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Spectropop - Digest Number 606

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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)

There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Jackie DeShannon / Pleasure Seekers
           From: Bill George 
      2. Folk Rock: new book
           From: Will George
      3. Re:  TIME / BRENT / SHAD
           From: "Mick Patrick" 
      4. Re: The Montage
           From: Mark Frumento 
      5. Re: Suzi Quatro / Pleasure Seekers
           From: Richard Tearle 
      6. Re: Pleasure Seekers
           From: Phil Milstein 
      7. Re; The Pandoras
           From: Ian Slater 
      8. Re: All-Girl Bands
           From: Don Charles Hampton 
      9. Re: The Montage
           From: Michael Coxe 
     10. Beach Boys Radio Show
           From: Paul MacArthur 
     11. Marshall Leib R.I.P.
           From: Spectropop 
     12. Re: Jackie DeShannon / Ladybugs / Toni Wine
           From: Peter Lerner 
     13. Re: Let's Dance (revisited); one more time
           From: Peter Lerner 
     14. Kim Sisters
           From: Ian Chapman 
     15. Re: Beach Boys Radio Show / Dancing Queens
           From: James Botticelli 


Message: 1
   Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 01:16:03 EDT
   From: Bill George 
Subject: Jackie DeShannon / Pleasure Seekers

> There was the Pleasure Seekers out of Detroit. They were an 
> all female garage rock group  comprised of Suzi Quatro and 
> her three sisters. Suzi had a minor hit on her own in the 
> 70's, the glam inspired 48 Crash, and she achieved some 
> degree of fame with her role as Leather Tuscadaro on Happy 
> Days. 

Of course, she also had a smash in the late 70s with Stumblin' In, 
a duet with Smokie's Chris Norman. Do you have any of the Pleasure 
Seekers music? If so, could you play something to  musica?

This is a recent Jackie DeShannon interview for the Orange County 


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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 01:16:02 EDT From: Will George Subject: Folk Rock: new book I thought this would appeal to many people here. I've ordered mine, but haven't received it yet, so I can't comment on it. But it seems to be quite in-depth, well-researched, and inclusive. Bill TURN! TURN! TURN! NOW AVAILABLE "Turn! Turn! Turn!: The '60s Folk-Rock Revolution," written by Richie Unterberger, has just been published by Backbeat Books. This 300-page book ($19.95) is the first volume of the first comprehensive history of one of the greatest movements in rock music, drawing on first-hand interviews with more than 100 musicians, producers, managers, and journalists (see full list at the end of this message). An epic history of the entire style as it evolved throughout the 1960s, this first volume follows folk-rock's growth chronologically from the streets of Greenwich Village at the dawn of the decade and the electrification of folk music by the Byrds, Bob Dylan, and others through mid-1966, when the Byrds were taking folk-rock into psychedelia and Bob Dylan dramatically vanished from the public eye following his motorcycle accident. The innovations of the giants and the contributions of lesser-known heroes are thoroughly detailed, as well as the labels, producers, session musicians, managers, and fans that helped made the music happen. The sequel to "Turn! Turn! Turn!," "Eight Miles High," will cover folk-rock from mid-1966 through 1970, and will be published by Backbeat in 2003. The merging of folk, rock, and the changing social climate led to a musical and cultural revolution that was the most exciting in twentieth century popular music. This is its definitive story, weaving together lively description, critical analysis, and stories from the people who made it happen, including photos and a critical discography. Richie Unterberger is the author of the acclaimed "Unknown Legends of Rock'n'Roll" (Backbeat Books, 1998) and "Urban Spacemen & Wayfaring Strangers: Overlooked Innovators & Eccentric Visionaries of '60s Rock" (Backbeat Books, 2000), both of which contained in-depth profiles of the most interesting overlooked cult rock artists of all time, in all cases including first-hand interview material with the artists themselves