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Spectropop - Digest Number 542

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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)

There are 19 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Recordland & Smile
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
      2. April Stevens, Spector 5CD sessions
           From: Alan Gordon 
      3. Jeff Barry/Lisa Hartman
           From: Will George  
      4. Re: the Tammys
           From: Paul Payton 
      5. Re: IT'S MY PARTY
           From: Niagara 
      6. Kangaroo and Barbara Keith
           From: Paul Payton 
      7. Re: Niagara's list
           From: Niagara 
      8. Re: It's My Party
           From: Will Stos 
      9. Posting to musica
           From: Ian Chapman 
     10. Re: Grass Roots - Who Were They ?
           From: Billy G Spradlin 
     11. Re: the Tammys/Lou Christie
           From: Gregg Luvoxx 
     12. Leader Of The Pack
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     13. Re: Smile
           From: richard hattersley 
     14. Kangaroos
           From: Lindsay Martin 
     15. Various versions of "Why Don't You Do Right?"
           From: Niagara 
     16. Greetings from Italy!
           From: emily 
     17. Re: Jeff Barry/Lisa Hartman
           From: niagarafalls 
     18. Re: Spector production
           From: Frank 
     19. Re: Ruthann Freidman
           From: luis suarez 


Message: 1
   Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:42:31 +0100
   From: Kingsley Abbott 
Subject: Recordland & Smile

Hello again y'all

Been away for awhile, with computer crashes work across the pond (Hi Mike R - 
Thanks so much for the message - sounds like you drive some sort of Big Rig 
RV!!! - I'm sure 5th Ave is wide enough!!!)

Whilst in the land of the yee-haw recently (Calgary at stampede time) I 
happened upon a nice record shop that I must recommend. It is in the Inglewood 
area of the city, and is  called Recordland.  I needed two hits during which I 
found both Goldbriars (15/10) albums, the 2nd Love Generation (3), Jay & 
Americans, Exciters, Neon Philharmonic (8), Barry Mcguire (Precious time 15), 
Little Peggy March (6), 3x We Five (10,10,8), Donna Loren (15), Diamonds (Prod 
by Curt B & autographed 10), Cowsills (8), Don & Goodtimes (5), Tommy Roe 
(Winter's Day 10), Poppy Family (5).  I didn't have time to hit the singles 
(mostly 4 up), but can you imagine what may be there!  They prices above are 
Canadian dollars and vary mainly on condition, so I got the Love Generation and 
Don & the Goodtimes mainly for the interest and having A copy. Anyone who wants 
full contact details mail me direct. 

Checking back thru the postings I saw Country Paul's speculation about a Brian 
Wilson Smile tour.  In June I raised that very possibility with a couple of his 
band and from what I gather the thought has crossed their minds.  Set wise they 
are already edging towards it with the extended H&V etc, and it certainly would 
be a logical extension of what Brian is doing now. Now wouldn't we all like to 
be a fly on the wall at THAT initial rehearsal and planning meeting when they 
put it all together.  Imagine the great instrumental sections his band could 
put together! I am more than happy to await the obvious musical integrity of 
Brian and messrs Foskett, Sahanaja, Gregory et al.  If I was a betting man, I'd 
reckon it was pretty short odds...and with another live album at the end of it.

Cheers to all, and hope to see some of you at the party which I hope to get to.

