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Spectropop - Digest Number 456

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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)

There are 20 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Valerie Avon/PEANUT- yeeyyy!
           From: Mark Wirtz 
      2. Re: Swan records and "Rising Sons"
           From: Joseph Panzarella 
      3. Re: Golden Wonder Boy s - It's only R&R (Roger&Roger), but I like it …
           From: Gerrit Lansink 
      4. Hello
           From: Irving Martin 
      5. Group Therapy
           From: Dan Hughes 
      6. Re: Swan records and "Rising Sons"
           From: Mike Demers 
      7. Re: I Can Hear Music
           From: Phil Chapman 
      8. Is She Or Isn't She?
           From: Martin Roberts 
      9. RE: Valerie Avon/PEANUT- yeeyyy!
           From: Phil Chapman 
     10. Re: Avon ladies, more labels
           From: Billy G Spradlin 
     11. Re: Swan records and "Rising Sons"
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     12. Rising Sons..The Best of British?
           From: Martin Roberts 
     13. BING BONG!
           From: mick patrick 
     14. The Richest Man Alive
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     15. Chantelles
           From: Judy Low 
     16. RONNIE and MICK and MAC and KATIE
           From: Jimmy Crescitelli 
     17. Excerpts from a Teenage Collection
           From: Mark Frumento 
     18. Book: Kev Roberts - The Northern Soul Top 500
           From: Mike Edwards 
     19. Help!-Need assistance with Japanese translation of CD booklets!
           From: laughingmood 
     20. Millennium CD set on Sundazed
           From: DJ Steve 


Message: 1
   Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 20:14:33 EDT
   From: Mark Wirtz 
Subject: Re: Valerie Avon/PEANUT- yeeyyy!

mick patrick writes:
> Well, Mark, I reckon the mystery PEANUT 45 was probably never 
> released. However, our friend Martin... you know, the one who 
> hates the Four Cal-Quettes but has all of their records anyway 
> :-) ...has suggested to me that the disc you're thinking of 
> could well be VALERIE AVON's single "To Be Let" b/w "He Knows 
> I Love Him Too Much", issued on Columbia DB 8201 in 1967. 
> Ring a bell?

(Thought it was Peanut - duh - but now I remember clearly - it 
was via Peanut, Valerie being her manager at the time, that 
Valerie and I talked about making a record together, which we did 
- that one :):):) Are there any copies around of that?? I think 
Feldman & Co. was the publisher of the song, right?

> Anyway, I have a bit of a penchant for backing singers, so tell 
> us who the stellar crew were on that session. Oh, do!

***Liza Duncan, Doris Troy, Kiki Dee, Barry St. John, Judith Powell, 
Peanut, Margo, Maggie and Gloria, John Carter, Ken Lewis, 
Peter Lee Stirling,

