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Spectropop - Digest Number 2151



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There are 25 messages in this issue.


Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Motown covers . . . good 'n' bad
           From: Alan V Karr 
      2. Re: Zager And Evans/Larry Buchanan tie-in?
           From: Gary Myers 
      3. Re: The Results > (Barbara South &) The Believers > Ovella & The Overtures
           From: Mick Patrick 
      4. Re: Motown covers . . . good 'n' bad
           From: Mark Maldwyn 
      5. Looking for a song
           From: Jason 
      6. Re: Motown artiste Tom Clay
           From: Ed Salamon 
      7. Where are the Christmas songs?
           From: Matt Spero 
      8. Re: Where are the Christmas songs?
           From: Mick Patrick 
      9. Re: workin' it with the Fourmost Authority
           From: John Berg 
     10. Re: Tom Clay
           From: Artie Butler 
     11. Cathy McCord on CTI
           From: Moss 
     12. Louise Cordet
           From: Alan V Karr 
     13. Gabriel & the Angels
           From: Alan V Karr 
     14. A very special Christmas with Marisol.
           From: Julio Niño 
     15. Re: Motown covers . . . good 'n' bad
           From: Alan V Karr 
     16. Flirtations on Musica
           From: Frank J 
     17. Re: Kim Fowley
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     18. Re: Tom Clay
           From: Frank J 
     19. Re: workin' it with the Fourmost Authority
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     20. Re: workin' it with the Fourmost Authority
           From: Mike 
     21. re: Motown artiste Tom Clay
           From: Mark W Petty 
     22. re: Lennon remembered / a confession
           From: Artie Wayne 
     23. Jeff Barry fansite updated with new pix
           From: Laura Pinto 
     24. Re: Joe South
           From: Regina Litman 
     25. Re: Joe South
           From: Brent Cash 


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________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 04:25:50 -0000 From: Alan V Karr Subject: Re: Motown covers . . . good 'n' bad Well, you all may know one of the Spectropoppers put together an intriguing CD - UK Sequel NEMCD 378, Just Walk In My Shoes: The Songs Of The Motor City (2000). It contains 29 Brit Motown covers, originally recorded for the Pye group of labels. Within my favorite oeuvre, British Beat, I would like to opine on some, perhaps obscure versions-beware, I often much prefer the "dodgy" British cover to its Stateside source. The biggest failing IMO was a tendency for the beat groups to bang, crash and wallop when a little subtle swinging/rhythm was in order. Louise Cordet, Two Lovers (Decca) (where oh where is her overdue anthology) Tony Jackson & The Vibrations, Bye Bye Baby; You Beat Me To The Punch (Pye) Bern Elliott & The Fenmen, Money (Decca) - UK Hit Carl Wayne & The Vikings, My Girl (Pye / US ABC) Zombies, You Really Got A Hold On Me (Decca) - done in a super medley with Bring It On Home To Me! Who, Heat Wave (Reaction) Fourmost, Baby I Need Your Loving (Parlophone) (much too fast but almost!) Kinks, Dancing In The Street (Pye) Hollies, Mickey's Monkey (Parlophone) Ian & The Zodiacs, Beechwood 45-7879 (Oriole) NOT British (but one part Canadian) The Mamas & The Papas, My Girl (Dunhill) I'm kind of undecided about many of the hundreds of other competent UK covers like Billy J. Kramer's I'll Be Doggone (Parlophone) but anything Steve Winwood or Petula Clark (to my ears, the finest British chanteuse of the 1960s) tackled, or whatever John Schroeder or Tony Hatch produced that originated from Motown seems to agree with me... Regards, Alan V. Karr -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:01:13 -0800 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Zager And Evans/Larry Buchanan tie-in? Dr mark: > I am trying to decide if Zager & Evans might have got the > title of their 1969 hit "In the Year 2525" from Larry > Buchanan's 1967 film "In the Year 2889". The online bios of Z&E state that they wrote the song in either 1967 or 1968, and recorded it IN TEXAS sometime in 1968. I had thought it was recorded in their hometown of Lincoln NE, but perhaps that was an incorrect assumption. At any rate, Denny Zager has a website on which he sells his guitar method, so you should be able to google it and contact him that way. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 19:53:17 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: The Results > (Barbara South &) The Believers > Ovella & The Overtures Davie Gordon: > ... the (Results') Apt single's actually from 1965... they > were possibly managed by Tommy Roe... I've no idea who the > group members were... I think the group which included Joe > South's sister (Barbara) was The Believers... The Believers > were around at the same time as The Results, so I'm inclined > to think they're a different team... Another girl group (Joe > South) worked with, on Columbia, was Ovella & The Overtures > ... I haven't heard of any these so maybe somebody who has > the records can comment. Thanks for the great info, Davie. I dunno how you do it, but I'm glad you do. I do have both of the Results 45s and the one by Ovella & the Overtures, but as yet none by the Believers or Barbara South. Does Does anyone have pictures they can share? Somehow, I would not be too shocked to discover that they were all the same group. In the meantime, I've posted a track to musica. Enjoy: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica Details are: Ovella & the Overtures "Trust Me" (Columbia 4-43687, 1966); written by Tommy Roe; produced by Bill Lowery and Joe South; A Cindy-Faye Production. The other side is just as good, but more stompy, with a Darlene Love-esque vocal. I might post that too if there's any interest. Is Barbara South around, I wonder. Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 19:40:49 -0000 From: Mark Maldwyn Subject: Re: Motown covers . . . good 'n' bad Alan V Karr on Motown covers: > Within my favorite oeuvre, British Beat, I would like to opine > on some, perhaps obscure versions-beware, I often much prefer > the "dodgy" British cover to its Stateside source. The biggest > failing IMO was a tendency for the beat groups to bang, crash > and wallop when a little subtle swinging/rhythm was in order. > Louise Cordet, Two Lovers (Decca) (where oh where is her > overdue anthology) Hello Alan, Louise Cordet - neglected chanteuse. Did she record "Two Lovers" in French, I wonder? And Nancy Holloway's "My Guy" cover in French - "Bye Bye"; not perhaps the best translation but another great singer. Mark Maldwyn -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 13:47:41 EST From: Jason Subject: Looking for a song Hi, I'm looking for the song "Sailing With My Dreamboat" but I don't know who recorded it. If anyone can tell me I can look for the 45. Thanks :-) Jason -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 18:45:10 -0000 From: Ed Salamon Subject: Re: Motown artiste Tom Clay Paul Rusling wrote: > What on earth happened to Tom Clay? Tom Clay, who worked in the LA area after leaving Detroit, died in 1995. He was 66. I met him when I was working in LA (10-Q and KGBS-FM) in the late 70s. Ed Salamon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 13:42:24 EST From: Matt Spero Subject: Where are the Christmas songs? Hi there . . . . I'm a bit disappointed that there are no Christmas cuts on musca now . . . . common people surely there must be some fun stuff to post there. Share a Christmas gift now. :-) Matt Spero -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 20:18:34 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Where are the Christmas songs? Matt Spero: > Hi there . . . . I'm a bit disappointed that there are no > Christmas cuts on musca now . . . . common people surely > there must be some fun stuff to post there. Share a > Christmas gift now. Who are you calling common? I hate Christmas (don't ask why, because I might tell you), yet I love Christmas records. I've started the seasonal ball rolling with a special treat from Maxine Brown and Chuck Jackson, now playing at musica: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica There's room for more (hint, hint). Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 13:36:34 -0800 From: John Berg Subject: Re: workin' it with the Fourmost Authority Davie L. Gordon wrote: > The Fourmost Authority had another single on GNP 403 issued > around 12/68 but credited to The Foremost Authority. The A- > side was a Dick Torst song "Childhood Friends" which had been > recorded earlier by both The Yellow Payges (on UNI, 6/68) and > Teddy & The Pandas (on Tower, 7/68). I'm sure the group were > American - the full writer credits for "Dance, Dance" and > its b-side are Ronald Craig Karp, Lloyd Whelchel and Theron > Holloway. Peter Lerner: > I have the 45 (GNP 403). It's "Woe Is Me", written by Craig > Karp, produced by Dick Parker and Dick Torst. This sounds > American to me, and is not the UK Fourmost. Craig Karp was involved with a Seattle band called Easy Chair who released at least one or two 45s here in the Seattle area in the early '70s. Note that this was not the more psychedelic "Easy Chair" led by Jeff Simmons who had released a one-sided demo LP circa 1968 -- originals of that one now go for upwards of $1000, whereas the Karp band are useful as substitutes for a frisbee. John Berg, Seattle area -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 16:01:13 EST From: Artie Butler Subject: Re: Tom Clay I am sorry to hear that Tom Clay Died. I did an album with him and thought he was terrific to work with. I thought he had a unique sound as well. Artie Butler -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:26:16 -0000 From: Moss Subject: Cathy McCord on CTI I was wondering if anyone owns the Cathy McCord record on CTI. If so, it would be great to hear it. Thank you, Moss -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:31:43 -0000 From: Alan V Karr Subject: Louise Cordet Mark Maldwyn wrote: > Louise Cordet - neglected chanteuse. Did she record "Two > Lovers" in French, I wonder? I can't tell from the French titles, but this site is a good reference: http://members.tripod.com/ye_ye_girls/ http://members.tripod.com/ye_ye_girls/artists/cordet.html -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:36:17 -0000 From: Alan V Karr Subject: Gabriel & the Angels Julio Niño: > "That's Life (That's Tough)", by Gabriel & The Angels (Swan > 4118, 1962). It's included in "Midnight