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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Mark Wirtz Anthology
           From: Mark Frumento 
      2. Re: Stranger on the Shore
           From: Richard Tearle 
      3. Re: Mason Williams
           From: Dan Hughes 
      4. Re: Instrumental Hits
           From: Mark Tilley 
      5. love is blue x two
           From: john rausch 
      6. Other 60s instrumental stand-outs
           From: Justin McDevitt 
      7. Re: Garage rock classics
           From: Jan Kristen Kristensen 
      8. Re: Mason Williams
           From: Paul Underwood 
      9. Re: Stranger on the Shore
           From: Frank 
     10. Instrumental favourites
           From: Richard Williams 
     11. Garage rock classics
           From: Davie Gordon 
     12. Instrumental Poll
           From: Richard Tearle 
     13. Garage Rock Classics
           From: Mike Dugo 
     14. Re: Garage rock classics
           From: Dan Hughes 
     15. Instrumentals and Harmony Grass
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
     16. The Liquid Room 10/06/02
           From: David Ponak 
     17. Re: Garage Rock Classics / Mason Williams
           From: Richard Tearle 
     18. Re: Brand New Cadillac / Soulful Strut / Am I The Same Girl
           From: James Botticelli 
     19. Re: Garage Rock classics repertoire
           From: Neil Hever 
     20. Re: 60 instrumentals
           From: Alan Gordon 
     21. Cake/Rose Garden
           From: Jim Dawson 
     22. Re: Instrumentals
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     23. Re: Brand New Cadillac
           From: Jan Kristensen 
     24. Re: garage repertoire
           From: Freeman Carmack 
     25. Re: Mason Williams film
           From: James F.  Cassidy 


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Message: 1
   Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 20:51:49 -0000
   From: Mark Frumento 
Subject: Mark Wirtz Anthology

I haven't been able to write back personally to each 
and everyone who enquired, so here's the low down on 
the Mark Wirtz set:

The CDR compilation is 4 CDs in one case covering 
Mark's career from 1963 to 1982 with a couple of 
"newer" surprises and an interesting hidden track. 
The set is limited to 300 copies.

I'd like to think that it's at least semi-professional 
looking but anyone who is unsure about obtaining the 
set may want to wait until someone posts a review -  
(glowing comments are most welcome, LOL!).

If you are interested please contact me off-list 
or visit http://markwirtz0.tripod.com

Thanks to the many Spectropoppers who were so supportive 
with comments, advice and general encouragement. The set 
is definitely done with "Spectropop types" in mind... 
right down to the take off on the Ember Records 45 label.

Mark



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Message: 2 Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 22:58:21 -0000 From: Richard Tearle Subject: Re: Stranger on the Shore Ian Chippett wrote: > An underrated melody despite the huge commercial success: > did Acker write anything else? The talent was obviously there. I would disagree that Stranger on the Shore started Acker Bilk's career - he had been leader of a trad jazz band for some years, though for the life of me I can't remember any of his records prior to Stranger (I know there were some, I just can't think off the top of my head! - 'Somerset' was one and maybe 'I like a nice cuppa tea'!). Certainly Stranger was his first and biggest hit (it would be anybody's biggest hit I think!). It was the theme tune for a childrens TV series of the same name, so it got an awful lot of airplay both on TV and radio. It does now figure in our second poll: if I can think of a way to cut and paste the results to a file, with Spectropop's permission, I will post the entries in the Files section - but don't hold your breath too long! Cheers Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 18:25:49 -0500 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Re: Mason Williams Harvey asks of the current whereabouts and whatabouts of Mason Williams. Here ya go: http://www.masonwilliams-online.com/ Yer welcome. ---Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 16:36:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Tilley Subject: Re: Instrumental Hits How about these two gems..."Our Winter Love" and Raymond Lefevre's "Soul Coaxing"? M.Tilley -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 20:09:27 -0400 From: john rausch Subject: love is blue x two Have to jump in the instrumental thread here, I have two different versions of "Love Is Blue", I am assuming one is the 45 edit and the other is the LP version? There is definitely adifference in versions, one is melodic and the other is more "rockin" for lack of a better term. I have these in mp3 so have no actual info, can anyone help? Also have to put my two cents in here, my fave inst. is the wonderful "Soulful Strut", and still to this day, I have never heard the female vocal version. Is it the same backing track with vocal overdub or a completely different recording? John Rausch -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 23:58:37 -0500 From: Justin McDevitt Subject: Other 60s instrumental stand-outs Hello Spectropop members, Before this thread fades into the Spectropop sunset, (if it hasn't already), I want to give recognition to some of my favorite instrumental tracks from the 60s, the majority of which would fall within the pop genre. Here they are! 1. Cast Your Fate To The Wind: Vince Giraldi 2. Down At Washington Square: The Village Stompers 3. Because They're Young: Duane Eddy 4. Fly Me To The Moon: Joe Harnell 5. Walk Don't Run: The Ventures (original 1960 version) 6. Slaughter On Tenth Avenue: The Ventures 7. Theme from The Magnificent Seven: (also the Marlboro Theme) Al Caiola 8. The Disadvantages of You: Brass Ring 9. Theme from Flight Of The Phoenix: The Brass Ring 10. Soul Coaxing: Raymond Lefevre Justin McDevitt -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 07:39:45 +0200 From: Jan Kristen Kristensen Subject: Re: Garage rock classics Dan Hughes: > Speaking of which, what are some of the songs that were > in the repertoire of every neighborhood rock group? The numero uno song every Scandinavian garage band should know apart from "Louie Louie" and "Gloria" was "Brand New Cadillac". Jan K -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 09:11:17 +0200 From: Paul Underwood Subject: Re: Mason Williams Harvey Williams wrote (concerning Mason Williams): > But why was his > career so -apparently- short? He crammed all that work > (music, tv & conceptual art pieces) into a couple of years > on the 60s-70s cusp, yet what has he done since? Not a > rhetorical question, by the way, I'd genuinely be keen to > find out. Hi Harvey, Check out the following websites for news of Mason Williams who seems to have remained very active: http://www.classicalgas.com/home.html http://www.masonwilliams-online.com One interesting bit of information: the drummer at his live shows is likely to be Hal Blaine. And the list of sessionmen on his first, excellent, album (Phonograph Record) featured names like Larry Knechtel, Jim Gordon, Lyle Ritz, Gene Estes, James Burton etc etc. Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 09:25:07 +0200 From: Frank Subject: Re: Stranger on the Shore De : Ian Chippett: > An underrated melody despite the huge commercial success: > did Acker write anything else? The talent was obviously there. Acker Bilk wrote lots of tunes and since we're on "Stranger On The Shore" one fabulous other theme he wrote was on the English B-side of this huge hit, it was called "Summer Set". A tune which has been regularly forgotten on all the many greatest hits compilations released over the years. Frank -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 09:16:00 +0100 From: Richard Williams Subject: Instrumental favourites Nice thread, but missing the obvious winner: Booker T and the MGs' "Green Onions", in itself the sound of the Sixties. The remainder of my top five would be: Earl Van Dyke and the Soul Brothers: "All For You" Jimmy McGriff: "The Last Minute" Big John Patton: "The Silver Meter" The Fendermen: "Beach Party" Duane Eddy: "3.30 Blues" Richard Williams -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 12:23:47 -0000 From: Davie Gordon Subject: Garage rock classics Dan Hughes wrote: > Speaking of which, what are some of the songs that were in > the repertoire of every neighborhood rock group? Howsabout > Gloria as Number One? And Turn On Your Lovelight and > Satisfaction and Louie Louie.... what are some others? How about "Hey Joe" and "I Can Only Give You Everything"? Then there's umpteen garage versions of "In The Midnight Hour", "Louie Louie" and variations of it Davie Gordon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 14:04:17 -0000 From: Richard Tearle Subject: Instrumental Poll Following a suggestion, I have posted the entries of our 2 polls in the Files section of this group, the 2nd Poll of which is