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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 22:22:12 -0400 From: Joseph Panzarella Subject: Re: Swan records and "Rising Sons" I have the Swan single "I Got Rid of The Rats In My Room"/"The Underwater Surfers" Swan #4157, my copy is a promo...white label with black print, I've added pictures of the A & B sides on the members photo page...early or late promo?? Joe Panzarella -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 10:22:29 -0000 From: Gerrit Lansink Subject: Re: Golden Wonder Boy s - It's only R&R (Roger&Roger), but I like it … Ian Chapman: > Thanks Martin. Yes we did identify the singer - cast your > mind back, I know it's a long time ago...:-) You're right > about it being the writers - it's a Cook/Greenaway tune Talking about Roger & Roger (Cooke & Greenaway), they had a string of hits in the Netherlands as song suppliers for The Cats. What A Crazy Life, Sure He's A Cat, What's This World Coming To and Turn Around And Start Again all were Cooke/Greenaway penned and all reached the Dutch top 30 around 1966, 1967. Does any Spectropopper know other versions of these songs, apart from The Merseys' rendition of Sure He's A Cat? How about some trivia? The Cats were from Volendam, a place with some 12,000 inhabitants. Same place gave us George Baker Selection of Little Green Bag fame. Small world. One of the members of The Cats was a certain Arnold Mühren. No, soccer/football fans, not THE Arnold Mühren, but a cousin of the man that played for Ipswich Town and Manchester United, the man of THE assist for - Even smaller world... Gerrit Lansink -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:46:15 +0100 From: Irving Martin Subject: Hello [from the Spectropop Bulletin Board] Hello Martin Roberts You seem to know more about me than I know (or remember) myself. I knew Mark Wirtz slightly and he always struck me as a great producer and writer. Actually far better than me during that period. I achieved success in other musical areas and am now running a TV production company and mainly producing and directing Direct Response TV spots and infomercials. Would love to hear from you with any forgotten moments you may have on file! Regards, ILM -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 06:18:50 -0500 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Group Therapy Bob mentions, > the bands called Group Therapy (Magic in the Air/Bad News, > latter of which Jeff Glenn knows is a wonderful tune!!) .... I have two albums by Group Therapy: People Get Ready For Group Therapy, RCA LSP-3976 (1968), and 37 Minutes of Group Therapy, Phillips PHS-600-303 (1969). Same group I assume? Don't think I'd call attention to the fact that the album had only 37 minutes' worth of content--that was pretty slim for 1969. ---Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 22:27:09 -0700 From: Mike Demers Subject: Re: Swan records and "Rising Sons" Dan Hughes: > I have heard that Reynolds could be quite "difficult" and his > temper was legendary. He probably holds the all-time record > for being fired. And in radio, that's quite an accomplishment That reminds me....does anyone else here have any Kim Fowley stories? Mike Demers -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 14:06:57 -0000 From: Phil Chapman Subject: Re: I Can Hear Music > Phil Chapman: >> Thanks, I have a fetish for covers, soundalikes and non-English >> language versions. Now where can it [Parade - I Can Hear Music] >> be found? james botticelli: > Thanks for the link, Jimmy B - I did find a Parade album in the 'lounge' area, but no details, just a price. Is it the same crew? Good to see Tiga & Zyntherius doing OK with one of my old hits! Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 21:14:42 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Is She Or Isn't She? Interesting reading Mick's last letter (but aren't they all!) regarding Ronnie Spector vocal tracks. Now I'm no voice expert (this has been proved to me on many occasions!!) but while reading the digest, Little Linda "Don't Take Your Love From Me" /"Hey Little Lover"(Coral 62279)was playing on my dansette. Hang on, I thought, could it be?? I suppose not, maybe the lead from The Heartbreakers but, while waiting for Ronnie's version of "Home Of the Brave" to turn up, this is an interesting soundalike. Now, as everyone knows, my taste in music veers towards softer, 'prettier' vocal stylings e.g. The Four Cal-Quettes. This is a tad too RnB, but Mick might enjoy it! Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 22:36:36 +0100 From: Phil Chapman Subject: RE: Valerie Avon/PEANUT- yeeyyy! Mark Wirtz: > Are there any copies around of that?? I think > Feldman & Co. was the publisher of the song, right? "To Be Let" (Avon) - Leeds Music "He Knows I Love Him Too Much" (Goffin-King) - Screen Gems-Columbia both sides arr & cond by, producer: MW Well, I, or Boris, could do you a CD burn. I recommended "He Knows..." to Spectropeeps last year as an example of your work, and an original treatment of the Goffin-King song. It's a quirky combo of quasi-funk drums & bass, dbl-tempo arpeggiated acoustic guitars, lazy mariachi trumpets, Baja Band marimba and a Paris Sisters vocal. And - it's a 'b' side! Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 07:53:51 -0000 From: Billy G Spradlin Subject: Re: Avon ladies, more labels Country Paul wrote: > Kingsley Abbott wrote: > Diamond indeed had some neat stuff. I love Kevin McQuinn's > "Every Step of the Way," #101, the first release on the label, > produced by Bob Crewe (I think) and arranged by Charlie Calello. > I'm also looking for the Bobettes' "Love is Blind," somewhat > later. (On any CDs anyone knows about?) I have a record on Diamond by a group called the Bleus - "Good Mornin' Love" - a catchy number, sounds like its from the late 60's, almost bubblegummy. > Billy Spradlin, sorry but I kinda like some of the Billy & > Lillie material on Swan, particularly "Lucky Ladybug" and > "La-Dee-Dah." I heard these songs for the first time as 4 Seasons LP tracks on thier early Vee-Jay albums. "Lucky Ladybug" was even a later b-side. I think Bob Crewe was co-writer/producer for Billy & Lillie so thats why they covered them. > Bob Rashkow's comment on Paula Records brings to mind the > Uniques 45, "All These Things," c. 1966, a zen-simple 6/8 ballad > sung by lead and later country star Joe Stampley. That 45 is a huge 60's oldies favorite here in Texas, I think it was the #1 song on KLIF Dallas in 1967-8. The Uniques, John Fred & The Playboy Band, and also Mouse & The Traps and The Five Americans (plus in the 70's ZZ Top) all recorded just down the road from me (27 miles west of Kilgore TX) at Robin Hood Studios in Tyler. The studio is still in operation today. When I first heard about it, it struck me strange that a record as big-sounding as "Judy In Disguise" (a childhood favorite) could have been recorded in someones converted garage studio here in East Texas! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 08:07:59 EDT From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Swan records and "Rising Sons" Tom Taber writes: > By the way, I had the opportunity probably 15 years > ago to ask Mr. Joey Reynolds in person if he new how > the two 'Joey & Danny' records sold in relation to one > another - he looked at me like I was the biggest loser > he had ever met, and went back to a previous > conversation he was having. Yes indeed-y. I had the opportunity to work with JR years ago. Great talent, real bright, very funny - and a bigger j*** never lived. Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 23:33:51 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Rising Sons..The Best of British? Interesting reading from Country Paul and Tom Taber about the "is there or isn't there a Swan 'Rising Sons' 45." I can't offer any info on this - BUT there was an Amy release by the Rising Sons, "Talk To Me Baby"/"Try To Be A Man" from '65. Released in Britain on Stateside ("An Amy Mala Recording") with a different A side, Goffin and King's "You're My Girl". This must be one of the 'sweetest' Four Seasons soundalikes. Gorgeous! Produced by another (flavour of the past few months!) 'adopted' Englishman, Shel Talmy. My guess would be that it was recorded in the UK as well. Shel did this quite a lot. A record worth tracking down. Anyone able to play the Amy side "Talk To Me Baby" to musica? Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 07:22:38 +0100 (BST) From: mick patrick Subject: BING BONG! AVON LADIES CALLING! Hi, > Country Paul wrote: > add to Mick's note, I have a mid-60s 45 by THE AVONS > on Groove (RCA subsid) called "Whatever Happened To Our Love?". > Not too bad, either. Agreed, Paul, but you should hear the fantastic version by the one and only MAXINE BROWN, one of a handful of very girl group- style recordings made by the "Oh No, Not My Baby" gal. The Avons' other Groove single, by the way, coupled a great version of the Marigolds' "Rolling Stone" and "Words Written On Water". The latter song was covered for the UK market by identical blonde Bond bombshells, the Baker Twins. And Mark Wirtz might care to know that "I Can Hear Music" was not the only "Spector" song he recorded. Although Uncle Phillip did not actually help Carole King & Gerry Goffin author "He Knows I Love Him Too Much" (as re-created so wonderfully by our Mark with Brit Girl VALERIE AVON), he did produce the original version/s by the Paris Sisters and former Chantels' lead Arlene Smith. Before I go could I possibly interest anyone in some of this wonderful new shimmerin' cleavage enhancer? It's on special offer this month. No? Oh, well, suit yourselves... MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 00:30:23 -0400 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: The Richest Man Alive Phil Chapman: [re: Ray Singer] > Mel Carter recorded a song called "Richest Man Alive", > is this the same tune? Ray Singer's "I'm The Richest Man Alive" is the same song as Mel Carter's, but they're quite different. Ray's track is truly excellent, but his voice is... umm... annoying, in a Carmine Ragusa kind of way. Just my opinion. The production on Mel's isn't nearly as dynamic, but his vocal, to me, is among the most soulful he's ever cut. I'll post his version to musica once some space clears up. Jeff Lemlich The Florida Music forum: P.S. RIP Dick Campbell. From "People Planners" to "Beyond a Shadow of Doubt", a very talented man. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 07:17:49 +0100 From: Judy Low Subject: Chantelles [from the Spectropop Bulletin Board] Just read your page about The Chantelles (UK). Just recently went on the net. I was the group musician Jay Adams and did the arranging as well as being top and bottom voice. Astonished that the records are still popular although not the ones I would have chosen. A bit late perhaps but currently doing a music degree! Judy Low -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 23:34:59 EDT From: Jimmy Crescitelli Subject: RONNIE and MICK and MAC and KATIE Lord... I've actually got copies of those pix of you and Ronnie and... Carol, I think? You all sent them years ago. And can't believe Mac & Katie Kissoon were mentioned... I HAD to have "Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep" when it came out and drove my family crazy playing the 45 endlessly... VERY infectious!! Jimmy Crescitelli -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 22:00:15 -0400 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Excerpts from a Teenage Collection I've was lucky enough to be the recipient of some very cool records from Mark Wirtz. I am in the process of getting the records recorded to CD before much of the collection is sold (for more on that please write to me off line). Obviously, given Mark's varied career as a producer the collection contains some great productions and some absolute classics. I would imagine that many of the records are quite rare? I'll play some of the obscurities to musica as space allows, including a couple of unreleased gems from "Tempo", Mark's completed Teenage Opera. I'm betting many of you will really dig these tracks.....several genres of interest to Spectropoppers are represented. I've played Ray Singer's "I'm The Richest Man Alive" to musica. This is a 1965 45 on Ember (complete with a PS!) and one of Mark's earliest productions. It's also one of his most stunning in my opinion. Who cares if Ray wasn't the greatest singer? The drums and bass on this song unlike other records I've ever heard from 1965! Please feel free to write me off-line for more information on these records. I really want to share this material because I think it should be heard by more than just me. Mark Frumento -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 15:51:35 -0000 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Book: Kev Roberts - The Northern Soul Top 500 One book I've been thumbing through recently is Kev Roberts' "Northern Soul Top 500". Although it doesn't address the music favoured by Spectropop, I would recommend it to 45rpm lovers as Kev features photos of each of the 500 US (mostly) labels of the records he includes in his listing. The first 100 records are featured one to a page. It reminded me of the page we used to get on the back cover of Philately magazine. You can also find such names as Bob Crewe, Van McCoy, The Shirelles and the Canterbury label making the occasional appearance. Each record is reviewed both from its perspective as a piece of recorded music and its impact on the Northern Soul scene. There's an amazing amount of detail on many little-known artists, record labels and producers. Kev, who was a DJ at the famed Wigan Casino, uses his insight to offer some thoughtful comments on the Northern scene in general. When reviewing Frankie Valli's "You're Ready Now", he says that "in terms of real commercial Northern, this is possibly the forerunner of a generation, and although scorned by purists, if it were not for such sides the scene might never have flourished". Similarly with the Spinners' "I'll Always Love You", Kev notes that the production is "similar to the Isleys' "This Old Heart Of Mine", which does not figure in our chart, but symbolizes precisely the sound that Northern Soul is based on". The appendix features many top 10 lists including the top 10 Northern Soul records for each year from 1967 through 2000. This told me a lot about the evolution of the scene as the early years featured known songs, many of which charted in the US (e.g. Wade In The Water, You've Been Cheatin' etc). The charts for the later years seem to be made up of obscure and even unissued tracks. There's not a duff page in the book. I recommend it unreservedly and it's available from for 15.96UKP (it lists at 19.99UKP) – I don't think it's published in the US. Many of the songs listed are available on CD on the UK reissue labels, Kent ( ) and Goldmine ( ) Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 22:43:45 -0000 From: laughingmood Subject: Help!-Need assistance with Japanese translation of CD booklets! I need to get in touch with anyone who might have some info on getting translations for some of my Japanese soft pop related CDs. For instance, the Sandy Salisbury album Falling To Pieces has a beautiful booklet in English but as far as I can tell, all the specific track information is in the Japanese insert! I've had this problem for years. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 04:54:29 -0400 From: DJ Steve Subject: Millennium CD set on Sundazed Anyone know if this is worth getting. Also looking for any Sundazed label recommendations on CD. Thanks -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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