Cryin' Time", an > irresistible compilation full of angst, sexual frustration, > desperation and death. Also available on Ace's Golden Age of American Rock & Roll Volume 2, CDCHD 445. I wonder though....are these the same "My Boyfriend's Back" Angels? Regards, Alan V. Karr -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:59:17 -0000 From: Julio Niño Subject: A very special Christmas with Marisol. Matt Spero urged us to: > Share a Christmas gift now... For Matt and everybody, I would like to share a little song by the mysterious Marisol, "Pequeña Estrella" (little star). It´s not exactly a Christmas song, but I always associate it with this time of the season, and I always play it in Christmas time (don´t blame me, consider that I grew up in a family with very peculiar Christmas habits, for instance every Christmas Eve we usually watch gore movies...). Marisol sings that a little star is guiding her way toward something in pure Three Wise Men fashion. I always find a little disconcerting the sound of the whip slashing in the music, adding a somehow S&M touch to the Christmas ambient, but I suppose that we can consider the whip a Christmas motif, taking into account that it´s an essential item in the relationship between Santa and his reins. Anyway, it's one of my favorites of Marisol's songs, composed by Gujarro & Algueró in 1964. It was included in the OST of "Búsqueme a esa chica" (look for this girl). In the early sixties the barely teen Marisol looked as beautiful and enigmatic as Françoise Hardy, but far more vulnerable. Although in her movies she always played the role of an extroverted cheeky girl she was never happy being an artist and disappeared completely from the scene in the seventies. Nowadays she has a legion of fans; a freaky and unlikely mix of leather bikers, pederasts, camp people, anarchists, simple minded people, twisted minded people and yeyé followers, among other strange species. Merry Christmas to everybody. Julio Niño. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:42:43 -0000 From: Alan V Karr Subject: Re: Motown covers . . . good 'n' bad I mentioned: > Who, Heat Wave (Reaction) > Fourmost, Baby I Need Your Loving (Parlophone) (much too fast > but almost!) > Kinks, Dancing In The Street (Pye) > Hollies, Mickey's Monkey (Parlophone) > Ian & The Zodiacs, Beechwood 45-7879 (Oriole) I failed to note that I found the above to be undistinguished compared to the preceding Beat covers I listed. Also IMO Mamas & Papas' take on My Girl probably could have been an A side but that's just me. Regards, Alan V. Karr -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 00:02:32 +0100 From: Frank J Subject: Flirtations on Musica As Christmas is there to make wishes come true, you'll hear another Xmas gem on musica. The Flirtations' "Christmas Time Is Here Again". As far as I know it was a single only release from 1968 arranged by Johnny Harris. Happy holidays Frank J. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:33:58 -0500 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Kim Fowley S'pop Projects wrote: > "I am trained to make magnificent records ... I just do it!" > An Interview With Kim Fowley > by Kingsley Abbott > http://www.spectropop.com/KimFowley/index.htm Brilliant work, Kingsley! Fowley is one of the great enigmas of the rocknroll era, but your pinning him down -- to the extent that that trickster can BE pinned down -- on some of the more fundamental issues of his working life goes a long way toward deepening my understanding of him. But what's all this about him writing a book about baseball?! Dig, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 23:52:25 +0100 From: Frank J Subject: Re: Tom Clay Artie Butler: > I did an album with Tom Clay and thought he was terrific > to work with. I thought he had a unique sound as well. Now that sounds interesting. When was it? do you have any recollections of the sessions? I love his album for MoWest. Frank J. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 19:05:14 -0500 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: workin' it with the Fourmost Authority Peter Lerner wrote: > I have the 45 (GNP 403). It's "Woe Is Me", written by Craig > Karp, produced by Dick Parker and Dick Torst. This sounds > American to me, and is not the UK Fourmost. "Sounds" bitchin', Peter. Any chance of musica-izing it for us (he asked greedily)? Dig, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:00:43 -0000 From: Mike Subject: Re: workin' it with the Fourmost Authority Davie L. Gordon wrote: > I haven't checked yet but wasn't there a Craig Karp involved > with The Lyrics - a Californian garage band on Era and GNP - > they did a brilliant snotty rant called "So What ?" which was > on one of the very early Pebbles comps. You're thinking of Craig Carll, who sang "So Glad" by the Lyrics on GNP-Crescendo in late '66 -- it's a sparse midtempo blue-eyed soulish ballad. FYI - some enterprising huckster decided to make a "fake" 45 and tout it as a rare northern soul 45 -- by "Toby Bullard" on the Floadvieur label. This is actually an alternate take of the Lyrics "So Glad". Chris Gaylord was the Mick Jagger of the Lyrics, who smoked on harmonica and sneered his way to garage infamy on "So What" / "They Can't Hurt Me" (Era 3153, Nov '65). Chris got