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Message: 2 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:35:44 -0700 From: Alan Gordon Subject: April Stevens, Spector 5CD sessions Most likely was the original. It sounded pretty jazzy. At first I thought it was Ann Magnuson doing a retro thing. Anyway, thanks for all the answers. Now I'll have to try to find an inexpensive CD of it. There are 2 CDs of Nino and April's stuff out that I know of. A 2fer on Collectibles and a best of on Varese. Both very good and fun. I know this group does not support the proliferation of bootlegs... but if anyone has copies of the Spector 5CD sessions tapes, could they please contact me privately (off list). albabe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:33:55 EDT From: Will George Subject: Jeff Barry/Lisa Hartman The Lifetime cable network had an "Intimate Portrait" episode last week featuring singer/actress Lisa Hartman (now Lisa Hartman Black), a very underrated singer IMO. Jeff Barry produced her first album, and was interviewed during the show. I'm sure it will be rerun, so check your listings. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:29:27 -0400 From: Paul Payton Subject: Re: the Tammys Will Stos wrote: > The group that has everyone doing the "Egyptian Shumba" are > profiled this week at the Girl Group Chronicles web site.... FYI, yesterday (Sunday) afternoon, Gaylord Fields played the song on WFMU and announced it as the best record ever made. Joey Stec, you may want to check out and e-mail the list owner to find Ruthann Friedman. See my earlier posts for why. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 22:21:37 -0000 From: Niagara Subject: Re: IT'S MY PARTY Mick, Thanks for the very interesting data about "It's My Party" and the various versions of the song. I had not heard most of those things before, BTW. Niagara -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:20:49 -0400 From: Paul Payton Subject: Kangaroo and Barbara Keith Denis Gagnon, welcome. You cite "The Kangaroo" by The Kangaroos. This note isn't about "your" Kangaroos, but your query reminded me of a late 60s album by a group called Kangaroo, fronted by Barbara Keith, on MGM or a subsidiary (possibly Verve Forecast). N. D. Smart (also of Barry and the Remains, Hungry Chuck and Bo Grumpus among others) was the drummer, and I believe the guitarist was a kid (check the cover picture) named Jimmy Spelios, who played glorious out-of-control psych leads. My favorite track is a beautiful Barbara Keith composition called "Daydream Stallion"; she later recorded a definitive version of "The Bramble and The Rose". Prodded by the memory of this, I occasionally wondered "what happened to Barbara Keith". Now, the answer: check out which is a family band with her husband and stepson! Seems they renounced the major-label life and Los Angeles and moved to western Massachusetts where they record largely in a home studio and play cool clubs like the Iron Horse in Northampton. According to the band bio, they became the inspiration for the Elmore Leonard book, "Be Cool", which is dedicated to them and includes some of their lyrics. Sure would love to go to the London party - but it's 3000+ miles and an ocean from here in the New York metro, so unless plans change dramatically, I must RSVP in the negative. Perhaps someone with more available time and resources could organize a similar gathering near New York; if so, sign me on to be there. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 22:35:32 -0000 From: Niagara Subject: Re: Niagara's list Ian, thanks for the welcome and the listening suggestions. It's just great to have found this group where people are so well- informed about the world of pop/rock/etc. I had never really thought about what "(Won't You) Marry Me Again?" would have sounded like with the Wall of Sound, but I'm sure it would have been wonderful. Of course, it was wonderful the way it was, as a quieter type of record. I thought that the words were just perfect, and the singing was glorious. I have never seen a copy of "Boys'Town". I saw it listed years ago in a Goldmine publication, but I guess I was rather put off by the title. I didn't think it would have anything to do with THE Boys'Town, but the title did not intrigue me. Now that I have read some posts about it, I think I will try to find it. I have been a Tempo-Stevens fan for many years, and I like their duo records best of all. Of Nino's instrumental works, I particularly like the "Come See Me 'Round Midnight" LP, which is pretty much hard- driving, metro jazz with some rock elements. My favorite cut on that LP is "Roll It". I always loved April's voice, but thought that she overdid the vamping on a lot of her solo