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Spectropop - Digest Number 451

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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)

There are 20 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. More on Peanut
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
      2. Re: The Battle of San Onofre
           From: Guy Lawrence 
           From: mick patrick 
      4. Re: First Cut..
           From: Jeffrey Glenn 
      5. Re: I Can Hear Music etc etc
           From: james botticelli 
      6. Gene Pitney needs more time in kareoke bars..
           From: Ken Levine 
      7. Mickettes Redux
           From: Jimmy Crescitelli 
      8. Re: Obscure Gurls
           From: Ian May 
           From: Mark Wirtz 
     10. Dottie Holmberg
           From: Steve F 
     11. Re: favourite labels
           From: Luis Suarez 
     12. Re: Judy Stone, Kenny Karen, Second City Sound
           From: simon white 
           From: Ian May 
     14. Four Cal-Quettes
           From: Martin Roberts 
     15. Labels, Love Affairs...
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     16. Question for Mark Wirtz
           From: Ronnie Allen 
     17. Castle Pulse CD Box Set - "Chapel Of Love - And Other Great Girl Group Gems"
           From: Mike Edwards 
     18. Re: Fave record labels
           From: Billy G Spradlin 
           From: mick patrick 
     20. Sue & Sunny
           From: Martin Roberts 


Message: 1
   Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 16:41:14 +0100
   From: Kingsley Abbott 
Subject: More on Peanut

Mark W. mentioned about Peanut's version of "I'm Waiting 
For The Day" being on the Castle comp called "Guess 
I'm Dumb" which I was lucky enough to be involved with.
Her version was also released in Japan recently on EM 
Records in a lovingly re-created 7" vinyl EP format, along 
with "Someone's Gonna Be Sorry", "I Didn't love Him 
Anyway" and "Come Tomorrow". Along with this release, EM 
have also put out two other 60s styled EP-looking single 
releases of "Here Today"/"But Cry" from The Robb Storme 
Group and Antony Thompson's excellent cover of
"Caroline No"/"Come Unto Me" adding up to a mini 
Pet Sounds series. Anthony is Tony Rivers' son. Brian 
Wilson is reported to really like Anthony's "Caroline
No" and even travelled last year to an LA club to see
Ant and Tony perform.

Katie (Peanut) Kissoon also popped up as backing
singer on a locally pressed CD that is available from
the (excellent) local baker in our next village here in
Norfolk.  Strange but true :-)

