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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Sun Ra
           From: Phil Milstein 
      2. Re: Gabriel and the Angels
           From: Mikey 
      3. Pickwick/Custom
           From: Gregg Lopez 
      4. lou reed/ sun ra etc
           From: dixigas 
      5. Re: Gabriel and the Angels
           From: Tony Waitekus 
      6. Curt Boettcher site
           From: Matthew Moring 
      7. Re: Sun Ra
           From: Bryan 
      8. Hey Bryan...Sun Ra
           From: dixigas 
      9. Ed Sullivan???
           From: Alan Gordon 
     10. Re: Sun Ra
           From: Rat Pfink 
     11. Starsailor / Phil Spector
           From: Spectropop 
     12. Re: Pickwick/Custom
           From: Dave 
     13. Jack Nitzsche and Al Hazan
           From: Martin Roberts 
     14. Re: Sun Ra
           From: Phil Milstein 
     15. Re: Pickwick/Custom
           From: Stephane Rebeschini 


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Message: 1
   Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:12:28 +0000
   From: Phil Milstein 
Subject: Re: Sun Ra

Louise Posnick wrote:
> I knew SunRa quite well and the chances of him playing organ
> on a commercial album is slim.

I don't wish to contradict a fabulous Lovelite, particularly 
one who has touched the hem of the garment of the great Ra! 
But ...the fact of Ra's involvement on the Tifton fake Batman 
soundtrack session has been confirmed several times over by all 
of the world's finest Sun Ra archivists. I'm not sure what 
documentation or personal testimony they used to verify this 
information, but if they're convinced, I'm convinced. Ra's 
connection to the world of schlock music was via his former 
producer Tom Wilson (himself an otherworldly cat), who had 
been contracted to pull together a combo and produce the session.

--Phil Milstein



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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 19:39:44 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Gabriel and the Angels Ted L: > A friend on another list is looking for writer(s) credits > and publishing info for the flipside of a 45 by Gabriel > and the Angels that appeared on the Amy label. The only > info he has is that the A side is "Chumba." Supposedly, > the record RnB-ish sounding and from the early '60s. > Any info would be appreciated. Hey Ted.... The only release I know of from Gabriel and The Angels is "That's Life (That's Tough)" b/w "I Dont Wanna Twist No More". Great record, tho.... Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 19:47:24 -0700 From: Gregg Lopez Subject: Pickwick/Custom While we're visiting Pickwick records I'd like to throw a few questions out here. These artists filled out the very common Spectrum Golden Oldies series: Jackie McLean (I searched and found a Jazz sax player with than name -same guy? This seems to be an organ player) The Fabulous Cyclones - surf rock instrumentals Margie Anderson - a great, quirky little exotica-tinged song called "Haiti" Over on the other coast, I found a LP called "Psychedelic Guitars" made by Custom Records that has no credits on it whatsoever (although it gives technical data on how it was recorded - Ampex stereo tape recorder, Neumann lathe, Teldec cutting head). The back cover has other Custom releases, all of which feature a pretty girl on the cover and titles like Spellbound, Imagination, Fascination, Music of the Golden West and Heart of Spain. There's even an address: 5810 So. Normandie Ave, Los Angeles (which is way down in So. Central). My guess is the psychedelic recordings (more like Link Wray-ish instrumentals) were actually unpaid for studio sessions that were acquired, or maybe they were all recorded in one day on said Ampex tape recorder by some otherwise well known names. Anybody know? GL -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 03:43:30 -0000 From: dixigas Subject: lou reed/ sun ra etc to Mick As far as I can see...Robertha Williams might not be the lady's real name! The flip, Maybe Tomorrow, was also released on another Pickwick album as sung by Ronnie Dickerson. It's the same recording! And yes..any trace of these Pickwick Lou co workers..would be nice!! Again..I am a Velvet Underground nutcase..pretty much anything on them would be nice!!! I have some pretty wild stuff like single acetates... but always need more infos records..all!! hahahah Lou Reed love doo wop and girl sounds..so does another mad man, Kim Fowley (who produced