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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Christmas Songs
           From: Paul Urbahns 
      2. Re: Commercial freakout
           From: Dave Swanson 
      3. Re: Brand New Cadillac
           From: Dave Swanson 
      4. NEW BOOKS! SOUND WAVES AND TRACTION - VOLUMES 1 and 2
           From: Ron Weekes 
      5. Little Boy
           From: Jimmy Crescitelli 
      6. Re: American Dreams
           From: Jimmy Crescitelli 
      7. I wonder...about another Crystals chorus!
           From: Paul Woods 
      8. Re: Acker Bilk - Stranger On The Shore
           From: Peter Richmond 
      9. Re: Commercial Freakout - Nick Drake "Memories
           From: Lindsay Martin 
     10. Re: Dear One
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
     11. Re: Then He Kissed Me
           From: Phil Chapman 
     12. Re: Christmas Songs.....& ou est la Pussycat?
           From: Xavier 
     13. Re: New Books
           From: Martin Roberts 
     14. Re: Christmas Songs
           From: Paul Richards 
     15. Re: Commercial freakout
           From: Richard Tearle 
     16. Re: Christmas Songs
           From: Terry Rutledge 
     17. Re: Commercial freakout
           From: Phil Milstein 
     18. Re: Who Killed Teddy Bear
           From: Phil Milstein 
     19. Re: Vince Taylor
           From: Lindsay 
     20. Re: Commercial freakout
           From: Richard Tearle 
     21. Re: Christmas Songs
           From: Phil Milstein 
     22. Re: Vince Taylor
           From: Mikey 
     23. Re: Christmas Songs
           From: Tim 
     24. Re: Christmas Songs
           From: Tim 
     25. Re: Little Boy
           From: Robert 


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Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:57:29 EDT
   From: Paul Urbahns 
Subject: Re: Christmas Songs

One of my favorite Christmas songs is Pearl Bailey's "5 Pound Box Of Money".



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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:14:31 -0500 From: Dave Swanson Subject: Re: Commercial freakout Phil Milstein wrote: > But tonight I heard a song, in a car ad, that left me dumbfounded: The > Stooges' LA Blues, the insane, freeform freakout that closed their Funhouse > LP. Music this severe has rarely been heard on any television broadcast, in > any context. Is this for real? LA Blues?? I was going to joke about that and say I wonder when they would get around to something totally gone like that. But it's for real?? I think this may be one of the signs of the apocalypse if I'm not mistaken. God yes. I couldn't believe it when I saw the London Calling commercial. Who thought that would be a good song to sell a high $$ car? I know that "Should I Stay Or Should I Go" was used in a jeans commercial in the UK sometime in the late 80's, but this is just surreal. The Creedence song as well-I too always thought it incredible to use a song with such obvious other meaning and convieniently edit out all but the "patriotic" lines. Like those who took Springsteen's "Born In The USA" as being a ra-ra USA song. Another one that springs to mind was the first time I saw the Nike commercial that used The Stooges "Search And Destroy". The Stooges for Christ sake! The ultimate odd use of a song in a comercial never happened, at least not yet. It was the basis for a long running feud/law suit between Jello Biafra and the other members of he Dead Kennedys Some sompany, I can't remember the product, wanted to use the song "Holiday In Camboida" as the music in a commercial! Biafra flat out said no and, supposedly, when the other band members got wind of potential lost revenue from such a use, they got pissed off, turned on Biafra and sued him for back royalties and the rights to the entire DK catalogue. They won. Here is a band that built it's reputation on it words and politics and someone wanted to turn it into a sales tool for something or other and only Biafra had the guts and integrity to stand up for the spirit of the band. The other members of the band actually reformed this past year with former Courtship Of Eddie's Father star Brandon Cruz as their vocalist.The saddest part about all this may be that there's better tunes on the TV selling crap than on the radio. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:23:42 -0500 From: Dave Swanson Subject: Re: Brand New Cadillac Hans: > According to my information Vince Taylor and the Playboys > was the original (1958?) They even had a hit with it in > France. Yes indeed. The song was originally done by Vince Taylor and His Playboys. Vince was British and had kind of a hip status in English rock and roll and his band featured two guys who would later end up in The Shadows! He used to dress in all black leather and for the time was a pretty wild character. Golden Earring wrote a song called "Just Like Vince Taylor" in 1973 and The Clash covered "Brand New Cadillac" on the London Calling LP in '79. Vince died of VD in the late 80's or early 90's. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:00:04 -0600 From: Ron Weekes Subject: NEW BOOKS! SOUND WAVES AND TRACTION - VOLUMES 1 and 2 For all surf and hot rod music fans, here is some great information about the two latest books from Stephen J. McParland's CMusicBooks. I'll post a review of them once I've had a chance to look them over. Knowing the quality of Stephen's research, you won't be dissapointed. Ron Weekes http://www.garyusher.com NEW BOOKS from CMUSIC BOOKS hot-rod and surf music heaven!!!!! Here in two concise tomes you will find full stories on groups such as Richie Allen & The Pacific Surfers, The Tradewinds, The Rip Chords, The Surfettes, The Hondells, Bob & Bobby, The Survivors, The Gamblers, Bruce & Terry, The Kustom Kings, The Catalinas, The Sidewalk Surfers, The Hollywood Argyles, The Road Runners, The Eliminators, The Zip-codes, Buzz & Bucky, The Yellow Balloon, The Marketts, The T-Bones, The Sunshine Company, Bob & Sheri, The Vettes, The Silly Surfers, The Weird-Ohs, The Sudells, The Grads, The Buddies & The Compacts, The Arrows, Ronny & The Daytonas, The Hombres, etc., etc How they were conceived and all relevant product can be found in each respective volume. A bonanza of bitchin' info! SOUND WAVES AND TRACTION Surf And Hot-Rod Studio Groups Of The '60s VOLUME 1 By STEPHEN J McPARLAND This 250 page glossy covered book contains seven chapters, each devoted to particular individuals and the studio groups they were involved with. In this volume you will find complete/relevant biographies and discographies on RICHIE PODOLOR/RICHIE ALLEN, PETE ANDERS & VINI PONCIA, CAROL CONNORS, THE FROGMEN, THE HONDELLS, THE HONEYS and TERRY MELCHER & BRUCE JOHNSTON. Also included are six pages of glossy photos and an exhaustive index. PRICE PER BOOK $34 SOUND WAVES AND TRACTION Surf And Hot-Rod Studio Groups Of The '60s VOLUME 2 BY STEPHEN J McPARLAND This 250 page glossy covered book contains five chapters, each devoted to particular individuals and the studio groups they were involved with. In this volume you will find complete/relevant biographies and discographies on GARY PAXTON-BUZZ CASON-THE ELIGIBLES, JOE SARACENO, THE SURVIVORS, MIKE CURB-NICK VENET-DAVIE ALLAN and JOHN 'BUCK' WILKIN/RONNY DAYTON. Also included are eight pages of glossy photos and an exhaustive index. PRICE PER BOOK $34 SPECIAL PRICE IF ORDERING BOTH VOLUMES TOGETHER - $55 POSTAGE INFORMATION 1 book = $14 AIRMAIL (7-10 DAYS) or $11 ECONOMY AIRMAIL (1-3 WEEKS) 2 books together = $24 AIRMAIL or $19 ECONOMY AIRMAIL ALL prices noted are in AMERICAN ($US) dollars. Payment by US CASH in a registered letter preferred. If paying by personal check, please add an additional $US6 for bank fee. No money orders can be accepted. Send your payment to: CALIFORNIA MUSIC P.O. BOX 106, NORTH STRATHFIELD 2137, N.S.W., AUSTRALIA cmusic@hotkey.net.au http://www.garyusher.com/cmusic.html -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 00:03:18 EDT From: Jimmy Crescitelli Subject: Little Boy Robert in Australia, We were wondering about the backing chant [on "Little Boy"] some posts ago, before you joined. A girl I knew years ago swore they were singing "little one take my heart away," and others swear it's "doo ron day ron day." Take your pick! And you know... my original Philles 45s sound MUCH better than anything on CD... ==Jimmy== -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 00:11:30 EDT From: Jimmy Crescitelli Subject: Re: American Dreams Louise, Pragmatically speaking, as I was mainly... I figure, for the millions they sink into these shows, they could do a little research to prove they at least have some brains as well as bucks, you know? I'm a detail man, I guess... I grew up surrounded by big hair in Brooklyn in the early 60s... had lots of relatives from Philadelphia and New Jersey... and I guess, well, maybe I'm looking for authenticity. Guess I'd better rely on Dick Clark's vintage tapes! I enjoy your posts... very well thought out. Thanks! ==Jimmy== -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:06:42 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: Paul Woods Subject: I wonder...about another Crystals chorus! Keith replied correctly, about "I Wonder". Now, can anyone enlighten me as to what the other girls are chanting behind the verse lead in Little Boy? I was never able to work that one out... Paul Woods -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:30:31 +0100 From: Peter Richmond Subject: Re: Acker Bilk - Stranger On The Shore Doc wrote: > As I recall, this song originally had a different title, > a