numbers. I often wondered if she was really aware of how fine her voice was. She never needed any gimmicks. I preferred when she just sang, as that was more than great enough. BTW, when you and others put "posted to Musica", what do you mean??? Niagara -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:34:16 -0000 From: Will Stos Subject: Re: It's My Party Mick Patrick wrote: > Fanita James of the Blossoms sowed the first seeds of doubt: > "We learned it and we were doing it slow - we would `drag' it. > .... In fact, Phil got us to do "It's My Party" in the same > style as my version of "Chapel Of Love". All I can say is that I'm glad it was never released! I loved most of what Phil produced, but I don't know what he was thinking with Darlene's "Chapel of Love". She sounded like she already wanted a divorce! What was it, an arranged marriage to a total geek? Maybe it would have sounded okay if not for the Dixie Cups' version, and maybe the Blossoms' "It's My Party" would have sounded good if we didn't all know and love Lesley's version, but I doubt it. BTW, whatever happened to all those demos Barbara English recorded? Would they just be thrown out once the song was pitched and accepted? I know some have seen the light of day, but what about the others? Will : ) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:07:34 -0000 From: Ian Chapman Subject: Posting to musica > BTW, when you and others put "posted to Musica", what do you mean??? > Niagara Niagara, If you click on the "Files" link on the Spectropop Members Home Page, you'll be taken to the area where members can post items of interest that are generally too unwieldy to go in a regular message, such as discographies, articles, interviews and pictures. Within the initial files page, you'll see the "musica" folder. This is specifically for the posting and downloading of mp3 music tracks that are perhaps currently under discussion, or which have perhaps been put there to promote some discussion. Usually, these are songs that are obscure or hard-to-find items - it's against Spectropop policy to post tracks that are known to be already available commercially on legit CDs, and the tracks are there for a limited time only. musica has restricted space, so from time to time the mp3s are cleared to make way for new ones. Ian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:33:31 -0000 From: Billy G Spradlin Subject: Re: Grass Roots - Who Were They ? > Bill Fulton actually WAS the lead singer on the Dunhill 45 of > "Where Were You When I Needed You" which charted. His version > is on the now out-of-print Grass Roots CD "Their All Time > Greatest Hits". P.F. Sloan's version appears on the CD's > "Anthology" from Rhino and "The Millenium Collection" on MCA. Huh, So theres 3 different versions of this song?! I always thought it was Rob Grill who re-recorded the vocal for the "Lets Live For Today" LP's. (BTW I think Grill's vocal is the best) Another GS single version that sounds quite different from the stereo LP version is "Tip of My Tounge"...which sounds like it has more vocal overdubs, a louder fuzz guitar and is compressed extra hot. Great song! Billy PS: 'Bout time someone did a webpage on this great group! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:02:48 -0700 From: Gregg Luvoxx Subject: Re: the Tammys/Lou Christie Lightnin' Strikes - Lou Christie. MGM Records stereo 1964 (?) One of the most intense records I own and one incredibly lucky thrift store find. Side one is six covers: Bacharach/David, Lennon/McCartney, 'Heatwave'(a super swinging lounge version), 'Since I fell For You' - tough tune - he nails it, 'Goin' Out Of My Head'. It's intense in how he can cover the older pop material while maintaining his rock and roll edge, phasing baritone into falsetto and upping the ante for pop singer chops. Side 2 is all originals penned by Lou and his 'svengali' Twyla Herbert: 'Trapeze' (funky, Four Seasons-ish), 'Diary' ("I want to burn burn burn, burn my past away"), 'Jungle' (monkey sounds courtesy The Tammys), 'Crying In The Street' (more Tammys here - the streets are a jungle I guess), the exquisite 'Baby We Got To Run Away' (who is that saying "I love you Lou?") and the number one smash title song. With the exception of 'Lightin' Strikes' these tracks are not released on CD. Produced by Charles Calello, no musician credits. GL -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 08:49:20 -0000 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Leader Of The Pack Dear fellows, Whilst listening to my copy of the 3 cd set " Chapel of Love" & other girl group greats,(all original recordings!!) I started to think about "Leader of the Pack". I recall buying my copy (in England) 1965 on the Red Bird label, I next came