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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 24 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Cellarful of Motown
           From: John Lester 
      2. Re: Roger Nichols songs
           From: Patrick Beckers 
      3. Re: The Chiffons' "So Much In Love"
           From: Mick Patrick 
      4. Cellarful of Motown
           From: simon white 
      5. Re: Ronnie does George
           From: Peter Lerner 
      6. Re: Canadian G
           From: Vincent Degiorgio 
      7. Patsy Gallant
           From: Radiopro 
      8. Peaches/Cover Girls/Nichols
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
      9. Re: Roger Nichols songs
           From: Ken Levine 
     10. Re: Roger Nichols songs
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     11. Roger Nichols Covers
           From: David Ponak 
     12. Re: Roger Nichols songs
           From: David Parkinson 
     13. Paul Williams/Roger NIchols
           From: Phil Chapman 
     14. re: Roger Nicholls songs
           From: matt howell 
     15. more on Hairspray
           From: Spector Collector 
     16. Chiffons' "So In Love"
           From: John Clemente 
     17. Re: more on Hairspray
           From: Phil Chapman 
     18. Roger Nichols songs
           From: laughingmood 
     19. The Ronettes' "Lovers"
           From: Mick Patrick 
     20. Re: Motown-Steve L.
           From: mikecee20187 
     21. Roger Nichols
           From: laughingmood 
     22. Re: The Ronettes' "Lovers"
           From: Phil Chapman 
     23. Mea culpa re: Grady; Canadians; Cindy Ellis; Legends; not MY Dad!
           From: Paul Payton 
     24. Re: Roger Nichols
           From: Dan Hughes 


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Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 10:15:01 +0100
   From: John Lester 
Subject: Cellarful of Motown

The Cellarful of Motown 2Cd is now out in the Uk....I have to say that I
think it is  wonderful.....it's mostly a collection of songs that have been
out in the public domain for some time but its at a price that everyone can
afford and its for us all to share. I appreciate that it's not for everyone
but if you like your Motown from the 60's, then this is for you.

Some 40 tracks that you will be hard pressed to beat on any album
whatsoever. A lot of work went into it and all the effort came from a love
of the music...and at the end of the day, that is what it is all about.

The Marvelettes track is a Gladys Horton track..full of strings and rattling
tambourines.....but I beg you all to please give the two tracks by the
Velvelettes a listen......

I know you will all rate Tammi's track more than any others but if my ladies
even get a mention, I will be happy.

John Lester



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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 11:30:03 +0200 From: Patrick Beckers Subject: Re: Roger Nichols songs Hi! I have only been on this list for two months and this is going to be my first post. First of all I must say, I really enjoy all the information that is passed on on this list. Here's my 2cents on the Roger Nichols question: Neighborhood - So Many People (R. Nichols/P. Williams) The American Breed - To Put Up With You (R. Nichols/P. Williams) The Four Fuller Brothers - Bitter Honey The Four King Cousins - Love So Fine (Roger Nichols/Tony Asher) The Four King Cousins - I Fell (Paul Williams/Roger Nichols) The First Edition - Only Me (Nichols/Williams) John Andrews Tartaglian - Poto Flavius (Roger Nichols) The Vogues - Just What I've Been Looking For (Nichols/Roberds) Schott - Our Time Has Come (Nichols/Williams) Herb Alpert - Treasure Of San Miguel (Roger Nichols) These are the ones I can think of and can find in my collection right now. The Parade - Kinda Wasted Without You (or maybe Nichols was in the Parade under a different name, Smokey Roberds, I can't quite figure that one out. The Small Circle Of Friends credits this song to Nichols/McLeod/Riopelle. But the Parade album credits it to Roberds/McLeod/Riopelle. And all the other songs on the Parade album that have a writing credit for Roberds have a distinct Roger Nichols feel. Welcome, You're In Love for example. Any insight from someone in the know.) My copy of the Small Circle Of Friends album (a German pressing) credits the song to Roberds/McLeod/Riopelle as well, so I think this is the correct songwriting credit. Smokey Roberds co-wrote several songs with McLeod and Margolin. One of the best songs they wrote together, in my opinion, is the b-side of the Smokey Roberds solo single (God's Fool being the A-side) on Epic (around '67/'68) Love Is The People's Choice, which is one amazing piece of sixties harmony soft-rock and could have easily been one of The Parade's finest efforts. Patrick Beckers Netherlands -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 11:12:05 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: The Chiffons' "So Much In Love" Hi, Original message from: Will Stos: > I think the one song from the Chiffons I don't have (well, > any songs that have been released anyway) would be "So > In Love" on Buddah in 1971. I've searched everywhere for > it but to no avail. Seeing how it's so obscure, I doubt > it would have found it's way onto cd, so I'm still > searching for the 45. Has anyone heard this? Is it a > decent cover of the Tymes' hit? Yes, it's that song, "So MUCH In Love", and it's a fabulous version. The single is impossible to find but that track is included on the CD "Mynd Excursions" (Sequel NEX CD 237), a great collection of Buddah and Kama Sutra tracks. The CD is deleted but should prove easier to locate than the single which, for some reason, seems to be the Chiffons' rarest. MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 11:41:43 +0100 From: simon white Subject: Cellarful of Motown John Lester wrote: > The Marvelettes track is a Gladys Horton track..full of strings and rattling > tambourines.....but I beg you all to please give the two tracks by the > Velvelettes a listen...... Not playing the devils advocado here but.... .....is it Gladys, John? It sounds like Wanda to me! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 13:24:36 +0100 From: Peter Lerner Subject: Re: Ronnie does George David (Spector Collector) mentions: > "At least three other as-yet-unreleased Ronnie Spector songs were > also recorded - 'You,' 'Lovely La-De-Day' (aka 'Loverly Laddy Day') > and 'I Love Him Like I Love My Very Life.' (The first release of > this song was under the title 'I Loved You Like I Love My Very Life' > by Carla Thomas in September 1970. Phil produced a version of the > song for Darlene Love a few years later, under the title 'I Loved > Him Like I Love My Very Life.') Ten slightly different takes of > 'I Love Him Like I Love My Very Life' exist on two 12" one-sided > Apple acetates that feature Harrison's distinctive slide guitar. Try also: Toni Wine's own recording of her song, from the LP "Orlando and Wine" (Toni Wine and Tony Orlando) released on Triad 1002 in 1984. This also includes a smoochy "Special kind of love" - rewrite of "Groovy" for the 1980s. Toni is a special kind of writer and singer - much under-rated. Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 05:58:27 -0700 From: Vincent Degiorgio Subject: Re: Canadian G Hi Vlad, Well, I think I may have even more for you on this... I am almost certain that one of the background singers in Peaches was a girl named Yohanna Van Der Kley. I worked with her on my Power label for almost eight years and she was a great singer. But I remember that give away. A neighbour kept using it as a gag, that I should sign them. Touche was supposed to be signed by Butterfly Records in LA, which did the very suggestively leaning St Tropez record and also released Denise McCann (my favourite and now, Mrs. Randy Bachman) and THP Orchestra and Grand Tour, which were all Canadian acts. I am almost certain that when GRT relased this record on a distributed label called Magnum, this being Touche, it featured a lead vocalist named Nancy Nash, who was from Vancouver. I am almost sure that Unidisc now owns the catalogue that Toulouse recorded, along with that of their producer/writer George Thurston. I think that's his name, it's probably wrong.. US ex-pat John Usry Jr. produced an all female disco band called Stratavarious. They had a hit "Lady" that was also released on Roulette in the US. Patsy actually recorded a song for an Italian label called Cam that London Records distributed in Canada called "It's Got To Be You" that Dwayne Ford also wrote. At one time, copies were going for $100 a pop. It is one of her best performances and I believe may have been in a film but I am not sure. Attic did the greatest hits, which I did a remix on, and she also last performed with a group called 2 Bigg as a background singer at a concert called Energy Rush in Toronto in 1994. She looked phenomenal as well. All this after her 1971 hit "Get That Ball"..also written by Dwayne Ford. In the same vein, and almost an identical look, London attempted to launch Caroline Bernier, who did a couple of mildly successful disco records for that label and Unidisc. She later had a disco awards show in Montreal. On the solo front, there were a number... Because of the number of Americans who sang on Canadian disco productions (Joyce Cobb on THP, The Duncan Sisters from Memphis on Grand Tour and their own album), it probably stands correct that France Joli who is played everyday to this day on New York radio was probably the biggest. There are an ocean of others like Voggue as "Dancin' The Night Away" was a monster worldwide hit, Geraldine Hunt's "Can't Fake The Feeling" was, but