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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. False Endings /Flying Pickets
           From: Warren Cosford 
      2. Re: Keep On Dancing
           From: Mikey 
      3. Re: Little Richard
           From: Phil Chapman 
      4. Re: Stereo - beatles remixes
           From: richard hattersley 
      5. Jacques Morali
           From: Leonardo Flores 
      6. False Endings
           From: David Feldman 
      7. new Yahoo group (Spanish)
           From: userow74 
      8. Keep On Splicing
           From: Phil Chapman 
      9. Lost Simon & Garfunkle....
           From: Ken Levine 


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Message: 1
   Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:33:31 -0400
   From: Warren Cosford 
Subject: False Endings /Flying Pickets

Country Paul wrote:
> A little later, but still soft-pop: The Flying Pickets, 
> "Only You" was a gorgeous a capella record which I believe 
> was a large hit in the UK - and which Dr. Demento played on 
> his show in the US. It sure grabbed my ears. Who were they, 
> where did they come from and go to, and did they have more 
> hits of similar nature?

Very true Country Paul...."Only You" is a wonderful record. 
It was also a hit at CHUM Toronto and some other parts of Canada.  
I'm told it was a bunch of middle aged guys and a lot of "studio 
tricks".  An LP was rush recorded when the song hit......but 
there's nothing special on it.

False endings?  Suspicious Minds was part of Elvis's Las Vegas 
Shows before he recorded it.  Apparently the false ending was a 
stunt they did live but never intended to do on record and in 
fact recorded it straight in Nashville.  After the session, 
Elvis went back to Memphis with the rough mix but called producer 
Felton Jarvis the next day to say he wanted to come back and record 
it the way they performed in concert with the false ending. 
Of course that would mean a lot of extra money. Felton asked Elvis 
to give him 24 hours to see if he could splice the effect in the 
studio with what they had on tape. He did.

My first false ending?  Save My Soul.  Jack Scott 1958.

