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Spectropop - Digest Number 497

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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)

There are 7 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Lightnin' in these Thunder Thighs
           From: Stewart Mason 
      2. Re: Kenny Laguna; Fluffy; Molly; Earl Sink, David Box & KDAV
           From: Paul Payton 
      3. Queen Anne's Lace
           From: laughingmood 
      4. Re: "Lovers" / Brian W.
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
      5. Re: Roger Nichols
           From: Jeffrey Glenn 
      6. Re: "Snow Queen"
           From: Jeffrey Glenn 
      7. Re: Kenny Laguna
           From: Warren Cosford 


Message: 1
   Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 23:31:53 -0400
   From: Stewart Mason 
Subject: Lightnin' in these Thunder Thighs

Phil Milstein wrote:
> Simon White wrote:
> On the subject of later girl sounds, can I just ask what we know collectively > about The Pearls on Bell in the U.K ? Also maybe Thunder Thighs [surely the 
> best girl group name ever]. There was a Thunder Thighs credited for backing 
> vocals on Lou Reed's Transformer album (from c.1973).

I heard from a couple of sources that Helen Terry, who was the de facto
fifth member of Culture Club during the COLOUR BY NUMBERS years -- that's
her on "Church of the Poison Mind," for example -- was a Thunder Thigh, but
I've never seen any confirmation of this. A discography at claims that their names
were Karen Friedman, Dari Lalou and Casey Synge, who all have a few
individual and collective backing vocal credits on Their
single "Central Park Arrest" sounds like a hoot!

With apologies to Saffire the Uppity Blues Women for stealing their song title for the subject line.

