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Spectropop - Digest Number 546



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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
                   http://www.spectropop.com/Jamie.htm
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There are 10 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Love Generation/The Beckies
           From: Mark Frumento 
      2. Re: Bonner and Gordon?
           From: Glenn 
      3. More Pete Records; Baby Jane...; Bills Soden and Hjerpe; Garry Bonner now
           From: Country Paul 
      4. Lisa Hartman-Black
           From: Stuffed Animal 
      5. Baby Jane Article/Thanks To Jan
           From: John Clemente 
      6. Grassroots
           From: Alan Gordon 
      7. Re: Lisa Hartman-Black
           From: Phil Milstein 
      8. Re:The 45 Club on the 27th-Hollywood
           From: simon white 
      9. Saturday Morning Playlist
           From: Simon White 
     10. Simon's Saturday Morning Playlist
           From: Ian Chapman 


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Message: 1
   Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 08:34:26 -0400
   From: Mark Frumento 
Subject: Re: Love Generation/The Beckies

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kingsley Abbott"

> Incidently, seeing the recent reference to The Love
> Generation, Joe and I did talk about the possibility
> of doing a comp of them at old revola time when we
> did Eternity's Children and The Sunshine Company,
> but at that stage we thought they were just a tad
> wimpy.  Ok, I know their "Montage" is great and some
> other cuts are quite summery bouncy stuff, but I don't
> reckon they quite had the depth of other acts.
> Someone argue with me now please and make me
> go back and listen again....

I picked up the Sundazed comp on the strength of the one or two 
cuts on "Sunshine Days" and I'll admit to being disappointed 
in their material. It's not that they are wimpy (give me wimpy 
any day), the songs just aren't that strong. Having said that... 
the packaging, sound and the usual Sundazed quality help it along 
and for soft pop fans it probably should probably beon your list 
of purchases. Just not ahead of the two groups Kingsley mentions 
in his post.

While on the subject of Sundazed: does anyone know if Sundazed or 
any label is planning to release the Beckies album? Now that all 
of the early Left Banke and Montage material is out it seems to be 
natural that the Beckies would be next.





