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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Touchey, Touchey, Feeley
           From: james botticelli 
      2. Re: Touchey, Touchey, Feeley
           From: Bob Rashkow 
      3. RE: Daughters Of Eve
           From: Roland 
      4. Re: Ricky Nelson/Kain Twins
           From: Mark Wirtz 
      5. RIP Sharon Sheeley, new music
           From: Paul Payton 
      6. ALPHA ZOE / MOOSE & PELICANS
           From: Don Underwood 
      7. Brian Wilson
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
      8. RE: Daughters Of Eve
           From: Jan Kristensen 
      9. Re: new music, molybdenum
           From: Patrick Rands 
     11. RE: Orpheus
           From: Phil Chapman 
     12. Re: Touchey, Touchey, Feeley
           From: James Botticelli 
     13. Re: ALPHA ZOE / MOOSE & PELICANS
           From: Phil Milstein 
     14. Re: ALPHA ZOE / MOOSE & PELICANS
           From: Mike Arcidiacono 
     15. Re: ALPHA ZOE / MOOSE & PELICANS
           From: Phil Milstein 
     16. Introduce myself...
           From: Bret Wheadon 
     17. Re: Touchey, Touchey, Feeley
           From: Martin Roberts 
     18. Re: Touchey, Touchey, Feeley
           From: Patrick Rands 
     19. Sandra King
           From: simon white 
     20. Re: Sandra King
           From: Martin Roberts 
     21. RE: DIANE RENAY
           From: Mick Patrick 
     22. A Happy Sappy Man in his Rubber Room
           From: Martin Roberts 
     23. Nino Tempo
           From: Bill Reed 
     24. Re: Orpheus
           From: Phil Chapman 
     25. Girl-Groups.Com
           From: Will Stos 


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Message: 1
   Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 19:56:01 -0400
   From: james botticelli 
Subject: Re: Touchey, Touchey, Feeley

Martin Roberts wrote:

> BUT...new stuff??  .....still can't bring myself to do it!
> Should I? 

Martin...you must sample some things on the Siesta label. They, 
of course, have a web site, but I'll be gull-danged'f I know what 
it is. I imagine your search engines function as well on the island 
as they do here on the main, so try http://www.google.com type in 
siesta records and see what gives. happy hunting...

-- 

Jimmy Botticelli
Taking The E-Z...Way Out!

[Admin note: try http://www.siesta.es/ingles/indexin.html ]



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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 01:54:17 -0000 From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: Touchey, Touchey, Feeley Martin Roberts wrote: > For a short while it looked like the world might be taken over > by folk known as Rashkow (I'm still not sure how to pronounce > it) - Happily, this never happened. But it sure looks like the > world of quality 60's pop is being taken over by Spectropoppers! You needn't worry, gang. I've never even WORKED in a record store and the only contributions I've made to the music world over the last 40 years are singing in a classical choir in Evanston, Ill., writing dramatic, verbose poetry tributes to the likes of John Hartford and George Harrison, and most recently learning the words to "Reflections of Charlie Brown" so I can sing it along with Rupert's People and mimick his great voice! Unlike my "distant relative" Rashkovsky, of course - BTW I tend to pronounce our Mutual Surname "Rash-COW", though many have said it as "Rash-KOE". The latter, however, I have decided is much less interesting and decidedly not as funny. (I used to have the opposite feeling.) Very sad to hear about Sharon Sheeley and learn what a great writer she was. "Poor Little Fool" is just about my favorite Rick Nelson song; that, Waitin' In School and Travelin' Man, not to mention all the wild stuff he got into toward the end of the sixties plus. Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 22:58:51 EDT From: Roland Subject: RE: Daughters Of Eve Here's a discography from the Borderline Books website: 45s: 1 He Cried/Don't Waste My Time (Spectra Sound 920) 1966 2 Symphony Of My Soul/Help Me Baby (USA 891) 1967 3 Stand By Me/Hey Lover (USA 1779) 1967/8 4 Social Tragedy/1000 Stars (Cadet 5600) 1968 NB: Also an unknown 45 on Destination. One of Chicago's top late sixties all girl groups. Compilation appearances have included: "Don't Waste My Time" Girls In The Garage, Vol. 1(CD) Girls In The Garage, Vol. 2(LP) Girls In The Garage, Vol. 4(LP) [Admin note: links to the Borderline Books' reference works can be found on the Spectropop side menu: '60s 70s Beat Psyche' http://www.spectropop.com/hpsyche1.html ] -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 23:31:42 EDT From: Mark Wirtz Subject: Re: Ricky Nelson/Kain Twins Hey, guys - any of you know who the back-up singers on the early Ricky Nelson records were? Was it the Jordanaires? Also - any of you remember the Kalin Twins - "When"? Did they make any other records? Finally, do any of you know the names of THE original Motown drummer/bass player? Ta, Mark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 23:58:41 -0400 From: Paul Payton Subject: RIP Sharon Sheeley, new music rickey412 wrote: > Hi! I was really happy to see, while surfing the net, this > website! Phil wrote: > Welcome to the asylum:-) More like the refuge. It sure is sad about Sharon Sheeley. Thanks for the great obits. Martin Roberts asks: > New stuff? Heck yes - support the people who are keeping the spirit alive. Freeman Carmack (on this list) turned me on to the Heavy Blinkers from Halifax, NS; I'm awaiting a CD in the mail. And finally (!) Alice Bierhorst, who I've mentioned here, has her album available with samples of three of the four best tracks at CD Baby http://www.cdbaby.com (I had this album in or next to my CD player almost constantly for the first 4 months I owned it - the best tracks are that good in my opinion.) Indeed, support new artists who are keeping the spirit alive - I know for a fact that some are living so marginally that they wouldn't have any web exposure except for generous chance-taking sites like CD Baby and a few others. And as for radio exposure, forget any hope of mainstream outlets.... And if it wasn't for new stuff, like the Franklin Castle product (including Linus of Hollywood's Beach-Boys-flavored works on vinyl!), I wouldn't have ordered the Margo Guryan reissue that's winging its way to me now. So what cool new stuff are all of you listening to? And is it by young artists, or original folks from the Spectropop era who are "still doing it"? Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 01:09:01 EDT From: Don Underwood Subject: ALPHA ZOE / MOOSE & PELICANS I have a few questions to pose to the only people that could possibly be able to deal with such matters, the S'pop community: 1. Who is Alpha Zoe who released "Da Doo Ron Ron" on Hit Records #65? No producer credits or date shown. Any info would be fun to have. 2. And what about Moose & the Pelicans doing "He's a Rebel" on Vanguard #VSD-35129, produed by Kenny Laguna? A genuine group, with that name?? 3. How did things like this get into my record collection? I have been reading the Spectropop site for a few months now, and I am convinced that if the level of arcane knowledge that the Poppers possess regarding the recording arts was applied to science, this would be the most dangerous group of individuals this side of El Quaeda. If anyone even knew that molybdenum is used in alloying stainless steels, for instance, and that moly' is present within millimeters of your fingers right now......... Last week I had no idea who Bonnie & the Treasures really were, and now I have an entire discography of related songs, released and not. Amazing, and great. Before I discovered Spectropop I kind of thought that my Girl Group collection was completed about 25 years ago when I found the last of the Philles singles and Shangri-Las records. Guess not. Don Underwood -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:37:06 +0100 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: Brian Wilson Following the listing of the exciting new songs Brian has put into the set (Roxy 11th may), out of the blue the other night I got a chance to interview the man again and I am delighted to report to the group that he was on the best form that I have experienced for a VERY long time...light, funny, friendly and chatty about a wide variety of stuff away from music even. I felt uplifted!! Thought you'd like to hear... Regarding secret handshakes, excellent wheeze... Igor suggested some such to me, but I suspect that it would probably be embarrassing for the ladies, would frighten the horses and be illegal in Peru...so I'll wait a more sensible suggestion from others... Kingsley Abbott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 12:33:25 +0200 From: Jan Kristensen Subject: RE: Daughters Of Eve The side on Girls In The Garage vol. 4 (LP) isn't "Don't Waste My Time" but "Help Me Boy". The song is a rewritten version of The Animals' "Help Me Girl" Jan K -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:23:52 -0400 From: Patrick Rands Subject: Re: new music, molybdenum Martin Roberts asks: > New stuff? I'm always listening to new music, along with digging