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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 16 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. TWIST UPTOWN IN STEREO - HOW VILE!
           From: Mick Patrick 
      3. Re: Crystals - Gee Whiz
           From: Phil Chapman 
      4. Ugly Things # 19
           From: Bobby Lloyd 
      5. GG Radio at Live 365/Girls Will Be Girls Vol. 1
           From: Will Stos 
      6. Re: TWIST UPTOWN IN STEREO - HOW VILE!
           From: james botticelli 
      7. Polyphonic Spree
           From: Paul Payton 
      8. Re: Crystals - Gee Whiz - Fake stereo Stinks
           From: Billy G Spradlin 
      9. Re: American Studios
           From: Will George 
     10. Fake endings
           From: Dan Hughes 
     11. BYRDS Preflyte Sessions Question
           From: Matthew Kaplan 
     12. Re: BYRDS Preflyte Sessions Question
           From: Mikey 
     13. The Sixties Syndicate!!!!
           From: miss66shakes 
     14. Re: Fake endings
           From: Mikey 
     15. Re: BYRDS Preflyte Sessions Question
           From: Chris Mondia 
     16. American Studios
           From: Stuffed Animal 


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Message: 1
   Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 23:07:10 +0100
   From: Mick Patrick 
Subject: TWIST UPTOWN IN STEREO - HOW VILE!

Phil wrote:
> ...my copy (of "Twist Uptown") is probably a record club issue. The label 
> is Philles, cat.no. DT-90722 mfd. by Capitol Records inc. I notice the 
> same "Electronically Enhanced...." banner is on the pic of the LP on John
> Rausch's Crystals page: http://members.tripod.com/~rauschj/the_crystals.htm
> Does anyone have a decent mono copy?

Of course. I'll bring it with me on Monday, shall I? "Gee Whiz" is also on
the Crystals' "Sing The Greatest Hits, Volume 1" LP (Philles 4003). 'Spose 
you want me to bring that too. This must be a first, Mr Chapman making a 
special request for a track in (((((MONO))))). :-)