and/or their close associates. For additional information regarding "Turn! Turn! Turn!: The '60s Folk- Rock Revolution" or to send questions or comments about the book, email Richie Unterberger at You can also visit his website at to view complete transcripts of his interviews with folk-rock and cult rock musicians from the past few years; sample excerpts of chapters from his books; links to other websites of interest to folk-rock, cult rock and '60s rock enthusiasts; and updates on his current and future projects. PEOPLE INTERVIEWED FOR "TURN! TURN! TURN!" AND "EIGHT MILES HIGH": Roger McGuinn (the Byrds), John Sebastian (Lovin' Spoonful), Donovan, Judy Collins, Denny Doherty (the Mamas & the Papas), Chris Hillman (the Byrds/the Flying Burrito Brothers), Richie Furay (Buffalo Springfield/ Poco), Jac Holzman (founder and president of Elektra Records), Arlo Guthrie, Janis Ian, Pete Seeger, Iain Matthews (Fairport Convention), Peter Yarrow (Peter, Paul & Mary), Sylvia Tyson (of Ian & Sylvia), Robin Williamson (the Incredible String Band), Ashley Hutchings (Fairport Convention, Steeleye Span), Simon Nicol (Fairport Convention), Dave Pegg (Fairport Convention), Bob Johnston (producer Bob Dylan, Simon & Garfunkel, Leonard Cohen, Dino Valenti), Joe Boyd (producer Fairport Convention/Nick Drake/Sandy Denny/Incredible String Band), Erik Jacobsen (producer Lovin' Spoonful, Tim Hardin, the Charlatans), Manfred Mann (discussing his covers of Bob Dylan material), Barry McGuire, Jorma Kaukonen (Jefferson Airplane), Buffy Sainte-Marie, Lou Adler (producer the Mamas & the Papas/Barry McGuire), Tim Rose, Tom Paxton, Tom Rush, Bruce Langhorne (guitarist sideman to Bob Dylan, Fred Neil, Richard & Mimi Farina, Richie Havens, Gordon Lightfoot, Tom Rush, Carolyn Hester, Buffy St. Marie), Jim Dickson (producer/manager the Byrds/the Dillards/Hamilton Camp/the Flying Burrito Brothers), John McNally (Searchers), Sal Valentino (Beau Brummels), Ron Elliott (Beau Brummels), Eric Andersen, Howard Kaylan (Turtles), John McEuen (Nitty Gritty Dirt Band), Rodney Dillard (the Dillards), Dean Webb (the Dillards), Ed Sanders (Fugs), Tuli Kupferberg (Fugs), Peter Stampfel (Holy Modal Rounders), Mimi Farina, Carolyn Hester, Danny Thompson (Pentangle bassist and sideman to many British folk-rockers), Dave Cousins (the Strawbs), Shel Talmy (producer Pentangle and Roy Harper), John Renbourn (the Pentangle), Judy Henske, Bob Lind, John Steel (the Animals), Michael Ochs (Phil Ochs manager), Cyrus Faryar, Jerry Yester, Larry Beckett (songwriting partner of Tim Buckley), Jim Pons (the Leaves, the Turtles), Dan Hicks (the Charlatans, Dan Hicks & His Hot Licks), Al Kooper, Larry Murray (Hearts & Flowers), Banana Levinger (the Youngbloods), Steve Boone (the Lovin' Spoonful), John Forsha (sideman Fred Neil/Tim Buckley), Gary Marker (Rising Sons), Jesse Kincaid (Rising Sons), Chester Crill (Kaleidoscope), Chris Darrow (Kaleidoscope), Billy James (early publicist and/or manager Byrds, Jackson Browne, Pamela Polland/Gentle Soul, Gene Clark, Rising Sons), Arthur Gorson (manager Phil Ochs/Tom Rush/David Blue/Jim & Jean), Howard Solomon (owner Cafe Au Go Go in New York, manager Fred Neil), Art D'Lugoff (owner Village Gate in New York City), Joe Marra (owner Nite Owl cafe in NYC), Happy Traum, Pamela Polland (Gentle Soul, early associate Browne/Buckley/Noonan), Carol Kaye (top L.A. '60s session bassist, played many folk-rock dates), Peter Albin (Big Brother & the Holding Company), Barry Melton (Country Joe & the Fish), David Freiberg (Quicksilver Messenger Service), Peter Asher (Peter & Gordon, producer Linda Ronstadt & James Taylor), Gordon Waller (Peter & Gordon), Jerry Jeff Walker, Tom Rapp (Pearls Before Swine), Irwin Silber (editor Sing Out! Magazine), Paul Williams (Crawdaddy founder and critic, not the singer), Paul Nelson (critic for Sing Out/Little Sandy Review/Rolling Stone), Izzy Young (proprietor of the Folklore Center in Greenwich Village, columnist for Sing Out), Andrew Oldham (manager/producer the Rolling Stones/Marianne Faithfull/the Poets), Frank Werber (producer/manager the Kingston Trio/the We Five/Blackburn & Snow), Anna Chairetakis (head of Alan Lomax Archive and daughter of Alan Lomax), Kenny Edwards (Linda Ronstadt & the Stone Poneys), Ian Anderson (editor of Folk Roots magazine), Shawn