through the old - but some new music that Spectropoppers might like that I've been listening to in recent weeks is a lot of the Japanese music which someone alluded to a few weeks ago. Including Puffy, who have a great mix of Beatles/Brian Wilson harmonies combined with the more modern J-sounds; Bonnie Pink, who has worked with the Cardigans people, and they came up with an interesting combination of Bonnie's bluesy style and the retro/modern slant somewhat similar to a Saint Etienne; and Love Psychedelico, who have a deceptively simple rock sound which is quite infectious. Btw - has anyone joined? IMOA : International Molybdenum Association http://www.imoa.org.uk/ :Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:59:19 +0100 From: Phil Chapman Subject: RE: Orpheus I took a look around the recently mentioned Borderline Books website, and found reference to a band called 'Orpheus' on MGM, and another on Bell, but no mention of the Orpheus 45 "My Life" (J.Sauter-M.Lewis) on Red Bird 041 (1965). Does anybody know who they are, or who is singing the lead vocal? It's a typical mid 60s 'I'm not gonna conform' beat tune, featuring an odd Los Paraguayos harp riff, and a touch of balalaika for correctness (produced by Mike Lewis and Stuart Wiener). It even got a UK release, which I've played to musica to verify its existence. Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:17:04 -0000 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Touchey, Touchey, Feeley > Martin Roberts wrote: > BUT...new stuff?? .....still can't bring myself to do it! > Should I? DJJB: > Martin...you must sample some things on the Siesta label... > http://www.siesta.es/ingles/indexin.html Thanks to our alert administrators for the website info. Martin, knowing a little of what you like, I can recommend the group "Tomorrow's World". They do a nice job on "Who Is Penelope" from the great soundtrack to "Penelope" starring Natalie Wood, Peter Falk, Jonathan Winters. Groovy soundtrack by Johnny Williams in 1967. A couple of interesting covers too. Just click the band link on the Siesta website and check 'em all out.. JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:54:39 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: ALPHA ZOE / MOOSE & PELICANS Don Underwood wrote: > 1. Who is Alpha Zoe who released "Da Doo Ron Ron" on Hit Records > #65? No producer credits or date shown. Any info would be fun to have. Hit was a soundalikes label, specializing in cheap, quick knockoffs of current hits. A few months ago I found a serviceable discography for them on the Web, but trying it now I see that it's disappeared. Perhaps it's relocated, but good luck running a search on "Hit records". Mark Wirtz wrote: > Also - any of you remember the Kalin Twins - "When"? > Did they make any other records? I don't know anything of substance about their legit career, but they did run their own song-poem company very briefly during the mid-'60s, out of their homes in the D.C. area. Their ads in Hit Parader were headlined: "We've got music, we've got rhythm, but we need your words!" I interviewed them a couple of years ago about it, and found them to be the most forthcoming of all song-poem company owners. They actually got out of the business because it was too sleazy for them; or, at least, too hard to make a buck being honest. --Phil Milstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:16:22 -0400 From: Mike Arcidiacono Subject: Re: ALPHA ZOE / MOOSE & PELICANS Don Underwood wrote: > Who is Alpha Zoe who released "Da Doo Ron Ron" on Hit Records #65? > No producer credits or date shown. Any info would be fun to have. Phil Milstein: > Hit was a soundalikes label, specializing in cheap, quick knockoffs >>>>>Yes, it was, BUT HIT records used very good and experienced Nashville Session musicians to do their records. Most of the time, the names on the records were made up. The same session singers appear, time and time again, under different names. I'm a big fan of HIT records. I have about 60 tracks, on disc and CD. They really did care about their product, none of the records are junk, and some are extremely well produced. While its true they did 3 or 4 tunes in one three hour session, they used strings, percussion, etc, and the overall sound is very good. I have that discography on paper. Its pretty awesome. I'm currently trying to confirm the existence of the master tapes. Right now it looks like they were wiped and sold for the bulk tape value in the late 70s altho we are not sure yet. Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:42:33 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: ALPHA ZOE / MOOSE & PELICANS Mike Arcidiacono wrote: > >>>>>Yes, it was, BUT HIT records used very good and experienced > Nashville Session musicians to do their records. Most of the time, > the names on the records were made up. The same session singers appear, > time and time again, under different names. Indeed, Hit was the Philles of soundalikes labels. But there is a different kind of fun to be had with the product of some of their lesser competitors, the ones whose versions turned the very concept of Top 40 upside down and inside out. For the post-ironists out there (I'm sure there are at least one or two), the genre seems rife for discovery. --Phil Milstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 16:22:44 -0000 From: Bret Wheadon Subject: Introduce myself... Hello, I'm just joining this group and thought I would introduce myself. I'm a great fan of the 60's sound, with a special affinity for The Beach Boys ( I'm the author of http://www.beachboys.com ), Burt Bacharach, Girl Groups, and the Motown sound. I'm not an expert by any means, but am an avid fan of the genre, and have a horrifyingly huge CD collection... I'm particularly thrilled to see Kingsley Abbott's name here, as I'm a great fan of his Beach Boys books. I hope to have many scintillating conversations with this group! Bret W. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 19:17:31 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: Touchey, Touchey, Feeley How kind all these responses for new acts, material and labels etc. BUT I'm not going loopy! :-) When I've exhausted the supply of great records from the 60's, I might carefully dip a little pinkie into the modern music of the 70's! Think this might take some time though! No my request, was for info on 'new releases' of 60's music! More to the point releases/reissues you don't find in the large record shops. For instance the 'new' Diane Renay CD (I have the 45's), worth buying anyway? The Untouchables, mentioned earlier on Spectropop. Chasing "You're On Top" Liberty, which I lost out on, I found details of a 'bootleg' CD, that looks like I must have it! Good quality or a cheaply put together rip-off? I am grateful for the links to sites of 'newer' stuff and I will view but maybe not buy! Thanks, Martin PS Which Neil Young, Rolling Stones/Mick Jagger fan site would 'poppers most recommend? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:51:13 -0400 From: Patrick Rands Subject: Re: Touchey, Touchey, Feeley Martin Roberts wrote: > No my request, was for info on 'new releases' of 60's music! > More to the point releases/reissues you don't find in the large > record shops. Looks like we misunderstood your question, but not for want of trying. I would definitely recommend the Diane Renay 2 cd set! It might not be to everyone's taste, but to me it had an AM radio feel to it. Also her 80s recordings hold up really damn well. She's a fine lady too, if you've heard her in interviews or ever dealt with her personally. If you get the 2 CD set and the Navy Blue CD, my understanding is you have everything except the "A Dime a Dozen" single on Abko (?), which I'm still trying to find myself. If anyone has this and can play it to musica I would be a happy sappy man in this here rubber room, :Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 21:06:03 +0100 From: simon white Subject: Sandra King Any info reaction to - Sandra King "Leave It Up To The Boys ? " on Bell ? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 21:46:32 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: Sandra King Simon White asked:- >Any info reaction to - Sandra King "Leave It Up >To The Boys?" on Bell ? LOVE IT! both sides great. Info none - besides label credits. Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 21:57:38 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: RE: DIANE RENAY Hi, > For instance, the 'new' Diane Renay CD (I have the 45's), > is it worth buying anyway? Oh? So THAT'S what you wanted to know, Martin? You don't have to take MY word for it, go directly to: http://www.dianerenay.com and see what the reviews by Joe Viglione from AMG and Joseph Tortelli of Discoveries have to say. You can even listen to clips of all the tracks and read the liner notes on-line. Someone in the Diane Renay camp must be a bit of a "tekkie". Her hunky new inventor hubby, methinks. The site is a bit of a "must visit". I ordered my copy and it arrived within days. It's not an inexpensive item but it's a double CD and the price includes postage to anywhere in the world. Even if you have ALL of the little lady's