amongst others the girlgroup the Murmaids!) and of course Zappa! to Louise: Well the Batman record is from 66 and was as far as I know a (famous) Tom Wilson production..and more of a spoof fun session! It is somewhat of a known fact on the internet that this is Sun Ra on the sessions..and it is a real cool album... Batman main theme being the only regular tune heheheh!! Wild swirling organs and guitars otherwise!!! xxx dixigas -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:55:48 -0500 From: Tony Waitekus Subject: Re: Gabriel and the Angels Ted L: > A friend on another list is looking for writer(s) credits > and publishing info for the flipside of a 45 by Gabriel > and the Angels that appeared on the Amy label. The only > info he has is that the A side is "Chumba." Supposedly, > the record RnB-ish sounding and from the early '60s. > Any info would be appreciated. I have a copy of Chumba at home. I'll have to look for it. Tony Waitekus WHTS/All Hit 98-9 Mercury Broadcasting, Inc. http://www.allhit989.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:22:27 -0000 From: Matthew Moring Subject: Curt Boettcher site Hi all, After a little tweaking & what-not, the all-new http://curtboettcher.com is up! Please go over & check it out... thanks, Matt -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 09:05:28 -0700 From: Bryan Subject: Re: Sun Ra Regarding the "fake Batman soundtrack session": I used to have this album as a kid. It was credited to The Sensational Guitars of Dan and Dale: 'Batman and Robin', which turned out to be a non-existent group...but the studio musicians that were put together featured members of Sun Ra's group and the Blues Project: Here's the lineup: Pat Patrick - Bass Sun Ra (Sonny Blount) - Hammond Organ Marshall Allen - Alto Sax Roy Blumenfeld - Drums Danny Kalb - Lead Guitar Steve Katz - Guitar Andy Kulberg - Bass Al Kooper - Organ John Gilmore - Sax (Tenor) It's short (about 30 minutes long), and was produced by Tom Wilson for the Tifton toy company in Newark, NJ. Tifton S-78002 (1966) Years later (about '95), I tried to track down who owned the masters so that I could license it for reissue on CD via Del-Fi. I ended up tracking down an executive producer named Ed Bland, who had put the project together with Wilson. He told me that most of the tracks were arrangments based around public domain classical themes, like Chopin's Polonaise, part of Tchaikovsky's Fifth Symphony, Tchaikovsky's Romeo and Juliet, and lots of standard surf guitar riffs. He didn't know who owned the masters or the publishing or where the tapes were, and I didn't pursue it much after that. It was very much a "cult" item, and I believe it would have done well during the mid-to-late nineties "surf" revival. I believe it's currently available on CD, but it might be bootlegged. Here's the review of the album on AMG: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=A0vfwxql5ldhe Bryan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 16:23:27 -0000 From: dixigas Subject: Hey Bryan...Sun Ra Hi! I saw you tried to track down the Sun Ra tapes! I heared that Wilson used the Velvet Underground on another session with Dan and Dale...someone earlier said: Blue Project..but they were used on this session already! There is a boot of the Bartman stuff that mentions the VU ...do you know anything about this?? cheers dixigas -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 16:32:40 -0000 From: Alan Gordon Subject: Ed Sullivan??? dear folks: Awright, now I'm confused. Is anyone clear on what the differences between these two Ed Sullivan releases are? Time-Life version: The Best of Ed Sullivan's Rock 'N' Roll Classics - 07 Volume Special TV Offer! http://www.timelife.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en [search "Ed Sullivan"] Rhino version: Ed Sullivan's Rock 'N' Roll Classics http://www.rhino.com/features/976082p.html It seems there is 2 volumes out as individual discs, and a 9 disc complete set(?) Does anyone understand this??? Alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 12:43:28 -0400 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: Sun Ra Bryan: >Regarding the "fake Batman soundtrack session": > >I used to have this album as a kid. It was credited to >The Sensational Guitars of Dan and Dale: 'Batman and Robin', >which turned out to be a non-existent group...but the studio >musicians that were put together featured members of Sun Ra's >group and the Blues Project: They've got the reissue on CD and LP at Dusty Groove: http://www.dustygroove.com/ Search for "Batman"... RP -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 18:30:48 -0000 From: Spectropop Subject: Starsailor / Phil Spector (From The Spectropop Public Bulletin Board) Hi folks. I thought the following item from New Musical Express about British group Starsailor's recent work with Phil Spector might be of interest: http://www.nme.com/news/103029.htm Steve McClure -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:00:54 EDT From: Dave Subject: Re: Pickwick/Custom Greg Lopez: > Over on the other coast, I found a LP called "Psychedelic > Guitars" made by Custom Records that has no credits on it > whatsoever...... > My guess is the psychedelic recordings (more like Link Wray-ish > instrumentals) were actually unpaid for studio sessions that > were acquired, or maybe they were all recorded in one day on > said Ampex tape recorder by some otherwise well known names. > Anybody know? Custom Records was Crown Records under a different name. That record is most likely by LA session hero Jerry Cole, who did about 75(!) albums for those guys. -dave -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 20:03:27 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Jack Nitzsche and Al Hazan Latest updates to Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop include Record of The Week - Gary Lewis & the Playboys "Happiness" and even more additions (keep 'em coming) to the discography. Al Hazan has updated my favourite page on the site, Early Days. If you want to know Jack's preferred mode of dress for the big session or Terry Day (Melcher's) favourite snack while recording, pop over and take a look. http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm Martin PS A special treat for all you sixties radio fans next week, stay tuned and DON'T TOUCH THAT DIAL! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:48:14 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Sun Ra Bryan wrote: > I believe it's currently > available on CD, but it might be bootlegged. Bryan might know more about this than I do, but I couldn't find any overt signs of illegitimacy within the packaging, and a few that gave it every appearance of an officially licensed item. dixigas wrote: > I heared that Wilson used the Velvet Underground on > another session with Dan and Dale... "The Sensational Guitars Of Dan & Dale" was, like the 101 Strings, Hollyridge Strings, and so many others, a budget-line artist-credit franchise, used on a wide variety of instrumental albums, and most likely embodied by a wide variety of instrumentalists. I don't know the story behind them -- who owned the franchise, who actually worked the sessions, etc. -- but I sincerely doubt there ever was a Dan or a Dale who played on them, except perhaps coincidentally. > There is a boot of the Bartman stuff that mentions the VU > ...do you know anything about this?? Before any archival documentation was ever undertaken for this session a rumor had circulated claiming it was performed by a combination of Sun Ra and band and the Velvet Underground -- a dream pairing that proved too good to be true. As far as I'm aware it was Ra discographer Robert Campbell who finally got the goods on the actual personnel, whereupon some VU collectors (with narrow ears) began selling off their copies (perhaps to some Blues Project collectors). --Phil Milstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:17:02 +0200 From: Stephane Rebeschini Subject: Re: Pickwick/Custom Gregg Lopez a écrit : > While we're visiting Pickwick records I'd like to throw a > few questions out here. > These artists filled out the very common Spectrum Golden > Oldies series.......... > Over on the other coast, I found a LP called "Psychedelic > Guitars" made by Custom Records that has no credits on it > whatsoever......... > My guess is the psychedelic recordings (more like Link Wray-ish > instrumentals) were actually unpaid for studio sessions that > were acquired............. Bonjour from France Max Waller wrote an interesting entry about these "exploito" records for the "Fuzz, Acid & Flowers" site/book. http://www.borderlinebooks.com/us6070s/fuzz.html Here it is. Stephane Rebeschini -------------------- Associated Soul Group Personnel: Heaven knows, do you? A ALBUM: 1 TOP HITS OF TODAY (Contessa CON 15012) 1968 This LP is one of the more celebrated and rated examples of a subgenre which tends to go under the banner of 'exploito', which has gained interest and become more collectable in the last few years. Whilst