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Spectropop - Digest Number 502



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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
                  http://www.spectropop.com/Jamie.htm
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There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Kingsley Abbott Pet Sounds book
           From: richard hattersley 
      2. HONEY Redux
           From: Jimmy Crescitelli 
      3. Lee Hazlewood Documentary
           From: finalrinse 
      4. Stones; "Recommends"; death songs; more
           From: Paul Payton 
      5. "Grace of My Heart" on UK TV!
           From: Ian Slater 
      6. Re: Jonathan King
           From: Ian Slater 
      7. RE: HONEY Redux
           From: Keith Beach 
      8. Re: Jonathan King
           From: Mark Frumento 
      9. RE: HONEY Redux
           From: simon white 
     10. Lee Hazlewood Documentary
           From: Dan Hughes
     11. Lee Hazlewood Influence
           From: Patrick Rands 
     12. death songs; womb; more poppy family
           From: Patrick Rands 
     13. Re: Polyphonic Spree
           From: beatle bob 
     14. Mark Eric's Where Do The Girls of Summer Go? stuck in my head...
           From: Harold Oxborough
     15. Heartbreak Hotel authorship
           From: Phil Milstein 
     16. Re: Jonathan King
           From: Norman 
     17. Mark Eric's Where Do The Girls of Summer Go? stuck in my head...
           From: Harold Oxborough 
     18. Hazlewood doc.
           From: Phil Milstein 


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Message: 1
   Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 23:32:15 +0000
   From: richard hattersley 
Subject: Kingsley Abbott Pet Sounds book

I have just finished Kingsley's Pet Sounds book.
I found it very interesting. I guess it's the first book about 
Pet Sounds isn't it?
That's surprising.
anyway, good job Kingsley

Richard Hattersley
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/r.hatts/



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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 21:29:51 EDT From: Jimmy Crescitelli Subject: HONEY Redux LOL you guys!! A "Honey" support group! I recall Jack's reference to the Smothers Brothers take-off... I think the country sighed a collective sigh of relief when somebody finally skewered that song... it sorta freaked me out to think that I could come home from school and find that the angels might have come for whoever had been in the house that afternoon - namely Mom. OY!!!!! (I wonder if they were the same angels who had come for Mary's Mom in "I Can Never Go Home Anymore?") -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 02:54:56 -0000 From: finalrinse Subject: Lee Hazlewood Documentary I'm making a documentary with and about Lee Hazlewood. I'd like to get suggestions of artists past and present to interview regarding the great man... Who are the current folk out there who you think (or know) have been influenced by Lee? Which old timers would you most like to hear from in this film? Ideas and information I use will receive a big thank you in the credits. Thanx for you ideas and interest! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 00:24:17 -0400 From: Paul Payton Subject: Stones; "Recommends"; death songs; more Beatle Bob: I click where it says to launch http://www.thepolyphonicspree.com, but all I get is a repeat of the "start" page. Any help, please? (Your description sounds pretty cool....) Nice to see the Jonathan King discussion; I know very little about him except that the corporate statement of purpose he filed when launching UK Records was brillianbt: "The purpose of this company is to have fun and make money." Works for me! Simon White notes: > [T]he likes of The Stones probably turned more people ON to > black R'n'B than off it. I think you're right, Simon, and in the US as well; as I remember, even Little Richard, in noting Pat Boone's whitebread covers of Tutti Frutti, etc., is said to have pointed out that Boone exposed people to music they probably would not have heard otherwise, serving as a "point of entry" for their discovery. And say what we will about the age and physical condition of the Stones - and some other survivors who are still out there working - the fact that they're still at it and trying to put new material in front of people counts with me. Not being a Brit, however, I know nothing of the implications of knighthood, nor the other politics cited by Norman. As I view it from this shore, however, knighthood hasn't seemed to hurt Sir Paul. Team, thanks for http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/recommends.html. Will