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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
                  http://www.spectropop.com/Jamie.htm
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There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Jack Nitzsche At Spectropop
           From: Martin Roberts 
      2. Re: M seeks trivia
           From: Phil Milstein 
      3. Re: M seeks trivia
           From: Mikey 
      4. Re: Toni Wine
           From: Michael Gessner 
      5. Re: Mary Weiss-Stokes of the Shangri-Las
           From: james botticelli 
      6. Re: oldies radio on net?
           From: james botticelli 
      7. Re: M seeks trivia
           From: Guy Lawrence 
      8. Re: JOHN R. GLUCK, JR.
           From: Mick Patrick 
      9. You Baby / Just for You Baby
           From: Martin Roberts 
     10. Re: M seeks trivia / The Shillings
           From: Neil Hever 
     11. Re: GROOVY KIND OF LOVE
           From: Mick Patrick 
     12. Re: Backcomb'n'Beat: Dream Babes 3
           From: Mark Frumento 
     13. Re: oldies radio on net?
           From: Ron Weekes 
     14. Re: GROOVY KIND OF LOVE
           From: Gary Diamond 
     15. Re: GROOVY KIND OF LOVE
           From: Doug 
     16. Re: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
     17. HUCK FINNS
           From: Scott 
     18. Re: HUCK FINNS
           From: Phil Chapman 


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Message: 1
   Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 12:39:28 +0100
   From: Martin Roberts 
Subject: Jack Nitzsche At Spectropop

I'm very pleased that the Jack Nitzsche site has officially 
settled in its 'spiritual' home, Spectropop. My rather unusual 
grasp of the English language has been "improved" by editing. 
Hopefully what is now written will be easier to understand! 
The same with layout changes, not all immediately obvious but 
the site now has a more pleasing and professional look. These 
changes have not been without tears and tantrums, (sorry about 
that!) and some adjustments have been resisted. If it don't work, 
blame me! I cannot thank the Spectropop Team enough for their 
patience and long hours spent getting it 'right'. I haven't been 
the easiest of people to deal with over this and I'm glad we're 
still friends! Thanks fellas.
 
Thanks also for the kind words on and off list about Jack 
Nitzsche At Spectropop, also the gracious introduction by the 
Team. I'll get round to writing to you all individually later. 
 
I would welcome any additions, I know there is already too 
much of my over-excited writings, but I would also love to see 
over-excited writings and cooler observations by other folk.
 
I do hope Spectropoppers will help the site grow into the 
complete 'one-stop Nitzsche shop'. I'd be grateful for any:

News and snippets of info, additional records for the 
discography (happily, I don't think this will ever be complete).

Movie music and soundtrack LP reviews (my knowledge of Jack's 
film work is pretty flimsy).

Record reviews, eg Jack's solo album on Reprise, Ten Best 
of the 70s, or indeed any of his recordings.

Fans' reviews: Are you involved in another site, would somebody 
from, say, a Rolling Stones site like to write about the 
difference Jack made to their recordings?

Stories for 'The Jack I Knew': Do you, or someone you know, 
have a personal story to tell?

Articles. A few additions are already planned for 'Writings', 
but have I missed a good article, especially from his early 
days?
 
Loads of stuff to be done. More links, more pics etc, etc
 
I'm sure the Guys and Dolls of Spectropop can help the site 
become a sparkling jewel in Spectropop's crown.
 
Martin
http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm
 
PS - 'Record of the Week' is a pleasant little ditty on Dot 
by Karen Verros called "Little Boy". Some of you might 
already know the original recording by The Crystals! 