covering many styles of music and moving into 'exotica' territory, we're only concerned here with trying to unravel those that exploited the psychedelic, garage or flower-power genres. What is 'exploito' - briefly it's the cash-in on the latest musical wave at minimal cost. Both the music and artists are exploited by covering or reworking (and often retitling) current hits in the latest styles. Songwriting and artist credits or identity rarely appear because the artist was just a bunch of session musicians. Occasionally a real group would be hired on the cheap who couldn't (and at the time wouldn't have wanted to) reveal their true identity (not unlike Elton John's early career as a hired hand on all those U.K. 'Top Of The Pops' LPs). The music is frequently reused and recycled appearing on different LPs, labels, with new arrangements and often a new title. Mike Curb of Sidewalk was already having great success in recycling music and groups - his 'house-band' were Davie Allan & The Arrows who went under many assumed names. This was very effective in cutting down on studio and artist costs, to provide cheap music for the masses and still make big bucks. THE LABELS: generally found on budget labels like Contessa, Crown, Alshire, Wing, Wyncote, Custom, Design (equivalents in the U.K. would include Music For Pleasure, Starline and Marble Arch, and Europa on the continent). SLEEVES/ARTWORK: It's with psych that most tried to cash in. Sleeve designs tend to be in two camps: splashes and swirls of colour in paisley or oil-slide style accompanied by San Francisco poster-sytle lettering, or a semi-clad leggy chick surrounded by records (as in this case). Even the LP artwork got recycled too - in the case of this LP the same design was used on a Firebirds LP. MUSIC: The music ranges from totally naff to quite awesome: fuzz-psych extravaganzas, covering Hendrix or just trying to sound like him; fuzzy jazz-lounge instrumentals or instrumental reworkings (and renames) of recent hits; awful MOR pop or loungey ballad muzak. Unfortunately these extremes can be experienced on just one platter making the notion that it was one 'artist' unrealistic. Very few of these LPs don't have at least a couple of barfers. FAKE GROUPS: This is where confusion really starts - Some LPs give the impression that it's a bona-fide group via a pic or sleeve notes but the same music may turn up elswhere under a different artist name and sometimes track name, e.g. Animated Egg. Also rumoured to be a bogus group is the Purple Fox - Tribute To Jimi Hendrix LP. NON-GROUPS: Most of these are session musicians but even then one LP will not be by one group of sessioneers - given the reappearance of the same tracks on other LPs and the different syles and sounds - the name is most likely just a convenient and colourful handle for a collection of material. Examples: Associated Soul Group, Projection Company, Rasput & Sepoy Mutiny, T. Swift & The Electric Bag, Underground. Most of these 'names' had just the one release - one exception is the conglomeration known as 101 Strings. BONA-FIDE GROUPS: the Firebirds (later Electric Firebirds and 31st Flavor) are thought to have been a genuine gorup. Another example is the Chimps, who recorded the rather good Monkey Business LP on Wyncote ( 2 Monkees covers and some good garage sounds) - they would later be known as the (Thomas A.) Edison Electric Band. These LPs throw other outfits into question - the Projection Company LP features three covers of Id Inner Sounds LP tracks - Wild Times, Don't Think Twice and Boil The Kettle. The first 2 turn up on the Associated Soul Group LP and are exactly the same tracks. Whilst not the same as on the Id's LP, they sound close enough to question whether the bunch who recorded as the Id were behind some of the material on these two LPs. So what about the Associated Soul Group LP itself? In the main it's above-par: five tracks recycled on the Projection Company LP; covers include a great version of Are You Experienced (T.Swift & The Electric Bag do this too), an awful Up Up And Away (5th Dimension), Macarthur Park (Jim Webb/Richard Harris) and two Simon & Garfunkel numbers with rehashed (i.e. misheard) lyrics - Sound Of Silence and Scarborough Fair. Other tracks sound remarkably like the Animated Egg to add to the confusion. Any further information or unravelling of this tangled skein will be most welcome!! (Max Waller) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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