Phillips, Geoff Muldaur, Barry Tashian (about associations with Farinas and Gram Parsons), Sherry Snow (of Blackburn & Snow), Charlie McCoy (Bob Dylan session musician), D.A. Pennebaker (director of Bob Dylan concert film Don't Look Back and Monterey Pop), Murray Lerner (director of Festival film with footage from 1963-66 Newport Folk Festivals, including a clip from Bob Dylan's first electric rock concert), Nat Joseph (founder/owner, Transatlantic Records), Barry Friedman aka Frazier Mohawk (producer Kaleidoscope/the Holy Modal Rounders/Paul Butterfield), Elliot Mazer (producer Gordon Lightfoot, Ian & Sylvia, Linda Ronstadt, Richie Havens, Jerry Jeff Walker), Gene Parsons (the Byrds, Nashville West), Richard Scott (the Bluethings), Steve Lalor (Daily Flash), Sam Lay (Paul Butterfield Blues Band), Mac MacLeod (early Donovan associate), John Simon (producer, the Band, Leonard Cohen, Gordon Lightfoot), Roy Halee (Simon & Garfunkel producer/engineer), Vern Gosdin (the Gosdin Brothers, the Hillmen), ED Denson (Country Joe & the Fish manager), Gary Duncan (Quicksilver Messenger Service, Dino Valenti associate), Bruce Botnick (Elektra Records engineer/producer), David Rubinson (Columbia producer), David Anderle (producer, Judy Collins, David Ackles), Jerry Schoenbaum (executive, Verve/Folkways and Verve/Forecast Records), Bernard Stollman (owner ESP Records), Steve Gillette, Steve Young, Hamilton Camp, Joshua Rifkin (arranger, Judy Collins), John Wood (engineer, Fairport Convention/Nick Drake/the Incredible String Band), Merrell Fankhauser (Fapardokly, HMS Bounty), Corky Siegel (Siegel-Schwall Band, about early demos with Joni Mitchell), Morgan Cavett (manager New Balladeer coffeehouse in Los Angeles, mid-1960s), Trini Lopez, Jim Yester (the Association), Rick Turner (guitarist for Ian & Sylvia, Autosalvage), Ken Koblun (the Squires/3's a Crowd), Georg Kajanus (Eclection), Gerry Conway (Eclection/Fotheringay), Mick Moloney (the Johnstons), Stefan Grossman, Bob Siggins (Charles River Valley Boys), Roy Marinell (the Gentle Soul), Tom Campbell, Phil Elwood (San Francisco music journalist), Tony Thompson (the Rising Storm), Marc Silber (Children of Paradise), Mary McCaslin, Maury Manseau (the Sunshine Company), John Ware (Linda Ronstadt, Michael Nesmith & the First National Band), Don Glut (the Penny Arkade), Dick Campbell, Dick Weissman, Andrew Means (journalist, Melody Maker), Gene Shay (folk radio program host, WHAT and WDAS in Philadelphia) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 13:55:41 +0100 From: "Mick Patrick" Subject: Re: TIME / BRENT / SHAD Country Paul > "More Rockin' On Broadway" on Ace CDCHD 853, is there > a track list on-line for that, please? The Time/Brent/Shad > labels of the '58 - '61 period had some great stuff, i.e., > the Bell Notes (not just "I've Had It" but the beautifully > innocent "Old Spanish Town") and also Bertha Tillman's > exquisite "Oh My Angel" on Brent. Hi, There are three excellent Time/Brent/Shad CDs around. On-line tracklists are available for: "Wop Ding A Ling": "Rockin' On Broadway": "More Rockin' On Broadway": Ace Records have numerous other tracks from these labels, by acts like the Donays and Bertha Tillman, available in their catalogue. Their website is user-friendly: MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 09:20:18 -0400 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Re: The Montage From Bob Rashkow: > ...I've never heard I SHALL CALL HER MARY (unfortunately) but > I am very privileged to own a DJ copy of WAKE UP, JIMMY... Yes it's Bert Sommer, with whom Michael Brown wrote several songs. The Montage album is one of those amazing hidden treasures of pop music. It finally got an official CD release on Sundazed (typical incredible packaging job too). If you like "Wake Up Jimmy" run out now and get the CD! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 13:11:47 -0000 From: Richard Tearle Subject: Re: Suzi Quatro / Pleasure Seekers Can I just add that Suzi Quatro had at least 3 Big hits in the UK in the 70s - Can The Can, the aforementioned 48 Crash, Devilgate Drive and, I think, Daytona Demon...she is now appearing in a stage revival of Annie Get Your Gun (or is it Oklahoma?