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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 19 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Kenni Woods and the Darlettes
           From: Vlaovic B. 
      2. The Robbs
           From: Christoffer 
      3. Barbara Keith and Ivy updates; American Dreams
           From: Country Paul 
      4. Darin's drummer
           From: Marc 
      5. Final Knack 45
           From: Jeffrey Glenn 
      6. Re: The Strangeloves
           From: Michael Coxe 
      7. Producers in sixties pop/rock
           From: Claus 
      8. Re: Darin's drummer
           From: Mikey 
      9. Re: The Robbs
           From: Bryan 
     10. Re: Kenni Woods and the Darlettes
           From: Mick Patrick 
     11. Re: Producers in sixties pop/rock
           From: Ron Weekes 
     12. Chiffons
           From: Stefan Wriedt 
     13. Re: The Robbs
           From: Rat Pfink 
     14. Peppermint Rainbow
           From: Paul Urbahns 
     15. Re: Peppermint Rainbow
           From: Rat Pfink 
     16. Re: Peppermint Rainbow
           From: danhughes@juno.com
     17. Re: Peppermint Rainbow
           From: Peg 
     18. Re: American Dreams
           From: John Solocinski 
     19. Re: Darin, Joni Lyman, Teenagers,  Reed-related, more
           From: Country Paul 


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Message: 1
   Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 09:57:13 -0400
   From: Vlaovic B. 
Subject: Re: Kenni Woods and the Darlettes

Read the 'new to Spectropop' bio on Kenni Woods.  I recall a discussion 
a while back as to whether it was same gal fronting the Darlettes for 
the 1965, Van McCoy produced single 'Lost/Sweet Kind of Loneliness'.  
Sure sounds like same voice.



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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 11:38:59 -0000 From: Christoffer Subject: The Robbs Hi Just found The Robbs great album. Who were those guys? Christoffer, sweden -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 13:48:36 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: Barbara Keith and Ivy updates; American Dreams So far behind, and not trying to keep up - will next week - but two interesting things crossed my e-desk... First, this from Barbara Keith (ex-Kangaroo, solo) now with her family band, the Stone Coyotes: "The new Stone Coyotes album "Ride Away From the World" is ready to go as of OCTOBER 4! Kickoff celebrations in Houston, TX, then lots more shows...." More info at http://www.stonecoyotes.com for those who were following this thread earlier. Second, Ivy's new CD, "Guestroom," is available at http://www.mintyfresh.com Not exactly "authentic" girl group, but there's a very pleasant version of "Be My Baby" (yes, that one) which is worth a listen. The album streams in Real Audio if you want to check it out. Finally, ABC-TV series "American Dreams" received limited praise from a review in the New York Times (it's the Dick Clark "re-creation" of his version of the 1960's). Did anyone see it? Is it worthwhile? Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 14:06:12 -0400 From: Marc Subject: Darin's drummer I suppose it could be Bellson, but he didn't do near as many Atlantic sessions (or others) as Francis. Just a guess. Marc -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 07:11:33 -0700 From: Jeffrey Glenn Subject: Final Knack 45 I've played both sides of the fourth and final Knack 45 (the U.S. sixtiesgroup - not the U.K. one) to musica: Freedom Now (Michael Chain-Larry Gould)/Lady In The Window (Michael Chain) - The Knack, Capitol 2075: 1968, Produced by John Palladino) Enjoy! Jeff -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 10:55:34 -0700 From: Michael Coxe Subject: Re: The Strangeloves I first wrote: > Speaking of Feldman, Gottehrer & Goldstein, AKA Strangeloves > (not a NY accounting firm), Bomp meister Greg Shaw has been > sitting on a swell lengthy writeup on these three for years, > unable to get Goldmine, Discoveries, etc to free up well worth > it cash for the story. Mikey replied: > Well, one of those mags (can't remember which one right now) > already DID a 4 page story on the The Strangeloves. > Thats probably why they won't pony up with any cash for > another one. Glad to see a Strangeloves story finally published. Shaw's was written quite some time ago (6+ years past). My guess he'd given up publication attempts, though I sent him a query. - michael -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 19:39:15 -0000 From: Claus Subject: Producers in sixties pop/rock Hi.. I'm new to this excellent group, always nice to meet people with similar interests. Years ago I started to write an album