kicked out of the group in '66 for being too rebellious. Teddy & The Pandas did "Childhood Friends" on Tower in '68. It came out a bit before the Billboard issue date. Anytime something hits the trades you can usually tack on anywhere from three to six weeks earlier for a release date. It took just about six months for "Sweet Pea" by Tommy Roe and "Dirty Water" by the Standells" to make the trades. MopTopMike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 19:48:05 -0800 (PST) From: Mark W Petty Subject: re: Motown artiste Tom Clay There is one Tom Clay record I'd like to hear. In 1964 he released a 7" record of Beatle interviews called "Remember, We Don't Like Them, We Love Them". Mark in Minneapolis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:06:11 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: re: Lennon remembered / a confession How y'all doin'? Like much of the world, yesterday I reflected on the life and musical legacy of the late John Lennon. I got to know him (a little bit) after going on several stops of the Beatles' UK promotional tour for the "Beatles For Sale" in 1965 ... so when I had a chance to have a piece of musical history, I jumped at it! Shortly after the release of the "Imagine" album, I was approached by a friend of a "friend" of the Lennons, who was short of cash. He asked to borrow a hundred dollars, and was willing to secure the loan with the original painting of clouds that was on the cover of "Imagine". He said it was a gift from John, so I eagerly accepted It on the condition that I return the painting to him when he returned my hundred dollars. Years went by and I enjoyed the painting privately, knowing that I'd have to give it back someday. After John died, I was asked for the painting back. By this time, the painting had increased in value (if it indeed still existed), and would be worth close to $70,000! Although I admit I was tempted to keep the piece, I gave it back to him and he gave me a hundred dollars. It was on the condition, however, that he return it to Yoko. Now that painting is back in its rightful place, the story can be told. If you'd like to see the painting, it's in the upper right hand corner of my Warner Brothers office -- just click on to http://artiewayne.com/photos.html While you're there, I'd be honored if you'd sign my guest book. Regards, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 11:47:10 -0000 From: Laura Pinto Subject: Jeff Barry fansite updated with new pix Hi Spectropoppers, To visit the new Photo Gallery on the Jeff Barry fan site, which includes brand-new pix of the man himself (and a few of moi), click on the link below to get to the homepage: http://lpintop.tripod.com/jeffbarry/index.html You can then click on the prominent link just a little ways down the page to get to the gallery. There are two pages of photos; the link for page two is at the bottom of page one. Enjoy, Laura -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 01:29:43 -0000 From: Regina Litman Subject: Re: Joe South Davie L. Gordon wrote: > Nice to see Joe South get a name check. He is a huge talent, > who was amazingly prolific in the sixties. I did some research > on his credits some months ago, but maybe it's time for > another update. Joe South quickly became a favorite of mine after his big 1969 hit, "Games People Play" (not to be confused with similarly or identically titles later hits by the Spinners and Alan Parsons Project). I wish he had remained in the spotlight longer, but I learned that he wrote a lot of hit songs for others, most of which were also favorites of mine. One thing that Joe South did for me that very few, if any, other pop music makers have done is added useful words to my vocabulary. There are at least three: boondocks - from the Billy Joe Royal hit he wrote, "Down In The Boondocks". introspect - the title of one of his albums. gofer - mentioned in the liner notes of one of his albums. Some of the songs by others that he wrote: "Down In The Boondocks", "I Knew You When", "Hush", "Heart's Desire" - Billy Joe Royal "Hush" - Deep Purple "I Knew You When" - Linda Ronstadt "Birds of a Feather" - Raiders "These Are Not My People" - Johnny Rivers "Pollyanna" - the Classics (later known as the Classics IV) "Rose Garden", "Fool Me" - Lynn Anderson "The Greatest Love" - Dorsey Burnette "Yo-Yo" - the Osmonds (plus Donny did a remake of "I Knew You When") "Untie Me" - the Tams I know he recorded the Brotherhood of Man's hit song "United We Stand" on an album, but I didn't think he wrote this one. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 17:40:01 -0000 From: Brent Cash Subject: Re: Joe South Hi everyone, Since Joe South is in the news here, I thought I'd bring up a zany one by him called "The Purple People Eater Meets The Witch Doctor". It's on NRC (National Recording Corp.) and is exactly what the title sounds like it would be. The writing credits a team of J.P. Richardson-R.Johnson. So, perhaps The Big Bopper had his hand in this one? It's absolutely hilarious, and, fittingly, the edge of the vinyl is severly warped. The flip is written by Joe, "My Fondest Memories" and published by, of course, Lowery Music Co.Inc. Brent Cash -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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