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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 00:25:54 -0400 From: Paul Payton Subject: Re: Kenny Laguna; Fluffy; Molly; Earl Sink, David Box & KDAV Mark Frumento asks what Kenny Laguna is like. Check Glenn Jones' remarkable interview with him at I met him for two seconds once when Joan Jett was just starting out solo, but from that brief impression and Jonesy's interview, I'd say you're spot on. Jimmy C, "Fluffy" is a lost dog. Gloria can't sing (on purpose). The song's chorus has a beautiful melody. The combination is deadly. On a personal note, WFMU was playing it the morning my mother passed on; talk about a catharsis! I believe it's on the out-of-print Rhino LP, "World's Worst Records." Or call someone off the wall at WFMU and request it; Hova, Saturday afternoon 3-5pm ET, is a likely candidate! And if Bobby Goldsboro's "Honey" moves you, may I suggest an earlier (and IMHO much better) Goldsboro song? "Molly," on Laurie, his first hit, still dampens my eyes. Less sachharine, more direct. (He comes home blind from the war.) Mikey, thanks for the Earl Sink lead. There was also another young singer from Lubbock, David Box, who filled those shoes briefly; he also had several singles on his own, including a hit in the early 60's in several markets (including Buffalo, where Joey Reynolds played it) called "Little Lonely Summer Girl" on Jo-Ed. (Check it out if you can find it - it's Holly-meets-Orbison, and darn good.) Sadly, David Box also died in a small plane crash very early in his 20's. I somehow navigated to the web page with that info via Host and webmaster Bill Griggs is such a Holly fan that he moved from Connecticut to Lubbock just to be close to the source! He used to do a show at KDAV, which must be heard to be believed/appreciated. The station concentrates on 1947-1963, and stays credible as all getout (at least they were last I tuned in). The midday jock is the lead of the Velvets ("Tonight Could Be The Night"), Virgil Johnson! Their 9-mid weeknight jock, Jimmie Mac, was drummer for J. Frank Wilson & The Cavaliers, perpetrators of the "mortal" "Last Kiss." They also have a "softer side of the 50's and 60's" show Sunday nights 8-mid MT. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 05:35:19 -0000 From: laughingmood Subject: Queen Anne's Lace Anyone out there have this LP? Desperate to find it. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 12:03:50 +0100 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: Re: "Lovers" / Brian W. So happy to have solved John's age old Cover Girls problem!! But solve one and create more as others will now want to hear it! I had the good fortune to interview Ronnie S a few years back, and I made a point about asking her about 'Lovers' and its history. At first she didn't know the track I meant, but when I sang a few bars to her she immediately knew it (if you know my singing, you'd realise how amazing that was...). She said that she was pretty sure that it was one Phil had written by himself, and may even had been a sort of 'work in progess'. It rang true to me as it didn't quite have the finished hooky feel of any of his normal writing partnerships. Ronnie then sang a few bars back to me, transporting me back to those tender teen years when everything curled at the sound of her voice! Several of those Wall of Sound Vinyl sets were split by shops...I got the albums I wanted in a shop in Welling in Kent quite cheap, and they kindly gave me the box for them. I now keep all my originals in there with R Vol 2, Darlene etc. What you would nowadays call a result! Saw Brian Wilson last night at Nottingham. Fab! His voice is even better than January and he is hitting higher notes with even more confidence. Also very relaxed, happy and jiggy on stage, and even appearing to actually play the keyboard a few times! Concentrating and following the notes though not audible - probably not plugged in, but maybe next time... As well as being a GREAT band, all his musicians are really splendid people, who are all very happy to talk afterwards, especailly the Wondermint guys when it comes to obscure CD track details, covers etc. Following the footie (England 1 Argentina 0), even Brian was moved to shout about it.."You Guys Won!! You Won!!" They had all 'noticed' the fans as they got to Nottingham, as all around the concert hall was heaving with happy, drunken people before, during and after his show. Drummer Jim got a huge cheer when he appeared in the second half in an England shirt! Oh, the stuff of dreams....:-) Kingsley -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 07:40:03 -0700 From: Jeffrey Glenn Subject: Re: Roger Nichols And here's a couple more Roger Nichols covers: Always You (Tony Asher-Roger Nichols) - Linda Ball, Jerden 816: 1967, Produced by Asher-Nichols-Kaye, Arranged by Roger Nichols - This is the original version of the song better known in the version by The Sundowners, and it's great. The flip ("The End" - written by Ian Whitcomb) is also excellent. We've Only Just Begun (Paul Williams-Roger Nichols) - Freddie Allen, White Whale WW-345: 1970, Produced by Smokey Roberds & Eddie Biscoe, Arranged by Roger Nichols - This may be the original of the song - notice the Roger Nichols involvement - and it predates The Carpenters' version by several months. Good, but not as good as The Carpenters. And notice that Smokey Roberds coproduced this. I ran both Nichols and Roberds through BMI and ASCAP, and there was nothing there that made me think that they were the same person. But you never know... Let Me Be The One (Paul Williams-Roger Nichols) - Sharon Cash, A&M 1268: 1971, Produced by George Tobin, Arranged by Gene Page - A very good soul version of the Williams/Nichols standard arranged by one of L.A.'s finest. I Won't Last A Day Without You (Paul Williams-Roger Nichols) - Andy & David Williams, Kapp K-2179: 1972, Produced by Jackie Mills for Wednesday's Child Productions, Arranged & Conducted by Al Capps - This predates The Carpenters' hit version by a couple of years, and is excellent. This isn't on the new Andy & David Williams CD that was released on Varese this week. I Kept On Loving You (R. Nichols, P. Williams)/Out In The Country (R. Nichols, P. Williams) - Skin, Melba 6001: ?, Produced by Stan Farber, A-Side Arranged by Don McGinnes, B-Side Arranged by Al Capps - This one is a mystery that I borrowed from a friend (and haven't burned yet). Does anyone know about this one - date, who's in the group, etc? It's definitely an L.A. record from the names involved. And could this be the original version of "Out In The Country"? I can post any of these to musica (but give me an extra day or so for the Skin tracks). Jeff -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 07:59:21 -0700 From: Jeffrey Glenn Subject: Re: "Snow Queen" Bill Reed: > Instead, the lion's share of arrangments were done by > Nick DeCaro, who himself performs that little airy > filligree at the end of "Snow Queen," that prefigures > that same La-a-a-a-ah hook on Carpenters' "Close to > You" by more than a year. Closer to 3 1/2 years before The Carpenters, as this version of "Snow Queen" was originally issued at the beginning of 1967 as by the Roger Nichols trio (A&M 830). Jeff -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 14:38:03 -0400 From: Warren Cosford Subject: Re: Kenny Laguna > Now here's my question for anyone who knows Kenny or has met him: what's he > like? I ask this because I found the liner notes very entertaining. > Sometimes quite frank and even sarcastic, maybe even a tad bitter in places. > Maybe I'm getting the wrong impression but this is almost certainly an > interesting person? You must have missed my earlier posts. First listen to a recent interview with Kenny at You might hear something else....but to me he sounds anything BUT bitter or even burned out. Second... check: Warren Cosford -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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