discography dealing with American pop/rock 1958-1972 (although I'm from Denmark and only 31). Now I'm in the middle of loading it all up here on www. My interest is especially the following producers, C. Boetcher, G. Usher, T. Melcher, Larry Goldberg, Michael Lloyd et al. I'm looking for volunteers in this subject. Kind regards, Claus at http://home19.inet.tele.dk/peakimp/00.html -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 15:38:07 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Darin's drummer Marc: > I suppose it could be Bellson, but he didn't do near as many > Atlantic sessions (or others) as Francis. Just a guess. >>>>nAHHH...IT AINT bELSON. Your friend, Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 12:57:45 -0700 From: Bryan Subject: Re: The Robbs Christoffer: > Just found The Robbs great album. Who were those guys? Christoffer, check out the bio I wrote for All Music Guide: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=B5jnsa9rgb23a~C And here's my review of their album: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Ai2he4j870wat Bryan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 21:21:56 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Kenni Woods and the Darlettes Original message from Vlaovic B: > Read the 'new to Spectropop' bio on Kenni Woods. I recall a > discussion a while back as to whether it was same gal fronting the > Darlettes for the 1965, Van McCoy produced single 'Lost/Sweet Kind > of Loneliness'. Sure sounds like same voice. Hi, You're not wrong, Vlaovic, the lead singer of the Mira label's Darlettes sure sounds a lot like Kenni Woods (aka Sandi Sheldon, aka Kendra Spotswood). However, the Darlettes' mystery was resolved a few months back. In short, the (Mira) Darlettes became the Sweet Things on Date. For the story in more detail, see below. MICK PATRICK Will Stos: > I downloaded a song called "Lost" by the Darlettes the other day > and I can't seem to get it out of my head. It's not terribly hook- > heavy or happy, but a little brooding. I checked John Clemente's > Darlettes discography in his book Girl Groups: Fabulous Female > That Rocked The World, but I didn't see it listed. So, question to > girl groupies on the list. Is this song by Diane Christian and the > Darlettes? Any idea if/when it was released? How about the > writers? It has a bit of Bacharach/David feel to it, and a vocal > bass line similar to some Marvelettes recordings. Any help would > be luverly! Phil Chapman: > I thought this voice sounded familiar so I searched around the net > and found the following: > "..Though Peaches and Herb was billed as a duo, their member rotation > is more similar to a group's. Herb has remained the only constant > with, at last count, four "Peaches" stepping up to the microphone. > The original Peaches, Francine Hurd Barker, a Washington, D.C., > native, earned the childhood nickname "Peaches" because of her > genteel manner. She sang in neighborhood groups and in her teens she > became the lead singer for a group named The Keynotes. Starting her > own group, The Darlettes, they auditioned for and were signed to D.C.- > area label Date Records, where their name was changed to The Sweet > Things..." http://discomuseum.com/PeachesHerb.html Mick Patrick: > Well spotted that man. And I thought I was the one who was supposed to > be the voice expert :-) > Enthused by the knowledge that THE DARLETTES became THE SWEET THINGS, > I searched around my bin, I mean brain, and came up with the following > line-up for the group: > FRANCINE "PEACHES" BARKER (nee HURD), DYANNE STEWART & NANCY J. JOHNSON. > Unfortunately for Dyanne & Nancy, the Sweet Things' recording career was > curtailed after just two 45s when Francine quit to form PEACHES & HERB > with Herb Frame. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 14:10:54 -0600 From: Ron Weekes Subject: Re: Producers in sixties pop/rock Hi Claus, You need to check out http://www.garyusher.com Ron Weekes -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 23:53:43 +0200 From: Stefan Wriedt Subject: Chiffons To add an interesting and great tune to the subject of missing B.T. Puppy re-releases and missing Chiffons re-releases, I've uploaded in high stereo quality an mp3 of "I Don't Deserve A Boy Like You" to musica (3 MB). It's also a nice Keller-Kolber composition. Let me know if you want to hear more from that B.T. Puppy 1010 "My Secret Love" album. Stefan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 18:23:01 -0400 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: The Robbs Christoffer wrote: > Just found The Robbs great album. Who were those guys? Bryan wrote: >Christoffer, check out the bio I wrote for All Music Guide: >http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=B5jnsa9rgb23a~C >And here's my review of their album: >http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Ai2he4j870wat OK Bryan, maybe you can answer this one: was the last name "Robb" a stage name or is it their real name? The reason I ask is that on the Cherokee LP on ABC the three Robb brothers are listed as David Donaldson, George Donaldson, Robert Donaldson, which I assumed were their real names. Or did they start using the name Donaldson to shed their Robbs image? Anyway, anybody that's a fan of the Robbs' LP will probably also dig the singles they recorded for ABC/Dunhill, very Grass Roots-esque stuff. I'll post 'em to musica as soon as I get a chance. Also, I read somewhere (Fuzz, Acid & Flowers, maybe?) that they also recorded a single or two for Atlantic, although I haven't been able to track down any info on those. Anybody happen to have 'em? RP -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 19:18:02 EDT From: Paul Urbahns Subject: Peppermint Rainbow I recieved a card from Bonnie of the Peppermint Rainbow thanking me for a CD of her songs I sent. I had listed the male members of the group as Iban browne, Bill Albaugh, and RG Nave (formerly of the Lemon Pipers) based on the picture on the back of the LP, Will You Be Staying After Sunday. However she said the guys were: Skip Heralene (maybe mispelled I have trouble reading hand writing), Doug Lewis and Tony Carey. Any Rainbow fans out there that might know something about these new mystery men? A guy by the name of Tony Carey was in a mid 70s heavy rock group called Rainbow but it probably isn't the same. Or could it be? Paul Urbahns -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 19:43:48 -0400 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: Peppermint Rainbow Previously: > A guy by the name of Tony Carey was in a mid 70s > heavy rock group called Rainbow but it probably > isn't the same. Or could it be? I think the Tony Carey in The Peppermint Rainbow played drums, so I'm pretty sure it's not the same guy that played keyboards for Richie Blackmore's Rainbow (but I could be wrong.) *That* Tony Carey also had a hit in '84 with "A Fine, Fine Day"... RP -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 19:02:28 -0500 From: danhughes@juno.com Subject: Re: Peppermint Rainbow Paul, here's a good photo of the modern Tony Carey (and a bio, etc): http://www.angelfire.com/80s/tonycarey/fanpage.html Born in 1953; doubt it's the same guy. ---Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 03:52:52 -0000 From: Peg Subject: Re: Peppermint Rainbow Hi Paul! I am a big Tony Carey fan, and I feel confident in saying that the Tony Carey you are thinking of was not a member of the Peppermint Rainbow. Born in 1953, Tony Carey would have only been 16 years old at the time of the albums release in 1969. If this is the album cover you are referring to, nobody here looks 16, lol. http://www.gocontinental.com/photos2/peppermintr3a.jpg However, Tony Carey was a member of "Rainbow" the hard rock/heavy metal group (with Ronnie James Dio, Ritchie Blackmore, Cozy Powell) in the early seventies, which might have caused some confusion. You can learn more about this Tony Carey at my Tony Carey Yahoo Group which is listed in my profile. Hope that helps a little, Peg -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 01:25:50 -0400 From: John Solocinski Subject: Re: American Dreams Country Paul writes... > Finally, ABC-TV series "American Dreams" received limited praise > from a review in the New York Times (it's the Dick Clark > "re-creation" of his version of the 1960's). Did anyone see it? Is > it worthwhile? I missed it, but a good friend saw it and loved it. They are replaying the first episode this coming Sunday night at 7:00 pm, and the new, second episode at it's regular time of 8:00 pm. So we get a second chance to decide for ourselves. (on NBC, btw) http://www.nbc.com/American_Dreams/episode_guide/index.html (Although, my friend was quick to point out that they had a "blooper" right out of the box. Near the beginning of the show, the announcer states "the year is 1963..." or some such, with Stevie Wonder's "Uptight" playing in the background. (from 1966) I'm sure your average Joe or Jill wouldn't pick up on that though. Hmm, Dick Clark is an executive producer of the show, you'd think he'd catch it!!) John -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 01:50:53 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: Re: Darin, Joni Lyman, Teenagers, Reed-related, more Catching up from last month till now: Bill George cited "...a recent Jackie DeShannon interview for the Orange County Weekly: http://www.ocweekly.com/ink/02/46/music-washburn.php