- one of the two, I always get them mixed up!) To see more of Suzi, you might like to visit my Beautiful Women of Rock group: I also have a sensational 60s group on: -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 09:20:06 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Pleasure Seekers Bill George: > Of course, she also had a smash in the late 70s with Stumblin' In, > a duet with Smokie's Chris Norman. Do you have any of the Pleasure > Seekers music? If so, could you play something to musica? Their 45 What A Way To Die / Never Thought You'd Leave Me (Hideout 1006) is included in the recent Norton CD Friday At The Hideout, and also available separately as a 45 (w/ PS). Note that this is not girl-harmony music, but rather pure bashing garage. --Phil Milstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:56:36 +0100 From: Ian Slater Subject: Re; The Pandoras Patrick Rands wrote: > Also if curious there's a wonderful all girl link here: > The link has a link to a super web-site about the Pandoras of "I Could Write A Book" fame: Now I know why "Hey Ah" and "All About Jim" sound so different - totally different group. Anybody know about the latter - the same as recorded on Oliver? Ian Slater -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 17:28:30 +0000 From: Don Charles Hampton Subject: Re: All-Girl Bands Javed Jafri: > I would love to hear more about all-girl bands from the 60s. Are > there any others which come to mind who were fun or exciting? Even though they were actually a vocal group in the studio, the cartoon band Josie and The Pussycats would have to qualify - especially if your criteria is fun and excitement! You'd be hard- pressed to find more exciting tracks than "Inside, Outside, Upside- Down," "Roadrunner" and "It's All Right With Me." Great pop/soul girl group sound circa 1970. The later version of this studio group, which included Kay Hanley and Jane Wiedlin, recorded the soundtrack for the Josie and The Pussycats movie last year. Their music was a little too much on the punk side, in my opinion, but you might like it. Stuffed Animal -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:51:28 -0700 From: Michael Coxe Subject: Re: The Montage Bob Rashkow: > I've never heard I SHALL CALL HER MARY (unfortunately) but I am > very privileged to own a DJ copy of WAKE UP, JIMMY which has to > be one of the more bizarre recordings in my collection thus far. > Brown aka Lookofsky et al leave the disaster that befalls the > two brothers at the end entirely up to your imagination, > continuing in the Left Banke's tradition of subtlety and poetic > elegance. There's a surname of Sommer involved too - suspect > this ISN'T BERT Sommer ("We're All Playing in the Same Band", > died way too young, appeared with Ronnie Dyson et al in HAIR on > Broadway), or is it? Yes, the two collaborated on five Montage songs on the original release. Sommer also sang lead on 1967's Left Banke single "And Suddenly", instead of official vocalist Steve Martin. Brown also assisted (though only credited on one cut) on Sommer's self-titled Buddah lp. There is also a version of "Grand Pianist" with Sommer singing. michael -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:25:46 -0500 From: Paul MacArthur Subject: Beach Boys Radio Show Check it out, the Back To The Beach Radio Show featuring the music of Brian and the Boys airs every Saturday at 5pm Central time on KSHU FM. This week's feature... Harmonies. The show begins with "Our Prayer" and ends with "Endless Harmony" -- what will be played during the 50 some odd minutes in between??? Check it out on the web, live, Saturday at 5pm Central Go to Click the listen button and enjoy the sounds of the Beach Boys. - - Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 20:41:58 -0000 From: Spectropop Subject: Marshall Leib R.I.P. Dear Members, Marshall Leib of the Teddy Bears passed away in March. For a modest, belated obituary: The Spectropop Team -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 15:01:29 +0100 From: Peter Lerner Subject: Re: Jackie DeShannon / Ladybugs / Toni Wine Alan comments most observantly: > ......I think it's great how Ms. King affects a Mexicali accent > for the demos for the Mexican American songs and a southern drawl > for her Everly Bros demos. She gives good Brooklyn accent too. > Gawd, were those folks talented. Can we add Jackie DeShannon to that tribute to