still open. I should stress that we are not a large group (at least, by Spectropop's standards!) and neither are the results definitive - I hope you enjoy reading them. Thanks once again for the interest displayed - it's been great fun! Cheers Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 12:17:34 -0500 From: Mike Dugo Subject: Garage Rock Classics > Speaking of which, what are some of the songs that were in > the repertoire of every neighborhood rock group? Howsabout > Gloria as Number One? And Turn On Your Lovelight and > Satisfaction and Louie Louie.... what are some others? Well... "Gloria" and "Louie Louie" for sure! Not so much "Satisfaction", though. Probably "The Last Time" would be the most covered Stones' tune. Another song covered by every garage rock band would have to be "Hey Joe"... Mike Dugo 60sgaragebands.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 12:26:16 -0500 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Re: Garage rock classics Hi Jan, I've never heard of Brand New Cadillac! It did not make the charts in the USA. Who did it originally? Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 21:05:44 +0100 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: Instrumentals and Harmony Grass Much as I love/loved Acker Bilk's "Stranger On The Shore" at the time, along with some of the other instros that have been mentioned, the choices covered thus far are not amongst the most exciting available to us. Does anyone else recall "Hot Rod" by Lou Berry or "Shot Rod" by Conny & The Bellhops? Now there were a couple of real stonkers!! Someone also asked about Harmony Grass... They grew out of Tony Rivers & The Castaways after a long series of quality singles had failed to give the group a hit. HG made NME No 22 in Feb 1969 with "Move In A Little Closer" but failed to capitalise on this first hit despite some very fine records. Tony Rivers is still going strong (I saw the old rogue doing a solo set at the London Beach Boys Convention two weeks ago) - other main singer Kenny Rowe went from HG to Capability Brown where he cut some more interesting harmony/progressive crossover stuff. Any 'poppers needing more details will have to bribe me to photocopy the various CD notes I have written on them in the past. Better still, seek out the series of fine reissues on the RPM label and get the music too! Kingsley Abbott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 12:17:49 -0400 From: David Ponak Subject: The Liquid Room 10/06/02 The Liquid Room, (usually) hosted by David Ponak (me), airs every Saturday night from Midnight to 3AM (PDT) on 90.7FM KPFK Los Angeles, as well as streaming at http://kpfk.org A quick reminder for Los Angeles Liquid Roomers...be sure to check out Mello Cads, Linus Of Hollywood, The Sugarplastic and Spookey Ruben Tuesday October 8 at the Derby. (4500 Los Feliz Blvd @ Hilhurst.) Show starts at 9:15. The Liquid Room 10/06/02: 1.The Association/Come On In Birthday (WB) 2.The Polyphonic Spree/Sun The Beginning Stages Of The Polyphonic Spree (Good) 3.Nino Tempo & April Stevens/You'll Be Needing Me Baby All Strung Out (Varese) 4.Spookey Ruben/Overkills Breakfast (Hi-Hat) 5.Uminski/A Ville Uminksi (East/West-France) 6.Blue States/Season Song Man Mountain (ESL) 7.Akiko Nakamura/La La La 60's Cutie Pop Collection-Suki Suki Edit (King-Japan) 8.Tahiti 80/Wallpaper For The Soul Wallpaper For The Soul (Minty Fresh) Spookey Ruben Live In Studio 9.Glenn, Take Care 10.Leave The City 11.Spookey Ruben/Born On Labor Day Breakfast (Hi-Hat) 12.Linus Of Hollywood/When I Get To California Your Favorite Record (Franklin Castle) 13.Mello Cads/Loveland Soft As A Rock (Franklin Castle) 14.The Sugarplastic/Talk Back Resin (Air Mail Recordings-Japan) 15.Entre Rios/Decime Idioma Suave (Elefant-Spain) 16.Stevie Wonder/You Haven't Done Nothin' Fulfillingness First Finale (Motown) 17.DJ Me DJ You/Nancy Lynn Kenessey Can You See The Music (Eenie Meenie) 18.Jan & Dean/Vegetables The Brian Wilson Productions (Toshiba EMI-Japan) 19.Elvis Costello & The Imposters/Smile Cruel Smile (IDJ) 20.The Hollies with Peter Sellers/After The Fox After The Fox (soundtrack) (Ryko) 21.Fischerspooner/The 15th #1 (Capitol) 22.Paul McCartney/Temporary Secretary McCartney 2 (EMI) 23.Squarepusher/Do You Know Squarepusher Do You Know Squarepusher (Warp) 24.The United States Of America/Love Song For The Dead Che The United States Of America (CBS) 25.Paul Weller/Who Brings Joy Illumination (Independiente) 26.John Sebastion/I Had A Dream John Sebastion (Reprise) 27.Irving/End Of The Century Good