records, you won't have heard half the tracks before because they are previously unissued! Unless, of course, you were paying attention at your Christmas party, because my copy was in yer CD player more than once. The best tracks on the CD are the FOUR previously unheard BOB CREWE productions: "Live And Learn" (not the Joey Heatherton / Lesley Gore song but a great Crewe original), "Big City Boy" (written by Crewe with Eddie Rambeau), "See How They Run" (the Toys' song but with a very different arrangement) and "Teach Me Tonight" (a duet by Diane and Crewe), all mastered from Diane's own one-of-a-kind molybdenum acetates. Curiously, the rear of the CD case appears to feature a photo of myself with Sue Thompson for some reason :-) Miss Renay will, of course, be receiving a letter from my legal department demanding a very hefty fee! And by the way, Martin, Susie darning your socks is an event I would LOVE to witness in person! Does she use a staple gun? MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 22:35:46 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: A Happy Sappy Man in his Rubber Room Patrick Rands: > If you get the 2 CD set and the Navy Blue CD, my understanding > is you have everything except the "A Dime a Dozen" single on > Abko (?), which I'm still trying to find myself. Hi Patrick, Sorry for leading you up the garden path. My penance (happily given): Diane Renay "A Dime A Dozen" on musica. Classic early, clip clop Bob Crewe production. Thanks for the recommendations, I'll start saving the pennies, Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 22:54:23 -0000 From: Bill Reed Subject: Nino Tempo Yesterday I conducted a print interview for the Japanese publication "Record Collectors" with producer/singer/ saxophonist/drummer/actor etc. etc. etc. Nino Tempo. He lives comfortably here in L.A. Doing some further reseach this a.m., I was amazed at how much praise there is for him on the net and not just on this site. Somewhat amazingly, he doesn't have a PC, and is a bit unaware of just how widely respected his work is, expecially as a producer. I passed along from recollection some of the nice things that have been said about him on Spectropop, and he was genuinely surprised. I think he might be operating under the misconception that while people might know "All Strung Out", some of his other work hasn't been listened to for years. When I told him that I knew of at least one gaggle of cyber enthusiasts who are equally familiar with "Boys' Town" he was, again, quite "whelmed". It was a nice, productive session with a few minor surprises: for example, I gingerly broached the fact that some people believe that Phil Spector might have a hand in at least one of his (Tempo's) hit records - not only was he aware of said rumor, he brushed it off good-naturedly. We also talked a bit about the making of "Deep Purple". I don't want to scoop my Japanese self here, but let's just say that probably no record in Grammy-winning history has a more ad hoc pedigree. Nice guy! Bill Reed -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 23:30:30 -0000 From: Phil Chapman Subject: Re: Orpheus Phil Chapman wrote: > I took a look around the recently mentioned Borderline Books > website, and found reference to a band called 'Orpheus' on MGM, > and another on Bell, but no mention of the Orpheus 45 "My Life" > (J.Sauter-M.Lewis) on Red Bird 041 (1965)...... Holy molybdenum! I am reliably informed, by the annotator of the sleeve notes,...you know who....that this track is available on "Dressed In Black - The Red Bird Sound Vol. 4" Diamond GEMCD 025. I searched Amazon, but it only shows on the UK site http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/026-6978440-3286010 To avoid a visit from Igor, I've ammended my musica play to a promotional 59seconds. The 'b' side, "Music Minus Orpheus" (not on CD) is the instrumental track, but, interestingly enough, required an additional writer: S.Wiener, must've been his idea to remove the vocal:-) Is this the same team that wrote & produced some of the lovely Roddie Joy tracks? And who was she?? Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 20:50:51 -0400 From: Will Stos Subject: Girl-Groups.Com Chuck Mallory's site is gone!?! I checked at about 9:00pm Eastern Standard Time on Thursday and found a different site at www.girl- groups.com - None of the links to other pages work either. Does anyone know if he's gone off-line for good or if he's just moving his content to another site? Will -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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