of a time not being able to do "The > Harlem Tango" with a tid bit about who THOSE girls were. When, > Mick, when? Hi, Relax, Mike, and all you other C.K. heads, Ace Records have announced January 2003 as the release date for "Where The Girls Are, Vol 5". This volume is going to be a bit of a Brill Build fest, with songs written by Greenwich & Barry, Mann & Weil, Anders & Poncia, Berns & Medley, Van McCoy, Greenfield & Miller, Shadow Morton, Neil Diamond, Phil Spector and many others. "The Harlem Tango" will be one of four Goffin & King compositions featured. The booklet will be crammed with pictures including one of the Orchids. By the way, I just took one more listen to the Rocky Fellers' version of "School Bells Are Ringing" from their CD and I am now of the opinion that the lead vocalist IS Carole King and NOT one of that Filipino boy band. (Cries of "Make your blimmin' mind up" from the rear!) But, hey, at least now we know why Carole performed the song in that accent. Like all good demo singers, she was imitating the act to which the song was pitched. MICK PATRICK PS: > Status Quo did do a song called "Down Down" which contains > a quite unwarranted number of "downs" in it. So, those Quo boys did a cover version of the Ikettes' Phi-Dan 45????? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 02:56:42 -0500 From: John Love Subject: Re: No, No etc ...then there was Scott McKenzie's "No, No No, No No" [or was that "No! No! No!, No! No!"?] Is his "Holy Man" available anywhere? The song I really want to get my hands on is "Call Off The Wedding" by Babs Tino. Has this ever turned up anywhere? Web searches never come up with anything. Cheers John -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:00:03 -0000 From: Billy G Spradlin Subject: Re: No more Has anyone checked Jackie DeShannon's version on EMI-USA's "What the worlds Needs Now is..." compilation? Another couple to check: The Zombies - "Tell Her No" The Jewels doo-wop classic "Hearts Of Stone" Billy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:12:29 +0100 From: Ian Slater Subject: Re: "Girl Groups" Is Not "War and Peace" John Clemente wrote: > This is for my critic in Oakland, CA who rated my book at Amazon.com. He > seems to be out of focus on why "Girl Groups" exists. Please let me state > that I don't care if you like my writing or not. I'm not a writer by > trade.... I can't say how appalled I am to see that someone like John, having written an absolute masterpiece, finds he has to defend himself from those whose main pleasure seems to be try to find "faults" in other people's work - usually on the thinly disguised grounds that they think they have better taste, can write better English, have found one or two piffling errors or omissions, or that they'd rather get the product without paying for it. Maybe (just maybe) they have a point. So why don't they get off their ****s and compile this comprehensive, perfectly accurate, immaculately presented book, TV series, CD, whatever, THEMSELVES? Those of us who love 60s pop (or enjoy ANY hobby) are greatly in the debt of people like John, and Mick Patrick, Malcolm Baumgart, Ian Chapman (yes I should list many others.......) who put enormous effort into what they do out of all proportion to any tangible reward. From my own recent and current attempts to research three acts, I've really little to show for a lot of time and frustration - so a work such as John's leaves me lost in admiration. And, yes, I know I shouldn't get too preachy because I've been rightly criticized in these pages for attacking some UK cover-versions I didn't like: but my messages is to be positive, and PLEASE John don't let a few thoughtless words discourage you. Ian Slater -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 06:05:14 EDT From: John Subject: smile a little smile for me Hi everybody I know that The Flying Machine was a studio project of the guy - his name escapes me right now - who produced all of Tony Macaulay's "bands" (Edison Lighthouse, White Plains, etc). On that Sounds of The Sixties infomercial with Davy Jones, they've been showing a video clip of "Smile A Little Smile For Me"...I was wondering - are any of the people feautured in this clip the actual session musicians, or just "actors"? Was there ever a version of this group that made promotional appearances? John from NJ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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