MICK PATRICK




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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 20:28:59 -0000 From: Phil Chapman Subject: Re: Crystals - Gee Whiz billy spradlin wrote: > I always thought "Twist Uptown" was issued in mono only. I bet > Spector had a fit when he heard what the Capitol record club > did to his mono masters with the "Screw-O-Phonic" process. Hi Billy, I don't know, my copy is probably a record club issue? The label is Philles, cat.no. DT-90722 mfd. by Capitol Records inc. I notice the same "Electronically Enhanced...." banner is on the pic of the LP on John Rausch's Crystals page: http://members.tripod.com/~rauschj/the_crystals.htm Does anyone have a decent mono copy? Phil PS - Great vocal from a 16 yr.old Lala Brooks! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:21:19 EDT From: Bobby Lloyd Subject: Ugly Things # 19 Phil Milstein writ: > The latest issue of Ugly Things features an amazing cover interview > with Kim, reviewing his entire career chronologically via name-dropping > anecdotes. Must reading for any fan of his music and/or his schtick. In > the unlikely event that your local grocer fails to carry UT, visit > http://www.ugly-things.com/current.html for ordering information. Unfortunately the "current" issue is sold out at ugly-things.com., so check your grocer. Speaking of Kim "Biff King" Fowley, someone asked for Kim stories a while back: He had contacted The Skeletons' bassist Lou Whitney years ago about covering The Skeletons' "Trans Am" with The B-52's, but their guitarist died soon thereafter and the project was aborted. Then a couple of years later out of the blue Lou gets a call from Kim asking if The Skeletons were from Kansas. "I had a dream last night that the next big thing is going to come from Kansas!!" "Uh, no", responded Lou, "We're from Missouri." "Okay. Thanks." blh p.s. By the way, your book happened on a most satisfactory level, Mr. Sinclair. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 23:43:48 -0000 From: Will Stos Subject: GG Radio at Live 365/Girls Will Be Girls Vol. 1 Hi Spectropoppers, First I have to say thank you to Billy Spradlin for the wonderful girl group net radio station I've been listening to non-stop since I found it! I'm quite slow about computer things, so even though I knew it existed, my PC didn't have a high enough band-width to listen to it. It's introduced me to a bunch of new artists with some really nice songs. And, it has also my head buzzing about the story behind some of these singers. So, once again I bow to the group's collective knowledge: "Chains" by the Sugar Cakes - Is this group the same as Baby Jane and the Rockabyes? The lead sounds very familiar, and there can't be too many singers with such a distinct sound, right? "Ya Gotta Take A Chance" by the Bonnets - Michael Kelly (aka Doc Rock) introduced me to this song several years ago and I've wanted a clean copy ever since. The one posted to the station sounds crystal clear - where can I find it on CD? ******* Next up, I'm also probably the last person on this mailing list who loves girl groups to get Girls Will Be Girls Vol. 1. As usual, Mick Patrick and Malcolm Baumgart have put together a fantastic collection with liner notes I devoured. But, not much was shared about the Jet Set - produced by Teddy Vann. This song has me more excited about a girl group than I have been in a long, long time. Mick, were you holding out on us? Do you know anymore? Or, if not, does anyone collect or know a lot about Teddy Vann stuff? What was the flip of this record? Was it any good? Did they record anything else? It was soooo good I want more! will : ) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 19:36:30 -0400 From: james botticelli Subject: Re: TWIST UPTOWN IN STEREO - HOW VILE! Mick Patrick wrote: > "Gee Whiz" is also on the Crystals' "Sing The Greatest Hits, > Volume 1" LP (Philles 4003). 'Spose you want me to bring that > too. This must be a first, Mr Chapman making a special request > for a track in (((((MONO))))). :-) A friend recently made me a CD from who knows what sources of several of the Phil Spector hits and it is actually in Stereo. It does not sound "Electronically Enhanced For" but like the real thing. I was surprised to get it and my friend was not able to share much information about it other than it is stereo. Anyone know anything about these recordings? -- Jimmy Botticelli Taking The E-Z...Way Out! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 03:03:45 -0400 From: Paul Payton Subject: Polyphonic Spree Beatle Bob, thanks for http://www.thepolyphonicspree.com/main.html Seems they're coming to northern NJ/NYC this month; will try to catch them. I got into the site, but couldn't find any music samples except for the repeating four-bar background. There were four (count 'em) pages of mostly rave reviews, however. (Any Spectropoppers thinking about seeing them at Maxwell's 6/26 or at the free show in Fords, NJ, please contact me off-list. Not sure which I'll be able to get to.) Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 23:59:51 -0000 From: Billy G Spradlin Subject: Re: Crystals - Gee Whiz - Fake stereo Stinks I dont know if Capitol pressed mono retail copies of "Twist Uptown" or not. They might have made Duophonic pressings only for thier record club. BTW heres the LP on Ebay, some nice label scans, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=886178563 And here's more info on that LP via Eric Sweenor's nice "Wall of Sound" page. http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7019/wallofsound/phlp4000.html I remember reading (in Goldmine or a Web site?) that the Capitol record club version of the Ronettes "Presenting.." in Stereo is more desirable than the retail version because its pressed on better vinyl, better mastered ....something like that! The only Philles LP's I have are two stereo Righteous Brothers LP - which are not that great sounding. It's kinda a shame that Spector had to get the same lousy Duophonic treatment that Brian Wilson, The Beatles, Sinatra and so many other Capitol/EMI artists did. One of the worst sounding stereo effects I have heard, sounds terrible on