she was from St, Louis, and Carol Jiani, from Birmingham, England was a worldwide success with "Hit N Run Lover". I am almost sure that Gino Soccio used Canadians on his productions. He also produced Toronto based Karen Silver. Charity Brown used to be a regular at a place I frequented. Nice lady. Suzanne Steven really rings a bell, and my best memory of Patricia Dahlquist was that she had hits with an Abba cover "Bang A Boomerang" and a huge favourite of mine, "Keep Our Love Alive". Hope you'll all excuse this little diversion... Vince -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 09:37:07 -0400 From: Radiopro Subject: Patsy Gallant Hi Folks: I've been posting many of the Canadian Girl Group comments on Radiopro. Here's some more info on Patsy Gallant: Patsy Gallant's 'From New York to LA' earned a silver record in the UK, and she was named the #2 female vocalist of the year, behind Donna Summer. I saw Patsy about 3 years ago in Cannes. She has lived in Paris with her teenaged son (remember Duane Ford?) for many years, starring in Starmania. Starmania was Quebecer Luc Plamondon's first big musical. He has since followed up with The Hunchback of Notre Dame which was also hugh in Europe, and recently wrote a show based on Cinderella. Luc insists on using as many Canadian artists as possible, and has probably made more Quebecois into stars in France than the efforts of all the record companies combined. Celine Dion did an entire album of his songs (in French, of course) a couple of years ago. Regarding "NY" being a separist song, it was always interesting that Giles Vigneault, the writer of the original song, disowned the song in public, but his office was always phoning me to find out the most recent activities on it.... who said two faced? FYI, Gino Soccio works for Unidisc in Montreal, who just purchased the Attic masters, including Patsy's tracks. Al Mair Radiopro (TM) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 15:59:59 +0100 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: Peaches/Cover Girls/Nichols Oh, dear...Oh laudy! Should I own up to having an album by the Peaches trio in my collection (Igor threatens no supper...). In mitigation, I picked it up for a few of our English pennies in case it might by accident have something half decent on it. I should have trusted my first reaction to the duff posed cover of the three sisters (Maria, Johanna & Betty - originally from Holland bfore Toronto) who were in dresses just a tad too small for them, and toothy grins just a tad too big. Please be assured that the fifteen tracks on Realistic 50-8100 need lead to any sleepness nights of yearning by any 'Poppers... On the other hand, and returning to the 80s, you might like to look out for The Cover Girls 1987album "Show Me" (Fever Records SFS 004). Mostly 80s synth predictability save for one track "That Boy Of Mine" that re-creates '64 girlies sounds right from its 'boom-di-boom' intro. On a par with The Jodelles...forgive me if its been mentioned before.. Apologies for the 'unknown' credit on Sequel's Montanas' "Let's Ride" cover - It was before my time with them, and will be corrected, with luck, on Ripples 8. Isn't Nichols & his Small Circle original just faboo?? One of the very best soft sunshiney tracks of that period... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:54:02 -0700 From: Ken Levine Subject: Re: Roger Nichols songs I'm having a terrible time locating any Small Circle of Friends CD's. Anyone know where they're available?? Thanks. Ken -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2026 01:41:38 -0700 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re: Roger Nichols songs laughingmood: > I'm trying to compile a list of songs written by Roger Nichols > that were recorded by other artists other than himself and Paul > Williams. How about...... Troy Seals - "20 Miles From Home" (Nichols/Williams) Regards, Guy Lawrence. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 09:50:17 -0700 From: David Ponak Subject: Roger Nichols Covers Let's not forget Steve Lawrence doing "The Drifter." It's my favorite version. (So much so that I nicked the arrangement for my version.) I found it on a bootleg CD of Roger Nichols covers that I bought in Japan. There's also a version of "Somebody Waiting" by Eydie Gorme, and countless others. I'll bring it in tomorrow and copy the track listing. Last December, Universal music Japan issued a CD of the very rare publishing promo LP called "We've Only Just Begun: The Songs Of Roger Nichols & Paul Williams." It's got nicely produced demos from around 1970 with Paul W. on lead vocals and Roger on bass including "Out In The Country," "The Drifter", "Let Me Be The One," and several songs from the PW "Someday Man" LP. Varese Sarabande is planning to release an expanded version domestically this year. Universal Japan also