across it on a Buddah sampler "Leaders of the Pack" along with Sopwith Camel, Brooklyn Bridge, Lou Christie hits. Then it reappeared on Kama Sutra in 1972 & re-charted, was this the truncated version, what section was left out, I know it didn't make sense, why was it done? Next it turns up again in 1977 and charts again this time on Charly/Contempo if I'm not mistaken in the shortened version again. Listening again today it felt like hearing it anew,now it has been restored to how it was meant to be. Aaahhhhh. Ken on the West Coast -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:08:07 +0000 From: richard hattersley Subject: Re: Smile Kingsley: > I am more than happy to await the obvious musical integrity > of Brian and messrs Foskett, Sahanaja, Gregory et al. If I > was a betting man, I'd reckon it was pretty short odds...and > with another live album at the end of it. I think it would be great to see Brian and co tour the Smile material. However I hope that Brian's plans for the Smile material is not another live album. At least not before we have a box set of the original sessions. I enjoyed your Pet Sounds book by the way, great stuff. all the best Richard Hattersley -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 19:08:26 +0800 From: Lindsay Martin Subject: Kangaroos My hunch as an Australian is that this song, "Do the Kangaroo" by The Kangaroos, is not Australian. It sounds a bit too Aussie to be an Aussie pop record, if that makes sense. Of course, the example of "Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport" can be cited against me, and it is possible that some band of would-be Rolf Harrises did record such a song as a novelty, but it sounds more like something recorded elsewhere. Also, I can find no reference to it in any of the obvious sources of Australian pop information. However, I really liked Phil Chapman's suggestion about football. I immediately thought of Aussie Rules football team North Melbourne, the Kangaroos, but - alas! - their team song turns out to be all hearty team spirit, and not one mention of a kangaroo! Still, it could be a lead! Lindsay -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:01:47 -0000 From: Niagara Subject: Various versions of "Why Don't You Do Right?" Hi! I have not yet gotten the Tempo-Stevens CD collection that includes a version of "Why Don't You Do Right?", which was apparently recorded in 1996, years after I last heard them sing together. Can anyone tell me how their voices were on it? I know that April Stevens was still in excellent voice in 1990 when the wonderful "Carousel Dreams" album was released, but that was some time ago. I haven't heard any new vocals by Nino in many years. I understand that there is also a song from the 1980s, previously unreleased, on that CD collection. I probably would have already gotten the CD except that I have all the other songs on it. I have "Why Don't You Do Right?" by Joanie Sommers (on a 45 rpm). Joanie sings the song in very jazzy, lively way, and she snarls at the guy she is addressing in the song. It's a very nice recording to have. What kind of style did Tempo-Stevens record the song in? Niagara -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:54:07 -0000 From: emily Subject: Greetings from Italy! Hello everyone, I just joined... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:54:49 -0000 From: niagarafalls Subject: Re: Jeff Barry/Lisa Hartman Will George: > The Lifetime cable network had an "Intimate Portrait" episode > last week featuring singer/actress Lisa Hartman (now Lisa > Hartman Black), a very underrated singer IMO. Oh, yes....I agree that Lisa Hartman is quite underrated as a singer. I doubt that the general public is even aware that she has made records. A friend of mine has the Jeff Barry produced-LP you are talking about. I haven't heard it in years, but remember that I was very impressed by Lisa's voice and by the good songs on the album. Jeff Barry did a fine job putting the album together. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:38:29 +0200 From: Frank Subject: Re: Spector production I've come across a single by THE BLACKWELLS on Jamie which says on the labels of both A and B side: "Produced by Phil Spector". Could one of our Phil Spector "living dictionary" give me some infos on this single ? Thanks Frank -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:25:50 -0000 From: luis suarez Subject: Re: Ruthann Freidman I have the Ruthann Freidman LP, "Constant Companion". Fans of Joe Boyd productions will enjoy this record. It has that Sandy Denny/Fairports intimate folk feel with a bit more LA pop magic. Luis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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