appropriate contemporary artists be welcome as well? Not just copyists of the sounds, but artists with roots in Spectropop music but whose music has added other dimensions? Re: duplicated group names - you probably already know that in addition to "our" Crystals, there was a male doo-wop group in the 50's of the same name, as well as an instrumental group on Indigo in the early 60's. "Our" Crystals definitely win, although the instrumental Crystals' "Dreams and Wishes" is kinda pretty. Re: "Honey," "Shannon," "Patches" (C. Carter and D. Lee), "Last Kiss," "Tell Laura I Love Her," "Teen Angel," etc. - the tragedy songs are just amazing. I think they are guilty pleasures - or guilty tragedies - what makes one person cry in sadness makes another scream in agony. (Sorry, but "Honey" goes into the "agony" column; "Tell Laura I Love Her" still nails me, though). But if you want a death song that'll truly transcend, find Lincoln Fig & the Dates' "Way Up," an uptempo doo-wop record from the late 50's whose opening lyrics are: "My baby l ives / way up in the sky She kicked the bucket / she died." And it doesn't sound like ol' Linc is kidding, either! I've got www.radio192.nl on right now, by the way - thanks for the turn on. Is there an English translation page? It's very strange to hear Top 40 formatics in Dutch, not to mention Yes segued into Bobby Rydell! And welcome to the new correspondants! Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:38:44 -0700 From: Ian Slater Subject: "Grace of My Heart" on UK TV! The 1996 film based on the Brill Building in the early - mid 60s is scheduled to be shown on ITV from 11.45pm to 1.55am on Monday next (17 June). This has been discussed several times on Spectropop before. I think it is a wonderful film, full of great original music with a strong 1960s flavour. The soundtrack CD (MCAD 11554) is a knockout, although it doesn't entirely replicate what's in the film, my favourites being the 3 girl group songs performed by For Real (but mimed by actresses on the film) and the Williams Brothers' beautiful country ballad "Love Doesn't Ever Fail Us", but there are no duds at all. Leading characters are VERY loosely based on Carole King, Phil Spector, Brian Wilson etc. but the film is clearly meant to be an enjoyable portrait of the era, not autobiographical. I recommend all UK Spectropoppers, who haven't already seen it, to watch or video it. But check first that it is on at that time in your region, and that the schedules don't get changed at the last minute! Ian Slater -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:11:59 -0700 From: Ian Slater Subject: Re: Jonathan King Will wrote: "Thanks for the info Ian. Still being quite green behind the ears compared to most of this group when it comes to 60s/70s music, I had never really heard of Jonathan King before this week, when I found and enjoyed two of his female vocal productions, the Piglets' "Johnny Reggae", and now the Angelettes' "Don't Let Him Touch You". The only thing I seem to remember being said about him was that you pretty much either loved his work or hated it. For better or for worse, I love what I heard so far. Any recoMmendations of other choice cuts? Being a girl-group-a-holic, female vocal cuts would be my first choice : )" Sorry Will but I'm no authority on Jonathan King. I recall him as a flamboyant character who deliberately cultivated a love-hate image, hence the sarky tone of my previous e-mail. He was a major UK producer in the mid/late 60s and 70s with his own big hit "Everyone's Gone to the Moon", and a TV celebrity - I especially enjoyed his 1980s TV series "Entertainment USA" in which he visited various US cities and gave us an a portrait of city life and the local music scene. My quote, refering to a group being the product his own over-fertile imagination, was his reference to the Piglets. His web-site is at http://www.kingofhits.com/ and a Search engine like Google will produce many relevant hits as well as, sadly, many that relate to his recent conviction for child abuse. His web-site refers to an 8CD box set of his work. I don't recall much in the classic girl-group vein from him - I too would be interested to hear of any I may have missed. Can anyone out there help us? Ian Slater -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:04:26 +0100 From: Keith Beach Subject: RE: HONEY Redux Jimmy: > (I wonder if they were the same angels who had come for Mary's > Mom in "I Can Never Go Home Anymore?") Something I never really understood on this track...did she really run away, causing her Mom to become "...so lonely in the end, the angels picked her for their friend"? If so, what was the bit about "..I forgot that boy right away, instead I remember being tucked in bed..", I assumed she'd thought twice about running away? Bewildered Keith Beach -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:15:30 -0400 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Re: Jonathan King > Nice to see the Jonathan King discussion; I've never heard of any girl group productions by Jonathan King.... I know him as a solo performer and Genesis' producer. Besides the oft covered "Everyone's Gone to the Moon" my favorite JK song is "Flirt". He's songs always reminded me of Freddie and the Dreamers with a bit of intellect. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 12:36:25 +0100 From: simon white Subject: RE: HONEY Redux Keith Beach wrote: > If so, what was the bit > about "..I forgot that boy right away, instead I remember being > tucked in bed..", I assumed she'd thought twice about running away? Maybe she ran away and got tucked up in someone else's bed ? Twice. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:24:16 -0500 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Lee Hazlewood Documentary Lee produced an album in 1968 (?) or so called DREAMS AND IMAGES, by Arthur Lee Harper (Just "Arthur" on the album). Soft, wispy songs with flutes and strings, much like Donovan was doing then. It was on the LHI label and sold about five copies. Harper was probably still in high school then; I know he was at a junior college (in San Jose I think) a couple of years later. (I corresponded with him briefly - he had written a letter to HIT PARADER magazine, asking for opinions on his album, and I took him up on his request). Harper is still an ASCAP member, and I'm sure he has some wonderful stories about those days. I'd love to hear his take on working with Lee Hazlewood. Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:41:02 -0400 From: Patrick Rands Subject: Lee Hazlewood Influence There's a Lee Hazlewood tribute cd with modern artists including Saint Etienne. I don't have it, and only came across it mentioned online, but I'm sure there is a way to get a hold of it and get an idea of who is influenced. Also, Holly Golightly did an incredible rendition of Sand. The single came in an envelope which made it looked like she mailed it directly to you - brillianT!! I myself tried my hand at recording a cover of The Girls of Paris, destroying it completely. It sort of ended up being punk polka lounge......The tape has since been shuffled into oblivion for that day it suddenly appears again and I can add the necessary female backing vocals :) :Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:48:15 -0400 From: Patrick Rands Subject: death songs; womb; more poppy family Speaking of Death Songs, has anybody ever heard the obscure album by the 60s band Womb?? They have this one 15 minute track called the Happy Egotist, which is a blow by blow account of a gruesome car wreck, complete with female singer moaning about her own death.....pretty sick stuff! Anybody else ever become obsessed with the Poppy Family??? I've really been getting into their Sound and Theory, and would love to learn more about them, and their way of life. It's almost like the missing link between the downer Monkees and 80s band Opal or Mazzy Star.... and that is simplfying it! I like how everything in life is symbolic: City=Death, Destruction; Country=Growth, Freedom; Shadows are what you make of them....etc.....Anything to add perspective to this interesting group, who combine many threads we've been discussing recently....death, electric sitars, etc........? Also if there are any hidden B-sides i should hunt down please do tell, I seem to remember Bubblegum is the Naked Truth mentioning a few...... :Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:06:43 +0000 From: beatle bob Subject: Re: Polyphonic Spree Country Paul, Best way to pull up the Polyphonic Spree website is to just type in their name on the search mode and it will bring you to a descrition of their official site and just press and go from there. I too had problems getting their site up by searching their www.thepolyphonicspree.com mode; which when you pressed the click to start it remained on the same page. Good Luck, Beatle Bob -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:33:35 -0700 From: Harold Coxborough Subject: Mark Eric's Where Do The Girls of Summer Go? stuck in my head... Hi Everyone! This is my first time posting to the group and I just want to thank all of you for the wealth of information that is contributed. Your posts are truly very knowledgable and have really taken me back to my yesterdays. This particular song zooms me back instantly even though I had never heard it before. Anyone else have this happen to them? So much so that I have