Thanks, Bill - excellent. I also appreciate knowing about the Richie Unterberger book, "Turn! Turn! Turn!" If you haven't discovered his website, http://www.richieunterberger.com it's a true treasure trove. Special thanks to Mick Patrick for the Time/Brent/Shad links. I think I've got some international CD ordering to do.... Re; all-girl bands of the '60's, Al Kooper produced Eight Feet; I have a 45 on Columbia, 04 -43505, by them. The A-side, "Bobby's Come A Long Long Way," was a sorta stock girl-group-meets-protest track if I remember (unspecial then, more interesting now as an artifact); the song that really grabbed me then and still does is the flip, a beautiful folky waltz called "What Am I Without You?" Worth finding. IMHO. Re: Rashkowsky and others on Bobby Darin's arrangements: Mack The Knife has "Orchestra conducted by Richard Wess." I don't know anything about him, but I believe he arranged many of the sessions he led. Later Atco singles by Darin also show Jimmy (a/k/a Jimmie) Haskell leading the band. By the way, Richard Wess also arranged and led a real swingin' 45 by one Artie Lewis (Atco 45-6169, 1960): "Abracadabra"/"Hey Little School Girl." The A-side really swings; Lewis sings his young throat off, but he's up in the Wayne Newton register - until I connected the artist with the song some years later, I thought it was by a female! Sad to hear about Marshall Lieb's passing. Nice write-up, Mick. Thank you. By the way, Mick, I have a Joni Lyman 45 on Reprise 0378 (1965): "I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself" (a beautiful version of the Bacharach-David classic)/"Happy Being Blue" (wr. Marty Cooper of Vejtables/Mojo Men fame). Haven't heard either recently, and can't play 'em now because my wife is asleep in the next room! I'd never heard of Joni Lyman other than this, but your easy mention of her indicates there's more to know. Could you share the info, please? Speaking of "Lyman" but totally unrelated, I had the pleasure of seeing the Teenagers last Friday night - as in Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers, founders of the "little boy lead" doo-wop sound and a cornerstone of rock & roll. Of course, Frankie's been gone for many years, and these guys are far from teenagers. Nonetheless, two of the originals have kept the group going; Frankie's younger brother Lewis (former lead of the Teenchords) is with them; the lead is Tim Wilson of Tiny Tim & the Hits, who did the New York doo-wop classic "Wedding Bells Are Ringing" (Roulette); and the bass is the amazing Bobby Jay, originally of The Laddins ("Yes, Oh Baby, Yes") and arguably the best DJ on WCBS-FM. These guys can all still sing! See 'em if you're able. Oowee-bop-a-cow! Stefan Wriedt: I personally found Neil Sedaka very talented but aurally annoying after "The Diary," but his pre-hit history was very interesting - singing with the Tokens on a New York classic doowop, "Doom Lang," on Morty Craft's Melba label, and an odd pop 45 on Legion, "Fly Don't Fly On Me." All this while studying classical piano at Juilliard. Anyone have any info on these, especially the Legion release? (And didn't he also cut a couple of odd 45's on Decca before hitting it big?) Dixigas, I never knew the Lou Reed-John Cale connection to Otis & The All Night Workers, as they were known in the upstate NY club scene. "Don't Put All Your Eggs In One Basket," a great rockin' dance song, was #1 in Syracuse on its release in 1965. The website, http://olandem.chez.tiscali.fr/loureed/lrprevu.html is a gem. Thank you! Also, Gregg, Jackie McLean is indeed a jazz organist, alive and well and playing and teaching music for many years in Hartford, CT. The folks at radio station WWUH would know more about him. One more Reed-related note: Terry Phillips had a really good 45 on Time in the late 50's-early 60's; I forget the name, and used to have it but it has gone missing. Anyone remember the name of it? May I assume it's the same Terry Phillips? Ted L. mentioned Gabriel and the Angels. They had a decent-sized hit on Swan, "That's Tough, That's Life" (more lyrics? "What's Life?" "A magazine." "How much does it cost?" "It costs 20 cents." "But I only have a nickel." "Whoa, that's tough."). There was a follow-up on Swan at the end of 1962: "All Work - No Play"/"Peanut Butter Song," Swan 4133. No other info available here. Finally, Teacho Wiltshire (yep, I loved his name, too) was a major studio arranger/conductor for a lot of New York doo-wop groups. I remember seing his name on the very pretty "Our Songs of Love," c. 1960, by the Love Notes on Cheer. There were many more, often uncredited. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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