Kingsley Abbott

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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 16:38:35 +0100 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re: The Battle of San Onofre Don Charles: > Does anyone have any information about this narrative song? > I know that Annette Funicello recorded "The Battle Of San Onofre" > for her BEACH PARTY album in 1964, but there is no record of its > authors in either the BMI or ASCAP databases. Who wrote it, and > was it ever cut by anyone else? My Annette "Beach Party" reissue on Rhino (RNDF204) lists the authors as (G.Hemrick/J.Styner). Storming version of "California Sun" on there too! Regards, Guy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 17:21:51 +0100 (BST) From: mick patrick Subject: AVONS CALLING Original message from Paul Urbahns: > There was a singing group of black girls in Nashville called > The Avons. Is there an expert out there on them? They may have > recorded with Peggy Gaines. Hi, Well, Paul, an expert on THE AVONS I don't claim to be, but I can tell you that in 1968 they and Peggy Gaines each recorded for the Ref-O-Ree label of Nashville. Both acts also knocked out "cheap cover versions" for the local budget logo Hit. I believe the Avons used the monicker JENNY & THE JEWELS at that time. We have amongst our members experts on Hit who may educate us further. The Kent CD "Music City Soul" (CDKEND 157) contains the Avons' Ref-O-Ree track "Tell Me Baby (Who Would I Be)", not to mention two great cuts by Peggy Gaines. And you can get "Since I Met You Baby", recorded by the Avons for Excello in 1968, and the previously-unissued "I Would If I Could" on the CD "Uptown, Down South" (Kent CDKEND 121). Volume 1 of the "Where The Girls Are" series (Ace CDCHD 648) contains a stereo version of the Avons' debut 45 "Push A Little Harder", released on RCA's subsidiary Groove in 1963. That single came with a nice picture sleeve, illustrated in colour in the CD booklet. In the UK, the girls were billed by RCA as the Novas to avoid confusion with the British Avons. One can view the covers, full tracklists and original essays about each of the aabove-mentioned CDs by going to Furthermore, what I suspect many Spectropoppers might regard as the Avons' best ever recording, a wonderful version of Ronnie & the Daytona's "Be Good To Your Baby", can be found on the brand new 3CD box set "Chapel Of Love - And Other Great Girl Group Gems" (Castle/Pulse PBXCD 353). Sixty, count 'em, sixty tracks for about nine quid. Let's see, per track that's about, oh work it out for yourselves... MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 09:42:16 -0700 From: Jeffrey Glenn Subject: Re: First Cut.. > "Jeff Glenn has yet another version of > "First Cut" on his list that I'd love to hear sometime." Up now on musica: Danish Lost & Found - The First Cut If The Deepest (Stevens) Laurie 3492 (1969). A Triola Record [Denmark] Recording A nice straight ahead pop/rock version of the Cat Stevens song by a Danish band. Enjoy! Jeff -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 14:03:37 -0400 From: james botticelli Subject: Re: I Can Hear Music etc etc Mark Wirtz wrote: > Phil Chapman writes: >> there more than one version of "I Can Hear Music"?. >> ...Ian Chapman says it sounds like a female vocal, but I >> favour it's a male vocal (Chas Mills?) a la Beach Boys. > > Oh boy, Margo would be soooo hurt if she read this. No, with > all due respect to good old Chas, he could never pull off a vocal > with that much soul. It was Margo on lead and the Breakaways on > background. And I never recorded more than one version of this. There is an "I Can Hear Music" soundalike on The Parade's (only?) LP but of course I can't remember what its called. Someone here pro'lly do though! -- Jimmy Botticelli Taking The E-Z...Way Out! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 14:48:42 -0700 From: Ken Levine Subject: Gene Pitney needs more time in kareoke bars.. Wonderful moment at the end of the BBC's morning TV show: "And now we close today's program with Gene Pitney singing his latest release...." Cut to a dapper & distinguished, white-haired Gene Pitney on the front steps of some building. The song's intro begins as Gene patiently waits. And he continues waiting while the recorded voice of Gene Pitney begins to sing. Ultimately his lips begin moving just before the conclusion of the first verse. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 18:45:04 EDT From: Jimmy Crescitelli Subject: Mickettes Redux Will Stos (hey there Will!) raised an interesting point... that Mick Patrick and Company have ultra knowledge of obscure girl groups. This has been a fact for many years: at least 30 in my case... and you guys have unraveled SO many GG mysteries. So here's one to try: The Four Cal-Quettes - "I'll Never Come Back". I am making a tape for a collector, and including this cut... it's heartbreaking, heartrending, and completely angst-ridden. Any info on this group? Best, Jimmy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 01:02:45 +0100 From: Ian May Subject: Re: Obscure Gurls Norman recalls: > ....I can tell you I remember seeing the Undertakers on > 'Thank Your Lucky Stars' way back in 1964 but can't remember > the name of the group I saw on 'Top of The Pops' last night! I don't even watch TOTP these days. There doesn't seem to be much music on it anymore. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 22:42:41 EDT From: Mark Wirtz Subject: Re: WIRTZ, BRIT GIRLS & RESEARCH Mick Patrick writes: > I found some interesting bits in the accompanying discography. > For example, maybe Mark would like to tell us a little about > producing tall, weird KIM FOWLEY...or the German language > recordings of rockabilly goddess WANDA JACKSON...or PEANUT'S > unissued single "Rumours". Regarding Kim Fowley, without doubt the most impacting influence in my life and forever my hero (we were like a neo Don Quichote pair, LOL) , read my book "Sisyphus Rocks." It is a virtual tribute to Kim, and (arguably) the only likely publication ever that authentically depicts Kim's reckless, Faustian journey, incongruous to, and in tragic conflict with, his deep humanity. Re Wanda Jackson - Mark Frumento has a copy of the material - ask him to post it. Peanut's Rumors was originally released as B-side of one of her EMI singles, and just re-released in Japan as part of an EP vinyl release on EM/Harmonies Records. The release was prompted by RPM Records, so Mark Stratford (who now owns my Colinio Productions Catalogue that includes the Peanut recordings) should be able to get a copy to you by request. Very best, Mark (Wirtz) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 02:47:45 -0000 From: Steve F Subject: Dottie Holmberg All you Curt Boettcher fans/completists (that includes me) might be interested in the following news: According to Dottie Holmberg, formerly of The Goldebriars, in late May/Early June 2002 Sundazed Music will be releasing a solo album of (pop) love songs Dottie Holmberg of the Goldebriars recorded from 1966 to 1970....All the songs/recordings on this album (except one - "Sea of Tears") have never been released. There will be 17 songs on the CD (will also be available on a vinyl album) of which Dottie wrote 11 songs & co-wrote an additional 2 songs on the album. Check out Dottie's website: Steve F -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 11:20:21 -0700 From: Luis Suarez Subject: Re: favourite labels Labels that I love: Bang Bell Buddah Deram Fontana GM Magnet Metromedia MGM Page One Penny Farthing Pink Elephant President RAK RCA UK Super K UA UK White Whale Luis Suarez _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 14:34:39 +0100 From: simon white Subject: Re: Judy Stone, Kenny Karen, Second City Sound Thanks for all the feed back on my original posting both on and off list. Ian Chapman wrote - > And as for the Second City Sound ......... Their cover of > "River Deep, Mountain High" > (with perceived lyrics rather than the actual ones!) is just odd, > with Jennie having attacks of Dorothy Squires-itis throughout. Now this I need to hear ! But has no one got anything on Dian Hart "All The Time" on the Kerr label? Ernie Freeman arranged and written by Mason Williams. It's a nice pop/soul dance rekkid with [gulp] northern soul overtones. Of course it is the 'b' side:-) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 14:57:28 +0100 From: Ian May Subject: RE: AVONS CALLING Mick writes: > Furthermore, what I suspect many Spectropoppers might regard > as the Avons' best ever recording, a wonderful version of > Ronnie & the Daytona's "Be Good To Your Baby", can be found > on the brand new 3CD box set "Chapel Of Love - And Other > Great Girl Group Gems" (Castle/Pulse PBXCD 353). I've just ordered this from It was 6.99 plus p+p giving a total of 8.45 delivered to the door. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 16:15:11 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Four Cal-Quettes Jimmy Crescitelli asked about:- >The Four Cal-Quettes - "I'll Never Come Back". I am making a tape >for a collector, and including this cut... it's heartbreaking, >heartrending, and completely angst-ridden. >Any info on this group? Before Mick replies with the girls names, shoe and bra size.... The 4 Cal-Quettes, "heartbreaking, heartrending, and completely angst-ridden." Gosh! I'd always judged them as rather wimpy! Must admit "I'll Never Come Back (Silly Boy)" Wr. Barry Mann, Arr. Barbara Haskell & Prod. Nick Venet (Capitol 4725)'62 is a bit super! There first record (that I know about) was released as 'The Four Coquettes "Sparkle And Shine" Capitol 4534 '61 (quite sparkling). Followed by "Star Bright" Capitol 4574 (quite bright), "I'm Gonna Love Him Anyway" Capitol 4657 (quite lovely? Not really, weakest so far). Then after "I'll Never..." they decamped to Liberty 55549 '63 for "Movie Magazines". This might have charted in the late 50's but very twee for '63. This (final?) release reunited them in the label credits with Larson & Bruce Belland (Lar-Bell Music Corp./Pan-Or Productions) who I assume were there management team. Wimpy & twee, well yes but I have got a soft spot for them and yes, I guess "I'll Never...." is "heartbreaking, heartrending, and completely angst-ridden."! Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 11:46:18 EDT From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Labels, Love Affairs... Re: Mark Wirtz So, you worked with the incredible Kim Fowley!!! I'm even more aware of just how extensive your career has been. BTW, I LOVE "My White Bicycle" which leads me to...... Re: The Love Affair Norman, I too am a BIG BIG fan - if the 45 I own of "Bringin' On Back The Good Times" is any indication of the rest of their work, nothing short of SPECTACULAR so I have a lot of listening to look forward to) Makes me wish I'd grown up in England's "green and pleasant land" especially with records like Procol's "Homburg & Rupert's People's "Reflections......"! ! !:-) Re: "Peanut" I heard that Mac & Katie Kissoon's original version of "Love Will Keep Us Together" is infinitely more creative than the Captain & Tennille's big hit. Re: Labels!! Ditto what Luis Suarez said (who recorded on Pink Elephant, Luis??!!) & will gladly add that I have a special fondness for the DIAMOND and FERNWOOD labels, TEAM (an offshoot of SUPER K) the GONE label and for all you psychedelia/garage psyke buffs out there: good old CANTERBURY!!!! To name only a smattering. Bobster. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 12:22:23 EDT From: Ronnie Allen Subject: Question for Mark Wirtz Mark, Could you tell me a little bit about Keith West, who recorded "Excerpt From 'A Teenage Opera'" ("Grocer Jack"). I always thought that recording was an excellent one and deserved to have success in the U.S. as well. Ronnie Allen -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 16:54:29 -0000 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Castle Pulse CD Box Set - "Chapel Of Love - And Other Great Girl Group Gems" Ian May writes: > a wonderful version of > Ronnie & the Daytona's "Be Good To Your Baby", can be found > on the brand new 3CD box set "Chapel Of Love - And Other > Great Girl Group Gems" (Castle/Pulse PBXCD 353) Ian, This set looks to be terrific value (even if it does mean that "Leader Of The Pack" will now appear in our CD collections for the 6th time!). What's the quality like? Are they all original recordings? I would recommend anyone in the US ordering from There's a great selection of CDs over there and the transaction is as easy as it is when buying from Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:14:17 -0000 From: Billy G Spradlin Subject: Re: Fave record labels Stewart Mason writes: > Anyone but me remember Harlow Wilcox's "Groovy Grubworm," > which was on seemingly *every* Plantation Records compilation? Plus Rod Hart's "CB Savage", a novelity hit in 1976. I remember all those trucker albums and 8-tracks that were in every TG&Y and Wal-Mart cutout bin! Frank Youngwerth: > Who else has a favorite label, and which is it? Besides Phillies and all the Motown labels, one of my favorites is Swan - the home of "She Loves You/Sie Liebt Dich" and The McKinleys "Someone Cares For Me" in the USA. It seems every Swan 45 I have discovered over the years is good-to-excellent (except for Billy & Lillie!). The Sapphires, Marcie Jo, Freddie Cannon, Link Wray, Three Degrees, The Rockin' Rebels and DONT DROP OUT. Sounds to me the label concentrated on Pop and R&B singles and whoever picked singles between 62-66 did a good job. Billy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 17:49:15 +0100 (BST) From: mick patrick Subject: Re: THE FOUR CAL-QUETTES Dear Spectropop, Mr. Michael Patrick would like to thank Mr. James Crescitelli for aiming at him a question about the Four Cal-Quettes. He also wishes to deliver his sincerest gratitude to Mr. Martin Roberts for answering that enquiry on his behalf. He was going to reply personally but has since deleted his epic response and has retired to his bedchamber with "the vapours". Oh, hang on, he's barking something at me right now....He says, "Ask that flower-monger why he has all the Four Cal-Quettes' records if he hates them so much". Oh dear, now he's slammed the door. Oh no, he's playing his Ruby & the Romantics LP so loud that it's made his pile of Lou Christie 45s fall into the kitty litter tray. And it was going to be such a lovely day. Oh well, back to ironing his lovely trousers. My, aren't they long! Yours faithfully, Boris (Valet to Mr. Michael Patrick) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 00:24:51 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Sue & Sunny Ian Chapman: > I wonder what the chances are of persuading a certain Spectropopper > to post his 60s acetate of Sunny singing an unissued track called > "He's Not There" to musica. THIS MEANS YOU MARTIN! We will all be in for a treat when Ian rewrites his Vernon Girls piece from 'That Will Never Happen Again'. So how could I refuse his request to play Sunny to musica? From the same box of 60's acetates, which were bought for a fiver (a bag of 'taters and a tray of eggs), came "Golden Wonder Boy" by two unidentified males. I can't remember if the best ears in the business (not overly large, but very perceptive) have identified the singers, more likely to be the writers. But it is a good tune, and, with the right producer, could have been great. Both acetates (no artist credited on either) will be played to musica. Martin PS Paul, thanks for giving the source of the Scott Engel (Walker) track. I prefer the thought of you climbing over the wall, avoiding the snarling dogs and escaping with piles of unreleased acetates, but the truth will out! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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