woman's name. Anyone recall that? "Stranger On The Shore" was composed by Acker Bilk but originally entitled "Jenny", after one of his children. I believe "Jenny" was issued in the US by Atlantic Records on an album "Sentimental Journey". In the UK the track was picked as the signature tune to a BBC children's TV series "Stranger On The Shore", subsequently the track was renamed and issued as a single to tie in with the series. Peter Richmond -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 18:01:33 +0800 From: Lindsay Martin Subject: Re: Commercial Freakout - Nick Drake "Memories Speaking of commercial use of music: I can't ever stop thinking about Nick Drake, whose wonderful songs & recordings earnt him meagre fame & fortune at the time ('69 - '72), but are now heard in such unlikely places as a car commercial (Volkswagen: "Pink Moon") and a romantic comedy soundtrack (Serendipity: "Northern Sky"). Gosh, I had never HEARD of this guy till I read stories about him in MOJO in the late '90s, and then a friend of mine in Spain urged me to listen to him. One of his songs, "River Man", was so good, so unbelievably moving, I actually rationed my listenings... (It's a sad, sad story I won't recount here, but the film of his life, "A Skin Too Few" is a good start. Or read MOJO's cover story if you can get hold of the back issue, February 1997. Heaps of info at http://www.algonet.se/~iguana/DRAKE/DRAKE.html Or - more to the point - get hold of his music.) I know, I just know, that had I heard Nick Drake in my late 'teens/early twenties I would've been blown away and may've listened to nothing else for, oh, ages. I'd always had a fondness for slightly wistful well-produced pop-folky stuff like Simon & Garfunkel, Donovan, Arlo Guthrie. But - certainly here in Australia - I swear almost nobody had ever heard of Nick Drake. Which leads me to the occasional debate about oldies & nostalgia & "memories". If we only stuck to what we listened to at the time, if we insisted on returning only to the songs that topped the charts... well then, we'd never have got around to listening to Nick Drake. Same goes for all the other Nick Drakes - of varying degrees of talent - whose work is still waiting to be heard. Have a good weekend when it reaches you, Lindsay in Oz -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:45:15 +0100 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: Re: Dear One My New Zealand copy (don't ask) of Larry Finnegan's "Dear One" has the writing credits as Finneran & Finneran. It also has "Old Town" as the source label thus marking out as East Coast. Nice rekid! Kingsley -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:44:28 -0000 From: Phil Chapman Subject: Re: Then He Kissed Me Billy Spradlin wrote: > Phil are you comparing the UK (London) or > USA (Philles) 45 to the CD? ["Then He Kissed Me"] Hi Billy, How sad is this: I grabbed a bunch of them - Philles, London American (UK), London (Germany), Collectables, Glow (bootleg?) and Warner-Spector (blue vinyl). They all run at the same pitch, the best sounding (IMO) being the London UK (clearer) and/or Philles (warmer), the worst being Warner-Spector (muffled). I have a true-stereo version (track-vocals-strings), which is fascinating for a closer look at the Jack Nitzsche arrangement. I'll play it to musica if you like? > (BTW I wish I could find a CD changer that had a pitch- > control knob) If you have a spare $400 you could try either of these: http://www.progressive-concepts.com/25.html http://www.freefolk.com/cdplayer.htm Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 08:22:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Xavier Subject: Re: Christmas Songs.....& ou est la Pussycat? I'd say that Clarence Carter's "Back Door Santa" is a great funky Xmas tune, good enough to be enjoyed any time of the year, really. (I'd be remiss not to mention the tune that sampled it, Run DMC's "Christmas in Hollis.") And to get even further off the scope of this list (I can't imagine that anything '60s-ish and Xmas-related has escaped the notice of most of you all), there's always Kurtis Blow's "Christmas Rappin'"... Anyway, nice to meet all of you, I've enjoyed what I'm reading so far, and still trying to catch up on through the archives. One request for help--does anyone know how to get a hold of a Pussycat compilation of any kind? I would *kill* to have "Le Temps Ont Change" on a format other than, ah, misplaced-and- possibly-gone-forever-cassette. Slipping (back) into darkness Xavier -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:13:54 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: New Books Thanks to Ron Weeks for posting the information about Stephen McParland's latest books. They both look essential purchases. For the uninitiated I'd go as far as to say that there is no other current writer supplying as much information on the subject he's writing about as SM. The quality AND quantity has been faultless. I notice the first Volume lists among the artists covered Carol Connors, who was subject of a recent query. Her recorded output was also discussed on Spectropop last year, when a few tracks were added to her existing discography. Now if Stephen is offering a complete discography, that is what we'll get! Some of the fun might be missing, no cries of glee when you pull out a 45 he's missed! I've bought quite a few of his books and his research is impeccable. These two volumes are as eagerly awaited as a Mick Patrick Girl Group compilation! My dollars are in the mail. Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:17:31 EDT From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Christmas Songs Hi, Some of my favourites are The Partridge Family Christmas album, 'Something Festive' A&M LP with some great tracks - Burt Bacharach's 'The Bell that wouldn't Jingle', Claudine Longet's 'Snow' among many others, The Free Design Christmas EP with the fantastic 'Close Your Mouth', also the Bee Gees penned 'All Our Christmases' by The Majority is pretty fantastic. PreSeasons Greetings, Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:05:52 -0000 From: Richard Tearle Subject: Re: Commercial freakout I suppose from an ad-mans point of view, the more the song hooks you, the more you'll remember (and buy) the product. We may have different ads in the UK: Levis (or Wranglers??) had a whole series with songs ranging from Summertime Blues to Mad About The Boy (Nina Simone). An Album was also released! Recently we had Janis Joplin 'Oh Lord won't you buy me a Merceds Benz' - tailor made, perhaps? Berlin's Take my breath away also sold cars. A new one here (and spectropo members might help me out) also selling cars has a very child-like (but not a child) female voice singing: I'm sticking with you/'cos I'm made out of glue/Anything you wanna do/I'm gonna do too/You held up a stagecoach in the rain/So I'm doin' the same (rpt ad lib/nauseum!) So: can anyone te;ll me if its an old song or something that's been especially weritten just for the ad? Cheers Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:26:08 -0400 From: Terry Rutledge Subject: Re: Christmas Songs Hello, Great suggestion with 'All Our Christmases' (did not know it was written by the Bee Gees). Here are some of my favorites: 'Christmas In Suburbia' by Martin Newell 'I Want An Alien For Christmas' 'The Man In The Santa Suit' both by Fountains Of Wayne 'Christmas Time Is Here Again' by The Beatles 'Santa's Coming In A Whirly-Bird' by Gene Autry Hope this helps. Cheers, Terry -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:28:02 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Commercial freakout Dave Swanson wrote: > Is this for real? LA Blues?? I was going to joke about that and say I wonder > when they would get around to something totally gone like that. But it's for > real?? I ain't lyin'. When it first came on (starting from the beginning of the song, with Iggy's deathly scream), I too thought my ears were deceiving me, but the music lasted long enough for me to pinch myself back to reality, and take a mental snapshot of what I heard. > I think this may be one of the signs of the apocalypse if I'm not mistaken. Which brings us back to "London Calling." > late 80's, but this is just surreal. The Creedence song as well- Another irony of this is that Fogerty's bandmates (slash/underlings) fought bitterly with him for years trying to get him to permit such usages. I don't know the legal/financial/personal ramifications of his consent in the Levi's/Fortunate Son case, but I wouldn't be surprised if they in some way were configured to leave Doug & Stu hanging out to dry on the line (like a pair of old jeans) again. > I too always thought it incredible to use a song with such obvious other > meaning and conveniently edit out all but the "patriotic" lines. Or be oblivious to in the first place. > springs to mind was the first time I saw the Nike commercial that used The > Stooges "Search And Destroy". The Stooges for Christ sake! Then there was The Monks' song -- I forget which -- used in a wine spritzer commercial a few years back. Like, what is this world coming to? Richard Tearle wrote: > might help me out) also selling cars has a very child-like (but not a > child) female voice singing: I'm sticking with you/'cos I'm made out > of glue/Anything you wanna do/I'm gonna do too/You held up a > stagecoach in the rain/So I'm doin' the same (rpt ad lib/nauseum!) > So: can anyone te;ll me if its an old song or something that's been > especially weritten just for the ad? That would be "I'm Sticking With You," drummer Moe Tucker moving downfront to