Morning Beautiful (Eenie Meenie) 28.Claudine Longet/Let's Spend The Night Together Let's Spend The Night Together (Barnaby) 29.Cubismo Grafico/In Your Face Untitled (Escalator-Japan) 30.Sketch Show/Theme From A Summer Place Audio Sponge (Daisy World-Japan) 31.Tipsy/Schatzi A Go Go (Matmos Remix) Tipsy Remix Party (Asphodel) 32.Bee Gees/Every Christian Lion Hearted Man Will Show You Bee Gees 1st (Polydor) 33.The Cymbals/Radiation Vibration Sine (JVC Victor-Japan) 34.The Polyphonic Spree/Soldier Girl (2002 Album Version) Single (Fierce Panda-UK) 35.The Polyphonic Spree/Track 7 (Hanging Around Again) The Beginning Stages Of The Polyphonic Spree (Good) 37.Roy Budd/Main Theme-Carter Takes A Train Get Carter (soundtrack) (Castle-UK) 38.They Might Be Giants/Fingertips Dial A Song-20 Years Of TMBG (Rhino) 39.Gypsophile Vs. Shop/Your Garden Party deux musicians en crise (Radio Khartoum) 40.Donovan/West Indian Lady The Hurdy Gurdy Man (Epic) 41.The Negro Problem/Watering Hole Welcome Black (Smile) 42.The Rolling Stones/I'd Much Rather Be With The Boys Metamorphosis (Abkco) 43.Juana Molina/Salves Quien Queda Tres Cosas (JM) 44.Ennio Morricone/Sospiri Da Una Radio Lontana More Mondo Morricone (Colosseum-Italy) 45.Paul Williams/Mornin' I'll Be Movin' On Someday Man (Reprise) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 18:33:26 -0000 From: Richard Tearle Subject: Re: Garage Rock Classics / Mason Williams Previously: > ...what are some of the songs that were in the repertoire of every > neighborhood rock group?... Mike Dugo: > Well..."Gloria" and "Louie Louie" for sure! Not so much > "Satisfaction", though. Probably "The Last Time" would be the most > covered Stones' tune. Another song covered by every garage rock > band would have to be "Hey Joe"... What a great idea! It depends what era (and country!) you're talking about, but definitely Louie Louie and Gloria. The Stones numbers we used to practice were I wanna be your Man as well as The Last Time and Little Red Rooster, Needles & Pins (Searchers) whatever was on the latest Beatles Album(our singer was a Beatles fan!!), his Latest Flame, Johnny B Goode, Summertime Blues and a whole host of similar stuff I can't remember! Those of you who have been following the Mason Williams thread may be interested in the following links: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/YoYoSmoBro http://groups.yahoo.com/group/westtexasbluegrasscentral Neither of these are my groups and I am not (yet) a member of either of them. I am informed that Mason Williams is featured in the second group as well as, quite obviously, the first. Thanks Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 14:42:48 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Brand New Cadillac / Soulful Strut / Am I The Same Girl John Rausch wrote: > Also have to put my two cents in here, my fave inst. is > the wonderful "Soulful Strut", and still to this day, > I have never heard the female vocal version. Is it the > same backing track with vocal overdub or a completely > different recording? Having done a comparison with Barbara Acklin's "Am I The Same Girl" I believe the instrumental to be one and the same.... Dan Hughes wrote: > I've never heard of Brand New Cadillac! It did not make the > charts in the USA. Who did it originally? Vince Taylor and the Playboys. 1958 I think...I never knew it either until the Clash covered it in the late 7T's (best thing they ever did IMHO). Shortly thereafter a compilation came out with the original on it which I promptly snatched up. Long gone now, but a truly great song if ever there was one in that realm. Rifffffffs! Jimmy Botticelli Taking The E-Z...Way Out! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 20:16:07 -0000 From: Neil Hever Subject: Re: Garage Rock classics repertoire A garage band in the New York metro area HAD to perform "Good lovin'" by the Young Rascals if they wanted to escape with their lives! OK, maybe they wouldn't get beaten up but it was popular. British Invasion material was quite the necessity up until '68 or so. The Animals, The Kinks, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones were the dominant bands. I recall a garage band in Orange New Jersey playing the Animals version of "House of the rising sun" over and over again. It was one of the few songs they knew really well. Certainly, The Kinks were enormously popular as well. You must include "You really got me", "All day and all of the night" in any garage rock play list. The Kinks may have easily been one of the most covered bands during that time. Cheers, Neil Hever -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 13:38:59 -0700 From: Alan Gordon Subject: Re: 60 instrumentals Fave instrumentals? Moonglow and Love Theme from "Picnic" (long version). I probably hated that as a young hippie punk... but i love it now. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 20:55:28 -0000 From: Jim Dawson Subject: Cake/Rose Garden (From the Spectropop Public Bulletin Board) I was just reading the comments about the '60s studio group Cake, produced by those wacky scam artists, Charles Greene and Brian Stone. The story I once heard here in Los Angeles (maybe from Stan Ross, Kim Fowley or Dave Gold) was that the boys were so hot, thanks to their hits with Buffalo Springfield, the Rose Garden and the Iron Butterfly, that they sold Decca an album based simply on a piece of art showing the profiles of three or four women. Once Decca okayed the deal, Greene & Stone put together some girls and recorded the album. It was like the old indie filmmakers who first came up with lurid movie posters, then used them to get financing for the actual film. As for the group Rose Garden, lead singer Diana di Rose was a year behind me in high school in Parkersburg, West Virginia, and I knew her slightly. I was told recently that she died a long time ago. Does anybody know what happened to her? Jim Dawson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 17:17:29 -0400 From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: Instrumentals Favorite non-hit instrumental of the 6Ts (thus far): Space Walker - The Time Zone-on White Whale recorded in 1968. Favorite HIT instrumental: Out Of Limits, The Marketts. Love ALL surfing instrumentals, anything by Booker T. Telstar by the Tornadoes has been giving me the shivers for years. Special place in my heart for Love Is Blue, still spin the 45 I bought of it in March '68-- also love SOULFUL STRUT but was chagrined when it was remade a few years ago (are those the lyrics Barbara Acklin sings on her Brunswick record? BTW that isn't HER on the 90s version is it? If it is then I'm not quite so chagrined.) Re CLASSICAL GAS, has anyone ever heard "Rupert's Travels" by the amazing UK group GUN (Adrian Curtis et al)? My favorite instrumental period: Rob One, from Curved Air's astonishing and heavy, heavy, HEAVY 1970 debut album..... Regards, Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 23:15:39 +0200 From: Jan Kristensen Subject: Re: Brand New Cadillac Dan: > I've never heard of Brand New Cadillac! It did not make the > charts in the USA. Who did it originally? I believe that Vince Taylor had the original, but to any Scandinavian the ultimate version was with The Hep Stars with Benny Anderson, the future ABBA member, at the keyboard. Funny enough the singer of The Hep Stars Sven Hedlund, married Charlotte Butler one of the original Sherrys of Pop Pop Pie. They later recorded as a duo Sven & Lotta. Jan K -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 17:30:49 -0400 From: Freeman Carmack Subject: Re: garage repertoire I remember every garage band having to play a version of "I've Got a Line on You" by Spirit, "Stepping Stone" was another - more proto-punk than the Monkee's version, as well as "96 Tears" and "Hey Joe". Later, "In-a-Gada-da-Vida" was a big fav, both for the drummer and the guy with the Vox Jaguar to show off (that was me - I sure wish I still had that old combo organ). Freeman Carmack -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 17:54:11 -0400 From: James F. Cassidy Subject: Re: Mason Williams film If I remember correctly, there was at least one other film done in this style (famous images flashing/animating across the screen at a fast clip, accompanied by music). Another one was called something like "The History of America in 3 Minutes" and included thousands of images in chronological order, from colonial times to Matthew Brady Civil War photos to the World Wars to the Kennedy assassination. I think it was shown on the Smothers Brothers show, where Mason Williams was on the writing staff, right? This technique must have been pretty well known, because I also remember Albert Brooks doing a standup routine where he claimed he made a similar film, but lost it and then tried to replicate the effect "live" using props. I guess you had to see it to appreciate the humor... The proud owner of Albert's two great albums, "Comedy Minus One" and "A Star is Bought," Jim Cassidy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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