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Message: 2 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 10:14:20 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: M seeks trivia james botticelli wrote: > I'm hoping that some of the collectors among us can shed > a little light on these long held 45's from my collection that > I am curious about. I know nothing about any of these records. > Do you? > The Daily Flash The French Girl Uni Peter Blecha's liner notes to Rhino's "Nuggets vol. 8: The Northwest" say this about The Daily Flash: "I Flash Daily" confessed the Day-glo bumper stickers that served as Seattle's introduction to paisley pioneers, The Daily Flash. Conceived by two key coffeehouse hoot-scene folkies who lured a whizkid guitarist and the Frantics' drummers, The Daily Flash proved to be a crucial band that helped bridge the gap between Seattle's sizeable folk/bluegrass crowd and the dominant teen R&B/NW Rock scene. Released in the fall of '66, "Jack Of Diamonds" [incl. on comp] was a choice B-side raveup that showcased the Flash's unique Dylan-meets-the-Yardbirds approach. In the spring of '66, before tripping off to San Francisco and LA (where they appeared in "The Girl From UNCLE" singing the decidedly bizarre, "Oi, Oi, Oi, My Bulgarian Baby" [alas, not incl.], The Daily Flash recorded the "Violets Of Dawn" [also incl.], a precious flower power period piece. And that's all he wrote. --Phil Milstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 11:15:50 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: M seeks trivia Original Message From James Botticelli: > I'm hoping that some of the collectors among us can shed > a little light on these long held 45's from my collection that > I am curious about. I know nothing about any of these records. > Do you? > The In Crowd Questions & Answers Viva Great Record!! Actually, "The In Crowd" were none other than The Eligibles, Ron Hicklin, Al Capps and Stan Farber. Why they didnt keep the name The Eligibles is a mystery tho. This is one of my favorite records, actually. Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 11:38:31 -0400 From: Michael Gessner Subject: Re: Toni Wine I heard that "Groovy Kind Of Love" was originally recorded by Toni Wine. Is this true? If so, does anyone have a copy? Thanks, Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 12:39:02 -0400 From: james botticelli Subject: Re: Mary Weiss-Stokes of the Shangri-Las Tony Leong wrote: > ... And that's called--sad!! On the other hand, > I saw her at the screening for the Brill Building documentary, > and she was posing for photos with everybody and was the life > of the party!!!!! And that's called--glad!!! was she tall? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 12:43:16 -0400 From: james botticelli Subject: Re: oldies radio on net? Lindsay Martin wrote: > Does anyone have a decent oldies station in their area that > can also be heard live on the Net? From noon until two PM EST daily there is the "Lost & Found" show on WMBR, Cambridge at MIT. www.wmbr.mit.edu Depending on who the DJ is it can be a great show. I recommend Wednesdays with Larry Azrin who usually starts off the show with a set of "Bubbling Under" dusties; songs that charted in just below the Top 100. Sometimes the show gets too Grateful Deadish for my taste (I HATE The Grateful Dead) but sometimes the jock (always a different one daily) digs deeeep. JB/founder of the show back in the day -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2026 11:49:09 -0700 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re: M seeks trivia james botticelli wrote: > I'm hoping that some of the collectors among us can shed > a little light on these long held 45's from my collection Hi James, I have the Group Called Us 45 too, though I always assumed the plug side was the flip - "American Girl And Liverpool Boy". It's a charming little track that must have been released at the very onset of the British Invasion, before U.S. producers started trying to duplicate the Beatle sound - it sounds very N.Y. vocal group. The whole thing seems to be the brainchild of producer/arranger/writer Jimmy Ienner who spent the seventies producing the Raspberries, Three Dog Night, Grand Funk and others. I'm sure I've got other sixties credits on him but they're not coming to mind right now. By the way, could you supply me with the writer and producer credits for that United Fruit Co. 45? Regards, Guy Lawrence. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 18:11:59 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: JOHN R. GLUCK, JR. Hello All, Original message: > Can anyone remember who John R. Gluck, who co-wrote "It's > My Party" (a hit for Lesley Gore), is (or was)? Was it a > pseudonym or a real existing composer? John Gluck was a friend of the family of Brill Building songwriting goddess Ellie Greenwich. He was the man who fixed it for the young Ellie to audition for Jerry leiber & Mike Stoller. And for that we should all be eternally grateful. Before long she was supplying hit songs for the Exciters and Jay & the Americans. Without him Ellie might have gone on to become a schoolteacher. Quiet at the back. And spit that gum out! MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 18:34:10 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: You Baby / Just for You Baby Phil Chapman asked, > [Martin, do you have the "Just For You Baby" 45?] Yes. I guess like most Spectropoppers, when I see a Philles cover version I usually buy. Expect to be disappointed and you won't be disappointed, works best for me! Although, talking of "You Baby", I adore Madara White's production with Len Barry on vocals. Hell, it's even on my jukebox. I'd recommend all Len's Decca material. Back to The Shillings: "Just For You, Baby" wr B Mann & C Weil (although someone as thoughtfully added Phil Spector's name in ink to the credit), Produced Wes Farrell, Fontana 1543. Nice jangly guitar, folk rock, harmony number. The B-side is in a similar vein also. Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 18:20:32 -0000 From: Neil Hever Subject: Re: M seeks trivia / The Shillings james botticelli wrote: > ... I'm hoping that some of the collectors among us can shed > a little light on these long held 45's from my collection that > I am curious about. I know nothing about any of these records. > Do you? > The Schillings Children And Flowers Three Rivers Jim, The Shillings (proper spelling) are from the Lehigh Valley area of PA near Allentown. Most of them were from the suburban area of Emmaus. They had several releases on different labels including Three Rivers "Children and flowers" which I own. Here is a quote from Allentown's Morning Call November 12, 1966: "This fantastic singing group has just released a new record entitled "Lyin' And Tryin'"/"Children And flowers"...five major radio stations in the nation, including one in California...are playing the song as pick of the week. Starting this weekend, the group will begin touring the East Coast, making personal appearances in New York City with the well known disc jockey Murray the K...the boys are working on an album and in a few months a picture and story will appear in Sixteen magazine". Prior to this they released "Barbara Ann" (Mercury) and "Just for you baby" (Fontana). I don't believe they ever got to the album. I saw them perform at a reunion with Jay and the Techniques and The Cyrkle in 1986. If you want to hear the best PA bands you should also look for The Nazz, King's Ransom, The Centurys and a host of one-45 wonders. I have a lot of this stuff in my collection. Cheers, Neil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 20:17:32 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: GROOVY KIND OF LOVE Hello All, Original Message From Michael Gessner: > I heard that "Groovy Kind Of Love" was originally recorded > by Toni Wine. Is this true? If so, does anyone have a copy? Well, it stands to reason that Toni Wine would have recorded the original demo version of "Groovy Kind Of Love", considering that she and Carole Bayer (Sager-Bacharach) wrote the song, with just a little assistance from that famous Brill Building/ Screen Gems pop hack Clementi, famous for his bubblegum smash "Sonata, Opus 36, No. 5". However, if such a demo exists, I know no one who has ever heard it. Most folk will tell you that the original version of "Groovy Kind Of Love" was by Patti LaBelle & the Bluebelles, released on Atlantic 2318 in 1966. I beg to differ. The first version of the song was by Wand label duo Diane & Annita (sometimes billed as Annita & Diane), whose rendition was issued only in France, on the EP Vogue Int 18035 in 1965. Curiously, the lead vocals on that Diane & Annita track, to my ears, sound as if they were sung by neither of that pair, but by the song's co-author Carole Bayer. Go figure. In Dawn Eden's interview with Lesley Gore - which all of you who possess the "You Don't Own Me" gal's Bear Family box set will have read (not you, Phil :-) - Lesley reveals that her friend Carole Bayer offered her "Groovy Kind Of Love" to record first. Unfortunately, the big wigs at Mercury refused to let her wax a song with the word "groovy" in its title. I'm not one for British cover versions, generally, but, back in the day, I thought the Mindbenders' recording of "Groovy Kind Of Love" was the great dane's gonads. The interpretation of the song by Petula Clark is also somewhat, erm, groovy. MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 16:47:07 -0400 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Re: Backcomb'n'Beat: Dream Babes 3 Phil Milstein wrote: > The album is indeed a revelation: to the McKinleys, > to Wirtz..... Yes. I love the CD and Peanut's "Come Tomorrow" really is the highlight for me. Shows that Mark wasn't all Spectored out in that period as some fans assume. The Perpetual Langley track "Two by Two" is great as well... just a wonderful comp. Now if I could only find the first in the series. Glad to see #3 getting some recognition though. Still surprised that the two great Valerie Avon tracks produced by Mark W. haven't been out. That will be corrected "unofficially" on the Anthology (hint hint) which is coming out very soon. Mark F. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 14:35:00 -0600 From: Ron Weekes Subject: Re: oldies radio on net? Lindsay asks: > Does anyone have a decent oldies station in their area that > can also be heard live on the Net? I live about 3 1/2 hours north, by car, from Salt Lake City, Utah. Whenever I'm down there I tune my car stereo dial to 94.1 FM. That's KODG-FM. They are also broadcasting on the net. I listen to them a lot in my office at work on my computer. Just do a search for the call letters and you should find the link to give them a listen. I'm sure we'll here from others on the list about thier favorites. I'll looking forward to hearing other suggestions to give them a try. I would guess some of the larger metro areas (larger than Salt Lake) probably have some great Oldies stations on the net. And they would be even better if they used the quality of FM but broadcast mono only material. We do have two oldies stations here in southeast Idaho...but they almost have a TOP 40 Oldies rotation. It's the same songs over and over again. Not much variety. I do better burning my own discs from my collection and listen that way. Ron Weekes www.garyusher.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 16:57:39 EDT From: Gary Diamond Subject: Re: GROOVY KIND OF LOVE Toni Wine and Tony Orlando recorded an album together for Chips Moman in 1984, entitled "Orlando & Wine" on Triad Records and did an updated duet retitled "A Special Kind of Love" along with some additional duets and some solo versions of songs. Feel free to contact me with any more info needed.... Gary Diamond Denver CO -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 21:20:31 -0000 From: Doug Subject: Re: GROOVY KIND OF LOVE Mick Patrick wrote: > In Dawn Eden's interview with Lesley Gore - which all of you who > possess the "You Don't Own Me" gal's Bear Family box set will have > read [not you, Phil :-)] - Lesley reveals that her friend Carole > Bayer offered her "Groovy Kind Of Love" to record first. > Unfortunately, the big wigs at Mercury refused to let her wax a > song with the word "groovy" in its title. > > I'm not one for British cover versions, generally, but, back in > the day, I thought the Mindbenders' recording of "Groovy Kind Of > Love" was the great dane's gonads. The interpretation of the song > by Petula Clark is also somewhat, erm, groovy. Another Mindbenders/Lesley Gore connection: they both covered another Toni Wine/Carol Bayer song, "Off And Running". I thought "Groovy" was great also, though I think their best is either "Can't Live With You (Can't Live Without You) or "Ashes To Ashes" (both of which also are Wine/Bayer songs). The Mindbenders were a superb and underrated group. Doug -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 22:27:36 +0100 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: Re: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop Just like to add my voice of welcome to Martin's great "Specs" site. Like Peter I found the time slipping by as I started on Saturday morning to delve into what is on offer, and the Tammy Grimes track is a lovely addition - Jack at his best. Congratulations to Martin...this is without doubt a totally excellent addition to Spectropop, and if other members haven't yet partaken of this particular feast I urge them to without delay!! Go to: http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm BTW 'twas I who had the "Just For You Baby" Shillings 45 - very fine it is too! Kingsley -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 21:58:53 -0000 From: Scott Subject: HUCK FINNS Okay you experts ... can someone tell me something about an outfit called The Huck Finns. I bought one of their singles as a yardsale "Two of a Kind" b/w "We'll Catch the Sun" Kapp K-958. The "A" side is a nice slice of fuzz guitar garage rock. I've looked through all of my reference materials, surfed the web, including MusicStack and Gemm and can't find anything on 'em. Scott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 22:20:31 -0000 From: Phil Chapman Subject: Re: HUCK FINNS Scott wrote: > Okay you experts ... can someone tell me something about an > outfit called The Huck Finns. I bought one of their singles > as a yardsale "Two of a Kind" b/w "We'll Catch the Sun" Kapp > K-958. The "A" side is a nice slice of fuzz guitar garage rock. > I've looked through all of my reference materials, surfed the web, > including MusicStack and Gemm and can't find anything on 'em. Scott, a click on the Spectropop sidebar menu item, '60s 70s Beat Psyche' http://www.spectropop.com/hpsyche1.html takes you to Vernon Joynson's excellent online resource. Phil - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From "Fuzz Acid & Flowers": The Huck Finn Personnel: MICHAEL APPEL A DONALD HENNY A 45: 1 Two Of A Kind / We'll Catch The Sun (Kapp K-958) Dec 1968 A NYC outfit who were previously known as the Balloon Farm, some of whose members had previously been in Adam. "Two Of A Kind" is a catchy fuzz-popper with a hint of bubblegum. Compilation appearances include: Two Of A Kind on Turds On A Bum Ride Vol. 3 (CD). (Max Waller) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - and from a Google internet search...... *This tune was created by the same bunch who gave us the immortal "A Question of Temperature" by the Balloon Farm (on Nuggets Box etc.)That frantic atmosphere was replaced by pulsing bubblegum beat on this song, which was a commercial failure because it lacked of silliness found in almost all of the bubblegum "Hits". Nonetheless enjoyable tune...listen to this on "Turds On A Bum Ride Vol.3" CD comp. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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