a small problem now which is starting to grow because of my own impatience. I was able to hear the first part of Mark Eric's "Where Do The Girls of Summer Go?" awhile back and it's driving me crazy trying to find it so I can hear the rest of it. I just gotta know where they go! Does anyone here have this? I know his real name was Mark Eric Malmborg and he worked as an actor in Hollywood. I have also heard he has started to perform again in the Los Angeles area. Does anyone have any information on his album "A Midsummer's Day Dream"? I would really love to get a CDR of the record if someone is interested in striking up an offer but just hearing the whole song will be cool. Thanks, Harold Oxborough -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:23:11 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Heartbreak Hotel authorship Apologies for being a bit off-topic here, but not so much so that one of you (at least) might not be able to help: I believe it's been fairly well-established that Elvis Presley's writing credit on "Heartbreak Hotel" was part of a pay-for-play deal, a not-uncommon event in the record industry. But I still wonder about the contributions of the remaining two names in that credit, Mae Boren (sp?) Axton and Tommy Durden. Axton has always been spoken of vernacularly as "the writer of 'Heartbreak Hotel'", while Durden, as far as I know, has scarcely been spoken of at all. This leaves me curious as to who actually did what on that song. I imagine it's already been researched, and so my question is whether any of you know the results of that research, or where else I might look to find them. Phil Milstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 06:22:29 +0930 From: Norman Subject: Re: Jonathan King Johnny Reggae by the Piglets. Depending on which issue one has on their shelf. (My issues are Australian). The original pressing on Bell black label (BLL-9746) has the credits Produced and directed by Jonathan King. On the latter Bell silver label (2008 007) they expand "Conceived, Created, Produced & Directed by Jonathan King". Apparently, Wendy Richard(s) only got paid a fee for her contribution to the recording. She can be heard, of course, on Mike Sarne's "Come Outside". She later became known from her roles in 'Are You Being Served' and 'Eastenders' on British TV. There must be a compilation of Jonathan King's output available because I have heard quite a few played on our local community station. On the flip side of his version of "Una Paloma Blanca" Mr King explains his UK Records label with such mentions as Genesis, Bay City Rollers, 10cc. I believe he also got the rights to 'The Rocky Horror Show' before it became the success it did. Norman -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 21:10:05 -0000 From: Harold Oxborough Subject: Mark Eric's Where Do The Girls of Summer Go? stuck in my head... Hi Everyone! This is my first time posting to the group and I just want to thank all of you for the wealth of information that is contributed. Your posts are truly very knowledgable and have really taken me back to my yesterdays. This particular song zooms me back instantly even though I had never heard it before. Anyone else have this happen to them? So much so that I have a small problem now which is starting to grow because of my own impatience. I was able to hear the first part of Mark Eric's "Where Do The Girls of Summer Go?" awhile back and it's driving me crazy trying to find it so I can hear the rest of it. I just gotta know where they go! Does anyone here have this? I know his real name was Mark Eric Malmborg and he worked as an actor in Hollywood. I have also heard he has started to perform again in the Los Angeles area. Does anyone have any information on his album "A Midsummer's Day Dream"? I would really love to get a CDR of the record if someone is interested in striking up an offer but just hearing the whole song will be cool. Thanks, Harold Oxborough -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 16:49:49 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Hazlewood doc. to finalrinse: I'd love to find out more about LHI-1, Ann-Margret's monumental double-A-side 45 "You Turned My Head Around"/"It's A Nice World To Visit (But Not To Live In)", produced and I believe written by LH.Surprisingly little-known, the record is one of his finest achievements, and a welcome contrast to their duets album The Cowboy And The Lady, on which her style was so ill-suited to the material. If you could get Lee, AM or any of the musicians who played on it to discuss that session, it'd be most welcome. Phil Milstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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