talent. In her early 60s demos she does pretty good attempts at being Elvis, Bobby Vee, Roy Orbison, and Brenda Lee, amongst many others, in her brilliantly arranged pitches of some great songs. Patrick introduced the topic of the Ladybugs: I have two sets of Ladybugs on 45 vinyl. There's the Murmaids / Jackie DeShannon fun combination on Chattahoochee, doing Gerry and the Pacemakers' "How do you do it". And then there are the even funnier Ladybugs on Legrand records doing "Fraternity USA" and "Who sent this love note". This is one of the oddest in my collection; these girls are having a great time doing mock British voices and sounding very much like the British -American television personality Loyd Grossman. I would suspect that neither group is the one in Patrick's picture. Anyone know any more about either record - and who were the Ladybugs on Smash? Original Message: > Just saw that Toni Wine, co-writer of "Groovy Kind Of Love", > "Black Pearl" and "Candida" and one of the top background > singers of the 60's and 70's (the voices of Betty & Veronica > on the early Archies records, including "Sugar, Sugar" and > "Jingle Jangle" among many others) will be playing at > Genghis Cohen in L.A. this Friday at 9:30. > I've never heard of her performing before. The club doesn't > have much information about what's going to happen, and they > don't take reservations. I've been there before and the room > is small, but the sound is very good. I'm sure all Spectropoppers would like to have a review / write-up of this concert. Certainly I would! Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 23:36:22 +0100 From: Peter Lerner Subject: Re: Let's Dance (revisited); one more time Phil was kind enough to write, reviving an early 2002 thread..... > Guess which happy couple managed to fill the dancefloor with all > ages by playing "Dancing Queen"?:-) - (the original, not the ultra- > modern, recently withdrawn, KLF version.) Many congratulations to > Peter and Karen. Well, just to prove it was no coincidence, Peter and Karen went to another wedding yesterday. The monumentally repetitive 70s and 80s disco music got a lot of us moving around at the post-nuptial party, but it wasn't until guess what slid out of the speakers that everybody - I mean evrybody - was dancing. And number two for danceability was the fab Candi Staton and "Young hearts run free". Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 01:44:19 +0100 From: Ian Chapman Subject: Kim Sisters Jason wrote: > Hey everyone - I just joined this group. I am the manager > of THE KIM SISTERS - the greatest night club act ever! > Please check out our new website at > and please keep an eye out for the upcoming DVD of some of > their spectacular television appearances and CD collection > of live and studio recordings including many unreleased! Jason, What a fantastic and entertaining website, with great pics!! I knew a few of the sisters' Monument 45s, which I always enjoyed, but knew very little about them. What a fascinating story theirs is. I was quite taken aback to read about their harrowing experiences as kids and the murder of their father after the invasion of Seoul. Talk about succeeding against all odds..... Looking forward to the DVD and CD issues. And love that logo!! Ian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:53:43 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Beach Boys Radio Show / Dancing Queens Paul MacArthur wrote: > ...the Back To The Beach Radio Show featuring the music of Brian > and the Boys airs every Saturday at 5pm Central time on KSHU FM. > Go to Click the listen button and enjoy the > sounds of the Beach Boys. That is amazing...I spent the better part of today compiling tracks for my 78 minute Beach Boys anthology....ballads, instros, and LP cuts along with carefully selected hitz...the title: "My Big Fat Beach Boy Epiphany". Sadly it took until now for me to realize their genius. But when you know.......... Peter Lerner: > And number two for danceability was the fab Candi Staton and > "Young hearts run free". As a mobile dj for over 20 year's i'll agree that that tune works. "What's the sense in sharin'?" Jimmy Botticelli Taking The E-Z...Way Out! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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