take a spotlight turn with The Velvet Underground. If my memory isn't suffering one of its periodic breakdowns, the song (presuming the ad uses the original version) was recorded c.'69, but went unreleased until Polygram's late '80s vault-cleaning project. It had, though, been much-bootlegged prior to that. Similarly, the intro from Nico's "Little Sister" (or was it "Winter Song"? -- blasted memory ...) was used recently, looped three times so as to avoid the intrusion of her actual vocals, on an ad selling children's clothes for, I believe, the Target chain. The sad irony was that this intro uses only a strings part, which was, as with strings and winds throughout much of the rest of the album (Chelsea Girls, her solo debut) tacked on (by arranger Larry Fallon) after her original sessions, to her everlasting complaint. Thus, her one (so far!) excursion into the commercial realm not only doesn't include her, it uses only a part of her record that she herself detested. On the other hand, Nico was so willfully perverse that she may well have taken delight in all this. --Phil Milstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:16:56 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Who Killed Teddy Bear Who Killed Teddy Bear is now on musica, and scans of the two labels are in the Photos section. Both come courtesy John Grecco. Enjoy. --Phil Milstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 21:05:29 -0000 From: Lindsay Subject: Re: Vince Taylor Dave Swanson wrote: > Golden Earring wrote a song called "Just Like Vince Taylor" in 1973 And then there's Van Morrison's "Goin' Down Geneva" which is a kind of tribute to Vince Taylor: "...Vince Taylor used to live here, but nobody's heard of him, ain't that a shame? Just who he was, just where he fits in..." It's on Van's 1999 album "Back On Top". Lindsay in Oz -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 20:21:20 -0000 From: Richard Tearle Subject: Re: Commercial freakout Phil Milstein: > ...That would be "I'm Sticking With You," drummer Moe Tucker moving > downfront to take a spotlight turn with The Velvet Underground. Phil, My thanks! I would never have guessed Velvet Underground in 1,000,000 years! Especially as it was the drummer singing! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:06:46 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Christmas Songs Would it be mean to sneak "Johnny Baby Please Come Home" into a Christmas-song compilation? --Phil Milstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:23:38 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Vince Taylor >>>>>>>>>>>>Don't know if you guys have ever seen it, but Vince Taylor made TWO fantastic Scopitone videos, "Peppermint Twist" and another I can't recall right now. I have both and he was SOME performer. Your Friend, Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 22:15:24 -0000 From: Tim Subject: Re: Christmas Songs Paul Urbahns wrote: > One of my favorite Christmas songs is Pearl Bailey's > "5 Pound Box Of Money". That's a very good one, I used it last year though. Great suggestion and definitely on the right track. Thanks! Paul Richards wrote: > .....The Partridge Family Christmas album, 'Something > Festive' A&M LP with some great tracks - Burt Bacharach's > 'The Bell that wouldn't Jingle', Claudine Longet's 'Snow' > among many others, The Free Design Christmas EP with the > fantastic 'Close Your Mouth', also the Bee Gees penned > 'All Our Christmases' by The Majority is pretty fantastic. Thanks, these are all very good suggestions. - Tim -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 00:57:39 -0000 From: Tim Subject: Re: Christmas Songs Paul Richards wrote: > Some of my favourites .... The Free Design Christmas > EP with the fantastic 'Close Your Mouth'........ Any idea where I can get a copy of that Free Design song? Thanks, Tim -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 02:42:09 -0000 From: Robert Subject: Re: Little Boy Jimmy Crescitelli wrote: > We were wondering about the backing chant [on "Little Boy"] > some posts ago, before you joined. A girl I knew years ago > swore they were singing "little one take my heart away," and > others swear it's "doo ron day ron day." Take your pick! And > you know... my original Philles 45s sound MUCH better than > anything on CD... Jimmy, I am sure you are right, it must be "doo ron day ron day." Just listened to it last night and I cannot believe it could be that alternative. I bought the 45 in 1964 and it surpasses the CD by a country mile. On both CD versions I have, the repeat and fade is shortened by at least 3 seconds. Dreadful. They do the same thing with all the songs but Little Boy gets the biggest chop. Robert -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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