Warren Cosford



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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 15:04:00 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Keep On Dancing Dan Hughes: > The Gentrys performed that song on the Amateur Hour TV show. > And I feel sure they came to a stop and then started again > when they performed on TV - probably before they ever cut the > song as a record? Thanks Dan!! Yes, I feel they had that arrangement in the can before they ever recorded it. I dont think any splicing was done on that one...doesn't make sense. thanks for sharing your story!! Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 11:55:50 -0000 From: Phil Chapman Subject: Re: Little Richard simon white wrote: > Incidently, I believe we have someone here on list who had an > involvement in the recording of Richard's Stan Shulman, Tommy > Boyce and Richard Hartley produced, '77 recorded and '78 released > version of "Send Me Some Loving" which has Spectoresque overtones. I thought I'd worked on this, but I had to check the label first! Stan Shulman owned the track, and wanted it "pop'd up" for a UK release, so it got sent to Tommy & Richard, who were enjoying a chart run with Darts. The track has a lazy sax/guitar rhythm feel, which reminded me of "Why Don't They Let Us Fall In Love", providing a template for the mix to keep me happy. We added a few fingersnaps, tambourine, guitar and a slightly incongruous Paris Sisters-style string line. But it worked - the record got plenty of radio play. Unfortunately, LR couldn't be pursuaded to come over to promote it. The BBC even offered to record a video track at his home, but he declined. Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:53:47 +0000 From: richard hattersley Subject: Re: Stereo - beatles remixes Billy: >The 80's CD's are showing their age, tape hiss, drop outs, no extra >liner notes, except for the excellent job on Sgt Peppers and Past >Masters 1 & 2. Some people like George Martin's remixes of "Help" >and "Rubber Soul" but I would prefer the original stereo mixes the >next go-around. I found the "Help" and "Rubber Soul" remixes pretty pointless. I could tell little difference between the originals. If they are gonna do'em again they should make "Rubber Soul" more like the Yellow Submarine songtrack remixes. "Rubber Soul" in stereo is like the first two albums which were recorded on 2 track. I understand the reason that some Beatles stereo albums are good (HDsN, B4sale, Help, Revolver, white) and other are bad (rubber soul, sgt pepper) is beacause Martin and Emerick were experimenting as to what was best. Although the "good" stereo mixes are superior listening for people listening in stereo. The other ones sound better for people who for whatever reason are listening to them reduced to mono due to the volume increase suffered by instruments in the middle of the stereo picture. Whatever the case, even though some prefer mono some prefer the stereo. With a band as huge as the fabs, both should be available. Even some of Cliff Richards early sixties releases have had CD reissues featuring both mixes. COME ON APPLE...GET TO IT!!!! Richard http://homepage.ntlworld.com/r.hatts/ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 05:59:31 -0000 From: Leonardo Flores Subject: Jacques Morali Hello Friends, Before his work with the Richie Family and the Village People, does anybody know if producer Jacques Morali produced, wrote or was involved with any other groups in Europe or here in the US? Although his above productions were Disco arrangements, Jacques Morali certainly knew how to write a killer hook in a song.The Melodies in songs such as The Woman, Ups and Downs, and Baby I'm On Fire are just absolutely mesmerising. Just wondering if he ever applied his songwriting talents in a more traditional pop/rock/soul group. Thanks again! Cheers Leonardo Flores PS The 45 Club will have it's second night on Saturday June 22nd at the Knitting Factory in Hollywood, California. We had a 200+ Soulful turnout on the opening night. Visit our website http://www.the45club.com for photos of the first night as well as other information. Thanks again....again! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:00:54 -0500 From: David Feldman Subject: False Endings > Fake Endings I don't think anyone has mentioned the Bobby Freeman "Do You Want To Dance," one of my favorites. One of the weirder ones, "Clap Your Hands" by the Beau-Marks, is notable for at least one reason. It's the only fake ending that I can think of that is addressed directly in the lyrics. The silence is broken by the spoken: "Don't go away!" Anyone know anything about the Beau-Marks? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 14:11:15 -0000 From: userow74 Subject: new Yahoo group (Spanish) This my new Psycho Group, with sounds http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/extracto_de_pollo_en_lata/ 60'S MUSIC FOR THE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:19:42 -0000 From: Phil Chapman Subject: Keep On Splicing Mikey: > Yes, I feel they had that arrangement in the can before > they ever recorded it. I don't think any splicing was done > on that one...doesn't make sense. They probably did have that arrangement in the can, and then recorded it that way, only to find it wasn't long enough for a single. I looked at the track in a sound editor this afternoon, and overlaid the restart from 1:31 on top of the beginning, and it phased perfectly. So it is definitely a splice job. You can hear the the vocal 'pop' on the word "keep" immediately after the opening drum roll, and the 'uh' during the kick break are identical in the restart section. They seem to be fond of this method of recording....Their version of "Everyday I Have To Cry" has a very suspect modulation:-) Actually, "Keep On Dancing" makes me wince slightly - It sounds like a kiddies version of "Twist And Shout"/"Do You Love Me" with minor lyric changes - all that "dancin' and a prancin'". My opinion is probably coloured by the experience of working on the 70s UK Jonathan King produced version by The Bay City Rollers. Who did record the original version of this song? Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 10:20:38 -0700 From: Ken Levine Subject: Lost Simon & Garfunkle.... ASSOCIATED PRESS... --Simon & Garfunkel never released a live album when they were recording together, but fans of the group know about a state of the art recording from a 1967 Philharmonic Hall concert. The recording will finally be released next month on Columbia/Legacy. "Live From New York City 1967" documents a show from Jan. 22, 1967, at Philharmonic Hall in New York City's Lincoln Center. The performance epitomized the folk music era of the 1960's that was about to disappear when the set was recorded. Liner notes are by New York Times writer and Rolling Stone contributor Anthony DeCurtis. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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