reportedly just issued a CD (it was scheduled for May 20) called "The Roger Nichols/Paul Williams Songbook." I haven't seen the track listing or procured the CD, but I would presume it to be a collection of RN/PW covers from the UNI archives. Other covers that come to mind (pardon me if they've already been mentioned): To Put Up With You (versions by the Sandpipers and The American Breed...oh, and the Mello Cads..er....) Travelling Boy-Art Garfunkel Rainy Days And Mondays-Cracker Let Me Be The One-Matthew Sweet We've Only Just Begun-Grant Lee Buffalo (The last 3 from the 1994 Carpenters tribute CD "If I Were A Carpenter" We've Only Just Begun-Mark Lindsey The Drifter-90's cover from Japanese soft rock group "Springs" with female vocals Do You Really Have A Heart/The Pollution feat. Dobie Gray (there's also a version listed by Gary Puck from 1971, but I haven't heard it) Someday Man/The Monkees David Ponak A&R Manager, Domestic Releases Warner Special Products 3500 W. Olive, Suite 800 Burbank, CA 91505 Phone: (818) 953-7900, extension 276 Fax: (818) 953-7949 -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 11:09:31 -0700 From: David Parkinson Subject: Re: Roger Nichols songs Ken Levine: > I'm having a terrible time locating any Small Circle of Friends > CD's. Anyone know where they're available?? Thanks. I bought mine from that Comfort site that is linked to from Spectropop (somewhere on the Curt Boettcher page). Not cheap, but good service. Contact ohkura@mx14.freecom.ne.jp. David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 18:29:34 -0000 From: Phil Chapman Subject: Paul Williams/Roger NIchols Current talk of Paul Williams/Roger Nicholls reminded me that I once worked with Paul on some vocals and string sessions circa 1971 when I was assistant to Glyn Johns. I don't remember very much, other than Paul was a very nice guy, and I liked the songs, especially the Rachmaninoff adapted "Travelin' Boy". However, I did take rough mixes from the sessions, assuming that all the titles would eventually end up on albums, and never gave it another thought, until now. I don't know if these are even the final vocals, but if they're of interest to anyone, mail me offlist for a copy. Titles: "Travelin' Boy" "The Lady Is Waiting" "Something Worth Remembering" "Life Goes On" "Burning our Bridges" "I Saw A Rose" "Where Do I Go From Here" Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 11:37:53 -0700 From: matt howell Subject: re: Roger Nicholls songs Here is a link to the CD Now page for the limited edition CD of Roger Nicholls and the Small Circle of Friends. I hope this is what you're looking for: http://cdnow.com/switch/from=cr-9635397-1/target=buyweb_purchase/itemid=1493353 Matt Matthew J. Howell Northwest Evaluation Association Scoring & Reporting Services/Office Operations -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 19:25:43 +0000 From: Spector Collector Subject: more on Hairspray In preparing to see the new musical adaptation of "Hairspray" again before it leaves Seattle for Broadway (yes, I loved it that much), I discovered that the show has a Web site up and running already. It's the flashiest site I've *ever* seen, and I'd recommend checking it out even if just for its design alone, but in the "Songs" section, there are three tunes from the show that you can listen to online and get an idea of why I'm so excited about it. The singers aren't the same as those in the stage production, so these won't be the versions on the cast album, but I can't figure out how to download them. (Is there a way that I'm missing, or was it deliberately designed so that the songs can't be downloaded?) Anyway, here's the URL for the show; check it out and enjoy the music! http://www.hairsprayonbroadway.com/flash.php David A. Young -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 17:12:36 -0400 From: John Clemente Subject: Chiffons' "So In Love" Hello All, This message is in response to Will Stos. Hi, Will. I have never heard or seen a copy of The Chiffons' version of "So In Love". I honestly don't know whether or not the single was ever actually released. It seems that every time The Tokens switched labels, they took their masters with them. This is why the magnificent "Secret Love" LP is on their own B.T. Puppy label. When they contracted with Buddah, they released "So In Love", probably left over from the same sessions (1963-65) as the material on "Secret Love". The flip on the Buddah single is the ubiquitous "Strange, Strange Feeling", which The Tokens seemed to favor as a B-Side. Regards, John -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 21:13:06 -0000 From: Phil Chapman Subject: Re: more on Hairspray Spector Collector wrote: > In preparing to see the new musical adaptation of "Hairspray" > again before it leaves Seattle for Broadway (yes, I loved it > that much), I discovered that the show has a Web site up and > running already. > http://www.hairsprayonbroadway.com/flash.php Thanks David, that website is fun, and will be even better when all the 'coming soon' are complete....and WOW! - those three songs are GREAT, all shamelessly derivative, just up my boulevard, but, what the hell! - I can be a teenager again. Whoever sings lead has got Ronnie's "Oh oh oh oh..." just right. I'm booking my flight now:-) Phil PS - It is a (Macromedia) Flash website, with the audio integral. You can try running a sound recorder while playing the tunes (they're conveniently on repeat play). Presumably they are on release? Love the animated 45s. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 22:18:06 -0000 From: laughingmood Subject: Roger Nichols songs If you can find it, I'd recommend the Complete Roger Nichols & the Small Circle of Friends CD. It has all of the singles and B- sides along with the actual album. Worth the price. "Our Day Will Come" and "Let's Ride", unbelievable. I want to thank everyone who has responded to my request for Nichols related cover songs. I'm sure all of you who appreciate his music know how frustrating it is to have only two full albums of prime- Nichols material. These being, the "Small Circle" album, of course (which I personally feal is the best example of the soft pop genre as a whole), and related singles, and the Paul Williams album "Someday Man". That is what drove me to compile a list of songs from that golden period of '67-'70. The "We've Only Just Begun" demo album is amazing as well but being a demo album, it doesn't fill the need for that Bacharach/Wilson/Alpert sound that makes the other two LPs the masterpieces that they are (It's there, just not in such an overt way). The news that a possible Roger Nichols songbook CD is coming out is exciting especially considering that is what I was hoping to do eventually with the finished list. Something to listen to, to basically give me another Nichols album. The great think I've noticed about those Nichols tunes performed by other artists is that they almost always retain that Nichols feel. The horn in "Always You" by The American Breed and the Sundowners, for example. Anyway, I should hopefully have a full list soon and I will post it up here as soon as possible. Thanks again. Keep 'em coming! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 23:48:19 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: The Ronettes' "Lovers" Phil asked: > Do you know any more about the 'Ronettes' track "Lovers" which > came out on the Rare Masters album? The writer credits are > "unknown", but I assume it's another Spector/Wine/Levine tune - > it has the 'sound' of "Black Pearl", but unfinished. I would imagine that, when constructing a library of MP3s, it must be difficult to remember the original source of the music. And unlike an actual record or CD, an MP3 comes with no printed on information. You know, date of issue, name of songwriter, producer credits. Vital stuff for some folk, it seems. I guess this could explain why I was unable to locate the Ronettes' "Lovers" on either volume of the Phil Spector International label "Rare Masters" albums of 1976 when I went to look. To set the record straight, it was not until the release, five years later, of that label's "The Wall Of Sound" box set (WOS 001), that "Lovers" by the Ronettes was unleashed. It was featured on the group's "The Greatest Hits, Volume 11" (PSI 2335 233), one of nine LPs contained within said box. I remember that this album was subsequently made available as a 'stand alone' item, much to the chagrin of many who had already shelled out for the entire box to obtain it. Alas this track has yet to gain issue on a legal CD. I suspect it never will. Meanwhile, getting back to Ronnie & the gals' Colpix days: I recall Greg Shaw telling me donkeys years ago that he had witnessed Blondie perform a live version of the Ronettes' "He Did It". Greg cited this as proof of the existence of the Ronettes' 45 on Dimension, until I pointed out to him that the track was readily on the group's Colpix LP. Has ANYONE ever seen a copy of Dimension 1046?? Maybe one of our DeShannon experts? Jackie, of course, wrote the fab "He Did It". MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 22:33:54 -0000 From: mikecee20187 Subject: Re: Motown-Steve L. Mikey Writes: > Hmmm...Now, I wonder if "Poor Little Rich Girl" is the Steve > Lawrence song? Steves version is fabulous, but has never been > released on CD. Mike C. says it would be great to hear The Marvelettes sing this Goffin and King song, but I bet it isn't. Steve L.'s version WAS released on cd: "Carole King Masterpiece Vol. 2" Those A-Side records 'Legendary Songwriter Series'. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 23:13:42 -0000 From: laughingmood Subject: Roger Nichols Does anybody have any copies of these Roger Nichols songs? The Pastors- Someday Man (Nichols/Williams) Neighborhood - So Many People (R. Nichols/P. Williams) The Four Fuller Brothers - Bitter Honey The Four King Cousins - Love So Fine (Roger Nichols/Tony Asher) The Four King Cousins - I Fell (Paul Williams/Roger Nichols) The First Edition - Only Me (Nichols/Williams) John Andrews Tartaglian - Poto Flavius (Roger Nichols) Schott - Our Time Has Come (Nichols/Williams) Troy Seals - 20 Miles From Home (Nichols/Williams) Thanks in advance. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 23:20:27 -0000 From: Phil Chapman Subject: Re: The Ronettes' "Lovers" Mick Patrick observed: > I would imagine that, when constructing a library of MP3s, it must > be difficult to remember the original source of the music...... > To set the record straight, it was not until the release, five > years later, of that label's "The Wall Of Sound" box set (WOS 001), > that "Lovers" by the Ronettes was unleashed. It was featured on the > group's "The Greatest Hits, Volume 11" (PSI 2335 233), one of nine > LPs contained within said box. I remember that this album was > subsequently made available as a 'stand alone' item, much to the > chagrin of many who had already shelled out for the entire box to > obtain it. The Ronettes' Greatest Hits Vol 11!!! - if only:-) But yes, I do tend to feed on the actual sounds rather than the topical information. My analyst once suggested that I was trying to get in touch with the emotions of the original sessions. However, in this case, the only information supplied with the track was 'writer unknown'. Didn't know about the stand-alone release - it's a fickle business:-) Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 19:28:12 -0400 From: Paul Payton Subject: Mea culpa re: Grady; Canadians; Cindy Ellis; Legends; not MY Dad! First, a big mea culpa: It must have been late and my memory was faulty when I said I had stereo copies of Don Grady's Canterbury 45's. I went downstairs and delved into the collection, checking first my Don Grady's and then two I have by the New Wave. I obviously remembered wrong; none state "stereo" on the label; although the Don Grady 45's sound slightly "wider" in headphones than the New Wave ones, they are most probably mono from the sound of it - and the look of the low-grade stereo VU meter on the system. Interesting notes: both Grady 45's and the first by the New Wave, "Where Do We Go From Here," were arranged by Gene Page! The second New Wave 45, "Autre Fois," is the original French lyric to the song that became popular here as "Watch What Happens." Some of you probably knew this, but either I hadn't been aware or had forgotten. I do have the picture sleeves for both Grady 45's - same two pictures on each sleeve, but of course different song titles - and for the New Wave's first in a parallel format. All three sleeves are black & white; unfortunately, I don't have a scanner to post them, but contact me off line for a photocopy via snail mail. An entertaining trip through the Disques Merite site, aside from taxing my meager French comprehension, put me in mind of a Montreal (I believe) girl group called La Coeur d'une Generation, who had a French-Canadian hit c. 1970-71 called "Ton Nom" (Your Name). I have only one 45 on Gamma, the same label as Robert Charlebois (who's "Lindberg," a major Quebecois hit, I also have). Any info on this group? Re: The Allen Sisters - I have "Larry" on Shell. It got some US airplay; I never realized they were from Canada. And speaking of non-US hits, Laurie Records released Cindy Ellis' "Do You Think of Me?" around 1960, which was at least a medium-sized hit in New York. It was in German, with accompaniment apparently by Bert Kaempfert (same sound as Ivo Robic's "Morgen" - the falsetto soprano in particular, same as on his instrumental hit "Wonderland By Night"). Anyone know anything about this artist - or where to find out? While browsing, I cam across Kingley Abbott's liner notes to the Legends of Doo-Wop's CD on Ace (a/k/a The Florida Legends): http://216.15.202.119/MoreInfo/CDCHD824.html. Nice work, Mr. A! While I haven't heard the CD, I've seen them live twice; if you like the style, see these guys on stage - they're as good or better than new! Norman, I'm with you; Paul Petersen has done some fine things in his career, but I too run contrary to the seeming thrust of this list when I say that "My Dad" is definitely not one of them. (However, I do confess that I cry at Gloria Balsam's "Fluffy," no matter how much I try not to!) :-) Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 19:27:09 -0500 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Re: Roger Nichols Don't know if this helps, but I believe the song Someday Man was on the Holy Mackerel album? ---Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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