headphones, and there's no way you can reduce it back to pure mono. Its basically a split second delay between channels with EQ accentuating the bass on the left - treble on the right. Sometimes Crapitol even added extra echo that made it really nasty sounding (check out - no don't check out "I Feel Fine" from "Beatles 65"). Billy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 09:23:43 EDT From: Will George Subject: Re: American Studios > How about Merrilee Rush's "Angel Of The Morning" and the album of > the same name, produced by Tommy Cogbill and Chips Moman, which > includes some other great Dan Penn, Chip Taylor, Joe South and > Donna Weiss songs? And what about the Box Tops? > dont forget "Keep On Dancing" by The Gentrys....the song > with the best all time fade out and back in of all time!!! Thanks for the suggestions. I'll look them up. I don't know anything about the Gentrys. Is there an album or just this one cut? What is the style? I recall seeing a version of Neil Young's Cinamon Girl with their name on it. Someone else informed me privately about a Dionne Warwick LP recorded there as well. Does anyone have any info on that? Bill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:35:46 -0500 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Fake endings Mikey sez, >don't forget "Keep On Dancing" by The Gentrys....the song >with the best all time fade out and back in of all time!!! Well, that and the Contours' "Do You Love Me". Both of those songs embarrassed me more than once when, as a DJ in the 60's, I started talking at the 'end', only to have the songs come blasting back at me and drowning me out.... --Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:25:48 EDT From: Matthew Kaplan Subject: BYRDS Preflyte Sessions Question I ask the following question naively, I'm under the impression that most if not all of the Byrds albums on Columbia included usual crew of LA studio musicians, that they sang their own songs but often didn't perform on their records other than lead guitar and the like. Does that mean that the "The Preflyte Sessions" are the only released recordings of the Byrds actually playing as a group in the studio as a band? Another question is, is all of the material that appears on the Poptones version of Preflyte included on the Sundazed double disc? Matthew Kaplan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:34:23 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: BYRDS Preflyte Sessions Question Matthew Kaplan: > I'm under the impression that most if not all of the Byrds albums > on Columbia included usual crew of LA studio musicians, that > they sang their own songs but often didn't perform on their records > other than lead guitar and the like. Does that mean that the "The > Preflyte Sessions" are> the only released recordings of the Byrds > actually playing as a> group in the studio as a band? Well, Matt, not really. Even tho Terry Melcher used the LA guys on some of the recordings, it wasnt exclusive like he did with other bands. I believe Roger M and David C played on most of the tracks along with the session guys. Hal Blaine did some of the drum tracks, I'm pretty sure he did "Mr Tamborine Man" and "Turn Turn Turn". But The Byrds, in general, did play on probably 80% of their records. > Another question is, is all of the material that appears on the > Poptones version of Preflyte included on the Sundazed double disc? I have to think so, the Sundazed disk is a whopping 40 tracks!!!! Your Friend, Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:58:47 -0000 From: miss66shakes Subject: The Sixties Syndicate!!!! Hey All, Just in case you're interested check out... "The Sixties Syndicate!" The Official West Coast 60's Scene Correspondence Group... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sixtiessyndicate/ CIAO! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:37:55 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Fake endings Dan Hughes: > Mikey sez, > >don't forget "Keep On Dancing" by The Gentrys....the song > >with the best all time fade out and back in of all time!!! > Well, that and the Contours' "Do You Love Me". Both of those songs > embarrassed me more than once when, as a DJ in the 60's, I started > talking at the 'end', only to have the songs come blasting back at > me and drowning me out.... > > --Dan Sorry that happened Dan!!! Actually, The Gentrys track is unique because it modulates UP just before the fade out. When the snare drum kicks in, the song is a key higher and really gets the energy going!! Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 16:36:15 -0000 From: Chris Mondia Subject: Re: BYRDS Preflyte Sessions Question Matthew Kaplan wrote: > I ask the following question naively, I'm under the impression > that most if not all of the Byrds albums on Columbia included > usual crew of LA studio musicians, that they sang their own songs > but often didn't perform on their records other than lead guitar > and the like. Does that mean that the "The Preflyte Sessions" are > the only released recordings of the Byrds actually playing as a > group in the studio as a band? > Another question is, is all of the material that appears on the > Poptones version of Preflyte included on the Sundazed double disc? Actually, the Byrds always played on their own records. It was only on the "Mr. Tambourine Man" session (and whatever else was recorded on that date) that session musicians were used along with McGuinn's 12-string and the group's harmonies. After that, the Byrds played all the basic instrumentation. They did use many session musicians to augment their recordings, though, as most groups did and still do. Yes, the entire contents of the Preflyte LP are on the Sundazed set. Chris Mondia -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 17:14:45 +0000 From: Stuffed Animal Subject: American Studios Don't forget Petula Clark's wonderful MEMPHIS album and Dionne Warwick's SOULFUL collection. By the way, anybody who's never heard Brenda Lee's finest LP collection, MEMPHIS PORTRAIT . . . do yourself a favor! Stuffed Animal -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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