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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:27:51 -0000 From: Glenn Subject: Re: Bonner and Gordon? unclemeatz wrote: > A double-sided question: > a) Anybody have an idea what this talented twosome (although > I doubt they work together anymore) is up to now? Well, I can answer question a), at least partly. Garry Bonner has been singing with Kenny Vance in a retro-group called The Planotones for the last 8 years. I don't think he composes anymore. Here's a link: http://www.planotones.com/pl2b.htm I once wrote him a long fan e-mail praising him to the heavens, and after two months of prompting and urging by the people who ran his website, he finally responded to me. Here's what he wrote: "Glen, Thanks for the compliments. Garry" I always thought that it was weird that a guy with such a thoroughly unconventional spelling of his first name, Garry, who has probably had to deal with misspellings of it his whole life, wouldn't even bother to spell my name right (two n's)in his stunted, obligatory-sounding reply. So while I retain my absolute idolatry of his talent, I think he's a jerk. Bonner and Gordon split as a team around 1972. Boner (oh, I mean Bonner) recorded some solo singles for ATCO which he wrote himself. They weren't very good. Alan Gordon formed his own publishing company, ExtraGordonary Music (always loved that name) and continued to write songs (mostly by himself without co-writers) at least well into the 70's. His biggest hit was with Barbra Streisand in 1977, a Top 10 song called "My Heart Belongs To Me". My favorite thing he wrote post-Bonner/Gordon was a 1974 single by Sha-Na-Na called "Maybe I'm Old Fashioned". I believe it bubbled but never made the Hot 100, but it was well played on the radio here in Baltimore. If you don't know this song, RUN and get it. I mean RUN. If you can't run, spend a minimum of 50 hours trying to locate it on the Internet. Bid $100 for it on eBay. It's also the lead-off song on their album "Hot Sox", which would probably be easier to find than the single, and which is a good album overall. But "Maybe I'm Old Fashioned" is one of the greatest misses of all time. Gordon's talent as a writer of great pop hadn't slipped a bit, and had maybe even improved. Extraordinary dynamics and incredibly inventive melody. Both Bonner/Gordon trademarks, but this time without Bonner. I don't know what Gordon is doing now. I'd like to write to him, but I'm afraid to. GleNN -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:28:42 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: More Pete Records; Baby Jane...; Bills Soden and Hjerpe; Garry Bonner now Some days there are Spectropop digests which are endlessly fascinating; today is one of those. Re: Erik Meinen's post, I don't think John Braheny had "December Dream" out as a 45; at least I don't remember it. I too have the album, "Some Kind of Change," although it's been years since I played it through. Another cut just came to mind - "Tour Line Ladies," in which you hear a Hollywood bus-tour driver narrating a trek passing many of the stars' homes over a musical montage of some sort. Guess I've got to re-listen to the album.... I remember someone playing Michael P. Whalen's "Puerto Rican Bay Blues" on WBRU in Providence, RI back in the late 60's-early 70's; it was sorta folkie-country if I remember. Doesn't it begin by him counting the song off upward - and then back down? He dropped the awkward "P" when he went to Reprise. It didn't make his career take off, however! "THE GROUP: But you know I love you/If's a big mighty word (Pete 711)...Produced by Joseph Porter." From the Status Cymbal? Nick Archer, you're closest to the source on this. Any info? The story of Baby Jane & the Rockabyes, http://www.spectropop.com/BabyJane/index.htm answers so many questions I didn't know to ask. I have the DeVaurs' "Where Are You" on Moon - very nice doo-wop track. I never suspected they were related, nor did I know the connection to the Halos, who hit with the well-sung but irritating "Nag" on 7 Arts. I have a Baby Jane 45 on Spokane (the same label as Scott English's beautiful late doo-wop hit, "High On A Hill," from 1963)> It's also interesting that they backed Baby Washington; "Work Out" is a fun rocker from an artist usually known for her ballads. Congratulations to John Clemente and your contacts and team on the excellent piece. (And the following story about the Swedish novel - who'd-a thunk it?!?) Nick Archer, thank you for the Bill Soden update. I remember playing "Soakin' Up Sun" on the radio, and thinking the artist was too good to be that obscure. I look forward to the interview - your session with Byron Warner (Status Cymbal) was superb, by the way. Thinking of that era reminds me of a singer-songwriter I haven't thought about in years - Bill Hjerpe (the "H" was silent). I have two 45's on Epic: the chaotic "Navigation Blues" and "Mrs. Frost," a would-be Dylan-ish party song that wished it was the follow-up to "Rainy Day Women #12 & 35." Partial answer to "unclemeatz": Garry Bonner is currently singing and touring with Kenny Vance and the Planotones. Vance, of course, did "Vance 32", a wonderful Spectropop-oriented autobiographical album on Atlantic from the early 70's (containing the immortal "Looking for An Echo"), and "served time" with Jay & the Americans and in Steely Dan's aggregation. I haven't seen the group live yet, but am told they're really good. They're based in New York, and I know there's a website somewhere. Leonardo asks: > Has anybody written a book about the Mob's connection to the 60's > music industry? ...and lived? Seriously, I also read "Hit Men" and join Mick Patrick in his recommendation. Now I'm REALLY on vacation! Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:39:11 +0000 From: Stuffed Animal Subject: Lisa Hartman-Black Will George: > And if I remember correctly, she was discovered singing in a > Houston club, but not by Jeff Barry. They were put together > after her signing with Kirschner. Sorry, but that's not what Jeff Barry told me. He said he got a call from a songwriter friend named Dene Hofheinz (who ended up co-writing most of the material on Lisa's debut album) to come down to Houston and check out this hot young singer. He did so, and then contacted Don Kirshner about Lisa, resulting in a contract. This is logical because Jeff had a prior business relationship with Kirshner as producer for The Monkees, Archies and Globetrotters. Stuffed Animal -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:25:00 -0400 From: John Clemente Subject: Baby Jane Article/Thanks To Jan Hi All, Thank you for the positive response to the Baby Jane & The Rockabyes article. I want to thank Jan Khoubach for his help and his tape. He was the one who told me about the Elektras single. I own a copy and knew that the voice sounded familiar, but couldn't make the connection. Since there were male voices present, I thought it was a mixed group and left them out of my appendix in the book. I knew about his efforts to write a novel around the group, but unfortunately, I can't read them. Yvonne was ill a few months back and is now recuperating. When she is well enough, she will be doing a radio show with me (NYC). Jan, if you read this, please e-mail me. I accidentally deleted your address. Regards, John -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:45:21 -0700 From: Alan Gordon Subject: Grassroots From: Glenn Subject: Re: Grass Roots - Who Were They ? > Bill Fulton actually WAS the lead singer on the Dunhill 45 > of "Where Were You When I Needed You" which charted. His > version is on the now out-of-print Grass Roots CD "Their All > Time Greatest Hits". P.F. Sloan's version appears on the CD's > "Anthology" from Rhino and "The Millennium Collection" on MCA. Hi Glenn: You sound like you're a serious expert when it comes to all things Botanical ("Grass Roots"... get it? Bad joke). But isn't the original single on the Varese album, "Where Were You When I Needed You" (VSD-5511 1994)? It says it's the "Original Single Version." But of course liner notes have been known to be misleading. I guess this really cool disk may be out of print now. Ever notice how the lyrics aren't exactly the title? "Where were you when I needed "YA." Also: The Repertoire 2fer album of "Feelings" and "Let's Live For Today", with a couple of extra bonus tracks is also very nice. albabe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:15:12 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Lisa Hartman-Black Stuffed Animal wrote: > Sorry, but that's not what Jeff Barry told me. He said he got > a call from a songwriter friend named Dene Hofheinz (who ended > up co-writing most of the material on Lisa's debut album) to > come down to Houston and check out this hot young singer. FYI (and admittedly off-topic), Hofheinz is a big name in Houston. Judge Roy Hofheinz - who I would assume to be a relative of the songwriter Dene - was the big-bucks backer of the city's acquisition of a baseball franchise back in the early '60s, and was the prime mover behind the creation of the Astrodome (at the time promoted as "The 8th Wonder of the World") and, with it, the dreaded Astroturf. --Phil Milstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 00:20:01 +0100 From: simon white Subject: Re:The 45 Club on the 27th-Hollywood Leonardo Flores wrote: > Uplandmod'd Top 10 > 1) Maggie Thrett-Soupy (Dynovoice) > 2) Invitations-What's Wrong With Me, Baby? (Dynovoice) > 3) Beverly Warren-March (BT PUPPY) > 4) Johnny & The Expressions-Boys and Girls Together (Josie) > 5) Gene Chandler-It's Time To Settle Down (Checker) > 6) Chuck Wood-Seven Days Too Long (Roulette) > 7) Eddie Holman-Eddie's My Name (parkway) > 8) Del Capris-Hey Little Girl (Kama Sutra) > 9) Marvin Gaye-Little Darlin I Need You (Tamla) > 10)Doris Jones-No Way Out (UA) Sounds great! Two particular favourites there, Doris Jones and Chuck Wood. Chuck was on the jukebox of my regular pub in the late seventies and I used to hammer it and the instrumental version of 'Harlem Shuffle ". Believe me, they were not like the usual sounds you heard there! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 10:40:00 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Saturday Morning Playlist The Spy - The Guys From Uncle The Man From U.N.C.L.E. - The Gallants Run Spy Run - Billy Strange Goldfinger/Goldfinger Pt 2 - The John Barry Orchestra/Jimmy Smith You Only Live Twice - Little Anthony and the Imperials Sock It To Em JB pt 2 - Rex Garvin 007 - Count Basie and his Orchestra The James Bond Theme - Danny Davis I Spy For the FBI - Jamo Thomas Secret Agent Man - Mel Torme Mission Impossible - The Billy May Orchestra Secret Agents - The Olympics Agent 34 24 38 - Mamie Galore Come Spy With Me - Smokey Robinson and The Miracles Agent OO Soul - Edwin Starr / The John Schroeder Orchestra The Silencer - Chuck Jackson Agent for Love - The Girls From Uncle You Only Live Twice - Lorraine Chandler Soul Bossa Nova - Pretty Purdie Windy - Shades Of Brass Fly Me To The Moon - Julie London Spinning Wheel Pt 1- James Brown Love For Sale - Henry Jerome And His Orchestra Pulsation - Sonny Lester Knowing When To Leave - Dionne Warwick Good byee - Peter Cook and Dudley Moore -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 10:35:37 -0000 From: Ian Chapman Subject: Simon's Saturday Morning Playlist Simon, For the ultimate in girl-group-goes-spy, you just gotta hear the Kane Triplets' vocal version of "Theme From Mission Impossible" on U.A! Definitely one for you! This post will self-destruct in 20 seconds.......... Ian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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